/ORG/

>>16196352
that's a pretty dang good deal. I would get that. I have a bunch of lenses I don't use, where are you in canuckistan? I could probably sell you some cheaply.

>>16196374
>GOAT.jpg
FIFY

>>16196397
Southern Ontario, senpai.
Will trade cigars for lenses. Also weed.

So should I get that option and then get lenses afterwards? The GoatPoaster recommended a cheapo $250 camera but I can probably swing $300 to finally be able to take enough good pictures to participate in this thread with things besides Swifties and walls of text.

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>>16196417
I can do a trade of cigars for lenses. Would be tight. and yeah that's a super solid camera. My cousin had one that he traded for a D3200 and it was sweet. You can do a lot with the 18-55mm lens. I just prefer prime lenses because of the hipster DOF and I like the sharpness. I have a few that you could use.
>taken with an 18-55mm lens

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>>16196417
Pic related. Shitty BlackBerry quality of my Ranger at work today.

Notice bad bumper as I get my winch powder coated.

>>16196397
Got him down to $300. I shouldn't haggle when drunk. Feel like if I responded in the morning, I would've gotten him down to at least $270. Ah well. Guess I own this thing now.

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>>16196374
About to head to bed, but thanks for the shout out OP. Here's some original content for you. One goat in its natural habitat.

>>16196520
let me know when you want to trade.

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>>16196563
I uh- can do that right now.
What's your steam.

>>16196603
No steam, contact info is here tho

http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/5844578472.html

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>>16196454
I fucking see you over there

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Reporting in...

Getting antsy. I want to hit some trails before it starts snowing hardcore here but I have to wait for the deer hunters to clear out of the forest :-\

I want a geo tracker so fucking bad

why are they so fucking hard to find in the midwest

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>>16198032
who else is cold as fuck

>>16198051
>Tfw on my way to Hawaii
Shit will be cozy.

>>16198051
It actually ain't too bad in southern BC right now, just very very wet. Still warm enough to rip around without gloves on. The snow should be hitting the mountain trails any week now if not this week, looking forward to snow wheelies.

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>>16197786
I looked at Trackers, Sidekicks, and Samurais all over Colorado for months. Everything was beat to hell, modified more than I wanted, or just over priced. I really wanted a stock (or very close to stock) one. After about 6 months, one showed up as a trade-in at work. It was perfect (and super cheap: under $2000!). Thus the legend of the Goat began.

>>16198051
Temp went up about 20° today (a little snow is still on ground from Thursday), but it's back down below freezing (and more snow) tonight.

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>>16198051
>Texas
>balmy 68 degrees
I can't justright.png hard enough.

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in with humby

>>16196520
Does anyone have a better idea for a bumper respray than a regular powdercoat then paint?

Vinyl wrap job? Something that won't mind if i ram into a few saplings or even a full tree.

>>16198300
Replace with a tubular bumper

>>16198317
Less stable than mounts. Plus harder to mount other things like snow plow.

What are the tubular bumpers coated with? Vinyl wraps?
I mean, I don't min repainting these things every 2 years.

Are early 2000s XTerras reliable? I just need something to last a year or two before I have a house and garage to store something nicer. Is spending $2500-3500 on an Xterra a good idea?

>>16198587
Same platform as the Frontier (navara). 2000 is old gen so that's good. I personally wouldn't even get a frontier newer than 08. Drove one for a week before getting my Ranger and compared to the F-150, Ram, and Frontier, the frontier did not fair well.

Old class Nissan is very reliable and since its on the 1st gen Frontier platform, you can't go wrong. Downsides are aftermarket parts and safety.

What's the body rust looking like? 4x4 working?

Are cuck truck post welcome?

I'm a cuck and I've got a big truck

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>>16198587
A few years have issues with coolant getting into the transmission (bad design). Very expensive repair. I'd check what years are affected before purchasing. Outside of that, the usual complaint is they're underpowered for their weight.

>>16198470
Usually tubular bumpers are powder coated.
But since you have such a boner for vinyl wraps, just put that on it.

I got a 2000 XJ sport. I want to get some LED lights to mount on the front of my car before we get blizzards. recommendations on some decent led lights? not a light bar

>>16198688
cucks are not welcome whatsoever.

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is there a lightweight suv with as much aftermarket as an 80s samurai?
thinking about getting one,specifically this one

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>>16198317
>tube bumpers

>>16199086
as far as other Japanese SUVs I doubt it. Jeeps might have it beat when it comes to aftermarket, they are two door but not "light weight" though.

>>16198051
It rained a bit today in SD which means that everyone loses their shit at the mysterious sky water and every driver on the road spergs out

>>16199691
>not "light weight" though
i dont think thats fair. certainly they dont compare in terms of weight to the samurai but really nothing else does.
for a truck wranglers (especially earlier ones) are definitely light.

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>>16199691
I'm mostly agreed with this.

>>16199805
But this too.

Tracker/Sidekick has a lot less aftermarket, but they have IFS (faster/smoother for light trails, can't do the big bouldering though). Also a few more creature comforts, generally.

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>>16199974
>those jeans

>>16199974
Are you trying to say IFS is a positive thing? I'll give you that it is slightly more comfortable on road but come on man. It's undeniably, less capable, less strong and less reliable. 3 incredibly important things for /off roading/.

Also I have to agree with >>16200043
its time to get some clothes that fit my man that is really bad.

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>>16200106
Well, not exactly... IFS is smoother (my wife complains if it's too bumpy), but that's about it. I don't do anything much harder than mining roads, so a beefy solid axle is more than I need.

>>16200043
>>16200106
You sound like my wife. I'm old and can't stand skinny/tight jeans. I can't wait for wideleg/baggy jeans to come back in vogue.

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>>16200168
>Well, not exactly... IFS is smoother (my wife complains if it's too bumpy), but that's about it. I don't do anything much harder than mining roads, so a beefy solid axle is more than I need.
cool ill give you that then. if youre only doing mining/forest roads than theres no need.

as for the jeans, i always hear guys say this like the only two options are disgusting, beyond-baggy jnco style jeans or skin tight skinny jeans.

just get a normal fitting pair my man. it will be a whole lot more flattering.
something like pic related is a decent middle ground.

you literally look like you are wearing bell-bottom jeans from the 70s, its really bad dude.

