what did he mean by this?

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>>15893004
and this?

who said that?

not sure who said it, what context it was in, or even what fucking car it is (thanks for explaining op) but probably something like the car looks like a sports car but really isnt. like riced civics, hondas, etc. they might look and sound sporty, but theyre just piles of shit

>200 hp on a good day
only complete retards would call that hairdresser's toy a sportscar.

>>15893045
>or even what fucking car it is
Please leave or get less dumb

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I seriously don't get the massive butthurt about this particular car.

It is kinda cheap, RWD and does 0-60 under 8 seconds.

The FUCK do people want more out of this?
Is everyone just massively spoiled or what the shit is going on?

>>15893087
all that ranting is also a great way to signal car makers to just stuff it and stop catering to the remaining crowd of young car enthusiasts since they're ungrateful anyways and it's not worth it.

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>>15893035
the guy that made spoon

>>15893045
>Don't even know what car it is

OP explains perfectly

Consider suicide

>>15893091
fuck off boomer, I like what I got.

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Guys I'd my 350z a sports car?

>>15893102
>miata
>civic
>race cars
lmfao
How delusional can japs be?

I love the refreshed version of this car and I love the idea of a RWD coupe for under 30k. But that's the thing. It's heavy, it's way too expensive for what it is and truth be told it's underpowered for what it is. The interior is slowly evolving BUT ITS 2016 AND NO FUCKING ARMREST ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!
Dorifto mode aside it needs atleast a 50hp boost or something. 200hp is okay if they offer a trim that's lightened.
Seriously the used market is horrible, people think a 70k car is still worth 18 grand. And buying it new just leaves a bad taste in your mouth because it FEELS like a 20,000$ car. What's stopping you from buying a coupe Honda Civic manual turbo model and BTFO 86 drivers?
/rant

>>15893138
ur mums a sportscar

i know cause i wrecked her

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>>15893145

>>15893141
>>Miata
>not the most popular amateur/semi-pro level racecar in existence

Want to know how I can tell you're a benchracer?

>>15893138
is an horse an athlet?
is dogs?

>>15893138
entry level grand touring

I dunno, I kinda have a soft spot for the underpowered underdog. I'm looking into getting one soon.

>>15893087
>does 0-60 under 8 seconds.
hard to find a car that doesn't

>>15893239
wait it's actually pretty easy >>15893141 reminded me

>>15893087
The problem is that you're on 4chan. There will always be people on here that will shit on something simply to shit all over it. I think it's a decent car, but it doesn't live up to everyone's shitty anime standards so others will claim it's a garbage car

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>>15893049
since when did power define a sports car?

>>15893253
That's the thing, it does doesn't it? Wasn't the point of dagumi that it WAS an under-powered / slow car compared to the competition?

>>15893156
>Miata
You have a strange way of spelling Elise.

>>15893273
dagumi's 86 had a group a engine. the point of initial d was to prove the superiority of the live rear axle design.

>>15893291
oh, i almost believed in something. that was close! good thing that was cleared up

>>15893138
350Z is a shit car

>>15893102
No shit the president of spoon is going to be saying that. He is butthurt about anything that isn't a honda, you would know this if you watched hot version. An 86 is much more of a sportscar than one of his shit little civics, I don't care how fast either one it

Here's the video since OP hasn't posted it.

http://youtu.be/cGj3oC-wPF0

>>15893273
The other anon is right, he got a group a engine swap, but that wasn't until the second stage iirc. So I'd say the first stage was about how he was beating them despite having a shitbox

>>15893004
Can someone link the video?

>>15893287
I've never heard of anyone in my area racing elises. Is that a thing in bongland?

>>15893273
Yeah, initial D was about the driver being more Important that the car, just like real life.

>>15893393
>Gt86 is more of a sportscar than the s2k
Oh /o/ you're always good for a laugh evey once in a while

>>15893451
It's a thing in every european country.
Only burgers think miatas are racing cars.

>>15893393
because you've driven as many cars as him? He doesn't bechrace on the internet, he actually went out and fucking BOUGHT a gt86 to get an opinion on it.

face it, it's shit.

>>15893430
someone's retarded. >>15893394

>>15893142

> Evaluating a drivers car.
> Complains about lack of armrests.

Srsly ameriburgers, you are spoiled beyond repair.

Sports = competititon. If it can't reasonably compete, or wasn't made to compete in

>track
>rally
>drag

It's not a sports car. It's a sporty car.

the GT86 was homologated for rally though, so it's a sports car

just not to snobs that don't recognize rally as motorsports

>only track matters! driving takes the passenger seat to technological advancement!

>>15894117
>worst tripfag is being retarded again

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>>15893381
Even the 07-08?

