What do you think of Japanese pickups?

>>15943352
they really put cummins in those things?
I did not know that

>>15943352
Should be bretty good. The titan at least, vk56 is awesome engine and now diesel powah option.
Tundra always seemed like the crap choice and ridgeline doesnt count

god that thing is fucking hideous.

>>15943380
The proportions are just fucking weird. The front end is comically too large for the rest of the truck.

I learned to drive on a stick shift hardbody nissan truck
>I was in Mexico
>I was like 12 years old if not younger

>>15943352
>titan
>tundra
>Japanese

Yeah okay they are all just oversized american "pickups"

>>15943352
>>15943856
Titan is built in Mississippi
Tundra is built in Texas

Don't think anything about Jap trucks because there is no such thing anymore

>>15943380
>>15943443
US pickup buyers in a nutshell. Form over function.
>>15943856
This.
>>15943915
There's plenty, just not within the US. And most of the Japanese global pickups are built in Thailand these days.

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>>15943352

old Toyotas and Nissans are the only small pickups i'll drive, only Hardbody and Hilux

>>15943450

fucking things are awesome, i drove my '88 in -50 celcius one year and it still went. one of my old co-workers here in north Canada drove his '87 from here to El Salvador years ago to see family, he blew his transmission at the Mexico-Usa border and just drained the gear oil, thing still drove all the way back here and got a new trans in it. 86-89 were the best

>>15943915

there still is Jap trucks, Titan and Tundra were just so Nissan and Toyota had something to compete with the big American 3. theres not even a JDM spec of either pickup

being said the Cummins Titan looks decent, otherwise i'd look at the 4 cylinder 4WD 5spd Tacoma that just came out but $35k base model is too much for something im gonna bang offroad in the mountains

>>15943352
God-tier

70 Series Landcruisers will eat all the amerifat landbarges in offroad ability, reliability and practicality

Hilux/Navara still better all-rounders than anything else

Old compact trucks like the old Hilux are based.

Honda managed to shoot itself in the foot with the Accord-with-a-truck-bed known as the Ridgeline, then it shot itself again after stopping production of the S2000.

>>15943352
Do people even buy the new Nissan Titan? So far, I've only saw one on the road in North Texas.

>>15945512
I saw a few in Canada when I was trekking around

>>15945512
I've seen 3 I believe

the problem with it is that it's expensive. base price, all the way through the most premium option, are at least 10k more expensive than its Tundra/F150 etc counterpart. I don't understand why

>>15943352
I think, if was American, I'd drive an F-150. But since I'm not, I enjoy my Navara with the 2.5l DCi, which is actually a much better engine than the 4.0l V6 you yanks put in it.

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>>15943443
I thought that was popular over there though

They're guaranteed garbage if they're designed for the American market, just like American pickups.

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Here in Norway they are pretty much the only logical option in the normal-size truck market except for the Ford Ranger, although it doesn't sell all too well.

The germans dominate the flatbed van/pickup market, while the americans have the larger pickups

>>15945656
Domestitards simply convince themselves the Jap branded pickups fall short on subjective measures whilst denying any fault of their own chosen marque.

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>>15943352
That angle is actually generous. Theres less flattering angels.

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>>15945696
Nah, Ford is just as bad.
A team of designers somewhere though this looks good.

>>15945728
Took me a while for that design to grow on me. Still funky looking though.

>>15945707
Whoa, you're right - that DOES look bad!

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>>15945728
I think it looks good.

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Problem for me is all new half ton pickups are too huge. Bodies are bloated and they are a bitch to manuever. I like japanese power trains though. For me 05-06 Tundra is God tier. Perfect size, simple interior, stump pulling torque, reliable.

>>15945707
>>15945728
>>15945777
When did pickup trucks get so ugly?
Fuck, there isn't a single good looking one on the market, be it American or nip.