>>16199974
>Also a few more creature comforts, generally.
Just more parts to hunt down. I have enough trouble getting parts for this damned Comanche and half of it is literally an XJ.

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>tfw want to lift the pickup
>tfw want to put 32x11.5's on it
>tfw I'll just make unnecessary work for myself and always run the risk of getting caught and having to put it back to OEM, aswell as having to do it every two years anyways before inspection

I wish our laws were a bit more lenient

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>>16200324
>run the risk of getting caught and having to put it back to OEM
wtf kind of cucked country do you live in
move to the land of the free faggot

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tfw no snow it's just cold

>>16200504
cool truck mang

>>16198812
Standard round kc lights then

>>16198812
>LED
>XJ
F A C T O R Y
O
G
S

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>>16200215
I was thinking A/C mostly. I don't have it in the Goat, but don't need it up in the Rockies. Folks elsewhere may feel otherwise.

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>>16200843
>arm socks

anon you're hurting me now.

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I wish I wasn't so fucking poor.
https://goldcountry.craigslist.org/cto/5873758115.html


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bQFHty42nXw

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>>16198812
LED lights would be awful for blizzards, you need something that shoots down onto the road, not something that throws light errywhere.

are stock jeep xj's good offroaders? A bit worried about the ground clearance of the live axles.

>>16200972
Ok come on though. If it went everywhere that would include down the road.

>>16201398
After you go down the long list of little shit you need to fix first like the headlight circuit. Otherwise they're fine just throw skidplates on and some 30's, lift if you need to.

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>>16201398
I've personally never hit an axle

I did high center and tear off my transfer case skid plate once though. trim the fenders and disconnect the sway bars for full flex and they are decently capable stock

>>16201411
>>16201412

Those tires look pretty large compared to the stock ones, thus raising the ground clearance of the front axles significantly.
I've been told it would require a 2 inch lift and something in the realm of 265/75r16 tires to have the ground clearance of a 4runner/prado, patrol or pajero. Something I really really don't want to do.
Also see a lot of guys converting the rear leaf springs to coils. Looks costly, but how does it improve performance when compared to the stock rear suspension?
Only mod I want to do is skid plates, maybe put an lsd in the rear and run on good all-terrain stock sized tires.

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>>16201447
Those are 30s, and aside from trimmed fenders it's 100% stock. Mine even has stock front and rear skid plates, and a stock transfer case skid until I broke it off.

>>16201461

thats patrol-tier flexing there. Very impressive.

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planning on checking this car out this weekend. It's a 1996 XJ, 4.0l 190hp, 4 speed auto. Really hoping its the full time transfer case.
Owner says runs great and the engine runs smooth. States that he fixed all the electrical gremlins years ago.
I'm new to jeeps and is there anything I should look for, be wary of?

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Hey /ORG/
Any of ya'll know about the hardbody?

Just picked up this '86 beauty for less than a grand, and aside from some small stuff, it seems to be in pretty good condition.
Any advice on how to make it a half-decent off-road machine, if it isn't already? I know the engine's a bit weak in these, are there any good swaps for this car?

Either way, it doesn't look like I'll have to spend more than $1500 to have it in tip-top shape, after everything is said and done.

>>16200462
we have legal lifted trucks in this country, I'm not sure about all the rules about it though and why it's illegal for this guy to do it

>>16200962
Why? Arm socks are that weird. Compared to his jeans, anyway (which are consistently made fun of).

>>16200043
Those look like boot cut. I see nothing wrong here, assuming he has good cowboy boots

>>16198694
Do you live in Silverton or Telluride or something? Photo dates seem like you're out there all the time.

>>16201572
Heard they're pretty good

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>>16201732
Denver. Been twice to Ouray/Silverton for wheeling and whatnot. It's become a yearly thing, we'll go again next summer for wildflower season. I mostly wheel around St. Mary's Glacier, and out near Nederland, since it's only 1-2 hours from me. Ouray is an overnight or more.

Last year we were there the week before a big FJ Cruiser meet. Saw some pretty badass modded FJs. I imagine they do Black Bear Pass and shit like that. Too much for the Goat... We're just in it for the views.

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>>16201818
Denver meet when

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>>16200043
>>16200210
>>16201651
I never realized my fashion sense would be so interesting. Those jeans are sadly no more, and my new ones are less comfortable.

>>16201692
Correct... when I bought them. Boots (square toe, not cowboy) died before the jeans did, but a pair of jeans that's worn in just right is a wonderful thing.

That said, I leave "designer jeans" up to the wifey, pic related. (A little fanservice for ya!)

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>>16201831
Sometime after the San Diego meet

>>16201902
I got a pair of rock and roll jeans and a pair of lariat dress denim I wear with my lucchese boots. It is a damn good look with the lucchese belt and a good matching fitted button down.

>>16201902
>>16201945
>>>/fa/

>>16201971
trucks and cowboy boots go together better than a fat kid and fudge.

>>16201981
Or OP's mom and dicks.

>>16200504
So very tempting to turn mine into a Black Mesa truck, but I fear I'd be labeled a huge autist haha

>>16198185

Looks fun breh. How much does one of those cost?

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>>16201692
>there is nothing wrong with bootcut jeans

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>>16201651
>ywn have a qt gf with arm socks

>>16201461
Is that a Neosignal hoodie?

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bump

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>>16204038
>4MB JPEG bump

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>>16204074
WHOLE LOT OF PIXELS FRIEND.

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Hello from the desert.

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>>16204106
Hello from the mountains.

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>>16204238
hello from the last mass shooting

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>>16204371

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hello

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>>16204371

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hello from my front yard

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>>16205329

>>16205347
no bully pls

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>>16205359

>>16205366
idk what that last bit says...
i am a bit disappointed this one doesnt have nigger written tiny in the corner

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>>16205383

Anyone feeling helpful tonight? The Aisin manual hub on my 88 Toyota is locked up. Anything I can do besides spray the fuck out of it with PB blaster?

>>16205423
that is much better thank you.

>>16205427
>spray the fuck out of it with PB blaster
that is my normal go to for most things.

how long has it been locked for? a lot of the time things like those need to be exercised in order to function properly

>>16205451
At least since I bought it in September, probably years before that. I'm considering just buying a new pair, I thought they were alot more expensive than they are

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>>16205467
I did manual hubs on the Goat. Cheap and easy as hell to do.

