Why are Itlalian cars generally shit?

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>>15951910
Pic related ya nig

>>15951939
Not really.

>>15951964

t. massimo verrano

>>15951964
>Bottom of every reliability survey ever

>>15951982
>>Bottom of every reliability survey ever
Actually, its mostly German cars that are at the bottom.

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>>15951964
Mjet spotted

>>15953315
>t. mjet

>>15951895
Crap quality control and general engineering fuckups.

Some of their ideas are pretty cool, like that Multiair engine with the hydraulic valve setup, but poorly executed.

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>reliable 200hp/L with a new turbo and ECU on stock internals
>generally shit
It's only the best hot hatch of the current decade.

>>15951982
In burgerland, not in yurop.
>>15953315
this.

>>15951895
they skimp on materials.
they'll use the cheapest nastiest steel they can lay their hands on, so it's as durable as wet loo paper.
they design some amazing things but forget that human hands have to reach into spaces to conect the electrics, so the connections always fall apart.
they can make an engine so phenominal it could rule the world (FIAT 2.0 DOHC) and surround it with other bits so you can't get at it to service it properly.

only once the vehicles leave the factories and enthusiasts get their grubby mitts on them are Italian cars able to fullfill their potential.

this one is for the toilet-kin, the absolute DIESEL SCUM small man with even smaller ideas. im finding it difficult to deal and speak with my diesel fiat loving son on a day to day basis hed rather be """going wonderlust levels of HAM""" at the local Blue Man Group show at the expense of my life insurance. he wants to make my death look like an accident so that he can claim the money and go watch Matilda on Ice with impunity. the absolute SHIT LIPS this activity is nothing short of sneaky, i never knew my pinto loving spawn would turn into this monster, this reptilian lizard kin son of a bitch.

as i type this im in the electronic section of Giant Tiger and getting in tune with my inner "rogue pixels" so that i have a sturdy defense against my son named Michael Jet (mjet for short"

have i failed as a father? yes and no. i bought him the 1.3 digger mobile in automatic to teach him temperance and respect for the samurai code, you start low and aim high, but like most corrupt defective boys he'd rather just identify as THE GOLD FACE instead of dealing with me directly. i have to deal with THE GOLD FACE as proxy. these are his crimes who will take him in

fucking absolute scum

I think it was on a Jay Leno video when tells the story of when he's at some Fiat supplier in Italy.
The manager gets a load of parts that failed the QC checks but slaps the QC passed stickers on.
Jay asks what he's doing and the manager says "eet doesn't matter eets just a fiat".
Maybe apocryphal but made me chuckle.

>>15953374
except it's not hot
it's ugly as fuck
uglier than the shitty ass MINI

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>>15953443
lmfao

>>15953374
>needing new turbos and ECU to put out 200 horsepower


What is this? the 90s? The fiesta ST put that much power out stock.

>>15953443
>Michael Jet

>>15953498
200 hp/L. With 1.4 liters that's close to 300 hp total. The Fiesta needs 1.6L to accomplish 200 hp overall.

Am I doing this right?

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>>15953567
>diesel fiat

>>15953532
200hp/L
[citation needed]

>>15951964
What's wrong with you? The Fiat 500 is italian.

>>15953862
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/2013-gumball-3000-romeo-ferraris-300-hp-fiat-500-abarth-video-59520.html

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>>15953532
>if you tune a Fiat 500 you can get 300HP
>a stock Fiesta ST can only make 200HP
>Ford BTFO!

Shouldn't be hard to find the problem with this argument. 400whp FiST's exist

>>15953926
Oh and here's one with 320 hp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfBpxFxaOC4

>>15953926
>>15953939
>tuned
>one-offs
>reliable

>>15953374
That is the most unreliable small car released this decade. Not joking, it falls to bits and shits the bed after x amount of kilometres, and it's also a women's car.

>>15955642

Nah euro fords are far worse for reliability.

Had a panda as a hire car in Italy, fun car and great for Italy's narrow busy roads, struggled a bit on autostrada overtaking trucks at 150kph would make it quite unstable

Because Italians are notoriously poor drivers and they'll just end up crashing the things anyway.

>>15956325

Germans drive good, so why are their cars so shit?

>>15956340
1. "Good" is not an adverb.
2. Germans overthink things and end up making their cars and other machines way too complicated, proprietary, and expensive.

>>15956340
t. has never been to any bigger german city
driving in cologne will give you heart attacks from raging.

>>15956325
Put another nationality into Italy and observe how they'll drive.

>>15953939
>>15953932
still all fwd pos

The fiat panda is nice though

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>>15956747
So what, FWD isn't a drawback with a short wheelbase and low weight. Reminder that the Mini won several rally championships and touring car championships with FWD and 70 hp or something.

>>15956753
in its class of?

>>15956782
Overall.

>>15956340
>Germans drive good
kekus maximus.jpg
the people here drive as shit as anywhere else in the world

it's because stupid people started this whole "muh italian soul"

there was a moment in history when non-supercars were so fucking shit nobody could defend them
they simply had to get a grip and or else they would be fucked, and guess what, they made quite a few good cars
but then the "muh soul" retards came again and now they stopped giving shit yet again


one thing i can praise, they sure know how to make some good engines
3.2 busso is fucking legendary, 1.4 that sits in abarth 124 and 500 is pretty great, so are their FUCKING DIESELs though i heard some bad things about these low liter ones like that 1.3, but that doesn't change the fact that back in the day their 1.9 jtd/multijet was superior to vw's 1.9 TDI, i kid you fucking not

>>15953443
Beat post in the history of /o/

>fiat
>rusting 4 years in

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My Italian car isn't shit

>>15957365
>looks a non shit
>everything else: a shit

>>15957377
Pretty much every Fiat is shit except for the 124 Spider afaik, Mines actually a Pininfarina so that's kinda cool.

>>15957365
nice miata

>>15953374
>200hp/l
>.7l engine

>>15953391
http://www.anusedcar.com/index.php/tuv-report-year-age/2015-2-3/489
104. Fiat Dobló
122. Fiat 500
124. Fiat Punto
127. Fiat Panda

>>15957445
>tuv
lol

>>15957453
This, how do germs get away with this blatant shit to make their shitty cars seem reliable?
Why does no one question these practices?

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>>15953315
>being this delusional

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FCA a shit

>>15957445
>anused car
hahaha haha

>>15957453
Feel free to post surveys from other countries
We're waiting...

lads why does MJET get so triggered whenever fiats are mentioned. i would assume that he would be desensitized to the incessant trolling

>>15951895
Honest question: Have you ever been to Italy?