4real manual super cars

>>15945858
Snek

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Caterham CSR

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>>15945867
Donk > Caterham

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F Type JAAAGGGGG

>>15945892
>F-type
>Supercar
Pick one. Also, the V8 (which is the only engine approaching supercar performance) isn't available with a manual.

>>15945901
>implying the V6 couldn't make supercar power
Think outside the box for once in your pathetic life FFS

>>15945908
It makes, what, 380hp? A hybrid Volvo makes that much nowadays. It's not impressive by commuter car standards, and certainly won't hold up to any 550+ hp supercar engine.

Oh, and the chassis itself is too heavy to be considered a supercar in terms of performance. Come back when they build the CX-75.

Viper

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>>15945930
Fuckin yea man, this

>>15945901

>make a V6 and V8
>automatic only in V8

Fucks sake, Jaguar...

>>15946315
People couldn't handle a RWD 550hp supahchahged V-ate, hence the move to an AWD automatic. It's not a sportscar anyways, it's a tourer. Comfy as fuck too, I'd muchr ather get the auto, with it's wider gear spread for Bahnburning.

doesnt exist

no supercars use manuals

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>>15946347
>imblying

>>15946362
thats an old irrelevant shitbox

it cant even be called super anymore

>>15946322
Not him but Jaguars aren't a car I'd shit on for being automatic on performance models but I'd still get a manual GT car any day. Hell BMW still ranks pretty highly for me just because they still offer manual despite being sort-of-luxury/performance based

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>>15946370
I can keep this up all day.

>>15946381
>that was 3 years ago
>Lambo doesnt make a single manual transmission car anymore

ok

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>>15946381
>1 in 500 specialty model
>Jack's the price up another $50k for a less expensive transmission

>>15946392
So supercars can have a manual gearbox, thanks for agreeing with me. It's just not for sale right now, but supercars can be had with manuals.

>>15946409
old cars are irrelevant tho

so no you cant

>>15946416
>3 years old
>more expensive than you'll ever be able to afford

>''irrelevant''
No.

>>15946422
its not in production

its irrelevant

>>15946422
Only a fool or a sheik would buy that car

>>15946428
Or someone sensible enough to buya manual 360, 430 or Gallardo, and enjoy the rapid appreciation in the coming 10 years.

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>>15946437
>buying a car as an investment

How fucking dumb are you?

>>15946441
>How fucking dumb are you?
Dumb enough to realise that bigger investment gains can be had in the automotive market, than there can be had on the stock market.

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/2005-Ford-GT

>>15946465
Better hurry then, not like you have much time left to make a fortune by scamming boomers

>>15946481
Manual supercars and 911's might crash a bit once the financial market takes off again, and boomers die, but once the millenials figure out they want a mostly-computerless car, they'll skyrocket the prices again.

>>15946494
So in 30 years, good luck with that

>>15946494
Except boomers were the ones to popularize automatics

>>15946422
>more expensive than you can ever afford
>relevant

>>15946512
>supercars
>relevant

>>15946494
>mostly computerless

What does this even mean

>>15946503
they were also smart enough to know they have no place in a sports car

>>15946518
That there's no modern nannies like adaptive cruise control, invasive traction control and such. Most late 90's/ early 00's supercars feature this lack of computerised control software.

>>15946519
thats why Corvettes are usually automatic and why all serious performance cars these days are auto as well amiright

>>15946536
Corvettes are usually autotragic because of the boomer demographic, and autoboxes certainly weren't the performance option up to a few years ago (depends on your opinion on the 6L vs the 8L).

>>15946541
yeah its called technological advances

manual doesnt have a place in the performance world anymore

>>15946519
>spend a shitton on a car meant for enjoyment
>get it in automatic
>smart
K

>>15946548
go to bed grandpa, you'll never be cool again no matter how much you talk about technological advances

>>15946563
epic wow

you sure showed me

those objectively inferior cars are suddenly good now!

>>15946548
Yet 90% of all racecars are sequential manuals.

>>15946572
those are basically paddleshifters with a stick

theyre also less than paddleshifters on the hierarchy

F1 uses paddles and thats all you need to know

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>>15946568
Porsche seems to think so.

Porsche>>>>>>>>>>>>>(You)

>>15946583
F1 is also the least interesting major race series and has been for 5+years

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How about a Noble M600? It projects true supercar numbers from a twin turbo'd 4.4 V8, 650 hp and 1200 kg means it easily smokes most things on the road, and it's one of the most manual cars you can legally buy new. Stick shift is standard, though they do offer a paddle-shift sequential box as an option these days, and the design philosophy eschews electronic training wheels in favor of driver skill.

