BMW, Mercedes-Benz

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>>16029548
///M

Audi RS

>>16029555
>Audi

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Mopar

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>>16029630
this

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>>16029548
>//M for preformance
>AMG for appearance and luxury

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Renault is obviously the best European car company.

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>>16029630
Mopar or nocar

>>16029548
AMG becase its just a german chrysler. and like all chryslers it spends more time in the shop than driving

>>16029651
i like them thicc tyres in da back

15 years ago it would have been //M but now it's either AMG or caddie.

>>16029555
>AMG/M money for a fucking VW

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BMW M has been making only disappointments on wheels since the early 2000's, with only a few exceptions (E46 M3, M1, M2).

Mercedes-AMG makes a lot cooler cars and they have a marvelous V12 engine which powers all Paganis.

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>>16029548
>///M
It's just "M"

>>16031022
>thinks the '/' isn't included

What about /////AMG?

>>16030997
>not e60 m5
>the poor man's true supercar

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AMG makes supercars. AMG dominates F1.

BMW literally cannot compete.

AUDI RS
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>>16029555
>>16032406

Audis are for girls.

>>16032409
I am for girls too.

>>16032409
what, you aren't?

have fun getting aids, faggot

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>>16030997
>>16032365
>AMG faggots literally do not have a manual transmission
>550 pounds of useless luxury bullshit in AMG """"performance"""" cars

yeah if you have a nice & tight vagina, AMG is perfect for you.

real performance enthusiasts own ///M cars.

>pic related
>will shit on every modern AMG

>>16032436
>Implying that DCT isn't a superior transmission you fucking cunt

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>>16029548
>>16029554
>>16029688
>>16032436
>///

>>16032443
>hey guys look at me i am too much of a pussy to shift my gears myself
>waaaaaa clutch pedal too stiff for my pussy legs
>i can't rev match or heel toe waaaaaaaa
>implying a 20 year old dct will even hold a candle to an older manual transmission

>>16032436
>implying any serious sports car still has a manual over a DCT
typical uneducated BMW shitskin

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>>16029548

I choose Ralli///// /////Art

>>16032472
Wow you have no idea how a DCT works. Enjoy your inferior technology you retarded fanboi.

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>>16032473
>>16032477
>are intimidated by manual transmission cars
>still projecting this hard

just a typical day on /o/

AMG used to be cool, now they whore the name out on everything. Literally A classes with AMG.

>>16032502
>underage no car faggot has no idea about car technology but shitposts on /o/ about his favourite brand anyway like the little brandcuck he is
yup typical day on /o/

ABARTH
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>>16032443
Mercedes still uses torque converters though. Those aren't DCTs it has. BMW switched entirely from manuals to DCTs.

Also

>caring more about lap times and numbers than driving pleasure from a nice gearbox and clutch

This is why new BMWs are shit

>>16032508
As opposed to BMW slapping the M badge on pretty much everything? They're the two sides of the same coin these days, one is just handling-oriented with computer generated engine noise while the other makes stupid noisy burnout machines.

>>16032523
Mercedes is pretty successful in motorsports considering they only make stupid noisy burnout machines.

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>>16032516
holy shit you just described yourself, the typical /o/ poster. i didn't know you fucks were so self aware.

>a-class
>1 series

go back to your cucksheds
literally worse than a vw golf

>>16032537
>muh motorsport heritage
>muh track to showroom
>implying those cars have anything to do with the ones people buy

Come on, you can't be that naive

>>16032545
The 1 series is the best/most fun hatchback you can buy today
RWD/inline 6 turbo/manual transmission

>>16032523
I've been debating between a previous generation c63 and a newer M car for the past couple months. Speaking of slapping M badges on, lots of M235i cars coming off lease now and they seem good but I can't get over some of the gay shit they're doing now:
>fake engine noise
>auto rev matching manual (unless you're in sport+ all the time)
>electric power steering (here to stay, i know)
>no fucking oil/coolant temp gauge

These all seem like small issues but they add up to a lot of annoyance when combined. All these are pushing me towards the AMG but I'm fucking dying as someone who's owned an e46 and e92

>>16032555
The 1 series look like shit though. They're just... feminine. Something they've addressed with the 2 series

>>16032555
>""""luxury car"""""
>""""""ultimate driving machine"""""

yet a golf gti has a better quality interior and is more fun to drive

i guess the keys must get you a lot of gay sex though

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This

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>>16029651
>>16029630
>>16029984
YEAH, MOPAR!

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I want to say AMG but fuuuck I need me one of these

>>16029548
///V
But yeah I'd go with the car that is rwd, manual and a straight six so I guess BMW

>>16032521
>But muh pure driving pleasure.
Agreed, their whole philosophy changed and as a result so did their cars. It's sad to know that older BMWs are just objectively better than brand new ones.

