Where did it all go wrong?

nothing. its objectively the best rotary to daily drive.

>>16000485
why are these so fucking cheap, i can get one for like 1k euro or some shit. The first time i saw one 2nd hand, it had 290 hp and the guy was selling it for 2k i was like Whatt he fuck how have i not heard of these before.

>>16000506
engines need rebuilding most likely and no they dont make 290hp more like 190 lmao

>>16000485
Renesis.

I wonder how fun these would be with a K20 swap.

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>>16000530
an engine with less power that doesnt rev as well...

>>16000508
Dont post like all of them make 190, I'm looking at them in my area right now and they range from 190 , 250 and even more. The guy that said it made 290 probably had things done

no where it'sall going to plan now

cheap rwd cars with cheap engines

>>16000485
They're shit with shit MPG because of the rotary

>>16000485
should i buy one of these for summer car? i have a dd and these are so cheap.

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>RX-8 for 8500 CAD
>owned by Mazda mechanic
>only 10000km on engine
>fitted with Black Halo spark plugs
>pristine condition

Should I have went for it?

>>16000654
dunno about canadiancuck dollahs but it seems expensive to me

>>16000485

6 MPS / Mazdaspeed 6 was just as fast with four proper doors and prototype Ecoboost.
People were expecting a FD successor.
Apex seal FUD

How is it for a first car?

>>16000678
do you know how to change oil regularly and treat a car properly (not redline while engine cold)? yes its a decent first car

>>16000678
Bad unless you have the time and knowledge of maintaining the engine.
I did, and I loved mine.

>>16000687
>(not redline while engine cold)?
This advice is misleading.
Don't redline when it's cold, but ALWAYS redline when it's not.

Also a rotary's mpg doesnt care if you redline or not, it'll be about the same whether your romping it or not

>>16000654
Ehhhh, that's a bit steep but not unreasonable. I've seen similar examples in my area for a little bit lower but not too much lower.

I bought my 05 for $1000 with a blown motor.
$1500 for an entire drivetrain from an 01 camaro. is a ls1 with 243 heads and a small cam and a rebuilt 4l60e and full wiring harness.

I have about $1000 in the other odds and ends right now, kmember, wiring shit, etc. Probably another $500 in nickel/dime crap and it'll be together by spring. $4000-6000 basically I expect and it'll be a nice unique car that handles good and makes good power to have fun with.

Imo rx8 is a great car with a motor made to blow up so we can buy them cheap and put better stuff in.

>>16000725
really dude? a fucking rx8 is the car you chose for an ls swap?

anyway how long did it take you to swap and did you do it yourself? how much hp is the LS making?

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>>16000736
Why would you not LS swap every car...

>>16000736
>really dude? a fucking rx8 is the car you chose for an ls swap?
Is making a car objectively better a bad thing?

>>16000749
>>16000747
its not a good looking car, it doesnt have that much aftermarket and plus do people even make kits for an rx8?

>>16000485
Didn't really go wrong. They're pretty cheap and sexy as fuck, compared to cars like the BRZ.

As long as you aren't retarded, the special snowflake engine isn't hard to care for.

>>16000753
It's a good chassis, has 4 doors and 4 seats, and it has an engine that's guaranteed to blow. Perfect candidate for an LS swap if you ask me.

>>16000736
I think they look good. I love that they're roomy for a "sports car". They have great suspension options.

I'm finishing the swap over this winter. The car I got the swap out of made 422whp. I'm leaving it this way. I'm running the 4l60e until it grenades or I come across a great deal on a t56. It will eventually get the t56 but for all I got for $1500 it was cheap to just use this whole drivetrain since its a built 4l60e with a 4000 stall already.

Otherwise over this summer I've been converting the harness, running wiring for my custom gauges. At the moment I'm finishing up my 8.8" rear. Driveshaft should be finished next week.

I've been working on it off and on since I got the car in Spring.
I've been busy with work and buying my house that it has been a second priority otherwise it could of been done in a month or two. Now that i have my own garage to work in Im sure i'll have the car done and going in December/January.

>>16000840
Nice, GL. I was looking for an LS project myself but im in the UK so its harder to come across cheap LS engines, was thinking of swapping it into an older bmw or some shit.

>>16000485
Engine belonged in a <2700lb car and didn't have much tuning potential to fix that.
Same story as the FR-S. They have a similar power:weight ratio. At least the FR-S engine will take boost even if the rest of the car won't.

>>16000506
Because the pre-2006 ones had major reliability problems which made their value drop like a rock even though the 2006+ ones are fine and great cars.

>>16001899
word, those gimmicky rear doors like the saturn sc2 or whatever probably added a lot of weight

>>16000622
You could DD it if you get a 2006+ one, as long as you don't mind the poor gas mileage.

The RX-8s are not unreliable like FDs. "Unreliable" isn't the right word for them. You can rely on the FD for 75k miles per engine rebuild perfectly fine. Even more with mods that improve the engine's lifetime.
With the RX-8, at least if it's a 2006+ model and it got the scheduled oil changes, you can rely on it being perfectly fine for 150k-200k+ miles.

