My mechanic told me that Subarus are the worst brand. Is she right?

Driven by 18-20 year old vape shit heads and lesbians. Sounds about right.

>>16041228
Perhaps it's time to get a new mechanic. Subarus are great to work on.

>>16041228
>mechanic
>she
I thought lesbians love Subaru

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>>16041228
>she

Find a new mechanic anon.

>>16041228
OLD subarus had issues, which is what mechanics often saw and based opinions on

>>16041234
>lesbaru

>>16041279
NEW subarus still have issues like the crazy af oil burning and steering columns breaking.

>She
Is right. Would never buy one of those POS.

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>>16041228
She's wrong.
t.Subaru mechanic.
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>>16041228
Fiat and Volkswagen are the worst brands. Subaru is mid-low tier along with Nissan and Mitsubishi.

>>16041556
Volkswagen is better than most, never in my life have I ever had a Chrysler product last more than 10k without a breakdown, even before Chrysler bought out Dodge, the 68 dodge dart broke down every oil change because the fuel pump had a plastic propeller that was extremely brittle. The new Toyota's don't last for shit either, at least when my mk4 needs something, its either MM bolt or a Torx bit to do it.

>>16041292
Top kek

ford is

well yes cars do tend ot break down if you dont service them regularly

perhaps you americans missed out on that

fuckwits

>>16041642
>well yes GERMAN cars do tend to break down if you service them regularly

FTFY

how do you guys not know this is bait

>>16041228
>she

>she
You listened to a woman and believed what she said about cars?

There's a lot of Subaru's around and people claim they love them. But then I hear about the ringland issues, engine replacements at 20k miles, shitty head gaskets, glass transmissions, etc. Sounds like a fanboy brand to me.

>>16041917
I know but female mechanic is like my fetish. The only chick I knew who worked on her jeep was a 2/10 Pat and honestly personality only got her to a weak 4.

But a 7/10 changing my oil and pressing my bearings....hnnng

>>16042397
>not doing the work yourself
So do you just have a fleshy mound where your dick and balls should be?

My friend has a Forester that I have been maintaining for the last year. It has 250k miles on it. She neglected the shit out of it. I did a full fluid flush, brakes, belts and changed the radiator because the OEM ones are plastic and crack easily lol. The car is fucking bulletproof. 250k miles - no timing belt or water pump change. Only AC belt snapped. And only just recently is the drivetrain acting up after years and years of city driving.

I heard about the blown gasket thing in the 2.5 engines but really I think most of that has been improved since the mid 2000s-2010.

The only real downside is changing sparkplugs. You gotta pull the whole fucking air filter and batter out just to reach them easily. Other than thay they are as solid as most Japanese cars built to survive even the shittiest of owners.

FWIW I own a 240sx and daily drive a Chevy and don't particularly care for Subaru enough to ever buy one. Looking for a used WRX would be a nightmare - not because the brand is bad but because the fanboys are learning to drive on factory fast awd toys for manchildren that would total their car in an actual race that isn't an improvised rolling start on your local highways.

Peace.

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I love Subarus, I had an STi for 65k miles and never had problems, but I did my research and even datalogged often. I left the Subie scene a few years ago but I know of some issues:

>Problem 1
When you do a clutch dump or ramp up on the power too quickly, what happens in most cars? The wheels spin.

Now, when you have a good AWD system all that happens is gears in the drivetrain (trans or diff) absorb the shock. The Subaru 5-speed was designed before putting 300+ to the wheels was common in Subaruland, and it is prone to breakage, especially pre-2004 models before they beefed it up a little.

>Problem 2
The internal wastegate in some Subaru OEM turbos was designed to accommodate stock boost and little more. If you turned up the boost to 20+ psi and had a fully-catless exhaust, the wastegate could not flow enough and you'd get "boost creep," where you'd get pressures over what you tuned for (e.g. 24 psi) which would fuck shit up.

>Problem 3
There are things called "filtered banjo bolts" in several places. I believe the most important one is in the oil line feeding the turbo. They were well-intentioned - filter the oil before it reaches the precious turbos. But Subaru never talked about them in the owners manual and many people never replaced / cleaned / removed them and they'd get clogged - starving the turbo of oil, overheating it, and leading to many types of failure.

>Problem 4
Premature headgasket / piston ring / cylinder wall wear on certain models. Power mods would quicken this effect. If I bought a used turbo Subaru today I would get a high-performance engine rebuild very quickly, even before the usual mods.

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>>16041228
>She

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>>16043524
How long does a turbo last in a non-STI WRX?

A friend is looking at a 2008 WRX with 120k miles, will he have to replace the turbo soon?