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>>16205546
I need a lunchbox in my Jeep.

>>16205557
been thinking about going this route with my 80 as well. i hear good things about the aussie.
with the 80 if you do the cdl switch mod it is almost selectable too

>>16205546
Got the son of a bitch. Smacked it with a hammer alot

>>16205546
is this the miatas of the offroad? thinking about a hilux or a GQ patrol

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>>16205605
Probably, or maybe a Sammie

>>16205595
I was thinking lunchbox for the front and something selectable in the rear. My rear just started making some crazy noises though so I'll probably be taking it apart this weekend.

>>16205605
>is this the miatas of the offroad-
yes.
yes it is.

>>16205616
be careful with a lunchbox in the front that can get seriously scary around turns.
if you are going to lock both axles you should definitely switch that. lunchbox in the rear and selectable in the front.
or just run selectable on both, that is ideal, more expensive though of course.

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>>16205631
I thought it wouldn't engage when rwd is selected? Or is that only with center axle disconnect?

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>>16201818
Maybe it was just coincidence that I looked at your pictures and they were dated right before I saw them. I've heard the FJ Summit is kind of oversized now. I was there this summer for another event that seemed just about the right size.

>>16205616
as someone who has only had base model utility/farm trucks... there is something i don't understand.

Why does every "offroader" need to take the obligatory "i just disconnected my sway bar" shot like this picture? The tracker in the OP can most likely go just as far off road reliably, without the nasty tendency to flip over on pavement

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Hello from Oregon

>>16205674
whoops. i was thinking in terms of my 80 which is full time 4wd.
im honestly not sure how it would affect a vehicle that can engage 2wd. im sure someone else will chime in

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>>16205677
To show off flex. It's the natural parking position for a Jeep.

>>16205677
FLEX
L
E
X

>>16205677
>the tracker can go as far as someone with sick flex
you know how i know youve never been off a forest road

>>16205714
I always assumed it was called articulation.

Then again solid axles off road also seem odd to me. Its the standard for power handling and simplicity, but the ability for the "pumpkin" to take impacts constantly, and be the lowest part of the car just seems less than ideal.

>>16205546
How expensive are Samurais? Good aftermarket?

>>16205737
Ive pulled a number of jeeps out of the mud with a datsun d21 base rwd truck.

I go camping in a rwd hatch back. To date I have never been stuck anywhere that required assistance from anyone else, though i have pulled a blazer with a trailer up a muddy hill with it.

Granted I am not rock crawling, but i also don't try and go through/over things i know i cannot. Going around and picking a better route always work better than just trying to power over/ through it.

>>16200764
HID foglight recommendations pls

>>16205749
pretty affordable desu
aftermarket is decent too

>>16205756
im sure you have (not sarcastic.) a lot of people do completely retarded shit that is either out of their skill level, out of their rigs capability or both.

i guess were just talking about two different things here though. when you said the tracker could go as far as the jeep i was assuming you meant through the same terrain. the jeep will of course get further if there isnt a way around all of the obstacles, if there is though then of course theyll get the same distance.
not really sure what your point is here.

>>16205746
if youre smashing into your diff "constantly" you dont know what the fuck you are doing.
solid axles provide much better maneuverability over all obstacles this is not even debatable.

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>>16205746
>I always assumed it was called articulation.

>>16205788
mostly my lack of understanding of the culture.

Same goes for "why do stand fags lower their car till the frame drags"

or "why do Subaru owners always put mudflaps on their car, even though it never even sees dirt"

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>>16205749
In CO at least, Sammies start at about $1500 if they run and have a decent body/frame. Can go up to almost $10000 if tricked out. Most on CL are asking $4000-7000 with some mods, probably accepting offers at 80% of asking. Lots of mods, but not like Jeep.

Trackers/Sidekicks start at about the same, but I haven't seen many fully modded out ones. It's rare to see them at more than $3000-$4000. They can't do full articulation (IFS vs solid axle) and so you're fairly restricted to medium and lower difficulty trails, forest roads, etc. No bouldering for these guys (without swapping to solid front, which some guys do).

These guys are my heroes. http://www.suzukiconversion.com/suzuki_sale.htm

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>>16205756
>i pulled a blazer and a trailer up a muddy hill in a rwd shitbox

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>>16205746
Flex and articulation are the same thing. Solid axles are overwhelmingly the choice for offroading because they are very strong, most of the diff can handle large rock hits on everything but the diff cover

>>16205809
>mostly my lack of understanding of the culture.
A lot of it is about doing challenging things for fun. You could take a challenging route to your campsite and have fun on the way, or you could take the easiest way and get there with no drama.

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>>16205826
they could not get traction because they were stupid and tried to drive through the only low lying wet area they could find, coating their tires and wheels in slippery wet clay. I went around the hole because I am not a jackass and dont need to prove what my car can or cannot do as the case may be. they also improperly loaded their trailer and had way too much weight on the tongue adding to their issues. We were in the same camping party.

>>16205830
that is a lot more substantial than the h190 that was in my datsun d21.

>>16205746
>solid axles off road also seem odd to me.
wtf

think of it like this you retarded faggot

solid axles:
>driving up trail
>come to a part where a giant rock takes up half of the trail
>place one front tire on the rock, the other on the ground
>drive over it and continue on your merry way

ifs:
>driving up trail
>come to a part where a giant rock takes up half of the trail
>allow eyes to begin welling up with tears
>turn around
>kys

>>16205859
im not questioning the part about them being retarded enough to get stuck.
i am questioning you towing a truck attached to a trailer up a muddy hill in a rwd shitbox

please my man.

>>16205863
>>turn around
>>kys
kek'd

>>16205872
This is /o/...so 10% of it actually happened. It's up to you to figure out which part is actually real.

>>16205889
>10%
thats actually pretty generous given that fucking story

>>16205872
its not a shit box. not being a jack ass off road greatly aids on in not getting stuck and being able to help others. Ive never owned anything with locking diffs or LSD's either.

>>16205863
by that logic, then a swing axle would be even better as its diff is held up around or above the bottom of the frame rails. A lot of trophy trucks used swing axles up front.

Also why not just go around big rock?