>>15946586
>that 1 cashgrab shitbox
>all their true performance cars are paddles

wow your so good at this

>>15946583
>look mom i'm pulling a flap just like schumi!

>>15946598
>gets better reviews than their "true performance cars"
yeah good point anon

>>15946596
>you can legally buy new
Meant to say "one of the most manual street legal cars this side of a Caterham", but apparently I'm a moron who forgot to rewrite the entire message

>>15946596
>ugly kit car

hardly counts

>>15946610
>reviews from muh feels autists

who cares

reviews means nothing for performance

>>15946583
>those are basically paddleshifters with a stick
No. Consumer car's paddleshifters are either conventional torque converter auto's, or DCT's. Race-tier sequentials are a mechanical connection that removes the classic H-pattern for a sequential pattern. Combine this with a dogbox instead of synchros, and you'll get (literally) instant upshifts and downshifts - unlike a computer that hesitates on the downshifts.

>theyre also less than paddleshifters on the hierarchy
Actually, traditional torque converters with flappy paddles will usually be a lot slower on downshifts than a dogbox sequential. DCT's can get close, but the computer can just cuck you out of a shift if it wants to.

>F1 uses paddles and thats all you need to know
F1 uses electrohydraulic manuals - manual in clutch activation, manual in gear selection. They're activated by paddles instead of a gear lever, to keep the driver's hands on the wheel. Still, they're manual in every sense of the word.

>>15946619
doesnt matter

if it isnt a h pattern its not really manual

>>15946615
>you're autistic if you take enjoyment the process of driving and don't have a delusional racing driver fantasy life

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>>15946630
So motorcycles are automatics then? A three on the tree is an automatic? Pic related is an automatic?

No, you idiot. Manual gearbox means both manual gear selection and manual clutch activation/deactivation. It has nothing to do with gear pattern.

>>15946647
those are manual, but not real manual. learn to read

>>15946647
motorcycles arent true manual

let me put it this way

if you arent using a stick to select your gears by going up down left and right it isnt manual

>>15946643
feels have no place in the performance world

>>15946675
>>15946677
>my arbitrary definition of ''real'' manual, which I can't properly argument, is the only correct one
No. Manual = manual gear selection, manual clutch. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>15946677
>not true manual
You're an idiot, what do you think a kick-shifter is for?

>>15946677
Give up dude, you fuckin lost.

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well hello there
:o)

>>15946677
>look how tough I am I like no fun allowed "race cars"

>>15946704
no I havent

the shit theyre cherrypicking arent true manual

sequentials arent real manuals

>>15946714
>muh manual is the only fun way to drive

:eyeroll

>>15946717
>sequential manual gearboxes aren't manual gearboxes
Keep denying the fact that you're wrong.

>>15946711
Sportscar, maybe a GT, but not really a supercar me thinks.

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>>15946725
>r-real racers d-drive autos

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>>15946735
yessir

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gran otismo

>>15946753
Sounds like my dad when we have the auto vs. Stick argument. "No son, you can't out shift an automatic."

>>15946764
>"No son, you can't out shift an automatic."

your dad is right

>>15946753
>>15946764
>>15946735
honestly if I had a serious drag racing hobby then I would always have automatics in my dragsters.
>invincible torque convertor
>thousands of clutches to never have to replace
>never slips

>>15946753
>competition of engine tuning and then holding the steering wheel straight while dumping the gas pedal
>motorsport

>>15946766
He's old :^). Naw but my dad is the best mechanic I know. I still need that left foot pedal though.

>>15945858
manual gearboxes on supercars are for tryhard autists

manual gearboxes are for sports cars not supercars

if a car has better than a 5 lb/hp ratio it's time to let go of the big black shaft

>>15946780
i agree with your points anon

>>15946764
>"No son, you can't out-upshift an automatic in a straight line."
Fixed it for your dad. You try downshifting a TH400 like in >>15946753, see how quickyl that'll hit second gear.

>>15946770
Actually, I'd much rather use a Jerico instead, banging gears in an (almost) automatic-only sport has a lot more charm anyways. Auto's are bound to be better for perfomance anyways - can't beat a Lenco for anything voer 1000hp.

>Torque converters don't slip
Say what?