Why can't anybody but americans build a decent pickup truck?

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See this? It's a work van, not a shopping cart.

>>15800471
Looks like can't even drive off a paved road

How could someone use this for serious work?!?!?

>>15800487
>Looks like can't even drive off a paved road
not every every truck/van has to look like a transformers

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>>15800487
that's a fiat so it's shit anyways

here's anyway something that does "serious work" (as if your pickups fare well offroad)

>>15800471
Does that even come with a V8?

>>15800487
imagine someone who's job it is to hotshot parts around town all day

you don't need an f450 black ops to do that shit

>>15800511
enjoy your rust faggot
>>15800514
it comes with turbocharged engines

>>15800487
I'm sorry we can afford to pave our roads in Europe?

>>15800514
Even better, it comes with a turbodiesel making all the necessary torque from far less displacement and fuel consumption, and not some horseshit boat anchor petrol engine.

>>15800511
They wont get stuck in the mud in 3 seconds like his yuro van-truck

>>15800521
Something tells me you have no experience with work trucks.

At my work we have three Isuzu cubes, one has an Isuzu diesel and the other two have a gm 6.0. Not only do they get up to speed much quicker than the diesel but they do better on gas too.

Not to mention the gas engines heats up a lot quicker than the diesel when it's winter

I'm really gassy tonite i keep farting little farts i can feel them 10 minutes before they're released

>>15800471
Looks like some kind of cuck truck

>>15800716
Jeff?

>>15800471
bo w Europie nikt z nich nie korzysta

debilu

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>>15800511
>meanwhile in Murrica

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>the same inbred yuropoors post the same shitty vans every time
>"th-they're better than trucks in every way!"

on paved roads and cities, maybe

too bad there's something called "flyover states" where there barely any paved roads

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Because noone else gives a fuck about them.
You want a real offroad work beast you get pick related and then get a real car. Pick-ups are like microwaves that try to also be oven and are shit at both.

>>15800471
Only a eurocuck would reply this gay shit

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fuck that "i need muh truck to tow 20,000lbs of hay" I'm just glad we get to have cool shit like this while they're driving around their 1.2l Fiat Punto

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>>15800751
Complete bullshit. That's a class 8 tractor. Eurohandivans are all light duty comparable to three quarter ton and one ton trucks. Here's a big boy eurotruck. 80,000 lbs legal weight, the same as entire American semi combinations.

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>>15800759
>He's proud to admit his country is third-world tier

>>15800794
It would be impossible to pave every road in the US without yuro style overtaxation

>>15800794
we're proud to admit that despite being a superpower with some of the biggest cities in the world, the vast amounts of our land are natural and beautiful. Therefore we need capable vehicles to traverse these vast and wild lands.

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>>15800793
>cabover

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>>15800516
>f450 black ops is actually a thing

god damn i need one of these.

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>>15800793

That looks like it was drawn up by a 10 year old with autism then coated in plastic. What is wrong with you people? Everything looks so depressing over there.

>>15800471
>fiat
>decent
lol

>>15800812
Longnose trucks are god awful for manouverability which plays a big role over here.

>>15800825
What's the point of slapping chrome on construction site vehicles?

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>>15800793
thats just a dump truck, an entirely different class of vehicle than work trucks.

>>15800859
That's my entire point because that moron posted a T800 in a thread about light duty vehicles in the first place.

>>15800854
>What's the point of slapping chrome on construction site vehicles?
Why not? Chrome is a durable and rust-resistant finish for metal parts.

>>15800854
>Longnose trucks are god awful for manouverability which plays a big role over here.
>living in an overcrowded shithole

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>>15800718
>>15800787
elevator when?

>>15800776
I like it

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>>15800944
>yuros now so butthurt that they think a step is a bad thing

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>>15800943
We tried to claim Lebensraum and make people disappear 70 years ago and it only got us into more trouble.

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>>15800967
you don't have to be butthurt to admit sliding step is for an american loser who can't lift a crate of a beer and tip his wife's bf

>so high, how can I get in there?

