Looking to buy a project for my little brother and I to work

>>15970926
Totally.
Bugs are a good first project because they're simple.
Takes like 4 bolts, a floor jack and 5 minutes to drop the engine.

Save those blocks, magnesium fires in the dunes will make you cool.

>>15970926
My older brother learned on a 72 super beetle our dad got him, and now he is very mechanically inclined, so yeah, go for it

>tfw never allowed to work on it and now struggle with anything harder than basic maintenance on my car ;_;

>>15970963
>>15970972
awesome to hear. Ive never had a project car and I figured I could learn something from this as well.

Im assuming parts are fairly easy to find since a shit ton of these were made?

>>15971012
Absolutely. Huge support network on forums, well written service books, really the easiest car to work on. He was dropping engines at like 14 years old.

However, if there is bad floor pan and heater channel rust, just know that the car can never be restored to full original condition.
His had to be scrapped because it just wasn't safe to drive from rust in those places.

>>15971063
ok sounds good. Im currently talking with a friend and he's trying to talk me out of getting it. "good luck with finding parts"

Im like dude they made a shit ton of these plus we have something called the internet.

>>15971167
They continued to make them in mexico until like 2003.
Aftermarket support is as good as mustangs or Chevy small blocks.

>>15971375
Thanks. I just called the seller and left a message. Hopefully he gets back to me soon.

>>15970926
def get it famalam

>>15971396
look up Jbugs. Or thesamba. You could build a new one with just a title.

Which years are best for building a fully sikk baja bug? Super beetles are shit right?

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Get this book if you can, it literally tells you everything about volkswagens, its a must have.

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>>15977879
how do you do the porsche fan mod?

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>>15977898
some of them look bad like this one.

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>>15977750

well the best is IRS for obvious reasons. but you want wide 5 too. more wheels in wide 5

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this fan just looks WEIRD
is this a kit? who makes this

>>15977920
also wtf distributor

>>15971396

Reall yhte only things to look out for, unless you have basic welding exp, is rust under the battery, heater channels, any damage to the front or rear apron and the floor pans. Tho, honestly, all of that sheetmetal is readily available, dirt cheap and easy to replace. I'd hoist the body off the pan and start going thru it from front to back. Very rewarding.

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swing axle is lame

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>>15977879
yeah I saw that book recommended when i check out thesamba forum. Will def pick it up

>>15977969
I think for the most part its solid but when I speak to him I'll def ask about all that

What's the easiest way to make a Beetle fast? I figure either turbo or engine swap.

>>15978746
prob swapping a turbo'd boxer engine in it.

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>>15978750

>>15978750
How about a 13B?

>>15978779
i guess thats a thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-aH26wtKIc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28_1NWFtPnE

>>15978769
hng

>>15978897
das it mane

>>15970926
air cooled VW fag here. That's a screaming deal. The engines alone are worth over 1k, and a 1 owner 65 is damn rare. Run over there now with $1500 cash in hand because youre not going to find a better deal than that. If I were selling that I would be asking at least $3k.

>>15977920
thats a 356 twin spark motor. It's worth more than the bug it's in, even if it is immaculately restored. Personally I would never throw a motor that costs tens of thousands of dollars and makes less than 100bhp into a bug when you could build a nasty 400hp turbo efi motor for a lot less, but some people are into that vintage speed stuff.

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>>15981608
awesome to hear. Im going to pick it up tomorrow. Going to be uploading pics from the ad.

>>15981615
I didnt upload that pic mate. It has nothing to do with the car Im looking at

who gives a fuck about the engines, put an LS1 or 2jz in it

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>>15981615
your reports of engines being expensive are only true when rebuilt.
for example this shit one with frozen rings was $120 on my local cl and it took months to sell

>>15970926

Yes, jump on this.

>>15977898
You have a porsche. The other pic you posted is of the Massive Type 4 (Jake Raby shop) conversion fan kit. Its high quality stuff but totally unnecessary.

The factory fan shroud is more than adequate and cooling the engine.

