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on my commute home, driving down a deserted mainstreet at 10pm.
calling my uncle, going 25 mph, the speed limit.
...get pulled over?
get a ticket for operating a mobile phone while driving and here's the kicker...
they want me to appear in court?!?!?!
for talking on a cell phone while driving...really? talking? shit i could have been eating an apple and had the same amount of hands on the wheel and not been pulled over, wtf why is this even a law?

so here's the question... since the ticket says i NEED to appear in court (total bs) i was thinking of pleading innocent or something. So does anyone know if local yokel cops in suburban new jersey wear body cameras or record the audio of conversations when you get pulled over? should i fight this thing or what?

anyone been in a similar situation?
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>>15985377
90% sure BS, but if not:

You deserve it faggot. I'll sit here and laugh while you get fucked in court. I hope they revoke your licence..
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>>15985377
>Putting yourself and others at risk by talking on the phone
>You can't just tell your uncle to fucking wait

>>15985407
This
Plead innocent so they can fuck you harder
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>>15985407
i mean it's real, and im not getting fucked in court, fined probably. But the point is i have to now take time out of my life to waste a judges time with this shit? it's completely asinine
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>>15985415
>Putting yourself and others at risk
10pm. deserted road. 25 mph.
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>>15985415
literally not a distraction at all, seriously, like eating an apple. what's more distracting is that all of a sudden you hear a whooping siren and flashing lights. THAT SHIT causes accidents, scared the tits off me.
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>>15985423
Not exactly deserted if there was a cop there. You broke the law and now you are being punished. Welcome to the real world.
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>>15985417

Plead innocent. Say it's not a big deal and you do it all the time.

>>15985436

And it should when you're doing something stupid like that. Last time I was pulled over it didn't scare me at all. I knew I did nothing wrong, and proved it. Cop left feeling stupid and defeated.


You're driving a 3000lb+ death machine. Take it seriously and pay attention to the road, not your phone.
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If you're going to talk on your phone, get a stupid $20 bluetooth so you don't have to worry about tickets.
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>>15985441
it shouldn't be a law.
texting i can understand, it takes your eyes off the road.
why the fuck cant i just pay a fine though.

and honestly, i can't believe you fuckers don't agree with me. you've probably been pulled over for speeding or some such other thing. nobodies driving record is 100% flawless since they were 18 or whenever you got your licence.
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>>15985461
Well it is a law and you broke it. If you came here because you wanted people to agree with you then just delete this thread, leave, and never come back.
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>>15985461
we don't like faggots who use their phones, you're what causes half of all crashes. speeding with the radio off and paying attention to the road on the other hand is fine as fuck
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>>15985377
Go in and say you were talking on your phone and you apologize. They listen to retards saying they din do nuthin all day. They are more likely to let you off if you don't act like they are stupid. At least look for a valid loophole if you are going to challenge it.
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>>15985461
its been a law in Jersey for over 10 years so quit your whining and get a fucking bluetooth if you actually have to talk to your uncle that bad.

it is distracting, pay attention to the road, not your gay uncle!!
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>>15985461
speeding isn't necessarily unsafe though.
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>>15985451
im really not seeing why it's stupid.
i think they proved it wasn't dangerous on top gear once.
i was paying attention to the road, i was driving perfectly well.
the ONLY reason i got pulled over was because of the cell phone, this guy literally crept up behind me and LOOKED for something wrong. quotas man, he was looking to fill his ticket quota