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>>15894117
MX-5s are raced in yurop too m9

>>15893004
Who the fuck still uses yellow subtitles?

>>15893138
Yes, it's meant to be an affordable, trackable GT.
The problem is how fucking heavy it is for the power that it makes, it's unlike the 240Z because of it and a lot of people don't like it. Doesn't mean it's not a sports car though.

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>>15894273
I own a 240 as well, so I know what you mean
>More room in my 240 than my 350

>>15894339
I don't really know what they were thinking when designing the 350/370, I guess the bulkiness and weight are probably due to more aggressive safety regulations which sucks. I'd love for the next Z to go back to basics but I don't know how well modern Nissan could pull that off.

>>15893087
People here are assmad mostly because it wasn't like $5k new, so they couldn't afford it.

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>>15893156
>poorfags clog up tracks with their shitmobiles so that means it's a racecar

>>15894379
doing a season of spec miata is not cheap
more so if you want a shot at winning races

>>15894366
>keep samefagging this shit trying to force it to be true
>meanwhile the actual truth is that its one of the most underperforming car new in its category and price bracket
slower
than
a
miata

>>15894397
Spec Miata actually IS cheap compared to any other type of race series, hence why poorfags flock to the Miata so much.

Still doesn't make the Miata a race car.

>>15893087
Because you might as well take that money and spend it on a good, used sports car.

>>15894410
And here comes the Poverty Brigade.

>>15893130
>entitled millennial detected

>>15894423
>New cars cost more than used cars


Woah, what a revelation.

>>15894362
Actually I think the 350 looked great, 370 not so much. There's no reason for it to be so heavy though, and I wish it was an inline 6 but that died off back in the Z31 so it's way too late to complain

>>15894454
Even in 10 years, the GT86 is still going to be a shit option.

>>15894457
I actually like the visual design of the 350 a lot, the 370 is just ugly by trying to look too modern.

>>15894460
This

Why get a GT86 when S2000s are hanging around 15k for decent sub 90k mile rwd sports car

>>15893268
since when did athletic ability define sports?

>>15894497
since Chariot Racing.

>>15893004
He means it kind of sucks.

>>15894518
This.

I agree with him

So we're dick out of luck until Nissan releases a new S-chassis

>>15894531
>Renault-Nissan

>making anything but shit


That's a good joke.

>>15894531
>>15894539
th-there's rumours about a new S-chassis! You just gotta believe and buy more crossovers to support them!

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>>15894564
>S16 is a hybrid made to compete with the Prius

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>>15894483
Not everyone wants a convertible.

Besides, S2ks are overpriced now.

>>15894627
>overpriced now
it blows out anything new in the 30k range and beats most things at the used 15-20k range especially considering availability
they've gone up in price sure but they're still good for the money

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>>15894117
>>15893287
>corolla motor

>>15894471
I feel like it's trying too hard to look like a Porsche

>>15893045
>but the 86 is a 'sporty car' not a real 'sportscar
>but the 86
>86

>>15893287
Arnt you the fag that used to have that tumblr emote in his name?

>>15894707
Better than a 323 motor.

>>15893102

>civic is a race car
>brz isnt a sports car

not even /o/ is this bad

>>15894483

s2000 have glass transmissions

86 is pretty solid

all it takes for a 86 to get better power to weight ratio is an intake tune, and ripping out the rear seats.

>>15894123

His company did anyways. and they always made the worst 86 builds on hotvers. I've never actually seen tsuchiya and his goons be so condescending, in talking shit about their civic mods they hamfisted unto the 86.

spoon a fucking shit

>>15893239
this. My miata does it in fucking 6.8

6.8

its a 2006

its 10 years old and is on par with a brand new """""FLAGSHIP SPORTS CAR"""""

>>15895150

86 is 6.1

and sports cars=/=drag racers. sports cars are more about keeping speed through corners. not stoplight racing. you got rental v6 mustangs for that.

>>15893087
Poorfags and bus cucks. >>15894423 is right, but that's more just a matter of people spending their money in a way he doesn't like.

They'll be the next 240SX once they depreciate hard enough.

>>15894531
>>15894564
If only.

>Nissan and Mitsu co-develop a new RWD turbo 4 Silvia/Starion to kick the Toyobaru's head in

>>15895186
>6.1
citation needed

most figures i see are in the mid to high 7s
e.g. http://www.evo.co.uk/toyota/gt-86/page/0/1

also
>implying the 86 can keep speed through corners on those shitty tires

>>15895880
Can't you just put tires that aren't shit on?

>>15895915
>Can't you just put tires that aren't shit on?
Maybe you should ask Subaru/Toyota that question instead.

