AE111

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>>16139701
Yes

>>16139701
Pros
-looks better (subjective)
-4AGE
-Cheaper

Cons
-FWD

Think of a slightly worse dc2 type r and you've got the idea.

I'd imagine the super slut suspension on them is even harder to replace than the celica's too.

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>>16139719
>Cons
>none
Ftfy

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I own both

AE111 i drive daily
AE86 i drive on the weekends

>>16139726
Can confirm, superslut indeed to change

Toyotas worst mistake was the fwd

nobody would even look sideways at the ae86 if the ae111 was rwd

should have kept the truenos and levins rwd and the economy ones fwd like they did with the ae80 series corollas

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>>16139736
>HE LITERALLY DOESN'T THINK FWD IS A CON

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>>16139736
But how would one dorifto

Genuine question: Why buy one when the Celica exists?

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yes

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>>16139738
just finished rebuilding the cunt, still ironing out some idling issues

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>>16139739
>he thinks that his shitty live rear axle ae86 is better because it's rwd

>>16139738
You are literally living my dream you bastard

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>>16139741
1999 Levin BZ-R: 2380lb
1999 Celica GT-4: 3064lb
The levin is much better for touge. Also glorious 20v

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>>16139752
do this in your fwd cuckmobile, & i'll apologize

go on, i'll wait

>protip: Y O U C A N T

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>>16139760
>thinking any part of the pictured car is an ae86

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>>16139760
>he thinks drifting is fast
How cute.

>>16139759
The GT4 had AWD and a turbo, it was a much faster car.

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>>16139760
why would you want to go slower

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>>16139762
>>16139764
>MUH FWD IS LE FAST
>CHASSSY LAYOUT DONT NOT MATTER BECUZ LAP TIMES HURRRRR

i can't hear you over all the fun i'm having, you might have to speak up.

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>>16139771
i'm the guy who owns both breh

stop acting like a retard
please, for the love of fuck

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>>16139769
>>16139764
also,
>thinking a ~30 year old toyota will be fast unmodified

breddy sure you can drift a stock 86, faggot.

>>16139738
Toyota and their many sad mistakes.
No last gen gt-four Celica. No gt-four corolla, instead they thought we'd want a mostly fucking automatic people carrier thing.
And the xxw30 not having a 2zz from factory baffles me, they offered a turbo kit for the 1zz ffs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RurMscVVQbs
>factory version of this pls Toyota, even a ltd edition jdm special would've done.

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>>16139774
>he thinks that a STOCK ae86 is faster than a BZ-R
Wew lad.

>>16139774
a stock AE111 is faster than an AE86 by a mile

it handles better
stops better
sounds better


AE86 cant compete

>>16139778
>going faster in my shitty car with the wrong drivetrain layout is superior to having fun

yes, because your ~30 year old unmodified fwd toyota will be V E R Y competitive on the racetrack

>>16139765
I just think it might have an edge on very technical tight roads were power wouldn't give any major advantage. I have nothing against the celica, but you just wanted a reason why some one would chose the ae111 over one.

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>this thread

i'm out

>>16139784
AE86s arent even fun when theyre stock

src

a Corolla GT-S coupe

it will be much more competitive than a stock AE86

you really need to learn how to argue

>>16139792
I had an st205, can confirm was gud but didn't like really tight stuff without some handbrake action.
On a flowing road it was hilarious fun though.

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>>16139784
>he can't have fun driving his car on a public road without getting arrested
I'll just have fun driving my levin onthe local touge

>>16139796
>AE86s arent even fun when theyre stock
wrong. They are nimble little cars and feel great to drive.

Just because they're a meme doesn't mean they're bad.

>>16139796
1. if you're driving a ~30 year old toyota i highly doubt you're trying to be competitive
2. if you were trying to be competitive, i guarantee it wouldn't be in a fucking fwd chassis
3. quite literally everyone knows that rwd is superior to fwd for fun

>>16139803
No, just the na mx5 does everything the 86 did but better.

>>16139793
I know, corolla theads are usually much more civilized

>>16139803
so does a Civic hatch and a smorgasbord of other small econoboxes

after driving so many they really arent that special

theyre too slow to be much fun compared to something like a Civic Si

>>16139807
this guy has it right too

open top alone makes the Miata more fun

>>16139807
gt86 does everything a miata does too.

>choise is bad

>>16139821
A gt86 can't be had under a grand. I'd like one when they get cheap as a daily but you'd need to be a complete flaming retard to have bought one new.

>>16139807
Having owned an FX16 (FF corolla), an NA8 miata, an AW11, and driven an AE86 GTS. I shall put them in order of most to least fun based on my experience.
>AE86
>FX16
>AW11
>NA8
Fast doesnt mean fun
Suspension or drivetrain doesn't mean fun
Its just about how the car feels to you.
>feels meme
But its true. Some people think driving an international TD9 is fun too. And it tops out at like 12mph.

Civic just killed other FWD performance cars.

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>>16139760
>arguing for a car using a picture of a car that literally has no relation to an AE86 other than sharing it's shell

I like the AE86 don't get me wrong, but you're just retarded

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>>16139802
>drifting wont get you arrested
come on anon you cant actually believe that