besides, i usually never do it, seriously /o/ it's fucking bullshit and i just want to know if/how my conversations with a police officer get recorded
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>>15985377
Yes you HAVE to appear in court or they will issue a warrant for your arrest. Then you can't please not guilty (depends on state but most). GO TO COURT. You will probably talk to the DA (or assistant) before talking to the judge. GENERALLY they will give you a plea deal. I.E. say your guilty, you'll get deferred adjudication, if you don't get a ticket in the next 6 months we take it off your record. Pay the court fee. DRESS RESPECTABLE. BE RESPECTFUL. Court is not the place to be a dick, the judge has more power than you think. ALWAYS fight a ticket, and ALWAYS ask for some type of deal. Sometimes it's probation. Sometimes its a few hours of community service. Sometimes it's a fine and go on your way. If it seems complicated AFTER talking to the DA, plead not guilty and request a later date when it's your turn. AND THEN GET A LAWYER.
First offence is usually some deal of just paying the court and not getting a ticket for a few months.
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>>15985469
>speeding with the radio off and paying attention to the road on the other hand is fine as fuck

fuck no it's not, go the limit, speeding shit is actually dangerous.
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>>15985377
law says both hands on the wheel at the same time. Stop crying and follow the law or go to court. And YES talking on a phone IS a distraction, period. Also both hands are not on the wheel. Get a blue tooth or STFU.
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>>15985481
>they "proved" it wasn't dangerous in a 2 minute segments on a race track with no traffic, kids, run offs, construction workers etc.
>they also drove like shit in that segment
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>>15985475
>pay attention to the road
the fuck is your deal? why would you assume im not paying attention to the road?
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>>15985377
OP stop sucking cocks and tell us what State you live in

that can help us answer your question without assuming shit
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I think they proved it wasn't dangerous on top gear once
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>>15985476
see this seems retarded to me>>15985508
jersey
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>>15985507
Because you are using you're phone. Please leave seriously
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>>15985481
>this guy literally crept up behind me and LOOKED for something wrong
Of fucking course that's what he was doing - it's their fucking job to look for shit like this. And for good reason.
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>>15985513
now post the exact law that's listed on the ticket

ideally just post a picture of the ticket with all your info blocked out

It sounds very strange that you -have- to go to court for a traffic ticket. Usually when you sign it it's just a promise to take care of it (ie: pay, court, etc) but no mandatory appearances
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>>15985513
Listen nigger know one fucking cares what you think about it. Go to court and pay the fine and just fuck off
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>>15985517
>you're
your is possessive and YOU'RE a faggot's gaping asshole if you think that talking into a phone at 25mph in the middle of the night with no other cars is distracted driving.
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>>15985523
39:4-97.3 -- USE OF HANDHELD WIRELESS TELEPHONES
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>>15985538
Then go to court and tell them that, easy way out of paying a fine
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>>15985538
I mean it does though that's why it's illegal. Seriously dude fuck off
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>>15985523
>>15985544
which linguistically blows testes because it sounds like it's lumped in with texting, which is a whole nuther animal
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>>15985377
Most states have it on the books that minors have to appear in court for traffic violations.

Reported for being less than 18.
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>>15985557
I mean it was pretty obvious.
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>>15985544

basically here's what's happening


39:4-97.3 d person who violates this section shall be fined as follows:

(1) for a first offense, not less than $200 or more than $400 plus court costs and possible court appearance;

I can't find any info on what determines whether or not you get told to have a court appearance, but based on how you've acted I'd say it's the cop's discretion and he just decided you're a huge asshole so fuck you have court.
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>>15985557
This.
>>15985562
Does /o/ even get the obvious?
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>>15985563
He's probably a minor. See >>15985557
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>>15985566
Hell no, this board is so easy to bait and this thread is proof.
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>>15985575
>I was only pretending to be retarded
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>>15985575
easy to bait? no, we're not.
>take the b8 m8
lol
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>>15985557
ah im in my late 20's, no such luck
but do most conversations you have with police who pull you over get voice recorded? i mean i noticed him writing notes, but if there's an audio recording im just going to pay off the fine...
honestly i'll probably pay the fine off anyway, i mean i have better fucking things to do than waste mine or a judges time in court, but i was wondering how easy it is to wriggle out of it and save a few bucks.
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>>15985377
>They /want/ me to
???
Do they /require/ you to appear in court?
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>>15985563
>he just decided you're a huge asshole so fuck you have court.
yeah sounds about right, i was acting way to casual/phony with him
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>>15985583
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Given that every cell phone in the last 16 years turns off the screen when talking on it (sensor at top of screen), and it was 10pm at night on a deserted road...going to call bullshit since there is no way he could've seen you on the phone
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>>15985377
>complaining about getting done for being on the phone while driving

