Truckerfag Thread - Safety Edition

Old bread http://boards.4chan.org/o/thread/15832407/

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Didn't *quite* manage a full eminem.
But I followed him on to the freeway. In california.
With his tandems all the way back.
With the pins unlocked.
Running over a curb at every turn.

At least he doesn't have to worry about the cajon pass scale...

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>>15875503
Pic related.

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why do americans hate axles?
>9 axles
>25M
>50T
bigger is better

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We hourly pro

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>>15875547
U wot?

>>15875645
Sure, I meant general freight though

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>>15875547
Why do Anglos hate building better roads that don't require a million wheels to stay intact?

>18 wheels on 8 axles
>also 25 metres
>60t (132,000 lbs)

Especially the Murrikans are ridiculous with 18 wheels for 36 tonne trucks on their prissy ass roads.

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>>15875547
Bruh

>>15875669
woah I didn't know Americans used road trains

>>15875665
I guess cause theres less money in NZ to build roads with

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>>15875677
Generally only the western states do, and the Canadians do.

>>15875677
It's not a road train. Those are pup trailers.

>>15875688
So it's the same length as those big box trailers?

>>15875687
Video related, only legal on a single highway between two Canadian cities iirc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz6X-xteCWM

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>Scandinavia already running road trains
>even the crammed fucking Netherlands are running road trains now
>Germany stuck in testing phase for the last TEN years
>mfw we'll never get road trains because retards keep striking them down for WAAAH THEY'RE SO BIG I'M SCARED and THEY'LL INCREASE TRAFFIC EVEN THOUGH THEY'LL DECREASE IT

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>>15875665
Because our highway system was spec'd out and built when the average truck looked like this

>>15875861
You'd think that every bit of highway would've been renovated at least once in the last fifty years, but I suspect you guys would rather start driving down dirt interstates than raise your taxes a little.

>>15875890
ha, most states can barely keep ahead of maintenance

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>bobtail waiting on load last night
>"let us know when you have an empty"
>o...k...
>sit around drop yard for 16 hours.
>finally an empty comes in
>wait two more hours for load
>load offer: pick up loaded trailer from drop lot

>>15876018
Honest question - how do you guys let it get so bad?
If any del/pickup takes more than 2 hours, you better believe my dispatch is gonna hear about and get that waiting time pay clock started. And if it's a trailer drop etc, dispatch has until my break to find me a trailer or we're discussing me coming back via bobtail.

I'm not trying to be a dick or give my dispatch a hard time - in civil with them and I'm friends with a few outside work. But when he comes to work, if you don't take your time srsly, no one else will.

>>15875687
Out here in Ontario, the maximum I've seen is a double 53'.

>>15875338
Based tf always dropping knowledge (re: answering the o/o questions in previous thread)
Btw - I got a lvl 3 inspection and on my logs, I hadn't changed back to drive from a break. Inspection page said that. But no ticket. That's normal.... Right? This happened in MI.

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>>15875696
I've seen coop do that one time i believe between Saskatoon and regina, but i believe he was probably empty. most megas pull 2 53' trailers down the #1 highway, but only ab, sk, mb and Ontario i believe allow it. iirc part of bc you can pull 2 53' trailers but I could be wrong. Quite often though I see a 53' and pup, 2 pups, or even 3 pups, but i believe most of those are restricted to certain highways. However many companies pull the Super b configuration, including the company I drive for.
pic related of course

>>15876318
B-dubs best dubs, dat stability.

We do 53ft doubles on the new york thruway

>>15874558
So is $1.15 average? Or is that for van/reefers? Hard to believe the slammed stretched stainless steel reefer pulling long nose petes I see are only making $.25/mi

>>15875890
You'd think that, but you'd be wrong. There's 50,000 miles of highway in the US (just in the Eisenhower Interstate system, not including the other federal and state highways), and the vast majority of it is long, rural, low-traffic sections through the BFE that only truckers ever see. It's huge. Adjusted for inflation, the original Eisenhower interstate system is literally the most expensive public works project ever completed in the history of the world - roughly 70 times the cost of various proposals for manned space missions to Mars. The only reason we're able to keep such an expansive system in operation is because of those cheap 1950's-era construction standards. Rebuilding the whole interstate system to a higher level, coast-to-coast, would likely bankrupt the country. To increase the weight bearing capacity of a road, you have to dig up the entire roadbed and build a new one, starting deeper and wider, to serve as a foundation.

While most urban/suburban highways have been rebuilt as part of various expansion projects, rural sections are mostly still just a thin layer of resurfacing on top of the original roadbed.

Whenever there's extra tax money for roads, our politicians always prioritize highway expansion over maintenance. They like having those new roads & lanes in the suburbs to point at when they're running for re-election - filling potholes is not sexy at all. That's how we end up with new shiny bypass highways and full-stack interchanges, while lowest-bidder bridges from the 1950's are left to rot until they collapse.

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>>15876654
>paying Americans to do work in America will bankrupt the country
Can't be any worse than the billions of dollars you fucks flush to China every year in exchange for various cheaply made crap.

>>15876788
>implying us burgers want to work

>>15876596
They do those on the state toll roads here in FL too. Mainly the Turnpike but then they can hit the Sawgrass and some other ones too. There are a couple random lots where they drop em right off the highway. Lots of McLane, McD's, Sysco too I think. Food placed with bug distros further north.

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>take picture while loading
>it didn't focus properly
well fuck

>>15876788
Bankrupt the government, not the people, but yeah, our politicians believe that infrastructure work is basically the same as flushing money down the toilet. But even if they didn't, good luck selling them on
>redistribution of wealth
especially if it's directed towards the working class.

>>You will get fat.
I lost a lot of weight after becoming a trucker. But I do see a lot of people eating constantly, especially them night drivers trying to stay awake.

>>The only clothing you'll own are pajamas.
I prefer sweat pants and basketball shorts.

>>The only reason you get paid well is because you work 70 hours per week.
I drive maybe 2,000 miles a week and spend 1/4 to 1/2 of days being lazy. Hardly ever run my max hours unless it's my week for home time and I want to make up for 2 days.

>>The longest relationship you'll get is 15 minutes with a lizard.
I rented my house out to a woman in the Military because I was gone every 2-3 weeks. We eventually started going out and got married. Feels good.

>>Eating nothing is better than roller dogs.
Always keep back up food. Tuna, spaghetti and meatballs, etc.

>>You have the most dangerous job in the nation.
Statistically, not even close.

>>The D.O.T., Police, and Le'dash-uh in receiving hate you, and will harass you every chance they get.
You must be an asshole to them. I get free shit all the time running reefer.

>>Door swinging is for children.
And Mexicans

>>Professionals don't wear flipflops and shorts.
You've never seen a rich guy then.

>>Other drivers hate you.
They can kiss my ass. I try my best to be respectful on the road.

>>Your job will be obsolete once self-driving trucks become available.
Autonomous != self driving. Autonomous vehicles require an operator, and are already on the road in Nevada. No jobs lost.

>>Your loved ones miss you.
I miss them too.

>>If you don't change careers you will forever be considered a cuck and a homo. Especially if you cuckbox with another fag driver.
Never heard this meme before, but 2/10 for effort.

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>>15876909

>>15876909
>The jokes
>Your head
Hello newfriend.

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>>15876318
You would be correct. I think it's between Chilliwack, up to Merrit and Kelowna.

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How do I get over the anxiety of NYC? Been with a mega company since I started and they never made us go out of our comfort zone. I just got hired to a smaller company because my pay will increase by 60% and they say drivers go to NYC 1-2 times a month.

