CHEATERS!

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>mfw anglo-american pussies didn't bomb VW Wolfsburg plant for some reason

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>implying Americans care about emissions
The only people I saw complaining about the diesel engines were wet as fuck for lawsuit money.

>>15880290
They aren't the only people to cheat on emissions. All the big companies did it at one time.

>>15880290
like why was the cheating bad though
they were able to make the cars actually presented to the consumer effectively faster cars, still diesels but I really don't see the consumer downside, all the parts were designed around this flaw also anyway

>>15880435
this, if Americans cared we wouldn't drive around pavement princesses and cars like the Hellcat wouldn't exist

>>15880445
I wouldn't be surprised if other manufacturers are still doing it or have done it on certain model years. VW probably would never have gotten caught if they had only done it for a year or two. They just kept on going because they're retards.

If they had stopped doing it in 2013 no one would ever have caught them because no one goes back and re-tests old cars other than maybe the state of California (although they never caught this issue)

>>15880485
I researched it and I wasn't surprised to see how many companies had cheated emissions. VW aren't even unique on how theyou did it. Ford did it that way a while ago.

>>15880290
its the only reason i like vw

>>15880501
Yeah, VW shouldn't have done it and they do deserve to be punished, but Americans wouldn't have gone after GM this hard if it was them caught cheating. GM barely got in trouble for concealing a design defect that killed more than 100 people.

>>15880511
>they do deserve to be punished
stop being a little kike lover vw is based af

>>15880520
I own a VW, they deserve to be punished for this

Doesn't mean I wouldn't buy another VW though, I bought mine after dieselgate broke

>>15880537
>they deserve to be punished for this
stop being a commie faggot they should be left to their own devices

>>15880504
this. glad to see someone pulling a fast one on the EPA, even if its a shit company

>>15880544

Hear hear. Does anyone else use their TDI to try to suffocate annoying cyclists?

Nothing like seeing a condom suit wearing faggot coughing and trying to wave away my Jew ash based soot.

>>15880538
it's not about the EPA but lying to customers that pisses me off, what next

>oh yeah we said it had airbags and a good crash test safety rating
>we lied, sorry

>>15880588
>airbags
>good crash test safety rating
hey mom get off 4chan you faggot

>>15880595
>a car should kill you in an accident
nice edge

>>15880600
dont suck and you'll be fine

>>15880595
air bags are good tho

>>15880610
>extra weight
>good

>>15880614
Depends on what the extra weight is for
Air bags, for example, are good.

>>15880625
if you dont suck ass at driving you dont need airbags learn to drive faggot

>>15880608
I'm not worried about my driving, I'm worried about others. I want a car that will protect me from the other retards on the road. If I was the only person on the road I'd just ride a motorcycle.

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>le force a scandal to shill money out of your competitors tactics
>mfw nu-males actually fall for it

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lol

>>15880635
There's plenty of ways to get into a crash that's not your fault though. It happens all the time matey :>

>>15880637
get better at driving and then you dont have to worry about stupid fags you can just dodge them
and stop being a puss and get a bike faggot

>>15880600
If a car has seat belts it's dangerous. I only buy stuff that was made before 1967

>>15880650
>t. busrider

>>15880654
you mean skilled m3 driver

>>15880665
Questionable

>>15880665
Do you live in or commute to a large city?

I see so many shitty drivers on my way to and from work, I'm not leaving my risk to some dumb bitch texting in her toyota.

>>15880290
Vw did nothing wrong

>>15880680
they only lied a little bit

>>15880665
Nobody is impressed by your $4,000 E36 M3 or the fact you accidentally broke traction once in snow

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>>15880290
they were cheating on NOx emissions though . . .

>>15880684
They the ones that got caught, others haven't yet

>>15880882
OR they are the only ones who actually cheated!

>>15880654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55EoLTC0SdY

The American emission standards kinda don't work.