Unreliable means something else.

>>16000654
Yes.

>>16000667
Mazdaspeed6 didn't handle as well and it's turning circle was fucking awful. But otherwise, nice car.

>>16000506
Everyone is trying to get them off their hands. I wish craiglist-like sites in my country had a "filter specific model" search option.

>>16000485
Somewhere between the initial oil injection system calibration and the cat.

>>16001899
The FRS actually IS a 2600-2700lb car though.

The RX-8 isn't. Closer to 2900-3100lbs.

>>16002615
But the FR-S has 205hp, not 232-250 like the RX-8.
>They have a similar power:weight ratio
>similar power:weight ratio
>power:weight

>>16000506
>>16000551
I doubt it's making 290hp without a turbo unless it's a reasonably serious peripheral ported race motor.

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>>16000485
>Where did it all go wrong?

-Dorito engine
-Early-2000s styling
-No turbo'd high-performance variant
-Never featured in Initial D or FATF

The only things cool about it was that it was fairly lightweight and the suicide doors were kind of cool.

>>16002755
Dont be a retard it was in Tokyo Drift


Also it has amazing handling, albeit on the heavier side.

But its major drawback is that it had effectively the best and worst rotary.
Best because it made amazing power for what it was, and incredibly effecient for being a 2 rotor. No previous rotary could match its power per displacement. It had a much better flow and cycle due to cleverly designed intake and exauhst ports.

But it was also unreliable, believe it or not previous rotaries were a lot more reliable than people give them credit for. This car is the reason rotary memes exist and well are true.(80k rebuilds)

>>16002795
Rx8 is the most reliable rotary apart from old na 12as and 13bs
It will go over 200k with nothing but oil and spark plug changes. The fd is lucky to get past 80k with equal level of maintenance

>>16002801
If you leave it stock then for sure.

But theres a that can be done to make it last longer. Not sure 200k though

>>16002755

It still looks pretty modern, unlike some other early-00s cars. Wont really look that out of place next to a Toyobaru, just lacks some of the edgyness.

>>16000530
>>16000540
I'd consider the 2.3 DISI Turbo from the Mazdaspeed instead. Keeping it in the family, Mazda has actually used it in some prototypes contemporary to the RX-8. Also, new Mustang and Focus RS has proven that the 2.3 can take upwards of 300hp reliably.

>>16000667
I really think Mazda should put the MPS in the RX-8 (call it MX-8?),instead of a mildly gimped rotary that wouldn't live up the FD hype.

>>16000695
MPG doesn't matter in the RX-8 because it's always fucking bad. I'd consider an LPG conversion.

>>16000725
>RX-8
>4 speed auto tragic
>Not even the superior 4L80
Should've used a T56 instead.

>>16000736
I'd rather LS swap an RX-8 than any other type of RX.

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>>16002795
>Dont be a retard it was in Tokyo Drift

Literally a single-scene vehicular extra used by a supporting character played by a burner actor. The busted old Monte Carlo from the beginning of the movie got more screen time. Shit, the Eclipse from 2F2F was more iconic.

>>16002801
An FD will get to 125k easily if you premix, or do some reliability mods including water/alch injection.
Still not nearly as good as what an RX-8 gets with just changing oil and spark plugs as adviced to, though.

>>16001932

>Turning circle is awful

You're telling me, try reverse parking the thing

I was considering this as my first car , but a 80-90k km one costs around 4-5k here. And here the average salary is 500 euros a month. Looks like it would be a bad idea. Is a 5th gen prelude a better purchase?

>>16000498
>>16000485
My only issue with mine is that it is a four seater. It makes no sense and just adds weight as they compensate for the extra 4 inches of leg room.

>>16000654
The mazda dealership here has burned up my clutch, miss-diagnosed broken control arms, completely failed to trouble shoot bad coils, and couldn't tell that my cat had loose parts inside needing replacement when the car went RATTLE RATTLE RATTLE.

Also, Black Halo doesn't make spark plugs, they make coils. They are easily the bust mod for the car without doing serious work. That alone I would have probably bought the car.

>>16005345
>It makes no sense
taxes
insurance

>1.3L 4-door sedan

Would the insurance costs offset the fuel costs?

>>16005396
Yes. And more so in places that tax displacement.

>>16000485
Those PZ models look amazing desu senpai

4 doors, a bit too heavy, not easily turbo'd

>>16005396
In US yes, in Europe probably not. Gas there is expensive.

>>16000485
They should make one with the 2.3 MZR

>>16000687
The ECU wont even let you reline if its fucking cold

>>16006505
Rofl the 2.3 MZR is less reliable than the Renesis.

The 2nd gen Renesis will last 200k+ miles with just regular oil changes and spark plug changes.

The 2.3MZR and transmission have so many fucking issues.

>>16002882
pretty sure there was another in the parking garage

your point still stands