[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ]

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1 down 4 up niggaz

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im drunk
lets shitpost the night away guys

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The new memes have arrived!

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someone say post wr450 killers?

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>>16193604
OLD FUCKING MEMES HAVE ARRIVED!

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>>16193612
no

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>tfw its never coming back
for all i know the guy may have crashed it already. it was the first bike he ever owned. i literally tried to talk him out of buying it when he told me it will be his first bike

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>>16193612
>worse in every way to a WR

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>>16193636
;_;

>>16193571
anyone else think these bikes look so fucking ugly?

>>16193663
literally no one else.

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>>16193636

>>16193663
Second.
Ugly low turd of a big

>>16193636
No one cares, Schluchtenscheißer.

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>>16193636
>duplicate image reply

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>>16193663
when i had one i tried to make it look better.

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>>16193682
EXTREMELY rude

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>>16193682

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>>16193663
i think they look fine desu

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So what´s your favorite brand anon?

>>16193302
Ayy AT, you still hanging around?

Next sem is probably gonna be still between july-august, you planning to come?

Are you living your best days, /dbt/?

>>16193735
I own two Zukis. Slight preference for them, but I want a Yammie FJ1200. Badly.

>>16193571
enjoy getting your fork guards packed with mud

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>>16193735
>ABS
eww

>>16193743
My best days were wasted in a shit hole named Clovis, NM. While I remain bitter about that, I'm slowly turning my life around in my early 30s.

>>16193738
I've not being riding much lately because of neck pain. Unfortunately, I'm planning to buy a house about that time next year so I'll likely be broke as shit and will have to settle for a Scottish holiday.

>>16193735
Honda. Reliable and dull, like me.

>>16193764
>honda
>reliable
Only if aircooled

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>>16193735
KTM

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>>16193768
i can not confirm this
my XL is not that reliable

>tfw it breaks down on top of some slovenian mountain you dont even know the name of and you have to roll all the way down to find shelter to fix it

>>16193751
What´s so bad about ABS don´t you wanna brake anon-kun?

>>16193761
Ding dong dang it, was looking forward to having you with us this year.

Do you still have my email? I can give you an invite for the Sem discord channel just in case you wanna stay in contact.

>>16193773
What broke?

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>>16193743
no
>>16193735
I like kawasaki for their color
green is great
>>16193773
>shit bike adventures
ayy AKG we are now shit bike brothers.
mine works now. I removed two fairing tho. time for shit bike adventures without TÜV, yolo.

>>16193768
I haven't trusted Yamaha after my 125 came out of the factory with the rear wheel bolt retaining clips not done up. The result was a bolt working loose and 'fortunately' causing the wheel to lock while I was walking it into a parking space instead of a few minutes earlier.

>>16193735
SUZUKI

>unbreakable GSXR 1000 K1-K3 aka the ghostrider machine
>goldy K5 machine, best P/W ratio of any of the liters
>First to reach 300 with Hayabusa
>DR/ RMZ dirtmachines and sumo
>V-Strom
>SV650 aka best beginner bike

I wouldn't mind if they bring out something to compete with the H2R just to show off like with the hayaboozle

>>16193796
Weird. Thats a techs fault. Not yamahas.
Ive ridden yamaha my whole life and never had an issue

>>16193797
>falling for ALL the memes
Wew

>>16193784
I'm disappointed too. There's a slim chance that my patent application will go through and I'll not have to worry about a mortgage, in which case I'll definitely come.

On the Discord channel, that would be excellent (though I've never used Discord before).

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>>16193810
>memes

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>>16193805
Isn't the sprocket bolted to the wheel at the factory? It was one of these clips.

>>16193821
Yes. And its a persons job to install it.
As well as your job to inspect a brand new bike before riding.
Who wouldnt do that?

>>16193814
>yamaha literally most reliable

>>16193811
You can either donwload the app or open it in your browser when you feel like it.
Right now only WR anon is active oer there.

I'd invite you to the whatsapp chat, but we'd bother you daily, and I don't know if you're comfortable giving your number out.

shoot me an email, I'll send you the link.