>>15981954
can you simply use a porsche shroud on a type 1
mine has the doghouse

>>15977750
1968 and later.

The IRS rear is a HUGE step up from swing axle in terms of wheel travel, handling and aftermarket availability. The only downside is all the front ends are going to be ball joint. Which isn't that bad. Tons of people think its horrible and want to convert to link pin fronts for "Muh wheel travel" but in reality, with some good lift spindles, leaf spring adjusters and some bilstein 5100's you can have a kick ass 8"-10" wheel travel front end that still feels good on the highway at 60mph.

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>>15981966
thats why i said the best combo is IRS and wide 5
dont be that guy with 4 lugs.
and there isnt a lot of difference in front beams.
adjusters are nice though

>>15981630
>>15981636
>>15981703
>>15981705
>>15981709

Ok, so those look like later model engines.
And by later i mean not 36/40 horse engines. 1300cc and 1600cc engines.

From the looks of it you could assemble a decent engine out of that pile. Given the cases aren't trash.

Look at the case numbers on the bottom near the oil pan, fingers crossed they say AS41 and or AS21 on them. Both of those cases are factory cases that you can use for decent power builds. The AS21 is typically a fuel injection case thats more aluminum than magnesium. They're rare though. The more common case is the AS41, its the general factory upgraded case.

Also take a peek at those distributors, get the numbers off of them. You want to keep the SVDA, single vacuum dual advance distributors. Stay away from the Bosch 009 trash mechanical distributors.

>>15981980
I've had 4 and 5 lug cars, Besides looking better and having a stronger bolt circle, there's no real advantage.

I've done some hard shit with 4 lugs and never broken anything. Hell i had some 4-5 lug adapters once and they never let loose. I however do not suggest that.

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>>15981989
ive never seen anyone post the injection here so i will

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>>15982001
sure but they are all better than swingaxle.

>>15982014
I'm not sure what you're getting at, 4 lug and 5 lug are not suspension specific, you can have a 5 lug swing axle and a 5 lug IRS, and you can have 4 lug IRS and 4 lug swing axle.

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so is there a how to guide on the fan conversion? maybe a FAQ

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>>15982023
i mean IRS is fine with 4 or wide 5
but swingaxle always sucks

>>15982026
Its a waste of your time. They actually cool worse and will kill engines slowly due to hot spots forming in the cylinders.

Plus i doubt you have the money

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the subaru carb conversion looks difficult

>>15982031
In some ways yes, in others no.

In stock form swing axle is considerably stronger than IRS, its also lighter.

So take it as it is.

>>15982037
then why does it work on a 356?

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>>15981966
you will NEVER get 8-10" of wheel travel out of a BJ front end. I have build a class 11 front beam, you are looking at 5 3/4" of wheel travel, 6" if you notch the ball joints for high clearance. This is not to say BJ is garbage offroad, but it's certainly not as good as link pin, which can get about 8" of travel before you get into issues with tierod hitting the trans tunnel and over-twisting the torsion leaves. You can get 9" of travel out of stock arms with panhead clearancing and coilovers but most people are onto longer arms by then. you can take a LP beam and hack it up to fit a BJ panhead and youll actually end up with better caster through the suspension travel. i have a beam set up like this but Its just sitting around because i have a '56 and my '70 is going the route of being a SCORE/SNORE tagged class 11.

pic related is my BJ with bump/droop hook stops. These are set up so that it contacts the hook stops when the BJ is physically maxed out of travel, and it still only pulls 5 3/4" wheel travel.

>>15982053
If youre interested in offroad beetle suspension info you should check out thesamba, shoptalkforums, and class11coalition. class11coalition is where actual racers reside, but its slow as hell and its for class 11 so theres no long travel discussion. but easily a far more knowledgeable base than any other VW forum on the internet since they are all diehard racers, some have been racing for 40 years.

>>15982048
Different engine entirely. They share NO parts whatsoever.

>>15982053
Maybe its been too long but when i was prepping a class 9 with a friend circa 2005 we were able to get a lot more than 5 3/4" from that ball joint front end.