Every single one of the companies has to cheat, then when someone is getting too competitive (MY JERBS!) the fines arrive to prop up the Americonomy

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>>15880290
Who the hell cares? Id sign a deal that would kill one polar bear every time i floor it if id get 20% better economy. Idgaf.

>>15881486
Id sign a deal that would slap you in the face with a giant dildo every time I floor it if id get 20% worse economy. I like bears.

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>>15882087
My point is, some company in China will produce more toxic material than me in ~70 years of driving therefore people should stop batching about 2liter diesels that are far worse than performance gasoline cars and let alone ships, planes and companies. I work as port captain and you'd not believe me if I tell you what I see every day. There are countless cargo ships traveling under Chinese flag because they don't give a fuck about environment. 1 trip around the world and that shut wasted more fuel than all of us in this thread will in their lifetime.

>>15882785
>China will produce more toxic material than me in ~70 years
In month. In month they will do as much damage as me in my life if I driven every day for 200miles

>>15882785

Problem is every dumb fuck on this planet has his opinion.

How about "I don't know anything about it since I'm just stupid port captain and I'll let scientist and legislators deal with those questions since they're more qualified than I am" - said no one ever

>>15882870
I am 3 exams short of masters degree in geology. Theory that our system just now gotten in most transparent part of our galaxy and the fact that we are still exiting the ice age when put together make more sense than liberal propaganda which displays use of fossil fuels like some kind of satanic ritual. That makes sense because those minds can't cope with so much variables in equation so they just simplified the shit out of it. Driving diesels kills our planet. Our solar system traveling though very transparent part of galaxy which allows more energy from sun to reach us and fact that volcanic activity is peaking have nothing to do with it.

Worst that we can do is create smog over very ovulated area. Other than that we are less than drops of rain in the river.

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>>15883221
>degree in geology

Oh right, I forgot how geology and climatology are exactly the same thing...

>>15883242
Paleoclimatology is a subset of geology.

>>15883242
No, are you serious? I bet ophthalmologist couldnt stop bleeding, hes not surgeon right?

>>15882870

Legislators are about as qualified to dictate environmental protection as a bag of shit.

>>15883300
They're rarely qualified to dictate anything.

>>15880582
based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMxRfOsR69Y

>>15880290
The emissions thing is a fucking cash grab joke.

There are fucking two stroke dirtbikes running all over the fucking place here. Any issues with that? Nah.

The fucking first gen smart car had to get special dispensation from the American and Canadian governments to be sold here, why? : They simply couldn't meet emissions standards. How did they manage it? Money.

If your car doesn't pass an E-Test, you can simply pay a rather small fee and you get to keep using it.

It has NOTHING to do with emissions.
It has EVERYTHING to do with how much money you give the government.

Now, I've got a diesel boat with no cat or dpf I've got to take stateside tomorrow, once I get there, I may have to drain my bilge which has some oil in it... AND THAT'S FUCKING LEGAL... somehow.

Yay government...

>>15885775
man-made climate change is a scam

>>15885800
Man made CO emissions only account for 10 FUCKING PERCENT OF ALL CARBON EMISSIONS.

TEN MOTHER FUCKING PERCENT.

You fucking bet your ass its a scam. And it's making the government a SHIT LOAD OF CASH.

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>>15885810
>he doesn't understand how equilibrium works

>>15880290
Americans only give a shit about this because VW is a foreign company. They are a lot more forgiving of domestic companies.

>>15885816
Its not illegal to run an engine with absolutely zero emission controls.

It IS however illegal to fail to pay the government to do so.

This has fuck all to do with an "equilibrium balance" you fucking green sucking liberal twink.

>>15885834
>I'm just going to pretend to have any idea what I'm talking about

good try though

>>15885861
Refute it then, retard.

>>15885810
>HERP DERP ONLY 10 PERCENT

10 percent is a shitload. if there was 10% more salt in your body right now, you would be thirsty as fuck.

>>15885910
Then grab a fucking soda dipshit, because I'm about to enlighten your Hillary voting lard ass.