[email protected]

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>>16193786
i have to admit, the pre owner abused it a lot, im sure.
when i got it i had to:

>have the camshaft reworked
>new rockers
>renew most seals
>put in a new camchain
and a few other small things.

also, the XL600 is really, really prone to overheat. that kills the seals etc, i had to install an aftermarket oilcooler. and now its leaking from the valvecover again, for literally no reason at all. i still love it, its an amazing bike, and well lemme put it like that: it WILL run most of the time, but it happens a lot that thinks break that worsen your riding experience. it will still run though.

damn, desu even if i never did anything on it im sure it would still run. but it was terrible at some points, listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APf6Oo0iXmE that was the fucked chamshaft, pic related

on the trip: one of the valve clearance screws got lose and the valve was kept open all the time. we found shelter and i fixed it, i had all the tools with me. not really the fault of the bike, maybe i didnt tighten it enough.

>>16193829
>And its a persons job to install it.
A person who was hired and trained by?
>As well as your job to inspect a brand new bike before riding.
I'm not a Yamaha technician, unless they include a technical manual I have no way of knowing that what looks like a shim actually stops the bolts working loose.

>>16193833
Meme email sent.

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>>16193789
kicks ass man! show some pics

>>16193775
eh

today on my ride home, I was accelerating out of a very slow turn.
While accelerating, for what was like a 4th of a second, my engine revved like a motherfucker as if I'd grabbed the clutch and then it stopped.

It didn't feel like I lost power or anything and I didn't accelerate any

I'm at a loss as to what it was
do any of you guys have any idea?

>>16193833
>>16193844
Also, thanks for understanding with whatsapp, there's a few groups I'm already part of and it's infuriating because there's occasionally critical information but mostly people treating it like facebook (posting some vapid image and a million more notifications as everyone replies with a thumbs up).

>>16193837
Holy fuck youre retarded.
Please dont own machines without knowing the most basic things

>>16193854
Sounds like a slippery clutch. Who chanced the oil last and were they possibly retarded enough to put car oil in there?

reminder that honda a shit

>>16193861
This is the first time it's ever happened.
I put the oil in about 2000 miles ago. It was oil to spec according to my owner's manual

I should mention I hadn't recently (relatively) shifted when it happened

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>>16193848
I will soon
took it back home yesterday at 22 uhr and didn't ride then, and wasted today with helping a friend move stones and playing over watch with TW anon, will ride tomorrow tho if it not rain.

>>16193857
I guess I'll stick with Hondas, I've owned 3 and never encountered a component installed incorrectly. If I buy any more Yamahas I'd probably have to strip it down to the individual engine components, since it's my responsibility to check every bolt is installed and torqued correctly and some lazy fuck at Yamaha might have failed to put a bearing in the engine.

>>16193869
How old's the bike? It really does sound like the clutch slipping (or possibly the wheel but you'd almost certainly notice). I wouldn't worry too much unless it happens again.

>>16193872
>stick with honda
This is how i know ive spotted retards when im riding.
>cant look at the bike to see obvious issue
Yup honda rider

>>16193867
wr450*

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>>16193882
No need to shift the blame because your manufacturer of choice literally can't do the job you were paying them to do.

>>16193876
It's from 2008, so 8 years.
I'm not gonna worry too much about it unless, like you said, it happens again.

>>16193856
>>16193844
Didn't get the mememail yet.

try again?

>>16193897
>Engine: 5 stars
holy kek

>>16193735

Ducati

I've owned 2 hondas, 2 yamahas, and 1 kawasaki in the past and none of them feels or rides like my current bike. I'm looking to upgrade next spring if I can find a reasonably priced 1199R.

is CFmoto a shit chinese brand, or are they worth looking into? cause the local bike store is selling a 400nk about $1000 cheaper than a cbr300r and im thinking of being a stingy jew.

>>16193887
No I said honda you ret

>>16193911
Tried it again to [email protected] and it just gets rejected.

>>16193935
Ah fuck it.

[email protected]

my email is on the maps anyway.

>>16193915
I love
>Replaced both wheels, mudguard (manufacturing fault), fork gaiter clips, fixed fuel tank
>Now almost up to my British standard of quality

>it does not take much

>>16193943
Sent.

>>16193797
Suzuki's dynasty actually extends far deeper than most people will ever know. I am a mechanic at a local motorcycle dealership so valve inspections are a frequent part of my job. Those gixxer engines are ALWAYS in fucking spec. You wouldn't believe the piles of shit that have been brought to me with 30k+ miles and the valve clearances are dead center. Yamaha is good too but not as good as Suzuki. Kawasaki is next and Honda is actually the worst (not even trying to play into the meme here, their valves are super soft).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVoXGGXRl5k

none of you nobike memeposters have the balls

>>16193966
>has no idea what he's talking about

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>>16193612
idk wtf is wrong with dr-z owners

>>16193982
you'll cowards don't even cone, how you gonna talk shit to diarrhea

>>16193856
how many people are in the whatsapp?
its only /dbt/ people right? for the SEM?

