>tfw

faggot can't heel toe.

>>15961931
>people actually need to heel toe to get up a hill
Jesus Christ i don't roll back and i take my time.
Do you cunts even drive?

>>15961931
or just be fast and accurate fgt

>this is somehow hard
Release the brake as you give it gas and feed the clutch out. I learned it almost instantly.

>>15962069
You will roll like that, learn clutch control breh

Learn how to drive
Or
Use your handbrake until you feel the clutch bite.

>>15961927
>tfw current dd has a 2 second feature that eliminates this
... I feel coddled.

-Hold brake
-Let out clutch until it bites and hold it there
-Let off brake then press gas gas while you let out the clutch fully

Your car has enough power to hold on a hill with the clutch out for a second, right anon?

>>15963012
kek

>he doesn't have hill assist
wew lad

>>15962270
only if your a shit driver

>>15961927
>tfw Hill Start Assist™
Yeah.. I remember my first shitbox too OP

While clutch control requires some skill, handbrake start is foolproof. You can do it as slow as you want and even take of with the brake fully engaged if your motor functions are that limited. It's just a matter of remembering simple sequence and if that is too hard you're too stupid to be driving.

So, what's the problem OP?

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>>15963012

>>15963012
This is what driving in San Francisco is like.

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>>15963012

This is literally why handbrakes were invented, you fucking retard.
>I need to let out the clutch with one foot and throttle with another, but one of my feet is also on the brake!
Gosh, if only there was some way you could use your HAND to BRAKE. If fucking only.

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>>15961927

>>15963175
>tfw most models of your car (like 98%) are automatics, and have a pedal for the parking brake
fugg

The only correct answer here is

>skid it uleh

>>15961927
Jesus christ, it's called a handbrake, you'll find it next to your seat. It's not a fucking secret weapon guys.

>>15963012
still easy

what are you guys, women, children, and the disabled?

>>15963284
they drive autotragic
it's just driving a manuel is hard ,shitposting

>>15963175
>I'm even more retarded than OP
Handbrake is a crutch for retards who have no sense of coordination

>>15963298
>i am racecar
>i am skill
>i am the lightning
>I need no handbrake because i feel superior for not using mine

>>15963335
or maybe because it's a pain in the ass that slows your takeoff and isn't actually necessary

have fun reducing the overall efficiency of traffic

>waiting a bit to go
>not maintaining a short following distance until you're past the light so more people get through

>>15963298
Yeah, it is a crutch. In the same way a crutch is an aid that replicates a foot, a handbrake does as well. Using the tools given to you doesn't make you a retard. Does your car have a turn key or do you still crank the engine?

>>15963264
Can you even drive, it's pretty obvious what to do in that situation and it's even less complicated than a manual hill start.

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>>15963175
Lol, only newfags needs the ebrake

Don't worry anon, keep practicing, one day you will know how to drive correctly

>this simple manoeuvre is part of the driving test in this country
>literally everyone can do it here
>it is not considered an issue for anyone, even the least interested drivers
>/o/ can't do it

>>15963343
I'm not a poorfag, so I can afford an automatic transmission, therefore this situation is something I never have to deal with.

>>15963352

automatic transmission is literally for learning impared people

>>15961927
This is exactly what handbrakes are for. Holds the car in place so you can use your feet for clutch and gas.
Just use a bit more gas than setting off normally.

Last time I had trouble with a hill start was when learning to ride a motorcycle, operating the clutch and gas with hands instead of feet, and with a gearbox that didn't like first gear.
Stalled twice, then took off like a rocket after losing patience with the bullshit.

>>15963012
>not rolling back and bulldozing that faggots bumper with your shitbox

I have no trouble hillstarting but when people jump up my ass I roll it back a few inches just to spook them

I remember the first day I bought my first stick and keep getting really pissed that people wouldn't give me more room`

>>15963343
Try parallel parking in seattle not using the ebrake. No reason to eat up your clutch.

>>15962270
>fucking up your clutchplate

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>living in places with retarted stops on hills

>>15963637
>living on flat hurricane inducing land
lel

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>switch to low hear
>keep holing the clutch pedal for no reason whatsoever

>>15963640
>living near the ocean
>getting tornadoes and hurricanes confused

Wew lad

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>>15963012

good god please don't do this to me

>>15963652
>live on top of the fault line of a tectonic plate
>susceptible to underground hurricanes

I shiggy diggy

>>15963652
>implying it's not the same fucking thing
you're still fucked m8 :^). Meanwhile, i enjoy cozy living in Switzerland

>>15963666
Enjoy all the floods when the ice melts off the mountains

>rocket science
https://youtu.be/H4ad3zW2hBY?t=5s

>>15963337
What the fuck kind of retard driving do you do that you cant take off with the rest of traffic using the hand brake method?