You deserve everything you get.
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>>15985583
>>15985587
No, cops only do that if you really piss them off. They have to show up with you, you know. You've been outed.
sage
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>>15985481
Police where I live will talk on the phone while driving. It's not that difficult.
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>>15985563
>first offense, not less than $200 or more than $400 plus court costs
holy balls, that's insanely excessive :^( thanks for the info tho
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>>15985595
let's hope that reciprocal ethos applies with everything in everyone's life
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>>15985583
>>15985602

even though you seem like a huge prick, I'm gonna give you the answer

when you go to court, look to see if the officer is there

if he is, just pay your fucking ticket
if he isn't, you can fight it because your accuser/witness is not present to testify that you committed the traffic violation

but that boils down to if the officer thought you were a huge asshole so when he gets the subpoena for your case he'll remember "oh yea that fuckhead, of course I'm gonna show up to court that day"
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>>15985596
really? hmm, ok, well he said i could have the court appearance date pushed back to when it was convenient
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Ever since I started a new job 8 months ago and have to commute 50 miles each way, I'd estimate I've driven about 150 miles with my phone on and in my hand.
Such is life when Pandora plays some Nigger shit, or I'm trying to diagnose something with torque.
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>>15985614
thanks, that's the answer i was looking for. i appreciate the help. i'll leave for now, but im actually a nice guy if you get to know me.
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>>15985628
case. point. game. blouses.
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>>15985599
>It's not that difficult
it's downright safe
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>>15985614
you realize the judge can set the court date at a later day. You have to plea NOT GUILTY FIRST, then he sets a date that the cop will show up. And they generally show up. If they don't the court will usually reset the date. This "the cop didn't show" is incorrect shit.
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>>15985461
My driving record is spotless, and I'm 30, driving since 16, not counting driving truck/tractor around the farm.
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>>15985593
wait, yeah, that's right, i don't think i had the interior lights on either, wtf why the fuck did he pull me over?
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>>15985664
Fuck off grandpa, no one cares about your hillbilly farm
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>>15985676
If you don't have really dark tinted windows then he could definitely see you if he was perpendicular to you with his headlights on. If the street lights are bright enough it's possible too. It's a fairly distinct body position. You don't really need much detail to see.
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>>15985699
say that to my face not online see what happens
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>>15985649
Shut up dummy. Let the shithead OP fuck himself.
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>>15985743
y-you too
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>>15985377
Plead innocent and there's a 50% chance he won't show up on the court date and you win, if he does though you're fuked m8, doesn't matter if he has a body cam or not, his word against yours and his has a badge behind it.
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>>15985377
>So does anyone know if local yokel cops in suburban new jersey wear body cameras or record the audio of conversations when you get pulled over?
Please purger yourself in a court of law.
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Why don't you have bluetooth?
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>>15985423

Welcome to millennial logic, where nuance doesn't exist. They're too stupid to grasp that this argument is like asserting there's no difference between driving after one beer or 15.

Within a decade they'll be crying that manually driving a car should be a felony.
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>>15985377

Don't fuck around. If you are serious about an acquittal, and have a job or have money and/or can borrow it, go get an attorney who specializes in traffic law.

Jersey is a nanny-state do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do pain-in-the-ass shithole. Have a look behind the wheel of the average cop car and tell us all about how distractions are such an evil. MDT, cell phone, dashcam, 3 radios, light/siren controls, LoJack receiver, radar, license plate scanners, and 50,000 other fucking gadgets they're fucking around with the entire shift.