Perhaps we're measuring differently, spindle center droop to spindle center compression right?

>>15982080
really?

>>15977879
Came here to say this. Not only is it a super helpful book in terms of repairing the car, it is a pleasure to read.

>>15977879
this.

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Beetle thread. My 13b-eetle, first start should be tomorrow if I can get all my bull shit done

>>15985364
post more

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inderasting

>>15970926
Jesus christ buy that shit senpai

Did Op drag this thing home yet?

>>15970926
Wow. I would call my brother a faggot if he thought I'd want a old ass beetle.

>>15987252
say that to me face n ill beetle ur fuckin head in ya cunt

>>15987096
>>15987246

Im going to purchase it today and get it towed to my house on sunday IF it doesnt get purchased by one other dude thats getting a look at it right now.

will update this thread when I find out.

>>15987266
Just admit you are a fag, your brother does not want a fucking old ass beetle you faggot

>>15987287
At least ask your brother what he thinks of the fucking car asshole. Show him a pic of it. He won't like it

>>15987312
I just askedy brother, he said the car looks like shit. Thank you for stopping me from making a huge mistake. He even called me a fag

>>15987312
are you implying I havent spoke with him yet?

you think i would just go out and buy something for him without him knowing what it is. sod off.

>>15987305
>>15987312
where do you think you are?

>>15987312
>>15987329
lol what are you doing mate.

>>15987333
Your brother said he wants to drive around in a old beetle? Looks like I was cling the wrong brother a fag

>>15987341
what language are you speaking? why is your english terrible? where are you from?

>>15987353
Canada faggot

Update:

Someone bought it out under me. Fuck.

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Gonna take a look at this

what do you Beetleheads think?

http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/5778603510.html

>>15987789
yeah no shit, we told you earlier this was a steal and a half.

>>15988307
too much, offer him $500 and class 11 it

>>15988523
I was the first person to respond to the ad. unfortunately I didnt have anyone with a trailer to get it

>>15988532
class 11?

>>15988307
buy it

>>15987789
Good, now your brother wont look like a complete fag

>>15990546
kill yourself faggot

>>15988711
Don't actually build a class 11 car, just build up a baja style bug without cutting the sheet metal. You'll enjoy it more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzLOCToftlU

>>15988711
>not just buying it and then leaving it there for a day
>not just getting a u-haul rental

eff u bud

>>15988711
You absolute retard.

>>15990821
No, you should kill yourself. If your brother was given that piece of shit he would start hanging out with miata drivers and joining them in their gay orgies

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>>15987789
fuck you

>>15981726
>2jz in a beetle
>the engine itself is the wheelie bar

absolute insanity

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>>15992568
why dont 911's wheelie?

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>>15992639
if a ls2 can "fit" in a thing it can go in a bug

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>>15992568
when i look at a nasty well built 911 like this, i always wonder why they dont wheelie from a dead stop

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>>15992666

>>15992643
They literally don't fit. They only work in cases where all of the sheet metal is removed. Plus because VW engines don't have engine mounts, you have to custom fab a complete rear subframe/ bumper assembly.

going to check out this bug in a few min >>15988307


owner told me no rust on any fenders.

comes with black interior and glass is perfect

will upload pics.

>>15993105
You are literally trying to make your brother gay. Why?

>>15993105
>posting has expired
So did you buy it or what

>>15992639
Probably because they have a short light flat six instead of a long heavy inline six hanging off the rear.

>>15993170
I'm sure he bought that and some lube for his little brothers ass for when he gets fucked in the ass

>>15971012
>Im assuming parts are fairly easy to find since a shit ton of these were made?
you're assuming correctly

>>15993442
Do they come with lube?

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rusty as shit but i think im going to get it. heading back tomorrow to get a look at the interior and engine

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>>15993782
>>15993805
>rusty as shit
>no floorpans

Got a welder?

>>15993805
the fuck
we Flintstones now

>>15993798
Thats what your brothers asshole is going to look like when he drives the beetle