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>slowly release clutch until I feel it trying to roll forwards
>release the brake

Perhaps add a little bit of throttle with the heel if I'm towing or its a very, very steep incline

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oh wow it's fucking nothing after the first week of manual

seriously you meme shits don't even own cars, as anyone who has ever been in one for more than 15 seconds would be able to tell you, if you're not holding down the clutch as pictured and you're in first and come to a stop then you're going to immediately stall. You don't hold clutch down either, you go into neutral and hold the brake until you're done stopping, this is why you're having to replace your clutch every 5 months.

Hilariously on most manual cars they don't label the centre as "N" so you get people who think they HAVE to stay in first when stopped.

Even if you're a complete newfag driving manual you can just cheat with the handbrake until you've got it down. Of course the average poster of this pic leaves a MT car parked with no handbrake and then after it's gone basically just says "I guess it ran away"

>>15962046
This

>>15963163
Accurate

>>15962270
That is clutch control, as you release the brake you also release the clutch to get the car creeping forward.

>>15963175
>not having feet big enough to manage both right pedals at once

>>15963789
Why the fuck would you be in neutral at a stop?

>>15962270
>ruin your clutch for no reason breh
no thanks I'll keep using my brake to keep my car from rolling away just like I use my nose to breath and not my mouth.

>>15963942
So you dont wear out your throw out bearing

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>>15963175
>This is literally why handbrakes were invented, you fucking retard.
Uh, they were invented to keep your car from rolling away when parked actually. You fucking retard.

>he can't operate all three pedals in sequence
>he relies on his handbrake

>let out clutch till it bites
>move right foot from brake to gas
>drive away safely
Nobody outside of America has a problem with this.

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>there are people on this board who actually hold their car on a hill only with the clutch at bite point

And then they wonder why shit breaks all the time

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I hate those faggots who don't let go of the brakes when they feel the clutch is gripping and rather just let go of the brakes, ROLL BACK 5ft, close to fucking jump on your hood and then just roll forwards.

I keep enough distance all the fucking time but it is fucking ridiculous how so many people roll back almost half a car length just because you're too fucking lazy.

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i dont understand this thread

if you stop at hill just put neutral and use hand brake

when light goes green, push clutch, engage first gear, release handbrake gradually as you start to release clutch and pushing throtle

they teach this in driving school, right? at least they do around here

>>15964324
[revving intensifies]

>>15964328
but theres no need for revving if you are using handbrake because it wont fall down the hill

if i use clutch/brake and then quickly shift to clutch/throtle then it revs a bit cuz gotta go fast

>>15963338
Kek

>>15963175
>not pressing brake with your cock
Alteratively - ask your bro to push the brake with his hand, it also sets you up for a quick bj

>>15963175
yeah, i can't figure out if this thread is a joke/meme thread or not. I've only ever used the handbrake when stopping on steep hills like this. I don't know why people would bother heel-toe'ing when the using the handbrake is less effort.

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>tfw manual truck has a pull handbrake, so i can't use it for hill starts

>>15964324
>when light goes green, push clutch, engage first gear, release handbrake gradually as you start to release clutch and pushing throtle
But you should put handbrake on, set clutch and gas to appropriate levels, wait until the amber light (or for the car in front of you to move away), and then drop the handbrake completely in one motion.

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>there are people in this thread right now who think you actually can't use on/off handbrakes for hill starts

>>15963175
Just bring your clutch up enough to keep you in place, then swap your right foot from the brake to the accelerator. Unless you have a really weak first gear, most cars can hold themselves in place on a hill with just the clutch.

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>>15964502
>>15964502
>another clutch burning retard

GODDAMN

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>throw anything physics or manuel related at /o/ and it turns into a clusterfuck of a shit fest
>every time

>>15961927
If you have trouble with hill starts you need to git gud

>>15963347
Yeah i'm attending a driving school now and one of the test for the license is hill start/stop. It doesn't matter if you do it with a handbrake or not. Dad told me that using the handbrake is shamefull though.

