Yurop has finally seen the light. Daily reminder that there is

Link: http://www.motortrend.com/news/report-automakers-in-europe-will-return-to-bigger-engines/

Is it happening? Has yurop's un-cuckening begun?

>>16006898
Is there a direct relationship between HP and CCs? To me, it seems that there are so many other ways to increase HP without increasing engine volume.

Sorry for newfag questions.

>>16006919
The larger the displacement, the more potential power an engine can make. As you said however, displacement is far from the only factor when it comes to power.

>>16006919
In terms of mass production ready engines the easiest way to make power is to burn more gas

Inb4 some fag cries about forced induction or snake oil memes

>>16006995
Forced induction is burning more gas.

>>16007002
Yeah but that's more bullshit to add when all you really had to do was install shorter conrods

>>16007012
Shorter conrods mean less compression though.

>>16006936
The larger the displacement, the more power N/A it has while maintaining reliability and stupid emissions standards.

>>16007024
So shave the heads mang, I means it's not like your engine will grenade from low compression

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>572

I'm uncomfortably aroused right now.

>>16007050

Lower compression means less power without forced induction. If you dislike forced induction so much, why aren't you advocating more compression?

>>16007078
I don't consider 9:1 low compression

>>16007087

9:1 is stock. It's low enough for like 13 lbs of boost. 10.5:1 is bare minimum if you're going n\a.

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>>16007072
Put on a condom because you're about to jizz in your pants.
http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/the-gallerry/Twin-Turbo-Big-Block-Chevy.html

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>>16007072

How does it make you feel that it can be bored over to 600

>>16007104

FINALLY! SOMEONE PUT SYMMETRICAL FUCKING TURBOS ON AN ENGINE! See? How fucking hard was that?

That pic is the first time in my life I've seen a turbo set up and not thought "nice, but I'd rather supercharge it."

>>16007099
Yes well that's besides the point that ita easier to just build an engine with a bigger bore than to plumb a turbo in a cramped engine bay

>>16007104

Looks like those two steel lines are running into the back of the block. What are those for?

>>16007131
Pressure reference for the wastegates and blow off valves, right?

>>16007149
Yeah, looks like they go into the intake manifold so they're probably for controlling the wastegate.

>>16007012
Stroking doesn't increase the potential of the engine, it's limited by the breathability of the head

>>16007182
This is correct. If your heads don't flow well enough to fill a bigger cylinder properly, stroking, boring out or making your engine rev higher is useless.

>>16007031
The larger the engine is, the higher the tax is.
If I can get a 2.3 liter to produce 310HP and 500Nm because of a turbo and pay $300 a year for it I'd pick that over a 5.3 liter that produce 330HP/520Nm that cost me $830 a year.
Look at prices on big engine cars in Norway.
Then look at the fuel price.

Then you realize that a person driving what you would consider a shitbox is actually driving a car that cost way more than your wuee-ate

>>16007596
Then move to a non-cucked country. Simple.

>>16006936
NO DISPLACEMENT FOR REPLACEMENT

>>16007634
Maybe no?
I rather live in a country that always tops in charts where they have:
Education
Living standards
Internet Speed
Actually have paid vacation for more than 25 days
Life insurance
Free hospitals
Works places that doesn't treat me like a slave like in USA.

>>16007650
That's your choice then, isn't it?

>>16007658
Well fucking duh...
Did you manage to think that by yourself?

>>16007665
Then don't complain about laws and taxes. You chose to live there.

>>16007670
Then don't act like a retard about other countries engine sizes.
We don't need 999 liter V8 engine producing 100HP with 0.0000000MPG so we can drive for 3 hours to our work on a long straight with 40MPH speed limits with police that thrust their shotguns up your ass if you don't pay them bail for existing on the road.

>>16007681
>We don't need 999 liter V8 engine
No, but we're free to buy them if we want.
"You don't NEED" is cuckspeak.

>>16007687
You're awfully dependent on the word cuck.
Is it something you're unable to separate from?
Is it such a big part of your life that you always are burdened with cucks?
Have you tried removing the big phallic object from your mouth once in a while?

>>16007596
Displacement based tax belongs in a period where displacement governed power. Because efficiency and power are not dependent on displacement anymore there is cross-competition between engine sizes that both brought the latest technology to v8s and also our small engines out of the dark ages.

>big socialist all inclusive scheme that seems promising to citizens but really just drains the personal wealth to line the pockets of the schemers
>government owns every school
>that you pay for after graduating and no choice
>government internet
>great internet for all 5 million
>to London
>Life Insurance
>Now the government is taxing my life

>>16006916
Never. The cuck ratchet only goes one way.

>>16007708
Example:

WOT on a 2 liter engine in a 2016 model
vs
WOT on a 6 liter engine in a 2016 model

Which do you think consumes the most fuel and also spits out the most shit into the air through the exhausts.

Exactly, now go read a book on what the rest of the world has been doing for over 20 years when it comes to the restoration of the global environment.
And no, it's not the same shelf as the 4th fuckmendment or the bible corner.