>>15877007
Yeah, I thought it was strictly over the coq but I wasn't positive

>>15877042
short answer? you tighten that anus and go.
semi long answer. you keep the knowledge that you can only go a mile from any highway in nyc and try very VERY hard to prove that every stop in NYC is in-fact a mile and a half from any highway.
>>15876018
whenever i got that id wait 5 minutes and say no empties available,then id get out and check for empties usually by the time ive either found an empty or confirmed there are none they have something setup.

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>>15876987
>tfw we have enough thread culture to bewilder our new friends

/tf/ board when?

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>>15877506

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Anybody heard of the Online Transport Training in Indiana?

http://driveforonline.com/jobs/training/

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>>15877506
>>15877515

any tips/video references i can use for all types(alley/offset/etc.) of docking?

>>15877650
Videos won't teach you a damn thing. Gotta get out there behind a wheel.

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>>15877506

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>>15877664

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>>15877515
ty bby didnt have this one

>>15877575
U_L_T_R_A
d.a.n.k.

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>>15877672

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>>15877677
pls delete old

i fixed ;)

>>15877663
Fuck, i've been getting a feel for it albeit slowly so i guess i'll keep at it then

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>>15877042
Know the truck routes before you go in.

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>>15877830
>JFK airport will be providing 44 parking spots for tractor trailer
>44 parking spots
>fourty_four

g-gee t-thanks mister de blasio

What's the highest paying division for O/O's looking for percentage pay rather than mileage? I have experience in van and reefer. Could get a job for tanker or flatbed a year to get experience if they pay more before going O/O. Thinking of buying a cheap used truck so I have no truck payment. How much could I expect to make if I went home every other weekend for 2-3 days? Aren't Truckerfag and PepsiFag O/Os? Any tips? Prefer to live on the east coast near the beach. Virginia, North Carolina, or Florida.

>>15878053
TF, EF, and a couple others whose names escape me. Pepsi is a company driver.

>>15878053
Don't expect to get richer by becoming an O/O. I became an O/O and stayed at the same company. Only made $300-400 more a week after expenses than I made company driver. Experiences may vary, but that's my $0.02. I'd love to find a good company to work for getting paid by percentage. That way I can set my own schedule and do what I want.

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>>15877911
44 more than most city governments provide.

At these rates, there shouldn't be any trouble finding a space.

>>15878220
just

>what are you doing to be more safe?

Started driving in jeans instead of gym shorts because they made it too easy to fap on long stretches of highway

>>15877830
Doesn't look bad. What's so hard about NYC?

Could anyone provide tips and/or insight into backing for me? Failed my road test solely because I couldn't back within the 10 minutes. Was told set up is everything, but had a hard time visualizing with just pylons. Thanks

>>15878053

Some rule of thumb.

Apply to companies that hire ONLY owner operators. You don't want to be competing against company drivers.

Apply to a company where you are your own dispatcher. You will have to look at a "load board" yourself and choose what loads you want and how often. You are paid a percentage of the mileage. This is what makes or breaks a O/O and can be successful if you run efficiently. I know guys that will drive for 2-3 weeks and then take off a week, making six figures.

I know Mercer is a good company if you don't mind doing heavy haul and flat bed. Know of some people averaging more than $2.00/mile GROSS after Mercer takes their cut.

>>15878574
Get a better trainer. If they can't teach somebody how to back, then they shouldn't be a trainer. It's not hard at all. Just take it slow. Straight backing is easy. Just look at your mirrors. If you see the trailer turning in your left side mirror, turn the wheel left to 9-10 o clock than straighten back out, and vice versa.

>>15878511
Ask whiney

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>>15878853

Whiney is ded

https://www.wired.com/2016/09/feds-just-got-real-self-driving-cars-time/

>SOON

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Why do Americans put their headache racks on the truck instead of the trailer?

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>>15878765
Straight backing I'm ok with, but for the test it was pic related

>>15880040
Ah yeah that one's a bitch. I got lucky, at the school I went to, the lot was concrete slabs, and we figured out if our tires crossed a certain line in the pavement a certain way, we'd nail it every time.

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Just waitin' for dispatch

>>15880395

Who's a good boy, over

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Hauling my first coils today boys. Picking up at 4PM. I hope I don't kill anyone.

>>15879484
American truckers may work for 5 different contractors in a month's time. You never know what kind of trailers you'll be towing. It's nice to have one on the truck in case you're towing pic related.

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>>15880540
forgot pic
>inb4 moron

>>15880524
Post pics when loaded

>>15880821
Go away

>>15879484

Probably more secure to bolt them right into the frame, plus it puts the weight ahead of the drives as well. Then you can hang your own chains and shit off it as well.

>>15880524
Can you make a living hauling coils? Can you make a living hauling overweight, but not oversize things?

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>>15878511
Try driving around Chicago too. You will learn to love trains.

My friend used to live near some 12' clearance train tracks off North Ave or something and almost everyday he was taking pics of a truck that got stuck.

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>>15879484
Mostly so we can hoist our fat burger guts onto the trailer via the catwalk instead of doing any real climbing

Are the dash cams sold at loves worth a shit?

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>>15881062

It's good money if you're hauling heavies. I don't accept any coil loads under $2.25/mile. My costs are around $0.75/mile but it's just a pain in the ass.

>>15881406
Holy shit. And that front axle slid all the way up should be helping it too.

It would be sweet to have a little 25' flatbed and just haul coils and other heavy loads all day.

>>15877042
I drive in NYC daily bridges are marked 1foot under so 12'6 can fit a 13'6 truck

Hourly master race here, about to buy a truck for 10k. How do I go about getting loads? What sites?

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>>15881406
Fukken saved
>>15881438
Now that is some grade A quality trolling.

>>15875547
Tell that to trucks in Michigan.

>>15881423

Making a living off hauling coils? Must have bigger balls than oil riggers. I've seen one probably 40K lbs turn a F 150 into a pancake. My gut sinks every time I see some noobie Maverick/Melton driver chaining up coils. Know to stay off their route.

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>>15881592
I know my company makes us stop every 150 miles to check them, but I think that's a law for any flatbed load. I've never had one come loose because I know how to secure them properly. But now 90% of drivers are coming out of these 3 week meme company training programs having no clue what they are doing, and dispatch sends them to haul a 30,000 steel coil through Chicago.

>>15881577
Do they really get loose and fall off that often?

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Can you see the fear in his eyes?

>>15881618
>TF in the passenger seat
Damn you weren't kidding when you said the money was making you lazy. Kek

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>>15881664
Thanks asshat

I've posted enough stuff with truck numbers on it anyway

>>15876788
as an American, I can confirm that our highway system is as/more retarded than it sounds

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>get email from recruiter for small company

"And when we say "home weekends," we don't mean two days per week. We mean an actual weekend, SATURDAY and SUNDAY."

When will rednecks ever learn math?

Just waking up and did a dab about to shower and go see about fixing my ps4

>>15881510
Cleary you have never been to new york, they mark the bridges 1 foot low for "snow pack"

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>>15881577
I like my loads like my sex partners.

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>>15881438
>be me first time in nyc
>i95s
>late night, pretty easy going, following a couple other trucks, starting to relax
>see bridge, other trucks go under
>see clearance
>13ft...wait !#FT!?!
>are those trucks shorter than me? are the signs wrong? this is an interstate right?
>decide fuckit no way all those trucks wereless than 13ft
>aaaahhhhhhhhhh
You'd think someone would have mentioned that NYC trolls new truckers to me at some point

>>15881713
My impression of that is that some companies will have you work 5 days a week with 2 consecutive days off as a "weekend," but they may be on Tues/Wed or something. Having Sat/Sun off is likely the most attractive 2 days of a week to have off.

>>15881713
I get weekends off but it isn't so great. Sometimes I don't get in until late Saturday afternoon and I leave early Monday morning. Or if I somehow manage to get in Friday night I'll leave Sunday morning. It ends up being a very short weekend, sometimes it's only 34 hours which I end up mostly sleeping away. If you think you'll be walking in your door early Friday afternoon and starting your week at 8:00 Monday morning you will be disappointed.