>>15963660
SLC?

>>15964800
>enter neutral
>hold brake
>foot on clutch
>put in gear
>mash accelerator
>drop clutch
>????
>wicked burnouts

>>15961927
>THROW IN FIRST
>HIT THE GAS UNTIL *BRAPBRAPBRAP*
>DROP THE CLUTCH

>>15962069
>having three legs

>>15965081
>not using your dick to hold the brake

>>15961927
>"hill starts are scary, anon"
>"oh haha, that just looks like an old maserati i ran into. not a ferrari"
>"oh that ferrari's bumper can't cost more than $2000!"

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>>15963012

this. this always makes me nervous because my clutch has a lot of travel, and is mounted from the bottom.

>in really steep incline ramp getting out of a parking lot
>have to stop at the top before i can pull out because there's people coming
>asshole in a bmw literally an inch from my bumper in the fucking incline

I've never fucked it up, but it always makes me nervous.

>stupid fucking pointless thread
>someone actually replies with "just use your handbrake"
>he gets called a retard

why do i even come to this board anymore

log off you fucking retards

>>15961931
>not being a drummer and already mastered heel-toe

>>15963012
the fact that you can just barely see it's a ferrari made my sides explode
thx for the kek

>>15963338
>crank the engine
laffed

>this thread
Americans™

>>15962387
>>15963041
hill start assist is the best automated feature, ironically I got a car with one right after getting used to hill starts

>>15964498
what manual car has this
none

>>15965241
Not all manuals have handbrakes, retard.

>>15963041
Mah nigga
Based vw mitrite?

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>>15965441
In Burgerland maybe.

There are literally hundreds of thousands of Benzes with that exact combination in Europe.

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>>15965441
>this triggers the Burger

>>15965545
>driving a mercedes

>>15964511
Explain to me how this "burns" the clutch any more than using it normally does.

>>15965559
problem?

>>15965553
Why? All truckasaurs have that Parking Break option instead of E-breaks

>release clutch slowly until 1st gear starts to grab
>move foot firmly from brake pedal to gas pedal
>give as much gas as needed while releasing the clutch fully

Its rocket science

>>15965545
My ford ranger is like that

>>15964502
>>15964511
>>15965565
This is the post I was looking for and its what I do.
>on hill
>using brake to stay still
>need to go
>release clutch to catching point
>let go of brake
>literally already moving
>push accelerator to gogogo

Do people actually have first gears that can't get going with no gas? this method is basically like using your ebrake... But using your brake..

>>15965441
That's a lie, the new Camaro has this little fucking button in the center, I was confused at where it was and the guy I was test driving it showed me it.
>glad I walked away after the test drive

>>15963012
Don't do this to me man

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>>15961927
>>15963012
My house is at a road with 10% angle. This is nothing. I can easily start even without feeding clutch at this point, but for safety, when I am parallel parking, I use the handbrake.

>>15965441

My 2011 Audi A4 2.0T 6 Speed has this.

There are 2 different "hill assist" features in the car. When you feather the clutch from a stop, it engine automatically revs up 400RPM to prevent stalling. The parking brake "button" will disengage once you generate enough forward momentum, giving you the most optimal hill start from a stop.

Das auto.

>>15964071
>being braked on an incline.
>using handbrake so car doesn't roll away when taking off
>somehow this isn't what the handbrake has a function for.

>>15965513
Sorry no vee dub, I've got it in my '14 Mustang GT

>>15963175
Nice crutch

If I know I won't be sitting there for long, I just put in neutral and hold the brakes.

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>shift to first
>floor it
>dump the clutch

Is this really an issue for amerilards?

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My Subaru has hill start assist so I never even think twice about being on a hill, I just go like normal.

I don't know why people hate those systems so much when they're so useful.

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...

>>15969165
no


NO


FUCK OFF FUCKASDkjasd

>>15969165

I'll wait until midnight and get my car out when all cars are gone by then.

>>15964298
Faggots do that waiting for a light. This is not what people in this thread are doing. They hold the car with the clutch for a fraction of a second while their foot moves from brake to gas.

>>15969165
Easy.
The shitbox looks like it's FWD.
Pull the hand brake, floor it, dump the clutch.
Front wheels will start spinning out of control while back is still planted to the road
Now turn steering wheel to the left and skid out of your spot.
Easy, wasn't it?

