is it reliable enough to be both funcar and daily commuting box?
Nobody knows how reliable it is because it just came out.
why not?
It really depends on what do you need car to do, the RS is a better funcar than a daily car, there is one alternative, the Civic Type R, its better daily car but worse fun car
>>15933423
Transverse AWD system with a possible RWD bias, trick differentials, brake vectoring - there's certainly a lot of possible failure points, not to mention that Ford has never stressed the 2.3 that hard. We'll have to see.
>>15933450
Best Ford alternative to the RS would be the Fiesta ST with some Mountune/Cobb goodies imo. Leaves you some money for a more dedicated weekend car, instead of compromising both weekend and DD by buying the RS - which isn't cheap, and has limited availability, unlike the volume ST's.
Why not just get a FoST?
Lets see.
Everything they have built in the last 5 years is proving to have shit reliability. Especially anything with a turbo.
Do you think a compact car pushed to its limits out of the box built by them will be reliable?
>>15934308
>t. GM with no source
>>15934308
No seriously aside from laughably bad heat soak in warm climates please give me a source on a the ST twins being unreliable.
>>15934481
2nd to last on jd power 2016 dependability ratings
>>15934308
t. gm fangurl
>>15934553
>jd power
>>15934532
You don't need a source to know all focuses have shit transmissions.
>>15934532
Not that anon, but this is what CR tells me about the Fiesta for starters.
>>15933423
If you think of it as the fun version of an econobox rather than the practical version of a sports car you won't be disappointed.
Now, now guys.
Let's all settle down and have a barbecue.
>>15934532
>>15934598
Here's a better visual
>>15933488
>fiesta ST
no...
>>15934609
>transmission is only unreliable with the DCT
problem solved
Get the manual
Thanks for proving our point
>>15934584
that's the automatic ones you fag, which they already fixed
The manuals are pretty solid. The only people complaining about them are the highschool kiddies who cants drive, beating the absolute dog shit out of them
>>15934609
That's all Fiesta's, not just ST's. Fiesta's and Focus's are well known for having shit tier auto transmissions. Other quirks they have are AC heat blend actuators going bad and clicking, but that's about it.
If that chart was ST only it wouldn't have the trans issue.
>>15934620
I don't have a dog in this fight, just giving you some data. I don't even know if the Fiesta is the right model to look at (OP's pic looks like a Focus to me), but CR is pretty shitty about sorting out different models and trims when they're similar in their eyes.
>>15934609
Don't buy the auto. Job done.
>taxi won't even defend the shitvette anymore
btfo
>>15934624
Yeah, why did Ford think it was okay to make a car out of aluminum and then not ship it with a bedliner. They'd still be in the black with regards to shedding weight, but it seems they want to save every last nickle in production.
>>15934725
you seem to forget that some people buy trucks and dont do truck things with them, and might not want a bed liner.
Im sure a factory "option" would be a nice compromise but it's a lot easier to just leave the responsibility to the customers.
If you buy a new truck and plan on doing truck stuff, would you leave the bed bare? I know I wouldnt, regardless if it's an aluminum bed or not
>>15934851
>you seem to forget that some people buy trucks and dont do truck things with them, and might not want a bed liner.
Meh, I was happier not realizing that was the case. Fair point anyway.
>>15933423
rockhard suspension and shitbox interior.
would not daily drive 2/10
>>15934951
But I thought people here love Honda's?
>>15933423
Probably, as long as you don't beat the shit out of it.
>>15934971
You could buy a whole fleet of aging shitbox hondas for the same money.
That's why people like Honda.
Matt Farah sold his after only a few months, says a lot.
>>15933423
> Reliable
> Ford Turdo
Pick one, or pick bits of the other of the road..
>>15938761
Somebody sat with the line locker on for too long
>>15934553
>MUH JD POWER
t. assmad gm fangurl alert
>>15933423
>Ford
Reliability is one factor Ford can't get right. Get a Chevy Sonic.
>>15933423
get the 2017 si coupe 24k walking out the door
>>15941299
but then you get
>fwd
>underpowered
>no boost
>2 doors less whores
>ugly styling
>worse handling
> honda devaluation
>>15938806
Matt Farah is a fucking joke
>>15933423
http://youtu.be/mBb-ViflqvU
>>15934584
Ughhhh yeah, you do
>>15933423
Stop being a bitch nigga, get a fun car and a dd
>>15933488
Why would he buy a Fiesta ST? Literally the definition of a shit box.
He could buy a used S-197 II mustang GT and have a much better car that isnt fwd.
>>15933423
is this a ford thread now? can someone redpill me on the new fusions? me want
>>15933423
>ford
>>15934609
Can you do one for the Accord and the Civic? I've been looking at those vs Focus/Fusion.
>>15938806
Probably understeered into a wall in it