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>>15881618
>you will never choke on the cock of this literally perfect human being

Best advice for losing weight on the road?

Obviously, eating at every Pilot/Loves is not an option. Maybe Subway is good, but otherwise all they have is shitty Arbys/MacDonalds/Wendys.

>>15882032
Make your own damned food. When you stop at a pilot, grill your own burgers, steaks, or chicken, anything with protein. Stay away from the cars.

>>15881476
I'll give you $2k for that truck when you realize you're in over your head.

>>15881611
It used to be a law. Now it's just illegal for securement to be loose.

>>15881612
You didn't make it out to Gary, IN much, did you? Almost twice a week there's a coil on the ground somewhere in that shit hole.

>>15882032
If you aren't driving or sleeping you need to be standing or walking. Get a refrigerator and a stove and a 2 quart pot and 8" pan (those are the bare minimum). Propane stoves are more economical since you can fill the 2lb bottles off a 20lb at home, but butane stoves are more compact and usually have better temperature control. GET A FOOD THERMOMETER. Get a bike rack bolted to the catwalk and bike to go shopping. Buying fresh ingredients daily will give you exercise and reduce spoilage.

Don't fuck up like me and start cooking like a lard ass. I'm about to fire up the grill and get some katsu-curry going that I was too tired to make yesterday and had pita and hummus for dinner instead. I was planning on salmon and zucchini tonight, but that's going to have to wait because my pork has been in the fridge for 4 days now.

>>15882725
Haha wrong I'm the guy currently running the concrete pump so it will be pretty easy for a man with my knowledge/skills

I have a question.

Why do you use the thinnest, weakest and most precarious boards when stacking loads between pipe stakes?

Got Internet installed in my house today. Keep telling my friends that I'm happy with 500-700kbps down and they think im fucking nuts. As long as it works that all I give a shit about. Gotta play my WoW!

>>15881738
And here's the threadly wordpukebot post.

>>15881804
>You'd think someone would have mentioned that NYC trolls new truckers to me at some point

Well, for someone to have told you about the height sign trolling, they would first have had to know their height.

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These out of state drivers can't even make it through the cross bronx

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>>15883218

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Ayyy, we cooking.

>>15882968
Stripping uses shitty little boards to keep the center of gravity low. A 5 row strip with 4x4's adds 10" to the height of the load, making it difficult to build a bulkhead if needed.

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>>15883218

>>15883243
Then surely it would be better to use strong, robust and squared off 4x4 that cover the width of your trailer instead of driftwood that washes up on the shores of the Texas Gulf?

I am convinced the Port of Houston gets all dunage and boarding from the beach.

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>>15883218

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>>15883218

>>15883267
The type of wood you're talking about is over $10/board. For wood that gets used once or twice that's extra thousands of dollars a day they're using.

>>15883361
Do you ever make your way towards North Carolina?

>>15882725
>Gary, IN
Nope. I try and avoid Indiana at all costs. That place is a shithole.

>>15882839
.......AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>15883290
penske hino?

Seems to be a lot of flatbed fags in here. I'm looking to O/O. What type of trailer should I buy to get the most loads? Flat bed? Step up?

>>15883501
Correcto shitbox for Manhatten

>>15883361
There is literally wood lying over every yard in America.

>>15882032
Just listen to Kevin Rutherford and eat a Keto/Paleo diet and you will shed weight like crazy. I went from 250 to 180 in 5 months.

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>spend $4K on school
>spent close to 8 weeks training with actual docks, lanes, etc.
>one of the best students in the class
>get to DMV for road skills test
>all these cones
>how the fuck am I supposed to reference these little orange cones
>end up failing

I hate this fucking shit. Couldn't they at least paint the parking lot instead of using cones? It would be so much easier.

>>15881686
where'd you manage to find a 8 series cornbinder with that window in the passenger side door? Is that custom

>>15883447
I think I hit Raleigh once last year.

>>15883587
Depends. Specialized equipment is specialized. Can't load much over 8' tall on a flatbed, and can't load much from a dock on a stepdeck. A stepdeck with ramps is probably the most versatile, but pull those ramps out once and you'll never find a load paying enough to use them again.

>>15883796
It's usually there for a reason. Either the yard bought it for their inventory, or drivers threw it off because it wasn't worth keeping.

>>15884336
You'd be lucky to have cones in the real world. Should gave taken a course that was instructed on the test route.

>>15884768
Looks bone stock to me.

>>15884768
The little triangle window? All those old 8100s and 4900s have that window. It's nice because they actually open all the way so on a hot day you can make it funnel 60mph air right at you.

>>15884336
I had it easy. They would have the testing people from the state come to our yard every Monday and do it there. On the 90deg backing part, there was a little dip in the ground right where the trailer wheels would go when you were at "0" so when I was taking the test I would just get it to the "6" or "3" mark, drop it in N, and let it roll a couple ft into the "0" mark.

>>15884841
I think I asked before, where did you get your CDL? IL, right? Did you do it in Champaign or further north?

>>15884861
Also good for leaving unlocked so if you happen to lock yourself out.

Yes..

>>15881686
Why even bother deleting it?

4plebs have it anyway

Is $1.80/mile operating costs too high (including driver pay of $0.75/mile)? The fleet average GROSS income at Mercer is like $1.90/mile or something somebody told me but then others say they've never had a year less than $2/mile.

I could lower the driver pay if I didn't want to take so much home time, but that's really the only reason I want to buy a truck. Still take $60K/year myself before taxes but not be a slave driving 3,000 miles a week earning 1 day off every x days bullshit.

>>15884960
Kek, that actually happened to me in a newer International and I was lucky I left that triangle window open. Those ones only open like 2" or 3". Our trailers have a detachable handle for the landing gear so I grabbed the handle and was able to stick it through the window and roll down the main window with it.

>>15884976
How fast do those sites copy everything? Just curious how they run, if they update it like a second after a post goes up or if they update every 5-10min or something.

>>15885030
I have deleted a pic as soon as 4chan would allow and 4plebs had it indexed by then.

>>15883484
Excuse me

Why do old bastards hate tarping? I see people turn down $2.60/mile loads to a good location because they require tarping? When I was a company driver, it was company policy to tarp anything and everything whether required or not, so I got used to it. You snooze you lose. Load only weighed 16K lb and I got good gas mileage. Treat myself to a fancy dinner.

Same thing also goes with coils. Always see people turn them down. Being picky then complain they are broke and blame it on whatever company they're leased to. Breaks my heart that these retards are tarnishing the reputation of trucking.

If you want to make good money trucking, just get a flatbed. Nothing but pussy crybabies turning down good loads because it's hard work.

>>15885792
They turn them down because they expect them to pay what they did 15-20 years ago. They cannot grasp the fact that supply and demand runs the market, and think they're entitled to the huge pay loads because they been out there longer. I know what my costs are and know immediately when a load comes up on the board if the GROSS pay will be enough and if the destination is a good location or not. I don't sit around waiting for $3 dollar loads because I have a mortgage, $3,000 truck payment, etc. and don't know what my real costs are, so assume I can only take $3 loads and make money. Then bitch and moan because I got stuck sitting for 3 days. Just retire already. I take what is available and when I get $2.60 loads like today, it's a bonus.

>>15885830
>They cannot grasp the fact that supply and demand runs the market,

Don't forget all the undercutting that has been going on.

