Dear /o/,
I'm looking for a cheap sporty/luxury car that I can use as a comfortable around-townmobile. I will use it to learn to drive a manual transmission and to learn to work on cars. My only criteria:
>$5kish budget, though $3kish would be even better
>Must be manual
>Must be reasonably luxurious/sporty
>Must not be a total basket case wrt reliability, and parts shouldn't be too expensive
>Like to avoid anything from VAG or BMW
With that said I've picked out these as likely candidates:
>Jag X-type
V6 models had a manual
>Jag S-type
Also some V6s had manuals, though these are unicorns
>Mid-aughts Saab 9-3/9-5
Ideally I'd find a V6 with a 6-speed for one of these
Anyone have insight into these models? Any cars that fit into my budget that I'm missing? I'm attracted to these so far because I know the Jags are basically Fords and the Saab is a GM product, so I'm hoping reliability won't be too bad and parts won't be too expensive.
>>16063610
>luxury
>manual
pick one.
get an ls400 or a civic for 3k and fuck off.
>>16063610
Saab is probably your best bet for a manual sporty luxury(-ish) car that's not a BMW, despite >FWD.
>>16063610
is300
2jz rwd lsd
Acura TL?
If you want cheap and maintainability saab is not it. Never worked on jaguar before so idk. Why not pre-2005 acura TL?
>>16063711
Yeah I'm not super enthused about the FWD but I think I can deal with that. Saab 9-3 is currently my front-runner, as it has the widest selection for me to choose from, and I can get it as a wagon.
>>16063712
That's not a bad idea actually. The lowest priced ones are a bit above my budget but I'll keep a look out for deals.
>>16063749
>>16063750
I do like the look of those. I'll add that to the list and keep a look out for one in my budget.
>>16063712
SC300 also good
>>16063755
So save longer faggot.
>>16063875
Oh I have the money, I just don't want to spend that much for what I'm going to use this car for. And if I did spend enough for that I'm suddenly dangerously close to Cadillac CTS-V money, which I would buy instead.
>cheap
>luxury
>manual
kek
Enjoy your busted Acura, OP!
>>16063610
Saab 9-5 over 9-3, there's less GM DNA in it. Picked up a 2003 9-5 Aero for £1200. Comfiest car I've ever driven. Look for pre-2006 though, they get a bit corporate and bland after that - not to mention the fucking awful headlight redesign.
I don't know why you would want a """""luxury""""" car you can get for $3000-5000.
Big engines and around town trips dont mix great, engine never gets up to temp and wears alot
>>16064033
>7k for a is300
>close to cts-v money
what are you on about m8?
>>16063798
Good luck finding one that is both manual and not trashed
>>16063610
>jag X-type/Jag S-type
what is financial suicide
>Mid-aughts Saab 9-3/9-5
Buy some "i'm with her" bumper stickers while you're at it
>>16063711
>>16063755
My saab is awd tho. V6 2.8 xwd manuel trans
>>16063749
This is the only serious contender at ops price point. Op can't afford the maintenance on anything else.
>>16066108
But I am with her, so...
why yall motherfuckers so afraid of VAG cars
>>16063610
What you're looking for is a g20. Even though you sound like a douche and don't deserve any more replies than this cause this is the only "cheap luxury car" you can own/afford to fix and learn to wrench on with that shitty budget that will barely get you a decent civic.
Volvo 850R/T-5R or turbo, Volvo s70 T5 (preferably 98)
or if you want a fordvo s60 T5.
Can be found in manual for a resonable price and very good cars except for the fordvo. With a 19T turbo the 850/S70 2.3 turbo's can make 330 hp and with a good tune you wont break any parts in engine. Stock form they are good till 350bhp on stock turbo u can get around 290hp
>>16067225
>bland/boring to drive
>shit to work on
>unreliable as shit once the warranty runs out
Alright! Lets answer some common complaints that everyone is calling me a douchefag for.
> You can't get a luxury car in manual, fuckface
You can.
> you can't get a luxury car for $5k, shithead
Go to your local craigslist, type in "Saab" and tick the manual checkbox. You can get basically whatever you want for $5k. Depreciation has not been kind. Hasn't been kind to the jags either. People don't want to buy 4 door luxury(ish) cars that are 12 years old and were second rate when they came out. They aren't worth jack shit now.
>you can't afford the maintenance, faggot
I don't mind spending money on the maintenance as much, my $5k budget does not take that into account. I already have a late model, reliable car, I won't be walking if the shitbox breaks down and I can take my time hunting ebay or junkyards or whatever for parts if I need to. I'm not asking for or expecting showroom models here.
I got an '08 9-3 last year, I'm absolutely in love with it. Would really recommend one. Not the sportiest, not the most luxurious, but it's by far the best you can get under $10k. It's also so unique and pretty, and maintenance so far been great, unlike what some people might say.
Get a e46 330Ci. I know you think you don't want a BMW but I'd be willing to bet that driving one would change your mind. Especially if you have maintenance covered.