>>16193997
found the nobike

why isn't moto gp as popular in the US compared to the shitholes in Europe?

>>16193861
>car oil destroys motorcycle clutches
Le meming continues

>>16194055
Americans don't ride motorcycles, they ride Harleys


t. American

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>>16194055
Motoamerica needs to work out before y'all need to worry about motoGP not being popular.

>>16194075
Harley's existence is preventing GP to become mainstream in America?

>>16194089
Yes

Because gays

t. gay

>>16194079
hopefully it does, I mean we still have MX/Enduro too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXWVYtsf43Y

When connecting something to the battery, is it red first or black?

Is riding while really high on coke safe? I feel like I'm going to go really fast and do wheelies.

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unf

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>>16194106
you need to look up a motogymkhana rider called hunter tabibito if you want to see some insane shit.

>>16194058
It doesn't destroy or even damage them but the lubricants can make them slip.

>>16194121
black for negative

>>16194124
>Parallel twin
>180 degree firing order

Come on, Honda, you can do better than that.

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>>16194131

>>16194132
>somone TOLD me it can and MIGHT make the clutch slip
>enjoy spending $12 per qt of oil

>>16194079
ABS saved him

>>16194055
>europe
>concentrate on development, skill, interesting stuff
>murica
>that kid that gets nothing done but strives for attention
>all about image
>LOOK AT MUH GUNS, MUH HARLEY AND MUH FREEDOM
>40 yo outdated tech in motorcycles but it'S LOUD AND FREE

>>16194156
>>enjoy spending $12 per qt of oil
What are you talking about? Motorcycle oil costs the same as car oil where I live.

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>>16194079
Is backing it in still a thing?

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>>16194166
in classes that don't have engine braking controls such as moto2 and most supersport classes yes.

>>16193917
What bike do you have now?

>>16194021
the only thing wrong with us is hanging out with faggy sv riders

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>>16194178

>>16194121
black first, if red first you can short against the frame.

Fug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loxaWo8du04

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>>16194293
>He saves pussy instead of getting some.

>>16194293
;________;

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>>16193612
I've been away a few weeks, where did this meme of posting bikes inferior to the WR450 and calling them WR450 killers come from?

>>16194228
Is it a Monster?

I´m not very good with ducatis.

>>16194317
DRZ fags are mad that they wasted money on a shit bike. So they are trying to tarnish the WR450

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>>16194293
You motherfucker

>>16194293
RIP Eff-Zee

;_;7

>>16194293
>not naming the cat Empty

>>16194317
We had a thread a while back full of DRZ guys and a couple WR owners. I may have coined "WR450 killer"...

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>>16194334

848

>>16194335
calm down faggot, no amount of /dbt/ posts can harm your dirt bike.

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>>16193612
no but I can gladly post some SM killas.

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>>16194293
shit

>>16194418
what is the make and model of this motorcycle??

>>16194440
Shitty McSlowbike

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>>16194440
Suzuki DR-Z400S(m killer)

>>16194440
Suzuki WR450KILLER

Is buying a bike off ebay a bad idea? It's the only way to save a large amount of money around my area, since craigslist only has shit bikes here. Also, im thinking of a suzuki TU250x as my first bike (for commuting and riding around town, also price is good). Is it a shit bike? I know it isn't fast and pwerful, but is it reliable?

>>16194460
I literally said the same thing
>>16194447

Best place in the US to ride?

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>>16194474
supermoto track

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>>16193612
Sure why not?
You actually have to post a bike that out performs a wr450 though

>>16194467
yeah dude giving the nigga the money first without you seeing it with your own eyes is a sound idea

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>>16194479
here it is

>>16194491
>has plate
>literally twice as much terrain
i dont see how you can argue against it

>>16194503
My WR is plated.
And more powerful with better suspension for far less money.
Dont see how you could argue against it

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>>16194491
That's not a god machine

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>>16194507
I could actually make it farther on my DRZ because a longer range tank and not having to change the oil every week or breaking down half way there

>>16194523
Thats all BS and you know it

hey /dbt/.
Lets talk about insurance
1) what country do you live in?
2) how many bikes do you have?
3) what are they?
4) how much do in pay each month for your insurance?