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>>15946653
ferd ranger with the new facelift looks good imo

>>15945500
Topkek
Keep telling yourself that.

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>>15946653

>>15945728
>>15945777
I just saw one of those Ford truck rear end a 2007 Chevy 1500. Ford lost bumper and grille, plus one headlight. Bumper fell on the ground.
Chevy only a about two inches into the bumper.

>>15946837
the entire front is "grille" fuching hell

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>>15946837
the brazilian market has some cool small pickups

I'm buying a gen 1 tundra on saturday and cant wait.

this thread is dildos

>>15946868
Fuck me it's a Subaru brat

Wish there was enough of a market for shit like this in the US that japs would make shit like it , fuck chebby

When I have disposable income I will convert my first gen Forester into a BRAT and do it right mark my words

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>>15946653
Chevy had a thing going with their new Silverado before they fucked the face up with it's new and extremely early facelift (pic related).

I liked the previous face because it looked reminiscent to a 88-97 Chevy Truck.

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>>15946834
Redpill me on why I'm wrong then

Protip: You can't

>>15945402
There's no JDM spec hilux or navara now either

>>15948361

And the JDM 70 Series only has the V6 petrol engine, no 1VD. Also all JDM 70 Series have ABS, stability and traction control. Only MY16 export 70 Series have the gizmos, and only MY12 and above for export 70's had ABS.

Fuck that, love the 1VD.

>>15946868

PRESIDENT TRUMP BETTER GET RID OF THE 25 YEAR IMPORT LAW REEE

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>>15948487
Why the fuck would someone who built a big part of their campaign on restricting automotive trade from Latin America, make it easier to import vehicles from Latin America?

>>15946653
I think the rams look nice enough.. Design seemed to take a nosedive sometime this last decade

>>15943352
None of them can match american trucks when it comes to getting from 0 to McDonalds

>>15943352
>Makes a half ton diesel pickup
>Costs just as much if not more than a 3/4 or 1 ton truck

What's the fucking point?

>>15954240
checken tax strikes again

>>15943363
Yes.
That engine was destined for the Ram1500 but when the auto recession/buyout fiasco happened and Dodge became owned by Fiat, Fiat refused to pay/use Cummins for the use of the engine and instead went to an Italian diesel company under its umbrella for cheaper and now you have the crazy overpriced EcoDiesel Ram. Cummins was left with the engine on their bench and decided to ask the auto industry, "so...does anybody want a diesel for their car line...?" Nissan stepped up and said "We'll take it!"
And now we have a Cummins Nissan Titan.
I feel it was a huge mistake and loss for Dodge. As someone who has dealt with A LOT of American diesel owners who haul heavy loads daily only have respect for Dodge BECAUSE of Cummins.

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>>15946837
What about the new Toro?

>>15954809
that front end looks like a Ford Fusion giving bareback to a mustang and laying on top of it

>>15943363
>>15954667
Best decision Nissan made since they initiated the market research program that resulted in the 240Z, tbqh. Putting a Cummins in the Titan has pretty much guaranteed them a decent slice of the American pickup market for as long as they keep the relationship going.

>>15954240
A diesel in a more manageable package. Like 80% of Super Duty buyers only get the thing because that used to be the only way to get a diesel.

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Too bad they don't make anything like the 1st gen Tundra anymore. One of my favorite trucks in the past 30 years. They fucked up when they tried to emulate the American bloat-up. Just look at the shit on the left.

>>15954809
Nice Citroen bro, is that a C4 Picasso Pickup?

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>>15954809
Fuck the Toro. Fullback is where it's at.

>>15946653
>form>function
And that's pickup enthusiasts in a nutshell.

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>>15955781
MFW fiat copy citroen

>>15957097

>glitzed up l200

>>15945500

>70-series Landcruisers will eat all the amerifat landbarges in offroad ability, reliability, and practicality.

Offroading, maybe, but nothing else. They chug fuel too fast to be practical, and reliability isn't sufficiently better to offset their more expensive parts and fewer experienced mechanics.