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>>15969165

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>>15969165

Just dump clutch and floor it are you a fuccboi or what

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>>15969161

>>15965441
2016 Opel Astra
2016 Opel Insignia
2014 Audi A3

To name 3 I've driven.

>>15963395
lmao

>>15969161
>It's another 'Subaru fag wont shut the fuck up about his Subaru' episode

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>>15963012
>in friends civic
>it's stick
>gets up to red light at inclined draw bridge
>hummer pulls up behind us
>pretty much like 6 inches behind us
>looks me in the eyes and says "watch this"
>rolls right back into hummer
>has guy pay for his bumper
me right after

>>15965441
Friends 2010 ranger has this, also pretty sure hellcat does too

>>15963012
easy
Wait for Ferrari driver to drive away

>>15970552
This.
If you don't react to the green signal in 3 seconds, the doucherrari will overtake anyways.

>>15969910
wat.

>>15971481
In a situation where two cars hit each other front to back the one in the back is ALWAYS responsible until they can prove it wasn't their fault. And ontop of that, I'm pretty sure there's rules about leaving proper distance for situations just like that even if it was on cam.

>>15969910
kek

>>15962270
>>15963620
>>15963947
I do this can it really hurt your clutch? Its only .5 sec of clutch hardly seems significant.

>>15972779
Your clutch is made to wear. If you're not red lining your engine and holding the clutch halfway out while it smokes you're fine.

>>15965260
I'm not a drummer I'm an actual musician

>>15961931
what the hell is heel toe

>>15961927
someone explain pls. I do drive manual but idk what the pic is implying

>>15963012
Rev it, and drop the clutch on the mofo, only to brake check his ass five yards later.

>needing to heel toe for any public road hill
>rolling back on a hill
>using an ebrake on a hill as to not wear clutch (even though that's what the clutch disk is for)

>>15973144
heel on one pedal toe on the other

>>15973205
what for?

>>15969079
Glad I'm not the only one. Literally the least retarded method.

>>15973158
When you roll back at hillstart

>>15973327
oh. why dont americans do like everyone else and have driving schools? that way they can actually learn basic driving skills before getting licences

>>15964502
yeah mine cant do that. weak piece of shit

>>15965455
What car doesn't have a handbrake, wtf?

>>15963789
>putting neutral at a stop
I'll guess you've never drove on heavy traffic

>>15972944
I hope you're not a guitarist, if you are it's hilarious that you think you're a musician

>>15973225
So you can have some torque for a hill start or to downshift and brake for a turn.

Basic manual shit man.

>>15973629
>to downshift and brake for a turn
I didn't know that anything less than 5000lb had an unsynchronized gearbox still

>>15973689
>unsynchronized gearbox
That's not what I'm talking about. You would have to double clutch for that anyway.

You use heel-toe to blip the throttle so its smoother and easier on the gearbox.

>>15964384
it is possible, just not as easy

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>>15969910
what a legend

>>15965634
try that in awesome inclines while having a cargo(your mum)

>>15973705
>smoother and easier on the gearbox.
who cares, are you poor?

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>>15961941
in a 25 hp car it might be a thing. My mom and dad(I'm american) both talked about using the handbrake on hills and doing some crazy steps instead of letting the clutch out while you put your foot on the gas when you release the brake.
as someone with a v8 you just let the clutch out and go up the hill.

>>15974655
what if you have like 3000lbs on your backseat? will it not stall?

>>15963012
>Own a Skoda Citigo
>Literally doesn't roll back even on steep inclines

>>15961927
is that a twingo?

>>15965441
2016+ Honda Civic

>>15961927
>he's so poor he doesn't have brake assist

E N D
Y O U R S E L F

>>15973446
he is memeing, cars without handbrakes wont pass the test for being able to register it i dont know the english word

>>15963347
>tfw live in FL
>have to do hill stop on driving test
>on flat ground

>>15973629
>Basic manual shit man.
nigga if you cant just switch your feet quickly and have to do some retarded foot hack to rev match you're the one who need to get the basics

>>15965081
>>15965096
There's no need to hold the break when you have released the clutch because the car already starts pulling forward before giving any gas. If you keep holding the break after you release the clutch you will kill the engine.

>>15963003
>the only non-troll post has no replies

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>>15964324
my cars e-brake is on the floor...

>>15975105
>needing brake assist to drive properly
nu male