>>15894166
>27k starting price for car
>no armrest
Not even worth my time

>>15895951
Don't forget
>turn signals aren't self-cancelling
>there are motorcycles that have self-cancelling turn signals

>>15894707
You are forgetting the disintegrating oil pump.
Really puts a standard money-shift to shame.

>>15895950
All I'm saying is that it sounds like one of those problems that can be fixed easily and the complaint is that it's not twice as fast and half the price, and that it doesn't come with armrests?

>>15895054
link to vid or you're bullshitting

>>15894181
http://www3.toyota.com.au/86/racing-series

>>15895962
They are tho

>>15894255
this video is beyond unwatchable. you feel like you want to put it on mute because even tho you can't understand Japanese, every other word is preceded with about 5 seconds of eeeehhhhhh... uuuhhhhhh... is this how Japanese fucking speak their native language? Then sometimes you hear an English word and you realize the subtitles aren't even matching what this dude is saying. turd video is turd

>>15895962
I own an 86.

The turn signals are self cancelling

>>15895880

http://www.motortrend.com/news/tested-2013-subaru-brz-hits-60-mph-in-6-4-sec-quarter-mile-in-14-9-sec-95-5-mph-183407/

6.4 for the MY13 on Prius tires

I beat a scion frs off the line in a stock 4 door 1994 cavalier with 4 more people in the car. No joke.

>>15896519
good for you :^)

>>15896347
Own a BRZ, can confirm.

I like the principle behind the GT86, what it tired to be, a modest lightweight FR with modest HP like what the AE86 was.

But the fact that it has all these fancy bells and whistles and a boxer engine just kills it for me, do you really need a rear facing camera and traction control?

I was going to get one but fuck it, I'll either stick to my current car or get a RHD MR-S.

>>15897337
Yes you need the rear camera much like many other new cars you have shit rear visibility. Though the fact there isn't a factory manual windows rubber floor mat option pack other then the rear camera is a fucking shitshow

>>15893239
my shitbox does 0-60 in 11 seconds

under 8 seconds is super quick, a modern 6 cyl doing 0-60 in 7 secs is insanely quick for me

>>15897959
>my car is very slow therefore a slow car feels fast to me
you sound like a meek little faggot

>>15894497
it doesn't

>>15894627
should have installed a spoon's rollcage.

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>>15895032
he fell for the intake meme

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>>15893004
As expected this was just another tread full of bench racers that incorrectly believe handling focused cars are not competitive.

Different types of racing, different types of cars. The fastest way to identify yourself as a poser in the car scene is to treat bhp and 0-60 times as the the only metric of performance.

I'm sure you enjoy your internally supercharged Mustang with Lambo exhaust. The rest of us don't really care what you drive to work in traffic.

>>15893087
My car is a lot cheaper and a lot faster. Its rwd

>>15899242
>a car has to be good if it's focused on handling from that factory!!! (even though the BRZ is still shit at even that too)

>>15893141
>>15893156
>>15894379
>>15894415
>>15895009
>>15895186
>>15899242
>Race Car
>Noun
>an automobile built or modified for racing.

You are all fucking retarded for arguing shit you have no clue about. A fucking wheel chair could be a race car with proper modification, as well as any off the line production econobox. Go argue OPINIONS with your shop teachers.

>>15897959
A modern 6 cylinder can easily hit around 6.

>>15893141
>>15893287
>1.3 liter diesel puntocuck

>>15894255

hot version

>>15899242
I just want to point this out.

Fiesta ST holds a higher G-force rating on a skidpad than a GT86/BRZ does.

a RWD car being beaten out on a kidpad by FWD.

That's.
Fucking.
Retarded.

>>15894212
By poor people.

>>15905018
>what are tires

>>15900002
What car?

>>15893141
you fucker. take this back and i cant believe you could get away with such a controversial post and walk scott free. how can he? what a piece of absolute garbage.

lil trivia about me: im having LOADS of fun in my 1992 Honda Diabetic Coupe, and let me tell you buddy, my son is screaming, and yes before you get into the nitty gritty, i have looked for solutions of google, and imbeciles such as yourself love to spoon feed me disinfo and misinfo like you're some kind of lizard-kin son of a bitch like "have you tried getting a new son"? what kind of garbage is spewing from those diseased lips of yours? your words are from the toilet they are septic they are from SEWAGE. every day my son tries to kill me but fails because i end up scaring him with printed out pictures of snakes from National Geographic and THIS IS the only thing that saves my life.

and then what? I come back from a tiring day from feding off my 6'7" child of a man that happens to be my son and read this post. THIS POST MADE BY the Diesel bastard himself. you are scum, and yes I have fun you cant take that away from me, absolute slime, you are that piece of shit FLUBBER from that Robin williams movie, you are filth