>>15800989
>practicality is for losers
No wonder yurotrash cars are such a bitch to work on.

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>>15800996
If you're so smart about practicality, why don't you have flat, full width, side loading beds yet instead of that plastic pond liner shit?

>>15801015

That thing looks depressing as hell. Good luck pulling a 15k lb trailer with that thing.

>>15801015

that's the saddest heap of euroshit I've ever seen

>that shitty tarp
>those piano-sized wheels
>brooms just thrown behind a rack

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as far as i know, no american trucks have had a war named after them

...but i fucking love the idea of fitting trucks with massive (and preferably FI) V8 or even V10 engines for shits and giggles

>>15801046
None of your f150with a sliding step can't tow 15k

>>15801053
It's a utility vehicle, you're not paying for it to look pretty.

>>15801092
>you don't NEED it to look good
Sure, but I WANT it to look good.

>>15801089

It'll do 10k but it's not a commercial vehicle like that piece of shit VW claims to be.

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>>15801102
Good for you, but it'll make it more expensive and less practical so clearly you don't care about your business much.

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>americucks trying to look tough

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>>15801119
It's a light duty vehicle. For medium duty there's a completely different range on our market.

>>15800695
>petrol has better mileage

Somewhat hard to believe... but maybe

>>15801149
>yurocuck literally resorting to shitposting

Yuros are so cucked by gas prices that they can't drive anything other than a 1.0 liter shitbox lol

>>15801156

Whats with all the grey plastic and paint? Looks like some little kids toys. So sad looking. I bet that thing has a 2.0 liter diesel and can barely pull as much as a F250.

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>>15800456
the fuck are you on about mate

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>>15801167
>2 liters is considered "big" in yurop

>>15801167

Their gas isn't even thaaat expensive, they're all just really poor.

>>15801178
and new cars are taxed to shit unless they're 1.0l 3 cylinder cuckboxes or hybrids/EVs

>>15800759

Russia is even worse, not even your ’MURRYTRUCKS can get around there without getting stuck.

>>15801170
1. They're work vehicles and not show cars, and plastic is lighter, cheaper and less susceptible to visual damage than your shiny fucking chrome.
2. It's highly useful for construction vehicles to be easily visible road-side for the safety of the workers and surrounding traffic.
3. The pictured truck has got engines up to 885 lbft of torque available and is rated for up to 23,000 lbs towing.

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>>15801177
>200hp cuckhatches are seen as "fast" in yurop

>>15801184
Actually new cars aren't taxed to shit at all, it's old American shitbarges with boat anchor engines and crappy emissions that'll make you poor, and even then there are usually excemptions in place for historic registrations. It's just that European societies never got as car obsessed as the Americans to begin with and didn't start planning their entire infrastructure around cars, so cars don't hold as much prestige as in the US and people don't see themselves forced to waste as much money on them as Americans do.

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>>15801191

>>15801204
>It's just that European societies never got as car obsessed as the Americans to begin with
Because nice cars are a symbol of personal freedom and we can't have too much of that!

>>15800823
>We want the CoD audience: the car.

>>15801196
Holy Fuck. You only get 885 Lb Ft and 23k for a truck that big? Let us know when your medium duty trucks have 900+ and can tow 30+

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>>15801216
>it's an 'Americans are freer than you' episode

>>15801220
12 year olds can't drive

>>15801196
Holy Fuck. You only get 885 Lb Ft and 23k for a truck that big? Let us know when your medium duty trucks have 900+ and can tow 30k+

>>15801232
Neither can 40 years olds in the US, but it doesn't stop them from taking out loans for these ridiculous shitbarges.

>>15801196
>The pictured truck has got engines up to 885 lbft of torque available and is rated for up to 23,000 lbs towing.

hahah weaker and pulls less than a RAM 3500. Cmon you guys. Are you even trying at life anymore?

>>15801240
>yurocucks
>trying
>at anything

>>15801231
We're freer than the average yuro

only countries that really have a level of freedom approaching ours are NZ, Canada, and Australia

>>15800793
Wow, European styling really reflects their government.