>>15886160
aka supply and demand

More trucks than loads out there anon. All the laid off oil riggers getting into trucking. All the felons and deadbeats that join company training programs. Dry van is a joke. Flatbed hasn't been too infested with cancer, but the rates are lower than they were. Still no reason to complain about. I only work 2-3 weeks a month and make my $3K/month goal after taxes and expenses. Just gotta know some lanes and agents. I mostly haul steel but will always take a random load once a week or so just to get me someplace where the good loads are. That $2.60 load made me a $586.32 bonus after operating costs which includes my standard pay. Usually put bonus money like that in an escrow/buffer account so if shit ever happens, I'm not stuck taking money out of my take home pay or anything else. I see people paying their mortgage with their truck maintenance savings because they can't budget properly, then their transmission gets BTFO and they got no money for either.

>>15886207
And then blame their company they lease with or "the industry collapsing" on their mental retardation.

>>15886231
Had lunch next to this company driver. He was complaining about every god damn thing. He can only idle during certain temperatures. He don't get paid for miles if he drives off route. His truck don't have an APU. He has a front facing driver cam. He can't get home time every day. I mean god damn nigger you signed up for a OTR job, did you do no research at all? I told him trucking isn't for him, refilled my drink, and left. Can't stand faggots these days complaining about small shit. Have your load come loose from high winds and spill over on the highway potentially killing someone. Then complain about how stressed out you are.

>>15884841
ive driven a few 8 series trucks when i was a garbage man and ive yet to see that anywhere. Fastest rusting trucks ever

>>15884894
Champaign. I think the yard skills course is a furniture store now.

>>15885008
It's about $0.40- $0.70/mi higher than normal, but I'm sure most with a massive truck payment are right up around there.

You have to be careful aping allot others numbers because some calculate based on loaded miles, and some on all miles. If you're running on percentage it's best to calculate on net/day rather than cpm.

>>15885792
Why take $2.60/mi tarped when you can get $3/mi untarped? Load I'm on now is $4.14/mi untarped and I only took it because it was the only thing loading on a Saturday that wasn't going to bumfuck PA.

>>15885830
>more trucks than loads
>he's actually never seen a loadboard
>he doesn't know the load:truck ratio has been between 8:1 and 40:1 all year
>implying load:truck ratio has any impact on rates
Wew lad.

>>15886207

Flatbed is relatively safe because you need more then 1 brain cell to safely secure a load. In my area at least, moving liquids outside of milk pays stupid good. There's one guy I talked to who has his own small trucking company, but he just cant quit driving for them because the pay is so good.

>>15885792
You would be surprised how many people can't into ratchet straps

>>15884841
If for any reason you hit the wilmington area in the next 9 months you should hit me up

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Hey doorswingers,
My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-tarps who spend every second of their day backing into stupid ass docks. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever thrown any tarps? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun taking in in the rear, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than taking your break in the fuel island.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the tarping team, and starter on my strapping squad. What sports do you play, other than “dumping piss bottles in the pilot parking lot”? I also get straight tarps’s, and have a banging hot tarp (I just threw her; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It’s me and my tarp

>>15887655
den oudda den

>>15887108
You did it through the college? Parkland?

>>15887108
Are you under your own authority? I was thinking of buying a truck and signing on to Landstar or Mercer. Had people show me screenshots of their loadboards and I didn't see anything paying that well. Is it worth being an O/O if you don't have your own connections?

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>>15875338
Has the plauge of frogs infested tfag threads as well? For shame.

>>15888190

>$100 tarping

kek. I've never been paid less than $250.

>>15888133
Also, how do you determine how much you get paid for a load?

Say a 700 mile load pays $2.25/mile. That's $1,575 GROSS. Your operating cost is $1/mile and you have a 150 mile deadhead to the place. So would that be 1,575/850 = $1.85/mile, or $0.85/mile NET after expenses? Am I doing this correctly?

>>15887655
>not shooping TF face onto it

Could have been a 10/10, but without that bearded chubby cheeked face it's only a 7/10.

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>>15889030

>>15881953
I know dem feels

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New flatbed trucker here. Fuck dry van bow tie elitist landing gear monkeys that never break a sweat. If you don't throw chains, roll tarps, strap loads, you ain't a trucker.

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>>15890095
It's ironic how you call dry van drivers elitists, then make that remark about flatbedders. Looks like we got another redneck hypocrite lowering the average IQ of trucking. Sigh

>>15890075
go away pls

>>15889606
You're doing gods work, anon

>>15888190
Most of the time the Broker will require you to tarp it when there is no need to do so, it is only to get him more coin. If it is steel, find out what kind. When you pick it up, if it lies outside it is going to be left outside, i does nto need to be tarped.

>>15890396

Shippers try to rip you off too. They lie about weight more often then not. 20k load and you get there and they start loading 40k on it. Then they give you the "I paid for a truckload" excuse. I tell them they better take that shit off the trailer. They try pulling the same shit with tarping. Go to a no tarp load and they say it needs to be tarped. Are you going to pay for it? No, then fuck off. Barely been O/O for a year and I already have a 2 page fuck off list full of shippers.

>>15890152
>Sigh

Is hating on zf a meme?

>>15890521
Got an old trucker friend with tons of those stories.
His favorite:
>get a cheap load that's listed as 12,000# and less than a third of his trailer (reefer)
>it's barely profitable but will take him through an area where he can pick up another load for the rest of his trailer
>loading is taking longer than it should, truck is bouncing pretty hard
>he goes in to ask what's up, looks in his trailer and sees it's 2/3 full and they're still loading it
>asks the clerk, who tells him it's 44,000# full truckload
>goes back to his truck to talk to the broker, who acts surprised
>he tells the broker they need to triple the rate and give him another $500 for pissing off the shipper he was going to load at next when he cancels.
>says they can't do that
>he says he's not pulling the load then
>broker says he doesn't blame him
>he goes back inside, tells the clerk to take that freight off his trailer
>she tells him it's out of his hands, they set this load up with his company and it's loaded, he needs to take the bills and leave. If he has a problem talk to his dispatcher about it, she really doesn't care
>he says take that fucking freight off my trailer or I'm going to dump it on your lot
>she asks if he's stupud and tells him to call his dispatcher, because she's going to call his company and probably get him fired
>he says go ahead
>she calls
>his cell phone rings
>"MY truck. MY trailer. Get your FUCKING cheap freight off my FUCKING trailer"

True? Dunno. But he tells that story all the time.

>>15890730
Only in the sense that hating on "I'm a girl btw" sluts is a meme.

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>>15890730

she's tfags personal cum dumpster so you be the judge of that.

>>15890790
>she calls
>his phone rings

God I fucking love that. I lease through a company so they usually call the agent. I would love to have a shipper go off of me saying they will get me fired then my phone answers in front of them. That's why I do mostly military loads now. They don't try to fuck you over. I only take a steel/lumber load when I want to head home and there's not much else. Fuck taking salvage loads. Will leave your trailer fucked up more than it's worth.

>>15890790
probably at least 50% true only time ive dealt with third party brokers for nonsense they were pretty quick to remove product and not as stupid as that clerk. that being said ive met clerks like that. and have left trailers 4 feet from the dock for that kind of nonsense. if the freight don't match the paper the freight don't move.

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Starting CDL school today. Dis gon b gud.

>>15891833

Enjoy sitting in a classroom for 2 weeks. Try not to fall asleep. When I went to school (company training program), they would walk out anyone that constantly yawned or definitely if they fell asleep. "If you can't stay awake during this class, how can you stay awake on the road? It's even more boring."

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My Father has been leased on to Mercer since 1998. I wan to do the same.

Age 22 (now): Somehow come up with money to get CDL
Age 23: Start driving flatbed for a company, or team up with my Dad. I'd rather not to that. We'd argue a lot.
Age 25: Have $50-60K saved up to get my own truck and some working capital. Get leased on at Mercer. Only have ~$150/week personal expenses for food, cell phone, etc. Dad will help me estimate my cost per mile and business plan.
Age 27-28: Have $100-150K in the bank. Spend $25-35K on a camper, $50K on a boat, and $10-15K on a beater truck. Have almost no personal costs. Work 2-3 weeks a month and fish. Take vacations to Thailand to get HIV and die young and happy

If fail, be company driver, save up $150K, buy a cheap house, and be a wageuck with tail tucked between legs for rest of life.