>she
as if a women knows shit about cars, come the fuck on anon.

But yeah she right, subaru a shit

Blown head gaskets were a problem with the earlier 2.5s. I had someone here once claim they were also a problem with the 3.0s and maybe also a 3.6. I put 40K miles on my first Forester and 120K miles on my second Forester and never had a problem. My 3.6 Outback has only 25K miles, but it's running like a smooth, powerful top.

Even if they blow it's only a $1500 repair. My wife's Mini has been in the shop every 36K miles to have the heads pulled and de-coked. $750. So far we're in for $1500 and headed for another $750 next summer. I won't even go into all the other expenses - it's a BMW.

Now heat shields on Subarus....that's another matter.

>>16043524
>There are things called "filtered banjo bolts" in several places.
I've never heard of these before. Seems like a pretty big thing to omit from the manual. What interval should they be serviced at?

>>16043524
>Now, when you have a good AWD system all that happens is gears in the drivetrain (trans or diff) absorb the shock. The Subaru 5-speed was designed before putting 300+ to the wheels was common in Subaruland, and it is prone to breakage, especially pre-2004 models before they beefed it up a little.

This is why I will never buy a used manual WRX or even Forester. Too many ricer bois out there abusing the shit out of these cars + glass transmissions = fucked car.

There is a reason these cars have such a terrible reputation and resale value: the young owners.

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>>16041556
>volkswagen
>the worst
Don't talk shit about VAG bro

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>>16044067
As long as it's well taken care of I wouldn't worry. Then again it's a Subaru

>>16044067
You might as well upgrade to an sti turbo while you're at it

>>16041228
>she
opinion discarded

>>16041279
>OLD Subarus had fixable issues
Ftfy

>>16044137
>Terrible resale value
Nigga wat
I can't find any 97-04 impreza under $4000. And the ones that are that price are usually eat up with miles.

>>16041228

completely right, i was a mechanic for 6 years and you learned to hate Subarus. theyre just a mess of oil leaks, headgasket issues, and burning your fucking arm changing the oil filter. im surprised the Japanese were stupid enough to go with an engine design that inherently pools oil into one side of the valvecovers constantly

the worst part is theres 10,000,000 JDM ones here in Canada because everyone wants the AWD for winter

>>16044489
Yep, they seem to hold value really well in my area too and that's rusted out beaters as well.

>>16044763

So do you live in Denver or Boulder?

Nah worstbrand is GM and thats an understatement

>>16044773
Neither, I'm in Moorhead, MN. It's a border city to Fargo, ND (most know Fargo and not Moorhead kek).

>>16044778
Funny way of spelling Dodge.

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>>16044118
http://www.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=Info_SubaruOil

>>16044095
I think the new FB engine family eliminated the HG issue, semi open deck

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>>16044522

>>16041556
The worst is chrysler. Plain and simple. Comes broken from the factory.

>>16041241
I hope I'm not the only one that realizes this is bait kek

>>16045321
You know I just don't understand how people can defend Dodge after their quality went to shit. My little brother has a Plymouth Breeze (basically a dodge stratus) that is just fucking terrible. No room to work on shit, unreliable, and ugly as hell to boot.

>>16045842
Or maybe /o/ is full of a bunch of fucking spergs who can't even put together Legos without instructions. Here's my stock 2.5 getting new head gaskets at 230k miles. It took an hour to get the entire engine out, another to take it apart and 4 more to get it back in and running with new ps pump, clutch, timing belt water pump and heads. Seriously convinced /o/ is trash cause it's full of dumbfuck benchracers

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>>16045917
Forgot pic. Here's the block

>>16044793
I used to visit Moorhead for all the state college sluts

Any brand that has young inexperienced tuners wrenching and hooning their cars is going to have it's reliability artificially hindered. Remove WRX's and STI's from the equation and the numbers suddenly start to sing a different tune.

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>>16045352
>it requires periodic cleaning with each oil change
Time to start pricing out a third engine.

>>16041228
>she

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>>16041228
As several have already said, no, they're great cars, very easy to work on

There were a couple of issues (head gaskets on Phase I and II EJ25, ringland issues with EJ257, etc.)
but they are very much dependent on good maintenance and not hard to sort out

I've got 175k on my Forester, notorious for HG failure, but when I pulled the motor for a clutch a couple of thousand miles ago they looked great, you just need to be diligent on keeping up with oil and coolant to preserve them.