>>15800823
Yeah.. In defense of the truck all a bro trucker has to do is lift it... It already has the cosmetic bullshit done to it

>>15801240
>Rams
We all know what unreliable pieces of shit those are, don't we? All FCA ever do is brag about big numbers with no substance to them. Muh Hellcat power, muh Ram power, muh Ram towing, but then they're all somehow worse than the competition when actually put to the test.

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You're lying to yourself if you think you need anything more than this

>>15801262

Trucks are the only thing Chrysler can almost do right. They're perfectly fine as lease or fleet trucks.

>>15801255
Right, because your Freightliner Cascadia and International Prostar plastic blobs and flagship trucks visually still stuck in the '80s are any better.

>>15801268
>you don't NEED more than this
Spoken like a true yurocuck.

Fuck what I NEED, I get what I WANT. That is FREEDOM.

>>15801268
Not everyone has a shit office job

>>15801268
It's literally built in the United states for american tastes LOL

and nobody buys any toyota truck larger than a tacoma

>>15801262
They're superior to anything European though.

>>15801102
>vanity
>form over function

>>15801321
That's your opinion because you keep mixing up private and commercial use and assume a vehicle to be better when it does both in some way, when in reality there are cars that are better cars than your pickup trucks and utility vehicles that are better utility vehicles than your pickup trucks, and 99% of the time there's no point in mixing the two.

>>15800487
>Off road
>Pickup truck
For what purpose

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this is how you make a pick-up truck, please take notes amerieurocuckpoors

>>15801363

Our private trucks do more than your commercial trucks. I guess you can mix them.

>>15801089

F350s with that>>15801092
step can tow 30k+ and with a glorious 6.7L diesel. Are diesels that big even legal to own in europoorstan?

>>15801428
Pretty sure shariah law prohibits engines larger than 2 liters.

>>15801370

Have you ever seen a construction site after a heavy rain?

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>>15801428
Why don't you ask some of our 16.4L V8 diesels?

>>15801262

Next years f250 - 450 will have 925 ft-lbs

Iirc they have 865 currently

>his truck has less than 6 wheels

>>15801428
>ford can't even design their own engines without european help

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>>15801455

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>>15801455
>having less than 4 axles

lmao

>>15801440
yuropoors and ramfags on suicide watch

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>>15801465
>literally stolen from Dodge

>>15801471
inb4 Michigan

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>>15801471
you're not even trying, are you?

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>>15801486
>all those wheels

literally can't turn

I bet you don't have full 90 degree steering

pleb

>>15801439

Legit question, can you privately own those? Or do you need an LLC? I can only imagine what the insurance and taxes cost on those.

>>15801494
Why would a cylindrical missile fired on a ballistic trajectory require a launching platform that can turn lol

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>>15801486

>>15801495
Our license classes have nothing to do with the utilization. If you're licensed to drive a 40 tonne semi truck you can do it private and commercially alike. I have no clue about insurance rates, but taxes for utility vehicles are calculated differently from passenger vehicles and will stay on a managable level especially if you're earning money with that vehicle anyway. I don't think anyone will buy a semi truck just for private use, I was merely trumping all competition in the silly displacement argument.

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>>15801506
to lap the nurburgring of course

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>>15801507
78 Wheels of Steel

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>>15801513
...should nürburgring testing be required for tank design?

which of the MBTs would be fastest?

>T-84 or go home

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>>15801534
>tfw lapping a leopars 2

we can always rotate the turret 180 degrees and use it as a speed boost, like in GTA

>>15801513
I'd just launch my Topol with single 1mt warhead and the 'ring becomes a crater

>>15800456
The Hilux/Tundra are based imo, but that's pretty much the only good non-American truck I can think of

>>15801548
and for a more important question, can tanks drift, or rather how?

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>>15800776
This, there's plenty of euro offroad capable trucks but they tend to be where they belong, off roads

>>15801680
American terrain requires a vehicle that can do both

>>15801697
how can a vehicle that clearly can be driven off roaf, not be driven on one?