>>16205905
trophy trucks are made for high speeds on flat lands you faggot. not for driving up trails that may or may not have obstacles in the way.

>also why not just go around big rock?
i mean what the fuck? because half the time there isnt a way around? im sorry you stick to gravel roads in your state forest but you cant always just bypass everything. sometimes there are unavoidable obstacles.

jesus christ you are dense drop trip this is embarrassing

>>16205905
>its not a shit box
Irrelevant.
It's still a rwd car that you claimed pulled up a truck + a trailer on a muddy hill. That didn't happen man, why lie on the car section of a japanese cartoon board? >>16205925 is right you are embarrassing.

>>16205925
they also have 3 feet of god damn travel.

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>>16205935
The truth of what happened is not for you to pass judgement on when you were not there. just because you don't believe it does not mean it did not happen. i wish i had a digital camera at the time for some sort of verification, but i did not even have a cell phone then.

>>16205943
that was sort of my point. I see a lot of rock crawler builds or trail trucks using crazy front independent set ups or people that go way outside of their way to ditch the solid fronts for some reason.

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>>16205998
>still defending an impossible made-up story to support a retarded and illogical argument
fucking pathetic

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>>16205677
>>16205746
>>16205756
>>16205809
>>16205859
>>16205905
>>16205998
>/ORG/ gets its first dedicated shitposter

Had to happen eventually

>>16205998
1. Drop trip.
2. Kys.

You're worse than alphonse.

>>16206049
we had a really good run going for like 4 days there...

I don't like jeeps

>>16206049
Did you forget the swiftposter?

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>>16206081
nah that guys cool man

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>>16206062
me either friend, but i do see their merits

>>16205905
>its not a shit box
>D21
Come on man be honest with yourself

>>16206111
one of the very few cars where it is genuinely difficult to find one that costs more than $1000

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>>16206111
>nissan
not even a toyota

>>16206081
I meant dedicated shitposting trip, but I didnt word my post right because I'm fucking retarded and shit. Tayfags pretty alright, despite his autistic maximum strength taytay boner.

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>>16204038
Neat

Just got a fuel pump on this, I have its twin for a parts bike (fp new though) can't wait to drop it off in the creek, waters low in the Ohio river basin right now.

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1982 k10 guy again providing an update.
Think I'm switching off the LSx route and going with a 6.2 diesel. I know it won't ever make the power the LS will but there's a rebuilt one for sale about an hour away from where I'm getting the truck. It has a turbo on it, but its a shitty ebay one that I was gonna replace with a stock turbo from a 6.5 diesel get a set of stans headers then run a 4 inch straight pipe.
Should wake that weak diesel up by a lot, I've seen numbers of 200hp and 400torque which combined with the nv4500 and 5.13 gears should have more than enough power to carry me around 70+ on the highways while netting roughly 20 per gallon on 38" tires. Easily better than anything a gas v8 could get me.
Think I've decided on a gun metal/charcoal grey paint over a black since black is incredibly over used on these trucks.
Gonna get a set of black wheels though and paint the frame/underbody/axles with a black epoxy. Should really make the grey pop in comparison
Pic is an example of what it should look like

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>>16206253
Dirt bike>>>ATV

>>16206275
Hey CC kinda doubting if you remember me but its K5Rebel, I'm the one that's been talking about the 82 k10 so much lol. Finally gonna somewhat live up to my old trip

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>>16206275
Sometimes. I had an old 2smoke Yamaha that I trail rode and road tripped on sometimes and loved to death but riding with a backpack got old after a bit. We creek ride a lot and quads are really what you want for that terrain. I live in a lowlands area and while there are some bikes around here, most are used for competition while atvs are the recreation goto.

Pnr

>>16201981
Love my bootcut black levis and my boots. Hands down comfiest pair of jeans and boots i've ever had

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>>16206339
>riding with a backpack got old after a bit
Yeah riding with a backpack sucks, luckily these days there are luggage racks for nearly every bike.

>>16206299
I do vaguely remember you. Getting back into the /org/ life?

>>16206339
man that old willys looks beat

>>16206367
Ya been missing it like fucking crazy especially since I ended up selling the wrangler I had last year.
I'd get another wrangler but I want more cargo room for camping.
I think I left watchat before I got the wrangler. So you probably don't remember that.
It was a 2001 TJ with a 2" lift and 31" Cooper ST Max never got it stuck although I never went in any crazy obstacles with it

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>>16206368
Yeah, it is. Working on that though. Little bits at a time.

>>16206275
ATV's are for people that can't ride a motorcycle.
Anyone that can ride a motorcycle knows how shit ATVs are.

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>>16206381
Nice man I've been thinking about trading in my Subaru and Jeep in for a newer Wrangler but the wife isn't on board

And man I haven't been to watchat in ages.

>>16206392
Wow, we actually agree on something

>>16206408
Fuck financing anything. Never doing that again. I traded the wrangler in on a cruze eco because I was driving roughly 600 miles a week at the time between work and my cheating whore ex fiance.
Now I'm stuck with the cruze for 5 years still like a noose around my neck

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>>16206431
Yeah I hate financing too, but I'm working toward buying a house [more working toward getting a mortgage] so it's a semi-necessary evil for now. Glad you got rid of the cheating whore before paperwork bound you.

>>16206451
Ya my biggest regret with her is how much money I sunk into that relationship for her, and she has the nerve to call me a fucking spoiled little rich boy, like fuck I worked my ass for my money and paid one of her loans, several of her broke ass families bills, and bought their fucking groceries every week. Hope she rots in fucking hell, but anyways getting away from that topic before I get worked up over it again.

I originally financed the jeep when I was only driving like 15 minutes from my house for work. Got it for a reasonable 7-8k I can't quite remember from the dealer for 4 years 200 a month. Fast forward a year I'm not working about a 60 mile round trip from work 5 days a week not to mention ex whore is the exact opposite direction about about 20-30 miles further from my house. So had to hurry up and find something, best option was this cruze for 6 years at 255 a month. If I could go back in time I would've been smart stuck with my beater ranger while saving up to buy something outright and never financed anything in the first place.

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>>16206486
It's not SO bad depending on your interest rates. Payments always suck but as long as you don't pay too much in interest you aren't losing much on it. At least the Cruze is newish and gets decent mileage.