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>>15945707
I thought this looked similar.

>>15958533
Basically, yes. Which is what makes it a good Fiat.
>>15961078
Actually, the older 1HD-FTE powered HDJ78 and 79 were pretty damn good on fuel. The only thing that's keeping the current V8 1VD-FTE VDJ78/79 from being frugal is they still use the older non turbo diesel gearing (2450rpm@62mph). Luckily there's ways around this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpiShkEzrj4

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>>15962001
>79 series with splitter gearbox
want

>>15947282
This pissed me off, I was planning on chevy doing the whole 5 year grill cycle and buy a 2019 since it reminded me of the best year chevy 96-98, brand new and all mine. But no chevy went and fucked it all up with this new bold™ redesign that looks like shit. Fuck you GM. I looked past your shitty econoboxes and gay ass ads but ruining your bread and butter, the silverado after redeeming it from the 07-13 era you just lost a fanboy and lifelong customer.

>>15962075
>form>function
And that's pickup enthusiasts in a nutshell.
Feels like a case of déjà vu here.

>>15962085
they all function the same between the big 3. honestly with modern 1/2 tons it comes down to brand loyalty and looks, personally what I really want is a tacoma or colorado they'd be perfect for my needs but when your charging the same price for a fullsize why wouldn't you get a truck with the same mpgs and more capability? It's the exact same reason why the small truck market tanked in 10's all over again.

>>15962112
>charging the same price for a fullsize
http://www.chevrolet.com/colorado-small-truck/build-your-own.html
>$20,995
http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado-1500-pickup-truck.html
>$27,585

>>15962176
nigga im talking one step up from base model with 4x4, 4 doors, and an engine that can properly propel the vehicle (v6 for colordo V8 for siverado).

>>15962209
>Colorado Crew Cab/Shortbox 4x4 LT V6 $33,985
>Silverado Crew Cab/Shortbox 4x4 LT V8 $41,623
Are you just making up things as you go along hoping people will blindly believe your drivel?

>>15962085
>>15962112
This tbqh. There really isn't much difference between the Big 3's full-size pickups aside from Dodge/Ram having shit quality. A few details might be different, but the trucks' capability is largely the same. So why not make the final choice based on which one is more pleasing to your eye or which brand you're loyal to? It's not like you're going "The Ford is much more capable, but the Chevy is prettier so I'm buying it."

>>15962275
I'd make my choice more on the merit of the drivetrain.

>>15943352
I always put the new Titan high on a pedestal theoretically, but then in execution I wonder how it could bomb so bad.

>>15962285
But that's the thing. The diesels are really the only engines that are significantly different. All the various gas engines could be switched around.

>>15962302
>5.3L V8
>Ecoboost 3.5 V6
>easily confused
Maybe to the lowest common denominator pickup enthusiast.

>>15943352

japanese pickups are for:

a.) people who are not actually going to do real work with their truck, but want a truck
b.) people who want a reliable truck, but don't know anything about trucks or the mechanics of trucks

>>15962324
Sounds like you're talking about American trucks that happen to wear a Japanese badge famalam

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>>15962365

>>15962367
and?

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>>15962324
>>15962085
this and this

pic related blows any brotruck out of the water.
>3+ ton payload
>massive tray
>any fucken body style you want
>any transmission you want
>3 seater

These american trucks are purely to make you feel good. Why not just admit that and get a ridgeline, or a normal fucking car for that matter?

too bad the hilux beats all of the cunts combined overall.

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>>15945665
>normal size
>ford ranger

>>15962462
This has been true for decades. Pickups without drop sides or tippers are for accountants pretending to be construction workers.

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>>15963806

>>15963871
If it's not 12 yards long and two lanes wide it Americans don't consider it a "real" truck.

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>>15943352
About as Japanese as Benihana

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>>15943352
Love mine