Is this a realistic plan?

>>15892070

You'll never make it at Mercer or anywhere being O/O if you can't make your own decisions.

>>15891913
Jokes on them I've had my breakfast coke this morning.

>>15892192
Yee

>>15892200
checked

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yeah its me from russia, fucking 2ch is private board now.

>>15893411
Truly, Russia is a magical place.

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>>15893411
>tfw trucks in russia are more 'merrican than trucks in america

>>15893411
Also, I just now noticed the Western Star Coronado kek

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>>15893425
Is looking apocalyptic required for existence in Russia?

>>15892070
Go for it. I rent the basement of a family member's house for $350/month, utilities included. My personal costs are right around $1,000. I'm currently a company driver though working 14 days out 3 days home. I would love to buy my own truck soon and lease on to something like Mercer. I could probably NET my living costs in a week or so and be comfy.

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Question to the Aussiem8s, why do all your doubles start with semi tractors and never with straight trucks? I'd think you'd have a better chance on muddy dirt roads if you had a straight truck with more powered axles up front, either 6x6 or 8x6. Pic related, all the possible combinations of long trucks in select European countries.

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>>15893704
It just seems to happen over there.

>>15894114
Semi trucks are more versatile, fifth wheels are stronger.
The roads are built specifically to handle semi trucks. It's not just a dirt track, it's just a dirt surface that's cheaper to maintain than a proper paved road, and has the advantage of not melting under the unrelenting sun.

>>15892070
I'm betting money that you are going to have many more expenses than you anticipate in your little plan. Remember you need to insure that boat and camper and shit. Life isn't as cheap and simple as "$150/wk expenses". Just go with the flow and try to learn and buy your own truck. In 5 years you might have a girl and a kid and want to spend that money on a downpayment for a house.

What you want at 22 and what you will want at 27 are two totally different things.

>>15893411
So what? Did they shut the site down or something? All the commies are in my fishing thread.

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>>15895564

Pretty similar to what I expect when "shipper tarps, no tarp pay"

>>15895534
Boat insurance would be ~$100/month
Truck insurance + gas would be ~$250/month
Camper insurance
There would be no need in buying insurance for the camper because it sits permanently in the campground and camper insurance here only covers damage while being towed. However the campground may have their own insurance. My Grandparents own a camper there and I love going there.

$150/week expenses are personal, not for O/O expenses.

I would never trust any woman these days being away from home for longer than a day yet alone weeks at a time. I don't want kids. Having a niece is enough kids for me.

>>15890790
My problem with the story is that as an o/o why wasn't he out on the dock verifying the product count, condition, and load plan? You can get away with being lazy as a company ape but that shit'll bite you in the ass as an o/o.

>>15892070
Lol hard as fuck to save that much cash unless you're making 100k a year minimum

>>15887757
Yep. Program was run by Premier. Just saw one of their trucks the other day.

>>15888133
No. I'm leased onto a company with a model similar to those two but with higher percentage and no restriction to a single loadboard.

>>15888755
Gross is pay/miles. Net is (pay x %) - fuel - fixed costs/miles, this factoring net pay by the mile is a bit obscure. Net is net since that's what's hitting your bank account.

>>15890095
>never break a sweat
>landing gear
Have you never seen a trucker before?

>>15890396
>anon doesn't tarp aluminum billet
>drives through a snowstorm
>sunny afternoon then a cold night
>arrive at the consignee with a 45k ice block
>4k forklift
Good luck with that, buddy.

>>15890521
>rate con says 42k
>crane operator throws 5 bundles on and says I'm done
>BOL says 20k
>onboard scale says 12k
>receiver pulls all 5 bundles off in one pick with a 5ton crane
If you don't want to run heavy, then don't book truckload freight. Only time I make a call is loading LTL when the dimensions are off enough to bump the next load off the trailer, and even then, half the time it's not the broker or the loader's fault so I'm not going to be a dick about it. Pick up $50- $150 every time it happens on a CLE-CHI lane and you'll even out on miles and fuel pretty easily.

>>15890790
Brokers don't even believe I'm the driver half the time, so it's plausible. Reefer is well known for that kind of faggotry.

>>15892070
Trucking is a great way to make a small fortune as long as you start with a large fortune.

>>15896637
It's reefer. Who stands at a dock for 4 hours?

>>15896637
What is SLC

>>15897120
Mind naming the company? I too was thinking of leasing on to Mercer with my Uncle's step deck that sits in a barn since he's running tanker in southeast all the time. But they don't have good freight west of I-35 it seems. I like to stay out coast to coast enjoying the scenery. Mercer seems to be more shorter loads triangle routes back home so to speak.

>>15897210
Farm2Fleet

>>15897210
I meant southwest. He'd be an hero running tanker in southeast.

>>15897120
His other favorite story
>loading ice cream
>gets four pallets put on
>they go to lunch
>they never resume loading
>he goes in every 30 minutes to ask what the hell
>"oh we're short handed we'll get to you"
>three hours later all the cars leave the lot
>he goes back in
>there's a couple people in the office but the docks are empty and dark
>"yeah we ran out of time, we'll finish loading you when we open again in the morning"
>calls the broker
>asks if they understand that they will be paying him $2,000 to wait overnight
>he has always had a clause in his contract stating that the BROKER will pay $150 per hour detention after 2 hours
>most just sign without reading, this one did as well. Rarely does he have to send his other contract.
>broker says it ain't happening
>he says it will most definitely happen, and he needs an express code for $500 for time already spent before he waits another minute
>he gives the broker one hour to call him back with the express code
>at the one hour mark, he pulls off the dock, shoves the four pallets off his trailer and leaves.
>the shipper invoiced the broker for the pallets
>the broker sued him
>he counter sued for detention
>the broker lost
>he won

He says that's one of 3 times in 20 years where he actually went to court. The others were just brokers straight up not paying him at all.

>>15897220

Do they pay IFTA for you in that 20% cut? Mercer does.

>>15897236
I ain't TF, son. I was just letting you know what company he's with.

>>15897254

I don't read tripcodes. They should all say Anonymous.

F2F doesn't have a good reputation. Seems they have cash flow issues on paying operators.

If my broski gets his CDL does team drive get more pay?

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toasting muh trug

>>15897273
What a sad lot of land my man why don't you grow some corn or something

>>15897232
That one's more believable.
>>15897267
Never heard TF complain about that.
>>15897268
Less per mile, more overall 'cause you each get paid for all the miles the truck moves. You probably won't be friends for long though. A 6'x6' box is too small for two assholes.
>>15897273
What model and year is that? I've always liked those KW's.

>>15897268

Depends on how hard your run. Your per mile rate may be like 10 cents higher, but you split it. You get paid all miles whether you're driving or not though. It's not worth it in my opinion unless you're a husband and wife combo that can't be separated.

>>15897286

And 10 cents higher is top end. It'll probably be more like 2-3 cents higher. If you're getting paid $.35/mile 3,000 a week now, you'll be getting paid like $0.19/mile 6,000 a week team. It's not worth it being stuck in a tractor 24/7 with someone that isn't your husband/wife.

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>>15897282
That's Amber Durum only a few weeks after seeding, our climate isn't really suited for corn.
>>15897284
1999 T600, absolutely love the truck.

>>15897284

Well according to The Truckers Report, but anyone who's been around for a year knows that forum is 90% people who don't need to be in trucking to begin with. Still raises concerns.