But like many nanny laws, the government hands out exceptions/exemptions because "official business". It's all bullshit designed to hand your cash over to the government and bar association (cartel) members.

One way or the other the control freaks are getting your money. Get a bluetooth and then move the fuck out of this place while you're still young.
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>>15985436
Anything that takes your hand off the wheel is a distraction
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>>15985436
>literally not a distraction
It literally is a distraction Cletus learn the definition of words you use. You are taking your eyes off the road and taking a hand off the wheel that is a distraction
>dude but I'm a good driver and my car is automatic
OK kid
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I am not a lawyer, but...

This is a very easy two-step process, OP. Show up to court on your assigned day, and do the following.
1. If cop is there, plead guilty, they'll give you 6mo probation and drop the fine, you'll have to pay court costs, probably like $100-200.
2. If cop is not there, plead not guilty, and just say you didn't do it. You got lucky.

Don't fuck around with the cop or the judge, it will end much worse.
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>>15985377
>get a ticket for operating a mobile phone while driving
Good
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I LOVE it when I read that stupid people doing stupid things gets in trouble for being stupid
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>>15985377
Pay 30 for a lawyer to dismiss the case, how our works is they keep postponing the date on your behalf until the said named officer doesn't show up at wick point they throw it out. Works in texas, California and florida. So give it a shot
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>>15985461
My car has android auto so i don't endanger everyone else when i talk on the phone and drive
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Here's an idea

pair your phone to car's stereo

get a call

press a button

nobody knows you're on the phone
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>>15985473
This.
So hard.
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>>15987039
pretty much this OP. I never put a phone to my ear while driving and my car has built in bluetooth

you could have used speaker phone and put the phone in your cup holder
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>>15985377
>new jersey
i'm so sorry
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>>15985614
Or he can just send someone else from his department to represent him. When I was going to fight my 67 in a 30 I thought I was good bc the exact same cop wasn't there. Nope. Some asshat that comes in and does court cases once a month took his place. But always "fight" your tickets in a hearing or whatever. $105 is better than $480 famalam
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>>15985481
does anyone buy into this kind of advertising? Jesus the 500 is such a shit car I hope men don't buy it because of the woman.

OR I hope woman don't buy it because they think they'll be like her.
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>>15985377

Contest the ticket and hire a lawyer. $250 and they will go to court on your behalf and make this ticket god away.
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>>15985377
> using phone while driving
> cant tell the difference between operating a complex piece of technology and shovelling food in the general direction of your mouth
Kill yourself you cancerous faggot
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i got a ticket for going 10 mph over the limit a few weeks ago. i was in a new car.

can i
just say i wasnt used to how fast my new car accelerates? because honestly i didnt even notice how fast i was going.
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>>15985494
at what arbitrary speed does it become dangerous?
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>>15985475
> talking on a phone is distracting if you're holding the phone
> it's not if it's through bluetooth

i mean, as long as you're not looking at the phone the only problem i can see is that you don't have two hands on the wheel.
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>>15988333
talking on a phone, not looking at the screen

since using cordless devices is legal, we know that the act of talking itself is not distracting in the eyes of the law, so it most be the holding the phone against your ear part.

holding your phone against your ear is not any more distracting than eating food, so either that means eating food is also illegal or the law is hypocritical.
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>>15985497
Then why dont cops stop people with their left arm on the door?
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>drag racing and drifting threads everywhere
>gets mad over someone talking on the phone while driving
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>>15985451
Confirmed for trollin
You don't get out of unjust tickets by making cops feel stupid, you get out of them by playing into their power trip
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>>15990924
>one is fully focusing on their operation of heavy machinery
>the other is not giving the act of driving the unrivaled attention it requires
hmmm, doesn't take that much to figure that one out, Einstein

From (german) legislative text: "Taking part in traffic requires constant attention and mutual regard of the partakers"
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