>>16194507
>short gears, mpg, mait intervals
hah yah wonder whey they dont come with a plate hmmm really makes u think

>>16194293
;_;7

>>16194530
1 - Suzuki
2 - DR-Z
3 - 400
4 - SM

>>16194467
What is your area? There may be deals in driving range and time and fuel are cheap in Trumpmerica.

>>16194538
>short gears
Wut? Do you know what WR stands for?
>mpg
I get 50mpg no problem riding hard
>maint int
Takes 5 minutes to change oil
Worth it for a FAR FAR better bike.
>plate
I walked into the dmv and said i wanted a plate. Now im street legal.
Really makes me think youre a dumbass

>>16194561
>Do you know what WR stands for?
Worst Ride?

>>16194568
HHHHHUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRT

>>16194529
but it's not. The DRZ goes longer on an oil change. Has better MPG, even after all the mods. Under identical conditions, the race bike is going to break down first.
All facts.

>>16194538
>>short gears, mpg, mait intervals
>hah yah wonder whey they dont come with a plate hmmm really makes u think

None of those things affect plating and you know this. Emissions cert and lighting affect plating, that is all, and ways around the obstacles exist and are easy.

Fuel is nearly free so mileage is irrelevant. You can always carry more fuel. You can change your oil on the road if want. Also not difficult. Dump the waste on your camp fire and burn the plastic bottle too.

>>16194568
more like würst bike ;)

What kind of cameras do you guys get to mount to your helmet?
I was looking at a gopro hero 3 black used, I wanted to end up doing motovlogs, or at the worst have a dashcam type thing.

>>16194576
dr has double the oil capacity and goes twice as far on a single oil change.
Do the math genius.

>>16194578
i didnt mean to say that short gears etc is what the DOT uses to deny a plate. but the factory built it without the road in mind and these factors suck on the road

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>>16194538
the WR actually has wider gear ratios than a DR-Z :(

>>16194590
I didn't know we were talking about DRs....

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>>16194599
>buying dirt bikes to ride on the road
you can't make this shit up

>hold on guys, lets pull over i gotta change my oil!

>>16193735
Triumph

>>16194615
>it'll only take 5 minutes!

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>DR-Z has bad suspension
Where did this meme come from? The DR-Z has some really nice fully adjustable cartridge forks and fully adjustable linkage shock. It rides really well.
>b- but the forks aren't upside down!
The difference is unnoticeable to miniscule.

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>>16194615
>he thinks an oil change every 2000km is unreasonable on a bike with less than a litre of oil
my road bike gets about 5000km out of 3.8 litres of oil

Can you people actually go out and ride a 450 so we don't have to see this posting anymore?

>>16194641
All trolling aside, you're hurting your WR if you change oil that infrequently.

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>>16194627
The drz is a near 20 year old bush pig designed to be a bush pig.
everything about it is old fashioned and has been improved immensely over the years, i am surprised suzuki still bothers making the drz400.
They even replaced it in civilised countries, pic related.

>>16194661
>rmx450z in usa dealers within 2 weeks

>>16194661
>i am surprised suzuki still bothers making the drz400.
but if you can sell an outdated shitheap for just as much as a modern bike why wouldn't you? They sell like hot cakes.

It's a lot like harley's business model- spend no money on innovation and reap the profits from people buying the "tried and true design."

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>>16194671
Id still rather a wr450, rmx is also an out dated shitter, just look at it in comparison.

>>16194671
wut? source?

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>>16194680
suzuki rep at LB show. i sat on it too, the guy in the red hat in the middle is sitting on it

>>16194677
>yawnaha copying based suzuki design again
looks eerily similar to the rmx hmm wonder why...

>>16194690
Yamaha was yellow before susucky

>>16194687
also this
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/RMX450Z/2017/RMX450Z.aspx

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>>16194293
you piece of shit. why did you have to post this

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>>16194690
>Suzuki trying to make quality bikes
Other way around

>>16194677
Who would even buy a wr450 when the KTM450 exists

>>16194715
True but the ktm is twice the price on the used market

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>>16194715
true to be honest, that and the 500 exc dominate everything as far as performance is concerned

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>>16194715
>tfw I will never ride the trails of sardinia on a Husqvarna FE350
;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O1x8i8chcM

>>16194715
Money.