>>16206531
It just sucks, I wanna get these bills off my back. Now that I'm single its been much easier and I typically have a lot more money but between the ring payment I still have, my student loans, and the car its a huge pain in the ass

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>>16206548
>ring payment

>>16207041
Regretting every second of it, luckily for me its not humongous and I only owe about 2k on it now. Roughly 130 a month.
Thankfully I had a center diamond to put in that saved me a good chunk.
Overall still fucking sucks.

>>16207049
>p-p-pics of ex to make it worth?

>>16207057
Probably a sea cow. I don't feel sorry for people that dig themselves into financial holes and have trouble getting out.
>t. asshole accountant that deals with sob stories of lying faggots that get audited

>>16207049
Shit man, I genuinely feel bad for you. Can you sell the thing?

Also, what really helped me to get out of debt was paying minimums on all my debt besides the highest interest one, then once you pay that off you can use the extra on the next debt, and so on.

Either way, keep your head up dude, you're free now. You learned some lessons, probably won't make those mistakes ever again.

>>16200462

Cant have a hilux in the "land of the free"

>>16200462

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jik109uz1mA

>not for american roads!

rofl

>>16207063
So far i tried a pawnshop but they only offered me $90 for it because I'm not selling the center diamond with it and apparently they don't do anything with the small diamonds in the band. I chuckled and walked out. Gonna try and take it to a few more places before I try selling it privately.
I've heard of a technique like that called the debt snowball or something like that, probably will give it a try soon. I can get the ring out of my hair by spring/summer, close to paying off my gander credit card just 60 left on that. Biggest ones are the car and student loans roughly $12k each still. Could use my tax return on one of those to take a massive chunk off

>>16207069
This shit pisses me off.

I'm allowed to go buy a shitheap 90's pickup, jack it up to unsafe levels, cut the cat converter, and drive it to work every day.
God forbid I buy a 2005 Defender, or import a hilux. Oh, but wait, cars over 25 years old are OK, because... reasons. It has nothing to do with safety or emissions.

It angers me to know my tax dollars are paying for a slew of agencies to track down vehicles like this, so that numbskull can spew shit like "we kept an unsafe vehicle off american roads". It's all for the benefit of auto companies, making sure that you can only buy what they put out on the dealership floor.

>>16207085
>I've heard of a technique like that called the debt snowball or something like that, probably will give it a try soon.
The sooner the better, because compound interest is working against you in this situation.
Don't use your tax return on those loans if you still have a balance on credit cards or something else, because the high interest of the ring/credit cards will basically undo the big payment on your low interest loans.

If you can sell the the ring for a decent amount, do it as soon as you can, because those debts are taking away money from you, and the ring isn't getting more valuable.

>>16201412
Is that USFS green? Kickass!

>>16206353
this. I have some Ariat dress jeans and some Lucchese goatskin boots and it is the definition of /comfy/

>>16205830
Depends on the type of off roading you do. If a solid axle is so superior why does every dune buggy have an independent suspension setup?

>>16205905
>Why not go around big rock?

I had my local trail shut down and turned into a fucking hiking trail because of fucking eco freaks. Now to get to a decent trail Its an hour drive minimum. After 8 years of pure insanity these people are VERY FUCKING POWERFUL!

The future of our hobby is questionable legally speaking. Going around that rock and """"""""""doing damage"""""""""" gives them more ammo to outlaw us and close trails. As much as I want to go off and explore the wilderness we have to stay on the trails otherwise the trail won't be there much longer.

>>16207117
Very true. I could actually pay the ring off now and probably should but the only reason I have this money is because of a workers comp settlement and I desperately miss having a truck. So not doing the smartest nothing at the moment financially but it's been so long since I treated myself to something I really wanted that I can't resist.
>>16207865
I have a pair of Durango rebels and a pair of wolverines with a composite toe both are pretty good. Also have a pair of JB Dillon's I wanna get rid of

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>>16196417
>D3200
>>16196454
I'd def rec a used d3200 and a 35mm prime, you can find used d3200's in the lower 200 dollar range and a used nikkor 35mm for around 130

all pics incoming are from a d3200 with 35mm prime

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With the depriciation on jeep cherokees how much do they usually sell for clean?

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>>16208046
I see immaculate xj's go for 3500-6000 in my area

>>16208054
Damn sable you still post too? Haven't seen you since the watchat days lol

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admittedly I kind of hoped to find some mud today. no dice.

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What do you people carry in your winter kits in case of offroad vehicle death? Metal can for instant water, 5 packages of salty crackers for electrolytes and cars, 4 tins of cod liver for quick and compressed fats, some weed for cabin fever, a qt to marry.
What else?
Also, what the fuck happened with the solid vs. independent axle discussion? I thought this was a nice place )^:

>>16208046
D E J A V U
Oh hey, Crow!
>>16208054
Why such heavy depreciation on a Jeep when they're built like bricks and reliable as hell? Yota 4runner?

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>>16208650

I don't have enough of these reaction images

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tay called me Crow,
I crow anon now.

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>>16208664
If you stick around, I'll slowly trickle my mid-tier swifties into the market so you can use them instead.

Here's a rare one for posting the same crow in each 3 OVG, though <3

[spoiler]PLS NO DOWNLOAD, SHARE, RETWEET (tweet tweet tweet)[/spoiler]

>>16208693
>not calling yourself crownon

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>>16208730

>>16208650
/O/
>Nice place
Only in our wildest dreams. Everything becomes a shitposting argument eventually. Just have to hope it stays mostly tame

>>16208738
>Not having an actual trip that says "the crow"
It's like you don't even tripcode exolorer

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>>16208929
>wanting a tripcode

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>>16208919
I MEANT /OVG/
y'AHHHHHH.

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>>16208919
I'm sorry for yelling, anon. I do appreciate the subtle tay reference though.

Since I'm here wanting information on emergency kits, (see >>16208650), why the fuck do people say "start your cars to do this" or "start your cars to keep warm"?
If you're back tracking, how do you even get stuck in a rut (other than if you're silly enough to rip an axel or drive or something) that allows you to keep your vehicle running but not let you drive it out?
I can't imagine not being able to call a friend to come winch you out or simply pulling yourself out. Whenever anyone I've known has been stranded, it's always because a fuel injector crumbled or they ran out of gas or another thing happens that prevents them from starting up their car.