Of the global Co2 emissions of which man made sources are responsible for 10%, automotive vehicles are currently responsible for less than 10% of that.

Which means cars are responsible for less than 1% of all Co2 emissions globally.

You know what produces far more Co2 emissions than vehicles?

Breathing.

So do the world a favor, just stop breathing, so the rest of us can actually focus on the areas that are damaging the planet.

I guarantee you, recharging your nissan leaf from coal burning plants, like a good cocksucker you are, isn't going to do any of us a good goddamn thing.

But good for you, opting for an electric planet killer, you must love that cock.

>>15880290
Shouldn't it be CO

And that wasn't even the issue, the NOx was

>>15885999
Which we've made incredible strides in correcting, especially with variable timing and EGR cooling down the combustion process.

That might have been a big worry back in the 80's, but we're already on that now.

... unlike the coal plants some nissan leaf driving faggots are recharging their planet rapers from.

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>>15885986
>I don't understand numbers but I'm going to try to meme my way out of this

>>15885986
>trumpfag

sorry, I though I was conversing with someone who at least had half a brain

>>15886014
nice rebuttal cuck, a handful of ships have higher NOx, CO2 and particulate emissions than all the cars in the world
>>15886027
>voting for shillary "no-fly zone over syria" clinton

>>15886014
Good luck with that, you tranny averse lithium licking coal stuffer.

Modern automotive engines are a fucking emissions marvel compared to the rest of the industrialized tech out there.

It ain't the car that's killing the planet anymore.

... you panty sniffing chevy volt licker.

>>15886037
lel you sure are angry
I agree with you though, hence my mention of ships. They produce a really big fraction of the human produced CO2.

>>15886055
Fuck yes they do you E89 sniffing gear-to-nipple pinching knuckle dragger!

My personal boat has a diesel engine with absolutely NO emissions controls. Luckily I only use the engine to get out of port, then I sail her the rest of the way... if you have a problem with that, quite frankly that's between me, my sails, and the gallons of mayonnaise I rub on my genitalia while listening to enya on the ocean, you rubber clad sex lube recycler!

>>15886086
lmao I wasn't talking about that kind of boat, I'm talking about huge marine diesels running on heavy fuel oil
oil tankers and other cargo ships

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He knew it! THIS MOTHERFUCKER KNEW IT!

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/vw-abgasskandal/vw-skandal-winterkorn-soll-vertuschung-gebilligt-haben-14452015.html

>>15886101
That's going to take a shit tonne more mayonnaise than I have a budget for, but those intercontinental sailors are freaks, so I wouldn't put it past them.

My point is, we're focusing so hard on the automotive industry (which barely has any emissions at all now), while even the smallest marine vessels require absolutely no regulation at all.

And then you look at trains, planes, and industrial plants and it's enough to make you think the whole fucking world is about to drown in a giant mayonnaise induced orgy the likes not even Zeus himself could fathom.

... you public bathroom stall masturbating seat licker.

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IT'S NOT ABOUT THE EMISSIONS YOU STUPID FUCKS! IT'S ABOUT THEIR LIES AND CHEATING SOFTWARE!

>>15886135
Are you still talking about VW?

That's old news.

We've moved on to mother fucking mayonnaise induced floating orgies!

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>>15886135
They lied to the man, that makes me like them.

>>15886149
They likely knew it was a cash grab and failed to respect the laws accordingly.

Which is what I tend to do on my Tuesday benders... those poor midgets...

Anyone know a good cheap supplier of pet coffins?

>>15886161
Is that the new BMW?

I see they still haven't fixed that cooling issue.

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>>15886135
>company cheats to get consumers better mileage and efficiency while negligibly increasing emissions
Literally perfect

>>15886175
>butthurt VW/Audi-fanboy

>>15886188
quality meme pic, made me laugh out loud

>>15880520
>calls others kike lovers
>likes vw, literally the most kike automaker

>>15880370
The place wasn't even on their maps when allied soldiers rolled in, that's how new it was.