>>16007728
Well the 2 liter version in my model is a turbocharged high revving engine

The 6 liter is a dohc v12 mercedes

They make exactly the same power, v12 uses less fuel and lasts longer. Checkmate, also half your asses were nazis during the great wars.

I don't read books, I write them.

>>16007687
Well Im not free to buy a Skyline and embarrass retarded V8s.

So fuck that.

>>16007748
Damn, both your cars are shitting out strawman fumes left and right.

You might need to check on that 2 liter car you claim you have, it's running rich.

>>16007728
>size = power
>false

>fuel = power
>true

>size = fuel
>false

>size = emissions
>false

>fuel = emissions
>true

Tuning and aspiration method are everything. That's how the japs survived their oil crisis. Not by being cucks like you nords.

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>>16006919
>>16006919

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displacelets defending displacement tax

>>16007756
It has to since it's way easier to make power efficiently with low revving higher displacement engines. However even a mustang is dohc vtec nowadays so there is no reason to have a under 2 liter unless you're a nordic cuck.

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>>16007775
>the greatest Germany has to offer got BTFO by a fucking truck engine on 4 retardedly massive tires with a dining table strapped to the back
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>16007780
Again, you seems way too interested in cucks.

You might like these boards more:
>>>/hm/
>>>/y/
>>>/mlp/
>>>/lgbt/

>>16007801
Nice reply cuck

>>16007104
I came.

>>16007131
>>16007149
is there an oil line too? i can't tell on my shitty phone

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>>16006901

Literally every upsized engine mentioned in that article is still <2.0L.

>>16007833
seems like it. i stopped myself from pointing out there are no oil return lines after realizing the entire intake post-turbine is also missing.

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>>16006901
>Automakers are starting to rely more on electric vehicles and hybrids to meet stricter emissions goals.

Come to Daddy.

>>16007194
Even so, just stroking an engine won't increase the power just by itself, as the rev limit will be correspondingly lowered.
The torque curve will be shifted lower in the rpm range though, and it can spool a turbo quicker

>>16007681
> doesn't know that 0.00000 is equivalent to 0
> european education

>>16007934
Typed so United Retards of America understands it.

Everyone not retarded knows that metric system>imperial system

Does this mean Michael Jet can swap his 1.3 litre diesel punto for a 1.5?

>>16007944
> n-no that mistake wasn't my fault, it was so you could understand!

>>16008027
You know I'm right, why are you pretending to be retarded?

>>16006919
the limit is physics. a stroke can only be so long before it puts unneccesary strain on the engine. you see lots of boomers touting their 572, 632 etc engines but they wouldn't last any real duty unless they were purpose built drag cars that were rebuilt every season.

anything longer than a 4.00 inch stroke is better suited to hauling cattle than providing reliable performance. in 1970 the Corvette was only offered the L88 427 while the chevelle got the LS6 454 for precisely this reason. The 4.00 inch strokeof the 454 put too much wear on the cylinder walls and couldn't rev as high. RPMS make power, displacement is nice but stroke limits it.

>>16006901
>Renault is going to scrap its 0.9-liter H4Bt gasoline engine, Renault apparently wants to replace it with a new, larger unit.
But... but that's the only engine that fits in current rwd twingo

>>16008553
>RR twingo with beefier engine
sounds good to me famalam

>>16008593
4 cylinder won't fit.
3 cyl bigger than 1.0 doesn't sound like good idea

>>16008553

Honestly, the only interesting post in the thread.

What now? If the twingo gets something with around 140-150hp it would be perfect for my gf.

>>16008620
I am buying 2014 twingo tarbo in 2-3 years if it won't appear to be a lemon.

>>16008210
https://youtu.be/ckoYyY28QNY?t=330

Can't hear you over this dyno pull putting out 1400lbs of torque at fucking 3600rpm.


>dynos so hard the cabinet doors open

>>16008210
>500 ft pounds at 2500rpm all the way to redline
>weighs under 400lbs
>474 cubes
>700HP naturally aspirated

Have fun with your 36lbs of boost that only kicks in over 6 grand on some piddly 2.3l


https://youtu.be/ypL7ZchHPcQ?t=136

>>16006919
>friendly reminder that both are meaningless by themselves and power-to-weight ration is the only important element, followed closely by torque

>>16008210
>9.4 LITER revving to 6500
>1900hp on 22lbs and can take more
>full aluminum block

https://youtu.be/cpDSvdLRODo?t=635

>>16008210
>632 cubic inch big block
>nearing 7 grand

https://youtu.be/HA6am0rCwAk?t=493

>>16006898
>vehicules are taxed and insured according to the size of the engine
>"I know, let's make engines bigger!"
How can you guys fall for that obvious a plan.
They are making cars more expensive for everybody in hopes we will get rid of them or switch to EVs because ICE and hybrids will become too costly for the common man.
In the meantime, safety regulation are here to make sure we never get things like kei-cars or three-wheelers that would make it possible to get arround the issue and create a new class of affordable transportation.
You guys are retarded, literally.

>>16008210
> you see lots of boomers touting their 572, 632 etc engines but they wouldn't last any real duty unless they were purpose built drag cars that were rebuilt every season.