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>>16032630
>///V

It's spelled V//

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What does /o/ think about Infiniti's /IPL?

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>not going with V///

>>16032652
>>>///V///

>>16032607
>>16032652
>>16032698
>having a shitty gloss plastic interior
>garbage build quality throughout the entire car
>shoddy materials used
>not built by germans
>general motors

this has to be b8.

>>16032698
Honestly I'd rather drive a 3.0 mkz ecoboost

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>>16032710
>ecoboost

You mean >EcoBoost

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>>16032567
>no temp gauge
Worst offender in modern cars, right next to fake exhaust noise
FUCK

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>>16032703
>having a shitty gloss plastic interior
>garbage build quality throughout the entire car
>shoddy materials used

I thought you were explaining BMW for a moment there lmao. Don't forget the Caddy also has the most horsepower, the best laptimes, and it's not the defacto car of every chink and trustfund kiddo.

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>>16032728
>thinking that germans are even comparable to the garbage quality that general motors puts out

>fingerprint magnet related

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>>16032739
>trying to act like there's any measurable difference in quality between these two interiors

The only luxury sedan/coupe manufacturer out there who has a step up on the other dorks is Benz, but I'm still taking the Caddy everyday as it's pulling ~150HP more than a C63 and ~90HP more than an M5.

I like ///M better because I'm a BMW fanboi; but overall AMG makes better cars. I wouldn't drive on though.

>>16032727
my 2013 135is has one

>>16032582
the golf does not have better interior quality though.
also the golf is fwd

>>16032753
so more hp=better car?
lel

>>16032753
you see how there's a ton more surfaces not covered in shiny plastic?

also, the hellcat cars have more horsepower than both the m5 & cts-v, is it better? according to your argument, it totally is.

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>>16032790
Better performance with the same everything else makes it a better car. The purpose of a luxury sports sedan is a comfortable highway rocket with a mountain of power that's at least competent in the corners. The Cadillac CTS-V does this better than BMW's waning ///M brand.

>>16032800
>you see how there's a ton more surfaces not covered in shiny plastic?

Fuckin' where, dude? Point it out for me.

>>16032785
rwd is a meme and the soft touch plastics on everything are better on the golf

checkmate atheist

>people unironically mentioning GM shit in a M vs AMG thread

fucking pathetic m8s. keep your plastic shit in the z06 threads

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>>16032806
the gloss surfaces on the M4 you attached are real carbon fiber from what i took 3 seconds to google, i see a ""carbon fiber"" finish on the cts-v's interior, but seeing as general motors produces it (with their F A N T A S T I C build quality), i'm just going to assume it isn't real.

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hey friends, what's going on here

>>16032806
the F10 M5 is still the best super saloon in terms of actual track performance despite being 6 years old
also remember the G30 5 series was just released and the new M5 is soon here

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>>16032838
looks like shite compared to the M5

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>>16032834
It's real carbon fiber, same shit as the Bimmer. I've been in both and the plastic around all the controls, the shifter, the vents, and the buttons themselves are no different than Caddy. BMW has never had great interiors and their new models aren't the same. The only new interiors I sat in and went: "Fuck, that is nice." is the new Benzes. The only thing I can argue against the way it all flows and feels is the big jumbotron nav system. I wish they'd have it be able to recess into the dash.

>>16032838
That thing was BEGGING for the NA LT1 V8, but that would make it too much like a better Camaro. Fuck the V6 they put in there.

>>16032852
>and their new models aren't the same.
are the same*

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>>16032800
Just because it's not gloss plastic doesnt mean its not plastic. The m4 has plastic all over but you're too much of a cocksucking fanboy to notice. Face it, bmw is producing hot garbage with indistinguishable exteriors. Their only car worth anything is the 2 series (6 saloon looks nice though). Enjoy your fake exhaust noise

>>16032925
Enjoy your gm """""quality"""""

>>16032925
>people on /o/ actually believe GM interiors are on par with BMW
whew

>>16032952
Im not the gm guy but i no doubt would enjoy driving the caddy more.
I guess badge meaning more to women is true

>>16032978
the caddy isn't even as driver/fun oriented as the BMW is

>>16032978
>here's how I benchrace

Don't care. Adults consider more than 1 factor when making large purchases.

>>16032476
Nice civic Si bro

>>16032850

Good thing the ATS-V is not an M5 competitor.