Does F2F have their own load board? I would like to see some screen shots of whatever load boards they're using for the mid Atlantic region to see if it's worth it.

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I had no idea Truckerfag is barroll. I always read his posts when I was getting into trucking.

>>15897306
Bill is an honest down to Earth man, not some business tycoon that doesn't even remember your name. I personally don't work for F2F but I've talked to the guy. I have a company driver job with good pay and excellent benefits. I'm usually home every Friday night and back out very early Monday morning to pick up a 7-9AM load. If my weekend gets cut short for getting home late or any other reason, they give me an extra 12 hours off the next weekend. I love working here. If things go south and this company stops treating me so good, I plan on buying a truck and leasing on to there. I have more than enough to cover operating costs for ~6 months and learn the system.

>boss texts is at 11pm saying not to come in to work today because computers are down
That was a nice text to wake up to. I feel like it's an elaborate joke.

>>15897972

Gone fishin then? I haven't heard anything from my company since I got home Friday. Has never happened before. I'm getting nervous. If I don't get a call from dispatch in a hour should I call or just sit home until they call?

>>15898001
I still gotta finish up a few things around the house with this moving BS. But I will probably go back to sleep for a bit.

I texted both my bosses like "For real?" and neither of them responded so I'' guessing they are both asleep. Boss texted at like 9pm saying he just dispatched (which is normally done at 3:30pm) so I think the warehouse got a real late start loading trucks and either they had more problems with the system or dudes won't be done loading the trucks until later this morning.

We probably have to work Saturday though.

>>15898009
think that's a given. being essentially a day behind now. i thought you were still looking for a place? you found one?

>>15898001
when are you scheduled to be back on duty? usually an hour after that is when i call.

>>15898028
Yeah moved like a week ago, but there has been a bunch of small shit to move plus cleaning out the old house. At least the new one is only like a mile away so I grabbed a 6x12 trailer from Uhaul for a couple days and just made a bunch of trips with all the big shit.

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>>15898028

I'm usually back out on the road Sunday evening.

Looking at this picture, I'm just thinking what poor soul accepted $0.25/mile to do that. They look like company trucks. Old picture btw

>>15898064
They just take the wheels off of them in 'straya and use a single truck with a pilot/escort for the chassis and another of the tyres.

>>15896124
>no need in buying insurance for the camper because it sits permanently in the campground

What is 'fire and theft'?

>>15898064
I feel like that's a photo op rather than actual haulage. And even if it IS regular haulage, it's specialised enough to charge more for it.

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>>15898112

For the carrier's pockets, not the company driver's pockets. I drove flat bed as a company driver for 3 years. Doesn't matter if I was hauling #10K of pipe or #40K wideload that needs tarping, pay was the same. I'm O/O now and still see these poor company drivers doing $0.75/mile work (after my expenses anyways) for $0.38/mile at a mega.

>>15898121
less truck stop more truck wash

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>>15895534
this is site of ekaterinburg truck service. http://www.ets-avto.com/catalog/item4/

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**GUYS I FOUND PHOTO OF BIG SLEEPER KENWORTH IN RUSSIA. THIS TRUCK BEEN IN ALLIED MOVING COMPANY OR WHAT?**

>all these huge sleeper cabs

Here I am with a 54inch sleeper for weight reduction and max payload

#tankerlyfe

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>>15898153
in russia u can just bribe cops and pull 100+ tons.

>>15898161
>pull 100+ tons.
As if american built trailers can handle that

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>>15898165
your michigan trucks can pul 100 tons at least

>>15898172
with a billion axles under them

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>>15898173
but u cant get a real money if u michigan truck owner. i want to buy 1 truck from michigan to work in russia.

4 wheeler swerved into my line at the last second and caused a collision. I had to swerve a bit cause otherwise o would have ran him over, and when I swerved I hit a van too. The car who caused the collision had about 2 inches worth of damage and he admitted it was his fault

The van's damage was also minor. Looked almost unreportable.

Am I still fucked?

>>15898204
in the ass

>>15898153
I was thinking of doing that for flatbed, but I stay out for months at a time and need my mini fridge and closet. I used to have a cooler strapped to the front of my flatbed all the time with cold drinks and lunch meat. Would always get shit about it when I was driving empty. "Huge load you got there!"

>>15898165
>As if american built trailers can handle that
Why do you think they all use euro trailers?

Note the three axles set towards the midpoint.

>>15898204
Should have steered into the car and mown through it, killing the driver. Then made up a story pinning it all on them.

>>15898215
I am only out for maybe 2-3 nights a week, so it is bearable. If I was OTR I couldn't handle it.
Pretty much get loaded and drive on average 500miles to unload point then return empty.

>>15898225

I'm regional but choose to stay out. I got my CDL to get away from my family. The fuck do I want to visit them for? Once I save up, I'm going to buy a truck and O/O. Will probably rent a room someplace near a beach. No use in buying a place when you're single.

>>15897120
>Who stands at a dock for 4 hours?
As an o/o, you do unless you like having shortage/damage claims after the dock workers keep a few dozen boxes for themselves and throw all the product they damaged on your truck because you were sleeping.

>>15897160
>SLC
Not usually an accepted signature ime. I've seen a few places not watch for that but most watch for it and you won't get your paperwork until you sign with something that doesn't resemble SLC. Most other drivers I know just throw an illegible scribble for a signature but now places are onto that too and require thumb prints.

>>15898281

Not to mention the forklift drivers with the IQ of a deer standing in the highway tearing your trailer up that you pay for. I swear 90% of forklift drivers in this county had 0 training.

>>15898281
thats always boggled my mind.
>sir you have to sign for this
ok let me count the-
>no, you cant come in to count it
but then i dont know if this is right or not.
>dont waste my time sir
i usually end up writing "NOT ALLOWED ON DOCK" in sharpie and surprise surprise the counts are usually off.

>>15898145
kek I wonder if this is independent research

>>15898148
Looks like an old Reliable Carriers truck

3.06 drive time remaining
GPS say I'm 3.06 from destination
Can I do it?

>>15898471

If they allow you to sleep there I guess. I feel bad for you e-log cucks. Eclipse master race.

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The fuck is this Farm2Fleet garbage for? They don't have their own contracts or private load board even. You still gotta pay your own insurance, plates, etc. Why would I give somebody 20% of my income for nothing?

>>15899109
Because you can make $490k/yr driving 2 days a week like tfag.

>>15899140
That has nothing to with F2F. They don't get you loads or have their own. You use 3rd party load boards. Would like to know which ones he is doing.

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>>15898494
Pulled in with 4 mins to spare. Now I'm stuck at the dead end of a dirt road next to a waste treatment plant until midnight.

>>15899198
Enjoy the fresh air

>>15899167
He has mentioned them multiple times before. Can't remember which though.

Should I buy a truck for ~$30K cash or use that money to finance a newer used truck and have a ~$1,000 month payment. I've been driving for almost 3 years and pretty sure I have poor credit. Was in the 400s after my identity got stolen and I doubt it's higher than 500s now.

>>15899273
Buy, don't finance.

>>15899109
IIRC, you get a tax break for leasing yourself and your gear to them, which is more than they charge you for the privilege.

>>15899284

I can only find trucks like that at dealerships. But when I ask for contact info of the person who sold it to them, they won't give it to me. I'm not going to buy a semi truck unless I know why the person sold it. I've tried classified sections on trucking forums but nobody ever responds. Where can I find some for sale by owner listings?

>>15899307
I'm also in need of a trailer too. But I only have $40K capital to start. Want a 53 flat

>>15899312
then you don't have enough capital to start. TF has recommended you buy the truck and trailer and have 3 months worth of cash in the bank to start.