The main problem is that people treat them like a Corolla because it's japanese, and neglect turns sour very quickly

They are a little fragile but I've been driving mine hard in the Rockies, and offroading fairly frequently, and it's never let me down
Very capable off road and very good driving dynamics for what it is, not to mention extremely practical and suited to my lifestyle
Not to mention it's fun having an alternative motor configuration, almost like a rotary in some ways if you'll forgive me for making the comparison

Can't wait to throw the snow tires on for the winter, with the manual trans comes a god tier 50/50 viscous coupling AWD system, similar to the one found in the legendary e30 325ix

>>16044773
keked pretty good

>>16046317
whoops I used "not to mention" twice in consecutive sentences, just fuck me up

not to mention, our family had a '99 Foz growing up and that fuckin thing was a trooper and a half, went to 300k on the original motor and one HG replacement before we sold it to some kid in good running shape

with airplanes and subarus alike: age and mileage are relevant, but proper care and maintenance are more important

>>16046317
btw, wasn't trying to make the AWD seem more techy than it is- that's the beauty of it -
a very simple but effective mechanical system with no sensors or computers or fwd biased bullshit, just good ole true AWD.

also, I calculate mpg between every fill up, and it comes out to 25mpg on the dot every time, which isn't bad at all considering most of my driving is on the toegay or rolling hills

>>16044194
BARASU

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I love my Subaru STI. It's 4wd, reliable, decent on gas... oh and it's fast.

>>16046127
Haha, Moorhead's pretty good for that.

>>16041228

My 1996 impreza wagon that I got for dirt cheap and have owned for almost 3 years has almost 230k miles and runs like a champ. I've beaten the living shit out of this car hauling ass on dirt roads, taken it off road, pulled out a fucking jeep out of a mudhole, driven it on the beach countless times and it doesn't give a fuck, it has literally never let me down. I don't understand why anyone would ever say they are the worst brand, are you sure she didn't mean ford?

>>16046409
>living in that shit hole neighborhood.
That car cost more than your house. Good investment.

I miss my Forester so much.

>>16046594
looks pretty comfy to me

>>16046557
that's another thing, the 1.8/2.2 engined cars from the 90's to 2000's are indestructible

the 2.5s got a bad rep from the head gasket issues but still pretty damn good

there's really nothing overtly wrong with Subaru. If you're in a place where AWD is beneficial they're really the only non shit-tier choice. They're also one of the very few actual Wagons sold in the US

>>16044067
2008 is the worst wrx ever, dont touch them. So many problems and feel like a corolla compared to all other models

>>16046358
>>16044194
Suffaru Impreza

>mechanic
>she

>>16041556
>>comparing subaru to nissan and mitsu
Are you brain dead?

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Rear wheel bearings pre 02/lateral link bolt
Head gaskets.
Plugs are a bitch
Wimpy rear suspension
Sponges in rear wheel well rot your car from inside out.
Glorious Nippon steel turns to rust with hint of salt.

>>16048004
what about the 2.0?

>>16049893

sponge?

>>16051082
Ah yeah forgot about it, we only got the 2.0 in turboed form in the WRX

But yeah if my head gaskets blow I will be swapping in either a JDM N/A 2.0 or a 2.2 if I can find one for cheap

A complete 2.0 is like $800 and a direct swap into my Forester

That's another great thing about Subarus, parts are very interchangeable, I can swap the suspension and motor from any GD STI into my Forester with no hassle if I want, just have to get the wiring done

Subaru #1

boxer engine = more room in engine bay
repairs are comfy af

I'm gonna be building a 2.2/2.5 frankenmotor here over the winter, but the 93 legacy the 2.2 heads are coming from lasted me 5+ years, was an auto, banged on it every day, and I still managed to get 72,xxx miles out of it; Subarus are the shit.

My new wrx looks easy af to work on, but I'm not a mechanic so idk. I do know the oil filter is on top of the engine and changing the oil is a breeze. Used to have an altima that i had basically dislocate my wrist just trying to reach the fucking filter under the car

>>16051092
What's in my hand is the sound deadening insulation from the factory. Foam smashed in the wheel well that water can access.

Sponge.
Fucked.

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>>16041228
>Subarus are the worst brand
Nah.

>>16045917
Having a lift and a shop makes things 10000000000000x easier bro. People here don't even have a driveway.

In my experience, all Chrysler vehicles are pieces of shit.

All of them. Every single one of them is a lemon or dreams of becoming a lemon.

>>16041272
>you will never be the guy to get paid for setting up retarded pictures like this

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should i buy it?

>>16041228
>she

into the trash

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>>16041228
>My mechanic told me that Subarus are the worst brand.