>>16194709
how does that even happen? It seems like if it were to pressure crack it would be just below the bottom clamp, not between the clamps.

>>16194726
I don't know what boogeyland you live in but in my area WR450s get more memebike tax than DR-Z and KTMs have none at all. The KTMs end up being the cheapest option most of the time.

>>16194726
Because it dominates anything else in its class. Its the superior bike.

>>16194734
Stop being a brokeboi

>>16194731
>Husky 350
>not ktm 450

Stop being a cuck.

>>16194709
you know that those are showa forks aka not made by suzuki

>>16194750
not a dualsport

>>16194731
u poor kit kat?

i bought a tire from this dude the other day. his place was insane. literally a barn full of used tires, mainly diablos, rossos, and slicks.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/mpo/5860851048.html

>>16194762
>>16194762
I am doing much better than I used to, but I cannot afford a 10k bike that I am pretty sure isn't street legal.

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>>16194750
The husqvarna comes with linkage suspension which I personally prefer.

>>16194757
All 2017 Husqvarna FE models and KTM EXC models (previously XCF-W) will be coming in street legal trim to the US! Thanks based KTM for actually providing this option to the US market unlike every japanese manufacturer.

>>16194757
>ktm450
>dualsport

K I L L Y O U R S E L F F A M I L Y

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>>16194782
really? fuck yeah. what are they doing differently?

>>16194773
Buy a 2007 450/525 EXC for $3k and enjoy your street legal enduro.

>>16194782
wait people are going to be riding them as road bikes?

>>16193692
I like it

>>16194799
>>16194794
>>16194782
KTMs have come without off-road only titles for a few years now from what I understand

>>16194799
ikr.. almost as dumb as a wr450 on road

Looking to get my first bike but dont know what style to get.

>sportbikes are for douchebags
>cruisers are for old men
>retro bikes are for hipsters

>>16194773
saying you'll never be able to afford that is a pretty bold bet. not like it would cost a million dollars

>>16194797
nah, I will get a buell or honda 919 as my neext baiku.

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>dbt discussing enduro bikes
is kinda cute i guess

>>16194807
>(You)

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>>16194804
oh.. i think you know...

>>16194813
well there's a difference between not being able to (at the moment) and never being able too. Right now, it is not my priority. If I could have a 4 bike garage, an FE350 would be the bike I get after a Buell, and a big twin Harley street glide.

>>16194807
Go Sit On Your Dildo

>>16194831
I guarantee you, if you buy anything from bad dragon for him he will.

>>16194830
I was referring to
>tfw I will never ride the trails of sardinia

>>16194820
forgive them they don't know any better

>>16194811
You should get a DRZ400SM. I believe Suzuki makes them

>>16194395
Looks good Mah man

>>16194807
Nah up until a few years ago they weren't technically street legal but the manufacturer certificate of origin provided with the bike didn't say OFF ROAD ONLY (unlike japanese bikes) all over it so you could easily take it to the dmv and get a street title for it. In 2007 they changed their naming system in the US so the EXCs were the ones offered in street legal trim and the XC/XC-W were only available as off-road-only bikes.

>>16194799
Some probably will but otherwise it's really nice to have street legality for your enduros so you can take roads between riding spots and such legally.

>>16194794
Look like they're adding mirrors and street-compliant lighting and probably cucking the fuel maps to meet federal safety and emissions standards.

>>16194845
oh well yeah, that could happen but that's a pretty big investment though. One day, but not currently. I would rather ride a shit bike across 'nam. much more cost effective at this point in my life.

>>16194799
I ride my wr450 and ktm530 ON road

>>16194847
>not the S
fuck off

>>16194853
>big investment

>>16194864
well big expenditure on an experience.

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>>16194859
Cool, I ride my ktm300 off road because it is a dirt bike

>>16194852
That is what I was talking about

>>16194829
Know what?

>>16194870
>not living your life to get the most enjoyment out of it

>>16194811
You should only buy for how YOU intend to ride. /dbt/ is shitpost central and that is all. Motorcyclists are mostly elitist dicks so you may as well NOT care who you annoy. That's why riding is now divided into so many niche groups.

There is no perfect motorcycle. I suggest going for common and reliable, because that means easy parts access, good aftermarket support, and less walking. GS 500s are solid and good first bikes.

No matter what you buy, someone with more money will have something quicker, faster and prettier. If you are not actually dealing with that person that's also fucking irrelevant.