>>15886196
Did I mother-fucking say I like Audi or VW santorum filled shitboxes? Fuck no.

When I'm done with a long days sail, I prefer to plant my mayonnaise greased genitals firmly in the seat of a Mercedes Benz. Preferably with a soft-top so I can air the nether regions out...

... you wouldn't believe how hard it is to dry mayonnaise out of your pubes without the glorious air conditioning systems on the new 2017 mercedes lineup.

They need to make the heads up display visible when upside down though. It's rather hard to check your speed with your dick flapping around spattering mayonnaise above your head at night.

>>15886246
VW-cuck.

>>15886267
Are you implying I want to have my Mercedes fucked by a Volkswagon while I watch?

Because if that's a thing, I'm wondering if there's a market for it, and how much it pays.

>>15886271
thanks for all this funposting m8, it was being a slow night for me and you're making my night

>carbon dioxide

wasnit it NOx and particulates

Alright, that's enough for me you worm gear riding axle grease enema aficionados.

I have to get to bed. I'll think of you while I'm applying the fish oil to my nipples.

>>15882870
>scientists
yes!
>legilastors
no

>well, the giant fucking ship spewing out more smog than your whole town has to stay, because its owner is my friend, i mean, a campaign contributor, i mean, i don't know who gave me this money get off my case

>>15886271
You know that Mercedes is basically a 50% VW right?

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>>15886305
>Mercedes is basically a 50% VW

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>>15886305
Liar.

>>15886323
>uses wikipedia for "facts"

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>>15886351
How's this then you flaming autist
http://www.volkswagenag.com/content/vwcorp/content/en/brands_and_products.html

>>15886358
>based Scania is owned by VAG
shit, since when?

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>>15886367

>>15886374
damn

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>>15886305
Boi if you don't...

>>15882870
Get fucked, eco turd.

>>15885748
HOT

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>>15880290

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dont care nigga, i'll keep on driving my corrado

>>15887440
That is a nice car indeed.

Most of you retarded shits, including OP, have no idea what exactly is the point. Its not about co2, its not about environment or climate stuff, its just about nox, CO and hydrocarbons. Noone gives shit about co2, but those three toxic motherfuckers make cancer.

>>15886305
I had a great sleep, I'm refreshed and in a great mood, you camshaft deepthroating twinks.

No a Mercedes is not even remotely similar, in parts or design to a god damn liberal dick sucking Volkswagen.

The Daimler auto group consists of Mercedes Benz, Maybach, Freightliner, Fuso, Smart, and affiliations with others including Mclaren, and at one time Mercedes was partnered with Chrysler... just long enough to steal the sprinter line from them.

Mercedes does not use parts from, nor share designs with Volkswagen, they were terrible guests at the lube party... they had no problem eating the fucking party platters, but when the drugs and tranny midgets came out they decided we were too "weird" for them.

Can you believe that shit? We even bought the good fucking mayonnaise.

Fuck Volkswagen.

More mayonnaise for us.

>>15888051
>you camshaft deepthroating twinks.
what did he mean by this?

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Who here found a cheap TDI after dieselgate broke and snatched that shit up?

>mfw I got basically a brand new car for half of what it cost when it was bought new a year ago
>mfw I get 50mpg
>mfw I don't give a fuck about the EPA

>>15889137
absolutely based
ecocucks can keep their low mpg cars if they wish

>>15885986
>grab a soda

I am sorry about your weight, but with the proper diet, I am sure you can shed some pounds, anon-kun!

>>15889011
What do YOU think it meant you ecotec riding yodeler?

>>15889231
Listen here you AdBlue crystal chewing pube licker, the only thing wrong with MY weight is that it's off center due to my massive right arm from years of uncontrollable masturbation to hairy midget tranny porn.

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>>15880635
not sucking ass at driving can prevent women ?