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my friend's grandfather just died, I had baught his old hunting bronco off him around 2015, late 1980s something,
should I cruise by his house?

>>16208951
Must've been so subtle that I didn't even realize it m8. Never been a tay fan so I have no idea how I made a reference lol

Where can I go in central Florida to go dirt drifting/"rallying"? I went all the way out to 5A yesterday and was met with a cop, went to the north side and was blessed with a 2" thick chain and steel gate...

>Inb4 the compound
Going there in winter break

>>16208650
>Why such heavy depreciation on a Jeep when they're built like bricks and reliable as hell? Yota 4runner?

It depends a lot on the area. Here in Co Springs, a 97 with 200k miles will sell for $4k easily, and if you want one for less than $3k you'll probably be looking at 80's models with at least 200k on them. If you want one with low miles, in good condition, you're looking at at 6k minimum.

I wanted one, but I ended up buying a 4x4 hardbody for $900, so I can dump 2k into the thing and still come out ahead.

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>>16208592
Yeah I still post frequently, usually just post pics

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>>16200324

at37fag here, my parents are building a cabin and moving to trysil so i guess we better get to know eachother at some point in time so we can go for bromosexual roadtrips in the woods and stuff

this is the property they are building on pic related

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>>16209358
>bromosexual
there's no gay shit going on here right anon?

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Kek rain makes my oil leak look much worse than it is.

>>16209496
Uhh. Is this not an actual issue?

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Should I put smaller tires on?

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>>16209716

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>>16208664

>>16209716
>>16209725
Fuck no. Never again ask something so stupid.

Anyways on a different topic I might be making a move on a 5.3 vortec tomorrow for $250. It runs and only has 165k on it. Be the perfect candidate to tear down freshen it up and put it into the k10 project. All I would need to do next is find the nv4500 I want to pair it with, then the 38" tires to go with the 12 inch lift I have already. That would be all the running gear taken care of. Easily be able to recoup the price of the engine by selling the 2 350s I have and the th350 trans that's fresh rebuilt.

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>>16209716
>smaller tires

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how based is the new zr2 going to be though for real

>that ingenious suspension
>front AND rear selectable lockers
>31" duratracs come standard
>skid plates
>p sweet departure and approach angles
>available diesel

man i hope when ford brings the ranger back they come up with something to compete with this

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>>16209934
>>16209945
are you insulting my tires?

>>16209964
I really would like one but it's just not worth the price when I can build this k10 for a fraction of the cost and be better overall off road by a long shot.
>>16209968
Not at all m8 just saying don't downsize on tires. If anything trim the fenders or lift and go bigger

>>16209964
You sure it's got a front locker?

>>16209992
m8 is a daily driver, the only reason I had those fatties on there is because when you deflate them you don't notice the cab supports are shit.

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>>16210003

I'm buying a snow-hooning machine soon. But I also want something to beat down the trails when the weather warms back up. The cars I'm thinking about are
CR-V
Pilot
Outback
Forester
Rav-4
S-10 Blazer
Cherokee (I6)
Grand Cherokee (V8)
CJ-6
Juke

All of which are AWD or 4WD.
Thoughts?

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>>16209992
>I really would like one but it's just not worth the price when I can build this k10 for a fraction of the cost and be better overall off road by a long shot.
yeah i hear you.
i mean i most likely wouldnt be buying a new one either but it willb e a nice option 5 years post production.

>>16210000
thats what most of the articles are saying.

also checked

>>16210029

>cr-v, pilot, outback, forester, rav-4, juke

fucking gay as FUCK senpai KYS

>s-10 blazer, jeeps

only acceptable things you have on that list

>>16210029
kind of a weird list desu.
there are a lot of better options (TOYOTA) in similar price ranges that are much better that you have left off for some reason.

out of that list you posted though the only one you could do actual trails (that arent just dirt roads/forest roads) are the 3 jeeps you listed.

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/org/
What is your favorite anime?
Making stickers

>>16207069
>that smug satisfaction for destroying a perfectly fine vehicle
people like this need to be gassed

>>16210045
Its what's for sale. All the CJ4/5s aren't enclosed, don't have heat, "I know what I got" prices, or "ran when parked" condition. Everything else is meh for snow-hooning.
I won't be doing rock climbing in them, but mostly camping and /out/ stuff. It just needs to handle ATV/dirtbike trails. I previously used a borrowed HMMWV (military surplus).

>>16210003
Ahh I see lol well it's up to you m8
>>16210032
Ya I'd love to pick up a Duramax diesel one in the future when I'm done paying on this Cruze. It may be the one vehicle I'd consider financing again for

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>>16210072
Would buy a Taylor Swift sticker and gift it to baes if you make like 10 of these decals.
Been trying to find one not overtly gay for the past few months.

No bump for OVG faggotry

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>>16210072
>tfw anime hipster

Suzuki samurai is really cheap in my area, 3k or less for what seems like good running ones. They look pretty cool but why should I not get a cj Jeep?

There are a few hard tops

>>16210188
Depends on what you wanna do really?
The jeep will easily have more power but is typically much more expensive than a samurai.

>>16210222
Pretty much just driving, road trips, to and from work, sometimes go far from my house up the mountains and then down into west Virginia on some trails. Right now if I know I'm going to drive on dirt I borrow my brother's xj Jeep.

Like I say I think they look kinda cool and it seems like the have a following, beyond that I don't know much else

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>>16210072
cant go wrong with some spice and wolf. someone was going to make me a sticker based on pic related, but it never happened.

>>16210236
Well if you're not gonna do any hsrdcore trails and rock crawling a samurai would be more than up to the challenge I'd say. Normally I'd recommend the jeep but for basic stuff the samurai is good

>>16210325
Exactly how hard core does a trail need to be to disqualify the samurai?

>>16209618
Naw it's just my oil cooler lines. Leaks about a quart every 2-3 weeks. Good for around town/short trips for now.

I'm working with a local pneumatic shop to get some custom lines made up so they won't leak again. Wouldn't be driving it but the weatherman said snow not rain.