Is 19 too young to become a truckerfag?
I want to earn lots of dosh to afford myself a house. I don't mind the job nor the lifestyle it brings as I live solo.
I failed my first year in uni, because I literally could not stop working other jobs. I can't wait 5 years to finish a uni to finally start earning money. Should I go for it? Is it a big life decision? Will it pay off? Will the job go extinct in 10 years?

>>15899327
If every company required this before they leased on operators, we wouldn't have 99% of the bullshit that goes on today. But instead they would rather lease on every tom dick and harry so they can rip them off with their expensive lease terms on brand new tractors and trailers.

>>15899337
Most companies won't hire under 23. Maybe once you're 21 you could get lucky finding something local. I would suggest getting a fork lift job. Just lie about having training and apply to factories. Watch some YouTube videos. When I was 19, that's what I did. I'm 22 now and starting school to get my CDL. Haven't decided what I want to do yet. The company I'm going to training for is going to put me in a reefer running regional. Pays $0.36/mile home every weekend, averages 2200-2500 miles a week. I won't know what I want to do until I get out there and talk to other truckers. Hopefully I will meet people like Truckerfag out there that'll show me the yellow brick road.

>>15899337
>>15899354
There are a handful that will take you at 21, but 23 for the rest because of insurance rates.

And I believe under 21 you can't even do interstate

>>15899354
>>15899367
Forgot to mention im Eurofag.

>>15899395
I'm so sorry

>>15876788
we dont even do that anymore...

>>15876788
China? This isn't 2006. We Mexico and Taiwan now.

>>15899481
>Mexico
Well look at Mr. Richie Rich over here. How is that caviar?

>>15898161
Damn, what a nice truck.

>>15899486

We import cheap parts, assemble em in murica, put a made in murica sticker on it, and baby boomers eat it all up. Getting rich. Just copying Ford's motto

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>>15899140

lmao truckerfag is one of the few tripfags I tolerate but he's so full of shit when it comes to what he "earns".

there's literally no way he makes that much profit with how little he works.

>>15899312
>>15899327

why not just lease a trailer for the first year or so then buy one once you've gotten settled? if you don't have a truck payment, a trailer lease payment should be nothing.

>>15899774
t. Salty poorfag

>>15898224

This.

Dead men can't call you a liar.

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>truck won't start
>all electrics work fine
>12.6V on both gauges
>turn key
>c-c-c-cl-cl-click
>????
>see this on the battery shut off
Fug. This wasn't even the one I bodged on there myself 2 years ago.

>misc assranch over F2F
I'm not scrolling back up, but all the cashflow issues causes by shady operators leasing on, taking loads, and vanishing, sometimes holding loads and trailers hostage were resolved 6 months ago. Everyone that's assmad on TTR couldn't figure out why terminating their contracts would lead to final settlement issues because they never read their contracts. I get a managed fuel card, an MC full of clean inspections I didn't have to sit through, brand recognition, the occasional dedicated freight offer, and once I throw the chains in the box, scan the BOL, and finish my coloring book I'm done for the day. No accounting, no compliance issues, no ringing brokers in the middle of the day because their net30 payment is pending on day 47, no sitting in state buildings waiting on stickers, and I get all those sweet, sweet corporate tax breaks for leasing them my equipment. I get 87% since I was one of the first drivers they signed on, so I spend more on food I throw out every week than what I give them to be my pencil pushers.

They're really not a company for an O/O that's been in the game 20 years running a triangle with direct accounts and is home every Thursday afternoon for the week. However, for the 24 year old college drop out with 5 figures in their savings and a paid for truck sitting at home it's a great way to get your feet wet playing Mr. Big, super trucker after 2 years as a company cuck and fucking around a few years with lower risk than getting your own authority and sitting around with your thumb up your ass the first year since nobody worth working with will work with an MC under a year old or fewer than 3 level I inspections.

>>15900966
Nice dubs.

Does F2F cover permits and escorts when doing non legal loads? What kind of things do they cover?

>>15899774
I know a guy that GROSS $30K a month just running in and out of NYC. He's old as fuck, has all his shit paid off for, and runs hardly any gas on short loads. Have no idea what Truckerfag is into. I don't want to become an O/O to get rich, I just want to make company pay while working half the month.

>>15901426
That's my end goal as well - make the same money with more time to myself. Occasionally I consider ringing up an old friend and getting a list of the body shops he delivered to in the past. I could get a B-class box truck and run car parts, working 6a-1p Mon-Fri and make the same money as I am now.

>>15902075
Damn, that sounds nice. But then you gotta think of the end game. If you go drive a straight truck for 5 years and get content, it's gonna be hard going O/O or even a better company position with a tractor trailer.

>>15902075
I'm going to lease on to Mercer if tfag won't post more convincing information on f2f. I like to run workloads for the military and if that 20 percent t doesn't cover permits and escorts then fuck that. I can give 25 percent to Mercer and they offer much more. Only downside is I can't use 3rd party load boards and mercers freight can get pretty cheap in the winter. But my costs won't be any higher than 1.35 a mile if I finance a truck 1.15 without. If I can average 2 a mile there not including accessory pay ill be happy

>>15902105
If I did that parts run job and for some reason decided later to get back into a truck, I'd just go back to Skyline for 6mo-1yr to warm up again, then go O/O for them.

>>15902107
TF has been doing this for years. You should take his advice.

>>15902138
Ignore him. He's already made up his mind, now he just wants someone to validate his opinion

>>15902138
You don't understand that his success has nothing to do with f2f. He is his own dispatch and picks his own loads. If he would just post the boards he uses and his opinion on good lanes it would be much more helpful. All these retards in here thinking the company you're with determines your success needs a reality check. You're a business owner as an owner operator. If you struggle at one company 99% chance you'll struggle at all of them.

>>15897232
That's why I never deal with brokers. The company I work for is similar to Mercer in that they deal with agents. Usually the stop, detention, etc. pay is determined by the shipper. Most will say they pay this and that rate and they never pay and it's not worth the court fees suing over a hundred dollars. But there are still some shippers out there with a heart, but rarely. I think shippers should be held more responsible for the damage they control and have tighter regulations put on them. People always complain dispatchers are the ones pushing you to drive illegal, but it's the shippers. I once accepted a load that was originally a 800 mile trip (+ deadhead) I picked up at 5PM and they wanted it delivered by 9 AM. I told them there was no way it was legally possible as my clock was up at 9PM. They agreed to extend it to the next day at 6PM which was still tight, but I agreed. They later complained to the agent that I was late on the delivery and that also there was missing product and filed a loss claim. These shippers are shady as fuck. If you aren't back there watching them load the trailer, they will steal shit and all else, then tell you the quantity is correct and I'm ready to go. Stupid fucking Mexicans. I once had a load to pick up at 7AM and deliver by 3PM. It was only 200 miles. Supposed to be easy. I didn't get out there until 2PM. Everybody just dropped and left for lunch and then when they came back, they ignored me after I told them to hurry up every 15 minutes. Did I get detention pay in my settlement? Nope, I was late to the receiver so don't get any according to their clause..

>>15899327
3 months isn't enough. I would say 6 at least if not a year. Especially for new O/O's. If you've been around the block, then leasing to a new company may not be as big of a transition. When I started, I had ~$13K in the bank and thought that was enough cash flow to start. Now, I get really nervous when I don't have more than $100K in the bank. You never know what will happen this month, this year, etc. Your truck could die on you and need a new one, you could make a mistake and get let go from the company you're leased on to, the rates could tank and put you out of commission going back to dedicated accounts for a carrier for a few months, etc. It's not all green grass and daisies in being an O/O. You gotta put in work every hour your awake. Instead of sitting in that truck stop every evening wasting $20 on food and chatting with strangers, you need to be studying your load boards. Find out the average rates of different sections of states and keep updating it every 30 days or so. Call agents and brokers you work for, ask what customers they have, how often they send loads out, average rates, etc. If you don't do your homework in your first few months doing this stuff, you're never gonna learn the system and will file for bankruptcy within 2 years and back to being a company cuck.