>>16194839
>lizard fleshlights
fucking kek

>>16194886
I get a ton of enjoyment out of my life, that's why I am spending money on my truck and saving for a motorcycle

Serious question:
I have an '05 SV650S that's in good mechanical condition but needs new fairings due to road rash. Low 20's for the mileage.
What can I realistically expect to sell it for? What about if I got new color matched fairings?
What could I trade it for? I know no one wants an SV.

>>16194888
>There is no perfect motorcycle
>Husky 701 exists

>>16194908
>he doesn't know how shit the husky701 is

>>16194914
>He doesn't know literally anything
2017 is getting the new Duke motor pham

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>>16194928
yes and we've already established this, the moment you get your hands on one the biggest reliability recall problem in KTMs history will occur to them.

>>16194928
Its still going to be shit

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>>16194876
oh. Well it hasn't been as big of a variety before though. For the past few years it has just been the 500EXC and 350EXC which were street legal. Now they've opened that up to their whole 4-stroke lineup so we get a 250, 350, 450, and 500 all in street legal EXC form.

>>16194934
>He actually does know what he's talking about
Fuck you're right

>>16194938
>Jelly

>>16194939
Neat

>>16194904
>What can I realistically expect to sell it for?

Comparable price to similar bikes in your location, where ever that is. Other locations don't affect your prices. Riding season is ending in many areas so there's that, if you are in one of those areas.

Study Craigslist in your and surrounding areas.

>>16194948
>Jelly

wew lad. If I'm ever jealous of you baird, I'll shoot myself.

>>16194908
>glorified $12,000 dirt bike

>>16194969
Literally every review if the bike is 11/10. Yes, literally.

Why the fuck aren't there want dual sports for sale for cheap
I'm not going to buy a fucking 8 year old drz for msrp

Fuck someone sell me their dual sport

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>>16194939
does that mean you guys can register the 2 strokes as well or still no love?
>>16194969
You mean overly expensive ktm690?

>>16194948
>>16194939
oh also they're all available from KTM with a PDS shock or from Husqvarna with linkage suspension

>>16194979
>buying a duspo new

>>16194979
Because dual sports are expensive to service and maintain, generally you can sell the parts a dual sport is made out of for up to a few thousand more than its value if you sold the bike whole.

>live near a ton of wide open, straight desert/farm roads with nothing on them, no curves, just straight gridded roads that go for miles

I'm not the only one who thinks these are fucking boring, right?

So, is there a bike style or model you would say handles best in inclement weather on normal roads?

>>16194908
perfect after you replace that exhaust
Maybe it's just the ktm/husky sound, but stock pipe sounds so muffled to me

>>16194984
I want to buy used
But there's fucking nothing out there
A bunch of 450supermotos that people want 6-8k for
A bunch of drzs people want 4500-6k for
The occationally 250 for usually 4k

Why can't I find anything half decent
At those prices I may as well but new

>>16194981
no the 2 strokes still aren't street legal probably because they're not compliant with emissions standards. We can still road register them if we jump through the right hoops but they aren't really meant to be on the roads here.

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>>16194988
of course not, that's why all those rednecks who live in your flyover states are out doing wheelies all the time and what not.

Corners is life.

>>16194160
You sound upset

>>16194995
learn 2 negosh

>>16194991
The stock exhaust is hot as fuck and melts off the rear turn signal too
The Wings exhaust is good tier tho

>>16194988
Get a busa

>>16194995
sounds about right.
Why are you trying to buy expensive bikes if you can't afford them?
see >>16194985

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>>16195006
busa is for corners.

>>16194995
You can probably buy a DR650 or XR650L for cheaper because they don't have memebike tax.

>>16194988
get a dirt bike and ride in the actual desert

>>16195002
I'm decent at it usually got my truck for fucking dirt cheap with basically a brand new motor
Got my friend their car for 1500 less than it should have sold for

Dual sports people just don't want to negotiate

>>16194975
My bet is, like the 690, it needs suspension work and a seat to be really good

>>16194989
Adventure IMO.
Although anything with good lights and windscreen should fit the bill. Traction control, ABS abs ride by wire are all big pluses as well
Adventure/dual sport is good for commuting because of the high riding position giving good visibility

>>16195010
Can the Busa handle like a liter bike or is mostly for high speed?

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>>16194988
Don't know that feel m8, all the roads near me are twisty.
you have to actively seek straight roads.