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>>16210072
GinTama
Shokugeki no Soma
Hunter X Hunter
Kill la Kill

>>16210335
Well samurais are usually limited by power the most so I'd say anything that would demand power such as deep mud pits or rock crawling. Samurais can be solid axle swapped which can take away some of their defiencies as far as crawling goes but s wrangler beats it daily in that department

>>16210236
if you are planning on doing "road trips" you are going to fucking kill yourself in a samurai. probably the worst on road manners of all time. its insanely bumpy - will give you a fucking massacred back, loud, shaky, lots of rattles, your tailbone will hate you etc.

a cj isnt great either but much better than the saumari.

and dont get me wrong i absolutely love the samurai - when off road. but if you plan on doing longer trips with it you are going to have a terrible time.

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>mfw off roading is exclusively a white mans hobby

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>>16210531
>mfw blacks look confused if you even mention 'overlanding' around them

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>>16210537
>mfw finally a hobby blacks havent tried to claim as their own yet

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>>16210565
>SMACKS LIPS

>>16210565
*smacks lips*
WHAT U THINK U SAYIN

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AYO /POL/ UP

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>>16210581
what the fuck is going on in this pic

>>16210599
/pol/ won the lottery.

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>>16210574
>>16210576
>mfw mods policing the truth as usual

>>16210608

underated post

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>/pol/ ruining another tread by being /pol/

welp, latter /org/ it was fun.

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>>16210789
>he doesn't bring supermalevitality and water filters with him when he goes offroading

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>>16210188
If your choice is CJ-7 vs Samarai, it completely depends on how far you are going to travel to do your adventuring. The benefit about the CJ-7 is that it's customisable for crawling and works OK (12-15MPG highway) for highway speeds. Samarai does the same thing but you wouldn't want to travel 2+ hours on the highway on it without modifications (especially under today's conditions). Treat it like a CJ-5 that is capable of offroading.

That being said, the samarai has a CURB weight of under a tonne which means you can tow it with any semi-modern SUV to your landing site and then take it for fun. And crawling it around the city is always fun.

Have you considered: Jeep TJ

>>16210506
Watchu talking aboot, Whilliz?
CJ a gr9 suspension (for the time). Especially on downtown small bumps and cracks and potholes.

>>16210531
>>16210537
A F R I C A N
S A F A R I

>>16210806
Oh this was you, too. Neat-o.
See >>16194377

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>>16210839
how does someone even have this many taylor pics
how could this possibly happen

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>>16209716
i went from 245s to 285s

never

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>>16210839
>CJ-7 a great
come to think of it, it could just be that I use my Ranger as a comparison or it could be the offroad tyres that have a larger point of impact and absorption.
Or it could be the fact that when you climb into a Wrangler, you don't expect bumps so when they're smoother, you think they're "good suspension".
Or it could be like the Defenders where you fall in love with their signature bumps.

I have a biased point of view on Jeep suspensions so that might be clouding my judgement. I've never ridden in a stock Jeep CJ-7 (and I don't think anyone has in a long time). Hmm.

>>16210098
CJ4s are antiques and should be treated as such. I've never seen one in real life (probably has something to do with living in Canada, though). CJ-5s aren't THAT bad and installing a heating system / roof is not hard. Remember: the lego of cars.

Also, fucking sweet. I wish we Canadians had access to those military surplus modified HMMWVs or even LAVs to fuck around with offroad. That'd be sweet.

>>16209358
I would but Norweegia is far and some places eben colder than Canada.

I LOST MY NORWEGIAN SUPERMODEL.

>>16206158
Also, since I'm shitposting partially, I might as well respond to this. I don't have a taytayboner. I just have a really nostalgic feeling when I see her and all my girlfriends idolise her as much as I do.
>you're not bae to me unless we sing along to at least one taytay song in muh trucc
>roadtrips always start with a taytay album
>blast her music on the interstate in heavy traffic
>play it whenever i'm sad
>enjoy her face

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>>16205998

Rest assured that for every one faggot IFS swapping his truck to go fast in the dunes, there are like 50 people solid axle swapping their trucks/suvs. Ask anyone who actually off roads, its a unanimous agreement that solid axles are the superior choice. I don't know where the fuck you live, or if you've ever even owned a 4x4, but rest assured no one who takes their jeep/truck down a trail would ever pay actual money to have ifs over a sfa.

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>>16210861
>dat winch
I love you.

>went from 245s to 285s
>doesn't like it
What are you!? some sort of cuc-
>I see no rocks
Well, otay. I guess the wreck on the mileage and potential bump systems could fuck with you. You look like you have autumn where you are so the wider tyres help you better in the snow.
>wild country radials
Huh. Well I guess that explains it further.

Could you elaborate on your choice, though? I'm surprised that with spacers (or is that a torsion/leveller?), you don't get wheel rub when you turn the tyres after moving up a whole 40mm.

Also foglight choice as I'm still looking to get some HID foglights before the deep winter starts. - Anyone?

>>16209716
Where'd the Black Mesa logo go?
Like
>>16209725
>>16200504

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>>16211074
was an older picture.

>>16211109
pic onionrelated

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>>16210861
>>16210951
I use a comealong for a winch, just keep the chain there for easy access to pull trees n shit.

I love the tires, theyre big, cheap, gnarly looking, and do well off road. 245/75r16s to 285/75r16s
I could have bought a nice set, but they would have been literally twice as expensive as the Nankang Mudstars. These were $600 shipped.

I dont have a lift, or torsion bar cranked or anything. The stock tires were just ridiculously small, pic related. All I had to do to fit them was trim a little plastic and zip tie back a parking brake cable.

Dont make me nerd out on driving lights. I love my Hella's.

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>>16210860
For the same reason I have 3 gigs of alex jones.

>>16211153
... you're in love with Alex Jones?

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>>16211195
yes.

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>>16210933
If solid axles are so good why does the Humvee, a vehicle praised as the Jesus of off road capability have an independent suspension?

As far as flex, if thewheelsarticulate independently why would you need as much flex? Look at these crazy photos of trucks on the side of the hills. Which is more stable, a Jeep approaching the limits of its center of gravity or the one actually leaning into the hill? An independent suspensionrequires a completely different way of thinking. Who needs big old D60 axles if you are flexing at eachwheel? Like the HUMVEE you can tuck your differentials up high in the central tunnel.

Look, this subject could be shitposted to death with valid arguments from both sides, but at the end of the day all of us still get lumped in with the fucking lifted bro trucks that never see anything but pavement because "muh weels'll get durty" regardless of the suspension preference. Instead, can we focus our hate on pic related and not on each other? If not, I'd settle for the Sierra club like >>16207889 pointed out.