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>>16033040
yeah, it looks like overdesigned shit compared to the M3 F80

>>16032669
Never even fuckin heard of it t.b.h

>>16029548
I don't care

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>>16032985
>>16033007
>Caddy wins every objective metric, being the lightest and most powerful car within its segment designed on a chassis that's been praised for its steering feel and balance
>"b-b-b-but muh subjective driving feel between two cars I've never driven!"

lmao BMW fanboys please. There's always next time.

>>16032551
>what's better AMG or M
>well it's AMG for these reasons:...
>OMG I DON'T CARE
why don't you suck a dick then you glorious faggot

>>16033059
>overweight ugly and slow
Modern BMW in three words.

>>16033105
The M3 is still 500 lbs lighter and faster than the ATS V
LMFAO
>>16033079
post subjective proof?

>>16032472
You know most cars these days have a manual mode that have pretty much all the benefits of stick, w/o the danger of shifting incorrectly

>>16033129
manual mode is still automatic, it shifts whenever the computer decides to
and there is no 3rd pedal

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>>16032852
>>16032925
>>16033079
i leave after 1 hour after circling parts of the caddy i think are shit and this thread has blown into a full fledged display of autism.

driving feel is 100% subjective, and i MUCH prefer the M5, but saying the interiors are on par is window-licker tier retarded.

i have driven multiple cadillacs from ~1997-2015 & multiple bmw's from ~1983 to 2014 and the interiors were never even close in fit, finish, or overall quality. caddy just now started catching up in performance, what makes you think all other aspects of the car are close, with gm's shitty track record?

have you guys been in, or even fucking seen a GM interior?jesus christ, i don't know if this is b8 at this point.

>>16033135
A modern auto can shift faster than you can. I will %100 agree it's more fun to drive, but you can put more power down faster in an auto

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>>16029548
>>16029554
>>16032436

///stop ///posting ///M ///after ///the "///"
///Its ///just //////

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>>16033199
///M

>>16033148
What color is that?

>>16033246
Frozen Cashmere Silver

>sauce below

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1025387

>>16029630
>FCA

>>16032642
They have their moments. The current F10 M5/6 is a stunning car. So is the M2.

The M3/4 isn't as bad as people give it credit for, it's just that the market wants a technologically advanced futuristic shitheap, cars are getting bigger, and their competitors have spent the last 15+ years trying to match how it drives.

My main problem is the X5M/X6M, but I feel like they do those solely to print money off badge whore retards. Mercedes started the whole retarded expensive/fast SUV category anyways with the original ML55 AMG

>>16033588
expensive/fast/pointless SUV would be the G63 AMG

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>>16029548
Neither.
無限Mugen is best.

>>16034887
This

>>16034887
>making bodykits for fwd Econoboxes
Gross

>>16029548
AMG for sure

its on a whole another level performance wise

>>16034982
why are amg cars slower on track then?
why are amg cars so overly heavy
why are amg cars automatic only, with shit slow auto gearboxes

>>16032669
It needs to do more

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M

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AMG's are just boosted retirement homes on wheels.

If you want a true German performance brand that doesn't ride like its marketed to baby boomers get an ///M

M2 and M4 does circles around the CLA43 and C63

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>>16029630
MOPAR FOR LIFE

>>16029548
>yfw M and AMG are visual and interior trim packages on base model cars

>>16037108
>visual and interior trim packages
What is S62B50

>>16029548
>///M
It's fucking Motorsport you nignog.

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Nismo.

Brabus

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Abarth
Audi Rennsport
BMW Motorsport
Ford TeamRS
Ford Performance Vehicles
Holden Special Vehicles
John Cooper Works
Lexus F Sport
Mercedes-AMG
Mugen
Nismo
Ralliart
Renaultsport
Shelby
Subaru Tecnica International
Toyota Racing Development

Factory rice is best rice.

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AMG

Where are your torks bmw?

>>16037552
bmw has enough torks because they aren`t so overweight as benzes

>>16037557
That's the reason for the beemers lack of equipment?

>>16037557
but they are

>>16037568
the new 7 and 5 are better equipped than the S and E class.

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>>16037635
You forgot the 4series
Pic related

>>16037643
lol there is nothing wrong with that weld you autistic tard. Look at where the tubes are welded together, it is perfect.

>>16037646
It's uneven dogshit
>"perfect"
Whoever welded it clearly didn't give a shit
And over 100k?
Yikes

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muh SOUL and PASSION

>>16037658
>2016
>humans welding

I like F Sport better than both

Despite being a lot slower, its more comfy, and luxury performance models should still be comfy under the performance.

And I think Lexus' looks better

>>16037664
Tbh senpai my dream car is an 8C competizione

I'd also like to try driving a 4c someday

>>16037667
>2016
>people don't care about quality anymore

>>16033588
I still can't believe they put a N54 in the 1M, you'd think they would learn from their mistakes... Or maybe they have