>>16194995
I watched craigslist for a year before making a deal. There are 30 shit deals for every good one.
Learn to play the game, or be willing to drive somewhere with a better buyers market.

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>>16195024
>like a liter bike

no it's bigger, heavier and longer. It won't handle "like a liter bike" but it's still a sportsbike.

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>>16195024
apparently, and I have never ridden them, but they handle decently well. They are pretty decent for sport touring duty, one of my cousins neighbors has one and he has put thousands and thousands of miles on his stock one that has better tires and a power commander.

>The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) conducted a study on the effectiveness of ABS for motorcycles and came to the conclusion that motorcycles above 250cc without ABS are 37 percent more likely to be involved in fatal crashes and a study of the Swedish Road Administration came to the conclusion that 48 percent of all severe and fatal motorcycle accidents above 125cc could be avoided due to motorcycle ABS[14]

>calling ABS a """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""'meme""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>16195011
I want something light otherwise I would pick up a 650l in a heartbeat

There's a street legal 250 2 smoke for sale a mile or two from my house and I think k I know thw owner

Only thing is not sure if I want to deal with maitnence on a 2 stroke commuting daily and or if the sound will cause issues

>>16195015
The suspension is upgraded from the 690 iirc, and I'm getting the sumo version so there's that
Seat concepts definitely happening

>>16195042
will you be 4 bikes and 0 cars?

>>16195038
>t. bosch

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>>16195042
>and I'm getting the sumo version
What a waste

At least it isn't a ruined 500EXC

>>16195038
>trying to use statistics in a hobby enjoyed by so many idiots

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>>16195039
you can't have everything, why do we always need to tell people this.

>I want a 100kg wet 2 stroke dirt bike that is totally reliable and can be commuted on daily

like seriously, do you people not understand compromise.

>>16195046
I might sell the other three and get a XB12s or ZX-12r

>>16195056
>What is a KDX200

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bigger disks mean better braking?

>>16195042
why would you get the sumo version

why is the bonneville so fucking uncomfortable
it's like sitting on a god damn rock

>>16195039
>commuting daily
That excludes all MX bikes and their derivatives.
If you want a 2-stroke you may get away with a KDX200/220 but I still don't think it would be idea. If you want cheap and good trail-worthiness pick one of those up for like $1500 tops and go about plating it yourself.
If you're mostly commuting and riding wide open trails the 650s shouldn't be too bad.

>>16195074
Yes

>>16195065
at least 10% heavier than that, not street legal, and also outdated


>>16195074
It means more mechanical advantage so you have to squeeze the lever slightly less (assuming all other factors remain the same).

>>16195036
it can and does handle like a liter bike because it... is a liter bike.

>>16195089
It is not a liter bike. 1300cc>1000cc

>>16195076
Because 90%of my riding is on road. I'll get a brake breaker and some dirt wheels too.

>>16195015
my bet is, that this can be said about every dual sport.

>>16195078
15-30 min co.ute time daily
Top speed of 50 mph (65-70 would be nice)
Offroading on power lines tight trails and sand pits as well as on road shenanigans
E start would be nice but not a necessity I'm used to kicl starting

A klx300 would be a pretty good match
Dr350 would be nearly perfect
Maybe a wr426 (there's one on sale for cheap)
Or maybe a wr250(also for sale near me but fucking sueprmoto)
F

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>>16195074
also larger discs dissipate heat better.

>>16195095
>brake breaker
a what?

>>16195085
>Still light as fuck
>Comes with lights and can easily be converted
>Carrying about something being outdated when two strokes haven't been popular since the 70s and brand new ones still come with carbs

>>16195089
This, in fact it's 30% more liter bike than other bikes in the class

>>16195100
Bracket*
You need one to fit the SM caliper on dirt wheels

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>>16195102
>two strokes haven't been popular since the 70s

lol wut

>>16195094
>1300cc not a liter
>999cc not a liter
Literbikes confirmed for nonexistent

>>16195107
SM caliper won't clear the spokes on dirt wheels I've told you this before

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>>16195109

>>16195107
I get first dibs to ride huskydog to mount hammy to hoon

>>16195109
>>16195094
there is the 1299 :^)

>>16195122
K

>>16195113
A friend of mine told there was a bracket that would let you do it

>>16195122
ALSO NOT A LITER

>>16195143
surprisingly accurate

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WOO REARSETS JUST ARRIVED

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>>16195097
So buy a damn DR650, change the seat, and be done.