Consumer Reports has just released its latest consumer automobile reliability rating results. Buick became the first auto brand from Detroit's Big 3 automakers in three decades Monday to place in the top three in Consumer Reports' annual ranking of the most reliable automobiles. Out of 29 brands, Asian nameplates accounted for seven of the top 10 spots. Lexus was ranked first, with a predicted reliability score of 86, followed by Toyota, Buick, Audi, Kia, Mazda, Hyundai, Infiniti, BMW and Honda. Vehicles sold by Fiat Chrysler Automobiles continued to struggle in the survey with four of its brands — Dodge, Chrysler, Fiat and Ram — occupying the bottom four slots.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/10/24/consumer-reports-reliability-survey-puts-buick-top-3/92678638/

How Consumer Reports ranked brands by reliability:

1, Lexus (last year #1)

2. Toyota

3. Buick

4. Audi

5. Kia

6. Mazda

7. Hyundai

8. Infiniti

9. BMW

10. Honda

11. Subaru

12. Acura

13. Nissan

14. Mini

15. Chevrolet

16. Porsche

17. Mercedes-Benz

18. Ford

19. Volvo

20. Lincoln

21. Cadillac

22. Volkswagen

23. Jeep

24. GMC

25. Tesla

26. Dodge

27. Chrysler

28. Fiat

29. Ram

PICTURE of Dodge RAM being #1 in reliable ramming speed test.

>>16042384
>Subaru
>Glass transmissions
literally the opposite is true though

>>16057119
Rams are hot garbage. I drive several at work and everything falls apart. Somehow the fucking manifold started coming off on a vehicle with 30k on it. Unbelievable shit.

>>16041272
that looks painful

>>16043524
>problem 1
wrong. sounds like you're lying about owning a subaru for 65k or you're just retarded. the wheels spin in a subaru also.

>>16056506
no reason not to

>>16057269
the guy's asking 2.2k. is that a good deal?

>>16057286
That sounds like a terrible deal but you should anyway as long as it runs. It would be fucking hilarious to drive that thing. Especially if you started going off road with it.

>>16044522
Wow, you were a pretty shit mechanic there, eh?

Subaru oil filters are damn easy to get to you if you aren't a completely incompetent Canadian fuckwit. Sure, the headgasket issues were a deal on a limited number of cars, but your case on oil leaks are overblown to hell. Every car has oil leaks past a certain point.

>stupid enough to go with an engine design that inherently pools oil into one side of the valvecovers constantly

As if a Honda J motor doesn't do that. It doesn't affect shit.

Congrats, you were a shit mechanic.

>>16057321
i'm going to offer 1500 with a thick wad of cash in front of the dmv. I only drive like 40 miles max every day so I think I'll be able to afford it.

I guess I can join the modded out genesis and wrx's at the back of the college parking lot lmao

>>16057337
>>16057342
just texted the guy. he said 119k mi. I might actually buy it. fug

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>>16057342
>>16057376
>>16057385
I desperately want to see that thing go mudding. It'll probably fail miserably but it would be fucking hilarious. All sorts of lifted trucks swimming through mud and then comes a fucking impreza. And if you actually succeed? It'd be like watching a 'vette get smoked by a twingo. Glorious.

>>16057822
unfortunately, no turbo.

2.2 96' so im hoping it'll be at least bulletproof.

>>16057385
lmao for one, it will drive like shit compared to a stock impreza, the 2.2 will be strained pretty hard

Speedo will be inaccurate and god knows what else he hacked together

If it's just lifted with something like SUMO spacers you'll be going through CV joints and all kinds of other shit once a month

There's probably a reason he's selling it for so cheap

It's an independent suspension vehicle, it's not meant for off roading, the articulation is shit and it looks like theres about 6 inches of space before the tires hit the fender

I'm all for dumb shit like this, but if you want to off road buy an old toyota truck or YJ/XJ Jeep, this is purely for looks

inb4 people post videos of off road Subarus, but they'll be Leones and purpose built, not this hackjob

>>16057141
in the 06,07+ you are correct but in the bugeyes and blobs those trans are shit.

>>16054460
Is german reliability just a meme? Every Audi owner i know spends half his time at a mechanic because every thing breaks all the time.

>>16059714
thanks for the wise words.

i texted the guy about going to a dealership or shop to take a look at the engine and then he got scurred

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>>16061471
>>16059714
Pic related

>>16057202
They do, but it takes more torque to do it, you can shock the drivetrain before you spin the wheels, especially if you have 3 lsds like the STi. Also, it is unlikely if you have summer tires or better.

I'm 28, I do not Vape. Picked up my first Subaru this last saturday. It's a 2003 Impreza 2.5 RS. I love Subies because I'm a huge Ralli fan and plan to race, hopefully in the near future. They are great cars for beating on and parts are easy to come by.

>>16062925
You're either a lesbian or you will start to vape soon enough. It's a requirement of Lesbaru ownership.