Got my CDL permit today. Feels good.

>>15902105
Pepsi do you predict Florida going red or blue this year?

How much would it cost to get my old 2003 Freightshaker Detroit 60 Series running like new? I've heard people tell me I need an inframe and other people say overhaul. What's the difference and cost? I'm burning through oil and mpg has dropped almost 2 over the last year. Just went over 1.2M miles.

>At consignee
>Appt is 11:45
>They don't assign me a dock until 13:15
>Lady tells me take a left then a right, go around the building to get to the docks
>Do exactly that
>Except after making a right there's a locked gate
>Backing up to get back out
>Bumper gets hung up on a shrub and gets bent out of shape
Dommot. Lady should have specified SECOND right. And there were no "No trucks" signs at that first right, in fact there was a daycab parked there.

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>>15905354
Get what you deserve driving vans. I quit after 4 months driving dry van. Was boring as shit. I got hired on to a flatbed company. My trainer has this huge Pete with a toilet and shower in it. Thing is wide as fuck. Everywhere we go people are moving stuff for him. I told me "I don't think I've had to back this thing in 8 years, people just move out my damn way."

His truck looks similar to this.

>>15905495
Yeah, I know. doorswingermeme.gif and all. I'd like to go flatbed but I'm not doing it for a company. I'll stick to my comfy van gig for now.

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>>15905522
What's the matter? Don't like doing a little bit of manual labor? Poor fuccboi white sissy.

>>15905552
Alright I'll give you one more (You). I don't mind the labor part at all. I mind only getting paid a pittance for the labor, especially tarp pay. It's infuriating knowing a company charges sometimes hundreds of dollars for tarping a load, then hands you $20 of it - and all they did was check a box on the paperwork. You're the one that did all the work, why does the company get all of the money?

>>15905552
That's pretty much what happened.

He pulled flatbed for 2 and a half weeks then quit because he "wasn't getting paid enough"

>>15905569
>>15905495 is me, >>15905552 wasn't. I'm not that autistic. I just found van driving very boring. And it's cheap labor. Have you tried getting into reefer or tanker? I know tankers make good money in the southwest. Reefer is pretty good market too. I like flatbed because you're getting paid the same but only doing 1600-2000 miles a week. While I'm young and have no expenses, I'm going to buy a cheap truck someday and try out the spot market on load boards. Don't know if it would be more cost efficient to be under my own authority or do F2F. I know there's Mercer and LS but I don't think they let you use 3rd party load boards.

>>15906786
> not giving him road head at every moment

I hope you ain't paying her much, Tfag.

>>15906992
Blow it out your ass

>>15906786
Go away

>>15906786
>hard hat required
damn you must be dangerous ZF..

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>>15906786

>>15907489
I should tell you about the time I kicked his dash in.

>>15907946
Fuck off

>>15905522
I think you're supposed to go flatbed for a company a year or so before going O/O, so you get experience chaining and tarping while tearing up someone else's equipment before having to buy your own.

>>15905577
Actually I think he quit because he wasn't getting the miles they promised him. Which works out to the same thing in the end.

>>15907967
I feel confident I could do well on my own if I do flatbed again, I was already doing a ton better than a load of other drivers we see on the roads. I also kept the regulations book for load securement. And you're right on that second comment, they claimed I'd get 2,200+ miles each week and >90% no-tarp freight. Neither one of those claims were true, and they'd try anything to weasel out of paying me when I had to sit for any period of time. I once sat for an entire day because they had no loads for me, I was 500+ miles from home and they wouldn't pay me anything for it because I was 'within 50 miles of a terminal.' That day was what really set me off and got me started on getting back to Skyline.

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>Be canadian
>succesfully acquired my Class 3 driving licence last year(equivalent to american Class B)
>only ever driven a stupid syncronized 6-gear Freightliner M2 similar as pic related during lessons
>now comes to time to find a job in that field
How bad will I do when comes the time to drive a truck with a Eaton transmission? I watch video on Youtube but I still can't properly catch up on the pattern and low/high range thingie.

>>15908044
It's easier than you think and you'll probably have it in a day.
Basically the stick is a 5-speed pattern with a reverse gear, assuming you've got a ten speed.
The switch changes between low gears (1-5) and high gears (6-10).
It's safe to flip the switch in anticipation of the next gear shift.
Operating the clutch is a bit different. The gears aren't synchronized so you have to:
Clutch into neutral position
Rev up or allow the revs to come down to where they match the next gear and current speed combination
Clutch into the next gear
This is easy when going up gears because you really don't have to do anything unless you let the revs drop too low by not shifting in time.
Shifting down to a lower gear requires revving up the engine during that moment where you're in neutral.
Don't rev while you've got the clutch pedal down.

Just had to shower barefoot after I forgot my shower sandals. How long do I have to live?

>>15904572
I also got my permit today. Feels scary. We get into the truck on Monday but the biggest thing I've ever driven is one of those little uhauls and I've never driven a truck with a trailer before, so I'm pretty confident I'm gonna fuck as much shit up as possible.

>>15908233
A few long, painful months as you are slowly eaten alive from the inside out.

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>>15908276
That's what I get for being forgetful.

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>>15908410
scrub the living fuck out of your feet with head & shoulders, tripkun. it's a basic antidote

>>15908233
whiney never wears sandals and look how he's turned out

>>15908233
RIP

f

>>15908488
good god man

>>15908488
This

Its like syphilis, slowly fucks your brain up.

>tfw company cuck getting paid hourly while they dick about trying to figure out why your new truck keeps throwing check engine light at idle
>tfw its a paccar mx13

7hrs and counting.

>>15908543
>PACCAR MX
Enjoy all that hourly money. I could have jumped right back into a 386 but I prefer driving to sitting on my ass waiting for a tow/repair. If it had a Cummins I'd probably never get out of it…

>>15908488
see:
>>15878873

>>15908602
I was glad to get out of the other thing. It had an ISM and it vibrated like shit and was noisy as fuck.

Why is international so hated? Is it because of the maxxforce engine? What about an international with a Cummins engine? Because I told the mechanic I was disappointed i got an international instead of a freightshaker and he keked and told me international and freightliner were just a shell and the engine is what really matters. I have a 2015 10 speed prostate with a Cummins engine and he told me it was a good rig

>>15908920
Mostly the Maxxforce yeah, but the cabin is also decidedly cheap. Doesn't matter much if you don't intend to keep the truck for more than a few years, but long term they really start to fall apart. At least that's the story I've been told.

>>15908920
>>15908933

International trucks used to be really good, although that was back in the early 2000s. Everything they've made since has been cheap throwaway garbage.

>>15908920
They're cheap garbage.
They leak air around the doors and through the firewall.
All the plastic feels like what they make the cheapest walmart laundry baskets out of, and breaks just as easily.
You can literally break the dash open with your bare hands.
The seats rip and expose sharp metal surfaces within a year.
All the mirrors wobble like jello.
The hood mirrors will randomly pop off their mountings.
The outer sun visor will wobble its way loose.
Every latch on every cupboard amd drawer will be broken within a month.
The rubber on the steering wheel control buttons will wear through within a year.
The steering wheel itself will be crumbling to dust within two years.
Every piece of plastic on the piece of shit rattles like michael j fox withdrawing from heroin while you drive.

>>15909302
Add to this, I'm cumpney driver for crete.
Crete buys their trucks for cash.
A few years back when Freightliner stopped selling Centuries and couldn't meet the price point Crete demanded for Cascadias, Crete switched to Prolapses out of spite.
They've since realized what a horrific mistake that was and are paying more for cascadias now.