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>>15801697
Bullshit. You don't need a built up offroader to drive down a dirt road every now and then, and you're not gonna take your built up weekend offroader across state on highways to visit family. If there are two jobs to do, two different tools will always do them better.

>>15801711
Awful mileage, awful noise, awful handling, wear on drivetrain parts. I mean, you can, but you're not going to unless absolutely necessary.

>>15800989
Fighter jets have steps for the pilot to use. They're losers I guess. Rich folk have steps on their escalades, losers, the lot of them. Heavy equipment has steps for the operator to use, tearing down buildings? Job for a LOSER. Tatra's Dakar truck has steps, driver is such a faggot loser.

>>15801287
No, but we've got Peterbilt and Kenworth. Get. Fucked.

>>15801495
Yes you can. In theory as soon as I turn 21 I could go and take a Category C+E licence which allows me to drive any vehicle over 7500kg and a trailer over 750kg. It would be expensive and I'm guaranteed to fail because I don't know the first thing about driving large vehicles, but I still theoretically could.

I'm just guessing here, but I think that if I didn't have my own company and had the company buy the truck, insurance would be more expensive because very few people privately own their own trucks

>>15800823
Pretty neat truck. what inst neat is the price tag though.

>>15801495

You can and some people do. I remember seeing a truck drag race event in France one time.

>>15800776
>implying more than 10% of europoors can afford a unimog

>>15801979
And I just have a class C license yet drive a 30 ton box truck for work. Basically I can drive anything as long as I don't use it for Comercial use or for moving large amounts of passengers like a bus. But I can drive a bus or a semi loaded up with my friends with no issue.

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>>15801440
>post yfw the ford f450 already has 925 lb ft of torque
Is recovery even possible at this point?????

>>15801720
>you don't need
I already have a mom, thanks.

>>15800803
True

>>15801573
Yeah, I have seen tons of videos of russian tanks drifting. Google tanks drifitng.

>>15800456
The new f150s look sharp in single cab. I wish you could buy one with the turbo and lariat trim.
>Dream truck.

>>15801078
How about a hilux with a twin turbo diesel v12 in an audi a7, or a rolls royce v12, r veyron w16

>>15805868
yeah, but topic of this thread was trucks, and i have seen more truck-like cars than a veyron

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>>15800456
why can't anyone build a decent anything

The Japanese used to but then they stopped making the old diesel hiluxes.

>>15801248
What the fuck does ''MUH FREEDUMBS'' even mean?

Big V8-trucks and a pro-globalist neoliberal economic policy?

>>15800989
>Be womanlet
>Truck is lifted
>Tailgate comes up to my shoulders when open

Don't know about you, but I'd kill for one of these steps. I got them for my cab, why didn't I think of them for my tailgate? Never have to climb on top of the tire again.

>>15801440
Enjoy your blown motors and probably a another new platform in a few years. The power stroke hasn't had a decent motor since the 90's. Dmax or Cummins is the only way to go. Dmax for the grocery getter that pulls a boat or the Cummins if you want shit done

>>15800487
I work in the construction industry. Trust me, you can drive vans on a lot of terrible roads. You can also get vans with 4wd.

Some people in this industry prefer vans over pickups because the space inside a van is more practical. Personally I drive a van just because that's what the boss set up for us. But occationally we use a pickup to haul heavy things.

I think both vans and pickup trucks have their place in serious work.
Vans are god tier when it comes to organizing your tools, or transporting things in general. With a pretty big van, you can even eliminate the need for a trailer in many cases. I put so much junk into my van, with a pickup I ironically couldn't pick up as much shit as I do in my van.

this is what serious work is about, all business, not what's cool and stylish

>>15801173
Made by and for America, the only thing non-American about this truck is the badge.

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>>15801438
>Keeping your tools in an open truck bed

>>15807594

>what is a bed mounted tool box

>>15807599
>What is if all your tools fit in a 5 gallon box you should have bought a sedan instead of a pickup truck

>>15807550
That's not a Tundra, m80.