>>16195143
>can't conceive of my death
Sure I can but whatever I want to have fun.

>>16195109
is there even a bike with exactly 1000cc?

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>>16195102
u tryna say somethin about muh carbs white boy?

>>16195152
What bike?
I'm debating getting some for mine, but I like standing on the pegs to stretch on long trips

>>16195154
You think a dr650 will handle sand pits and tight trails? Jumps even?

Going to call a guy about a klx300 tomorrow
If that doesn't work out idk mang

>>16195165
Carbs suck and I know this because I've rebuilt them on most of the bikes I've owned
Every argument against EFI is bad

>>16195165
Yes carbs make you fat

>>16195169
>sand pits
Proper tires will see this handled.
>tight trails
>jumps
Depends on your skill. Also, mild suspension upgrades will handle everything if you find the OEM (soft) suspension insufficient.

>>16195170
>>16195170
>can't do keybangers

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>>16195166
SV650

I shrekt the stock ones and I want more clearance anyway, now just have to sort out the kickstand for track days.

>>16195178
>Can program them into EFI and do them with a button push of you care that much

>>16195175
I feel like it may be too pigfat for my liking
Rode a friend's xr650l and it just felt kinda sad for hooning

Maybe il try to find one to try out

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>>16195179
strayan sv anon?

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>>16195205
ofc

>>16195143
wheres supermoto

>>16195169
dr650 is a pig, but with the right mods and the right rider it does fine offroad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGdLm9sXzdo

>>16195242
win dija crash?

>can't bumpstart an EFI bike
not sure if it's better than a carbed bike desu

>>16195286
You can bumpstart efi bikes.

>>16195286
yes you can. The battery has to have a little bit of charge to get the injectors and fuel pump to work but it has to be very very dead in order for those to not turn on.

>>16195286
>

>>16195295
One time the alternator in my car failed and my motor shut off in the middle of ohio on a road trip
is it reasonable to say stator failure in EFI bike = call the tow truck?

Posted earlier today

Possibly purchasing 2017 SV650 tomorrow, going to the dealership for my second visit.

Tips for getting the lowest price? I don't need dealer financing so they can't get me there.

Figure I'll start talking about throwing in a helmet or something first and then after a little while just ask what the best they'll do is or tell them I'll take their offer if they make it $7k out the door.

What's /dbt/'s experience with
>buying new
?

Not my first bike, btw, and don't have to leave tomorrow on a bike but I fully intend to if they meet me on a deal.

>>16195328
Don't buy new on a beginner bike didiot

>>16195325
a fucked stator/alternator in a carbed bike can fuck up the ignition as well

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>>16195341
>Reading comprehension

oh holy shit anon

>>16195328
>buying new
>not a DRZ400SM

>>16195351
What am I not understanding?
The sv650 is a beginner bike.

>>16195349
True, but it must take a much longer time for the spark plug to drain the battery than a fuel pump, right?

>>16195363
Oh I thought you misunderstood, sorry anon

Now I know you can read you're just retarded

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>>16195242
KTM 390 dude back.
Went to IMS today and I love this meme machine

>>16195377
Did I say something contentious? The sv650 is the most recommended starter bike out there.
Feel free to piss away money though - it's yours after all

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>tfw ultimately want to track my R3 shitbike
>new sprockets, stock front/+2 in the rear
>full system exhaust
>tune
>race plastics
>get race suit and other gear
>hit track and crash a lot

>>16195096
Yeah but the others don't cost $10k+

For that price the bike should be pretty well set up, not sprung for a 115lb rider and less than a gallon of gas

>>16195397
>Lower the top speed of a bike thats already slow

>>16195407
Maybe he's hitting it hard on the go kart track?

>>16195402
Consider a DR-Z costs over 70% of that before any mods it's really not that bad.

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>>16195407
>implying I don't want better acceleration

>>16195413
What he said.

>>16195407
lol didn't you lower the gearing on your drz?

>>16195429
I raised it, went -3 on the back.

>>16195423
But if you have to make the same mods to the $10k+ bike, why not start cheaper?

DRZ400S MSRP is $6500
690 Enduro is $10500
That's $4k in mods which means you could have the suspension professionally overhauled and do a Renazco seat and still have plenty left over for a big bore and supporting mods

I don't even like the DR-Z but come on, a $10k dirt bike should be pretty well set up from the factory