I take it you've never been around boats or a marina. Big block boats run at full power all day without any issues.

>>16008902

>mfw sucking the oxygen out of the dyno room

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>>16008620
>>16008658
>buying anything other than the original Meme Car

>>16007116
Twin turbos were a 90s meme because the shit-ass units meant it was more efficient to run two smaller ones (and often easier to fit them in a cramped bay) because single big turbos made shitloads of heat.

These days any twin setup is beaten by a fat single, assuming they're both equivalent in development.

Plus, symmetrical twins means you get to enjoy a fucking reverse rotation turbo. Enjoy your nopartz.

>>16008210
wow this post caused a lot of buttmad
>>16008888
>ration
what a waste of digits

>>16008998

Jokes and memes aside, its fucking great.

Rwd, sits four adults, its really small so its light... It only needs some renaultsport magic (switchable esp, decent suspension/brakes, 20-30hp on top of gt spec).

>>16009011
I'll point you towards

>>16008894
>>16008902
>>16008872

But, what the fuck would they know.

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>>16009389
It may be great but I still think the original is better. It's not as cramped while being only a bit wider. The only thing that the new one has that's better than the original is the fact that it's RR of course, which allows for an insanely small steering radius but takes away from the trunk space (which the original has plenty if there's no one sitting in the back)

>>16008607
Because you know better than renaults engineers t fuckwit?

>>16007104

Called the BBC for a reason

>>16008980
Marine engines headers are specialty and are rarely coupled to a gearbox, so the same rules don't really apply.

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>>16008998
>>16009529
I already have an orginal meme car. It'll turn 20 next year. Let's be realistic. It will die someday. I, on the other side gonna make some kiddos, and gonna need new DD. I wish I'll have more money then to keep my old twongi and give it good care or even restore it.
>>16009592
I read about it somewhere you fuckwit. Also I happen to know that engine is slanted while surrounded by C-shaped De-Dion Axle, which limits width to acomodate. I wish renault engineers would prove me wrong but this probably won't happen you fuckwit.
Also article says nothing about 1.0liter NA version of this engine. So there's an option that ther'll be only 1.0 NA 70hp which would be sad or they'll develop ~1.0 turbo to replace current 0.9 tarbo which would be nice.
Also you're a fuckwit.

>>16006898
This so called "rightsizing" trend is nothing short of an abomination. It's for emissions, not power - you increase the displacement while keeping the power output the same, as such reduce combustion temperatures = lower NOx. These things will be gutless.

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>>16007650
i live in the USA

i got top notch education
im livin good
got good internet
i get paid vacation
i have life insurance plus medical and dental plus retirement
i can go to any hospital with my medical insurance thats provided by my employer
they do treat me like a slave doe not gonna lie senpai.

>>16007681
Speak for yourself. I fucking need a V8, because it sounds goddamn delicious and makes my dick tingle just right. I don't need to go fast, but I like it to sound good and go smooth.

>>16007764
That's the most gangsta shit you ever saw.
>tfw it's always real nigga hours when you a real nigga

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>>16007681
>butthurt yuropoor making arguments with exagerated numbers
the only people out here who complain about the mpg are poorfags.

>>16009841
True.
But a simple tune and some rip-and-tear modifications will give you a huge powerboost.

Who the fuck cares?
The VW Polos and Peugeot 108s will get 4cyl engines instead of 3cyls while normal people will just keep on buying Mercs, Audis and BMWs with 3 liter V6s.

>>16009926
Yeah im loving my bmw v6

>>16006919
There's a direct correlation between displacement and torque. Horsepower are basically just rev-happines.

>>16007764
Top G

>>16010001
You're already cucked, friend. This used to be a V8.

>>16008210
OK... But this 1005 cubic inch motor is still the best thing ever.

http://www.sonnysracingengines.com/engines/sar-1005-2100-hp

2000HP naturally aspirated

>>16010001
I6, V6, who cares, you little attention whore.

>>16006898
you think european people dont buy big engines cause they dont want to? We dont buy them cause theres taxes attached to bigger engines you absolute retard, in my country for example If I buy a porsche with a 3L engine, ill be paying 2k euros a year in tax only just to drive the car, 2K EUROS IN TAX ONLY, literally renting a car. So shut the fuck up you american cuck.

>>16007104
I saw these guys on youtube, they seem to build sturdy as fuck engines. The guy even said he can make a 1200hp car and have it as his daily driver, dunno how true that is doe.

>>16010559
>2k a year

That sounds ridiculous. Where do they have this policy?

>>16010608
ireland

>>16010631
>Ireland
I know that pain. Everyone here drives a sub 2 liter diesel. A fucking mazda mx5 is considered a ''high risk sports car'' by insurance companies. It's a joke, man.

>>16010770
Its literally a joke, owning a car in Ireland is such a fucking pain unless you get a 1L shitbox, Getting a license is a pain (retarded laws), insurance is down right fucking stealing money from you for trying to drive a car and WOW you better not even think about getting a car over 2L cause lul you must be rich bro? you can afford a 1200 euro BMW with a 2L engine? shieet bro heres some rich people taxes, 1k a year congratz.