>>15807251

Im actually a cummins fan, but 925 ftlbs is getting silly. Id wager a bet someone brings out a 1k ft-lbs diesel for their line.

>>15807615

Those are a shitload bigger than 5 gallons. Stay mad at trucks europoor.

>>15807633
What I meant was 5 cubic feet. Most truck boxes aren't significantly larger than that, though I've seen the occasional monster that made me wonder why he didn't just buy a van or SUV.

>>15807704
I don't want to get shit all over the interior of my vehicle.

>>15807731
So use a trunk liner. It's not rocket science.

>>15807768
And if it won't fit in my trunk?

>>15800456
chicken tax

>>15807704

Fuck you yuropoor. I'll own what i want, not what i need you socialist cuck. Unlike you, I have the freedom to choose my equipment.

>>15807779
What won't? The trunk liner? If your tools fit in a truck box, they'll fit in a trunk.

>>15807801
What is it with Americans and insisting on obviously dumb decisions?

>>15807805
I was talking more anything that wouldn't fit in a truck box. Like my fishing poles. Won't fit in a normal car, only way to transport them is in my truck bed.

>>15807704

SUV's and vans have shitty weak tires that constantly get nails and screws stuck in them. I know you guys haven't evolved to using that technology yet but in NA we have to deal with these things.

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>>15807801
>Implying I don't have 7.5 liters of gas guzzling freedom

>>15807811
>Leaving your fishing poles in the bed to get stolen

>>15807815
This is the dumbest shit I've read all week.

>>15807845
>I don't know how to read
I said TRANSPORT dumb ass.

>>15807811
>not having a wagon
>not having a sedan with a rear reach-through or fold down rear bench

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>mfw all these low test overcompensating yanks

>>15801567
>that's pretty much the only good non-American truck I can think of
there's also Isuzu D-Max and Nissan Navara, which are a pretty common sight in the european construction site where I work

>>15800456
Pal, the only thing anyone thinks when you drive something that big is how small your cock is.
Grow the fuck up, lose all the shiny shit with retarded styling and get a proper car.

>>15801198
Faster than the bus you ride every day.

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>>15800511
step it up, faggot

>>15800794
>not realizing the US is the size of a continental

>>15801377
>looks like someone took a Nissan Sentra and removed half the roof and the seats

>>15800521
>petrol

>>15801476
You have to admit they made it so much better though

Let's first clear up one thing:

>2016 Mazda CX-5 UK Towing Rating: 1800kg
>2016 Mazda CX-5 Canada Towing Rating: 907kg
>Same engine

So considering that whatever standards UK tests to for towing are VASTLY different, by a factor of 2 (though for the comparison below, let's say 1.5), let's compare the average fleet vehicle:

>Isuzu D-Max Ext. Cab 2WD: $30'500CAD (converted from BPD to CAD)
>1085 / 3500kg payload/braked trailer capacity, so closer to 725 / 2333kg adjusted to NA standards
>157hp 295ftlb 2.5L 4cyl
>5.5ft bed

>Ford F-150 Ext. Cab 2WD: $26,859CAD
>754 / 2272kg payload/braked trailer capacity
>365hp 420ftlb 3.5L V6
>6.5ft bed

Dodge RAM 1500 Quad Cab 2WD: $33,490CAD
>727 / 4200kg payload/braked trailer capacity
>240hp 420ftlb 3.0L V6
>6.5ft bed

North America just does trucks better for basically the same price or less.

>>15808215
>Adding leather and gadgets
>Upping the price from $35,000 to $975,000
>20 years later
>made it so much better

Whatever you're smoking, it's working.

>>15807808
Money, space, and taste.

>>15800759
Dont pretend your pigfat road trains can handle themselves off road
>clean dirt roads don't count either

Land cruiser, hilux, patrol, etc all say hello

>>15807891
At the end of the day, I love what I drive, while some yuropoor's crying about compensation in his shitty german car.

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>>15801288

There is no such thing as freedom. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Your greed will always have a negative impact somewhere else.

>>15808421
faggot spotted