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>>16211307

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>>16211122
Pls nerd out. I'm going to my mechanic tomorrow and need a good set below the $300 he "normally gives to his clients". After looking at HIDs on Amazon and whatever, they're looking like a good price right now. I also have done a bit of electrical engineering so can keep up with nerd lingo.


And damn. That's NO lift!? There has to be some sort of small mix or the (2008??) Sierra must've looked quite weird with those small tyres.
To be fair, all modern trucks with their large, wave box design look weird as fucking with those stock tyres. They took the standard Ranger tyres and literally put them on truccs 33% the size of the ranger body. I'm glad you got yourself some Radials.

Also, why DID you get radials? Good price or are they actually good mudders?

>>16211263
This is actually a very good question and I will float some possible answers:
1. combat vehicle so bullets/rockets taking out one tyre will allow it to spin at its own rate allowing maximum spin to get away before it actually breaks down (if locked, then the other wheel would be fucked and completely not drivable).
2. A war vehicle and not built for much climbing as they can legitimately "go around big rock". They also need to be somewhat optimised for speed.
3. Contracts.
And the other points you pointed out in the second paragraph.

But mostly this:
>instead pls
>can we focus our hate on [this other thing]
>can we not focus our hate on each other, ugu
YES WE CAN! <33

An Extralarge comfwiftie coming right up!

>>16211153
At least your waifu has raifus.

>drove a new cherokee today
>was really nice
I could totally see myself driving a trailhawk. The interior was excellent, and that 2.4 was punchy for a little four banger.

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>>16211621
>>16211263
So I looked it up for a minute since I was curious on this answer. And I would say my 1st point is more or so valid. Humvees' axels are just giant fucking pieces of steel supporting more steel with rubber around it. Meant to be as rugged as hell, hit as many rocks as possible, and all be really quick whilst doing it.

It's also an incredibly simple design without any of the complexities needed for a solid axle system supported by a small, long (And therefore less durable) metal pipe.

Occam's razor, j'suppose.

>>16211632
i emailed you thrice senpai

>>16211632
Did you see the video where they take a $1000 craigslist Cherokee offroad and it performs better than the new cherokee?

>>16211654
didn't get it. shoot me an email

http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/5844578472.html

>>16211655
I 100% believe that. I am just saying as a vehicle, it's pretty pleasant.

>>16211666
>666
I'd imagine that as a new car in 2016, the Cherokee has quite the nice ride and interior, compared to a vehicle from 20 years ago.
This is /ORG/ however, so to be outdone by a 20 year old car at 1/32nd the price is kind of embarrassing.

If it's gonna be a DD, though, I'd understand.

>>16211684
I get it.

Full independent suspension is lame for offroading and shit.

>>16209372

Ofcourse not, we just enjoy giving eachother brojobs.

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>>16211655
>>16211684
I believe it. In fact, I'd be surprised if the new one outpreformed the old XJs. the cherokee is now an SUV and no one buys it with the intention of offroading a fuckin $50 000 mom car. they realise that so they have the rubicon or unlimited whatever instead. Also, the modern Chebby Colorados are outperformed by the last generation S10s (colorado, dakota?, canyon prior to 2010).
My 2wd Colorado was what I learned to offroad on and 2wd meant I couldn't get stuck or it'd be a call to my friends or CAA.

I'm not surprised, shocked, or even angre. Just a little

>>16211666
otay. I sent it through my work email

>>16211711
I responded with my email address. hmu BB ;)

>>16211691
Hey, I'm just speaking in off-road terms.
If you wanna get it, it's not a bad SUV and can double as a light off road camping rig.

>>16211754
I won't get one, I can't justify 30k for a car, at that price I would just build an LS wagoneer with air cont.

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Hello from vancouver island :)

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>>16211786

>>16208046
3k-7k for a kitted one. but my area has alot of jeeps so probably around there

>>16211711
I don't believe at all that an s10 is better than any Colorado/canyon off road even the zr2 version of the s10 blazer.

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>>16211786
Hey there, little Kota!

>>16212611
I was saying the last generation S10 IS the Colorado / Canyon because, well, they pretty much are. I have no idea why they decided to change it to Canyon / Colorado after 2004 or whatever. They're still S10s.

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>>16211786
>>16211792
>dat frame flex

>>16212967
Ahh ok I see.

Anyways just got home from picking up a 5.3 vortec and while I was there turns out they also had a clean solid rust free k10 short bed truck for sale. Easily better than the k10 long bed I was gonna buy. He said he's gonna get back to me on it later today with all the info on it. Chances are I'll be buying it real soon

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>>16211786
>>16211792
pick that shit up bro.

>>16197327
>no wonder that hasn't sold yet. Try $3500 as a starting point.

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>>16213645
He probably doesn't want it gone or is just waiting for some guy to be like "muh first kkkar. wha should me as a hoodrat git got!? ooga boogie"

>>16214353
kit kat confirmed for married and need to sell acura for a "family car"

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happy thanksgiving friends!

>>16213383
wasn't mine but I actually did after the picture lol

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>>16213015
dont even worry about it LOL c channel frame.
I actually just finished welding up some really small cracks that where starting at the torsion bar cross member ... Im really hard on this truck, but Ive owned it for two years now.

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This is still the guy with the dakota.
I got these wheels powder coated semigloss black, you guys think I should keep white wall in or out?

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>>16215772
heres a picture when I had white walls out originally. I thought it looked cool, but when I put new tires on I went black out.

>>16215772
You mean the white lettering right? Lettering is good to leave out IMO but full actual white wall on a truck looks disgusting.
So lettering ues white wall no

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Well here's my baby

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>>16215794
Yea I ment lettering, my bad. actual white walls would look horrid! =O Thanks for the input, havent put the tires back on yet and not sure how Ill do it :) Here is a picture of it when I bought it, for kicks.

>>16215809
Thats so cool!

>>16215831
Thank yo. Got her when I was 14. Over hauled the engine in High school and now is my daily driver for college.

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>>16215862
Thats friggin awesome. Wish I had a solid axle in the front :P Im a little jealous.

>>16215870
It helps, I won't lie about that lol. What engine are you running?