What is so special about LS engines?

https://youtu.be/VsmbbuSq9m0

Cheap, plentiful, compact, good power and buckets of torque.

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>>15775274
Get ready son

>>15775274
literally nothing.

>>15775274
Thy are 100% ford

>>15775274
hp/dollar, aftermarket, all round simplicity (you can google your problem and find a solution) etc.

the engine itself is pretty unremarkable, besides it's power density

why would anyone want to start the base of their performance car with a truck engine? low down torque and a low redline? no performance car should have this. Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, all know that top end power is what makes a car go fast and they keep pushing the limits in this regard.
the original corvette just had a truck engine slapped into a cars body to make it "fast" and cheap. this philosophy has stuck and boomers have latched onto it because they can't comprehend anything else other than "because that's the way it's always been done". they pass this mentality onto their inbred children who worship it like its the one and only truth when in reality there's many other ways to do the same thing for the same price point. with the savings gm uses in their shitty engines that haven't changed at all since the 60's, they don't even make the interior or other attributes of the car worth a shit.
there's a reason gm got bailed out twice. because their cars are shit and the majority of people who actually do their research prior to buying a car know that.
I immediately think less of a person when I see them driving a gm product because it means that they couldn't even do enough research to buy a good car, which is only the second largest expense the majority of the population makes.

>Tldr they're shit.

>>15775280

First post best post

>>15775295

This, pretty much.

People get so assmad about them being so popular (stop liking thing I don't like reeeeeee!) and yeah, they're actually not all that special, comparatively speaking.

It's sort of a chicken and egg thing too, the parts availability and vast aftermarket is what makes them so popular, which means that aftermarket is only going to grow because they're so popular.

They're pretty OK. I don't see a reason to be upset.

>>15775318
>Low redline
Stopped reading there. My small block 350, not an ls mind you, revs to 7500. You're pretty ignorant for having so many opinions on an engine you've definitely never dealt with before.
See >>15775280

>>15775318
have fun in your miata weeb

1. Cheap
2. Domestic (plenty of parts and mods)
3. powerful
4. powerful
5. powerful
6. cheap and domestic

>>15775274
They're like rotary engines, except heavier and with less cast iron (except when they're a lot heavier and have more cast iron), and have piston rings that blow up when you boost them instead of apex seals.

>>15775912
hey.
not op but
fuck you.

>>15776317
tfw you LS swap your RX-7 and lose weight.

>>15776381
That means you're deleting AC, PS, and smog controls at the same time, which isn't really comparable. You could have deleted all that with the rotary and saved even more weight.

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>>15776381
no you don't faglord

>>15776397
oh cool, i can filter you now

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>>15776416
I can drop my trip if you want

$500 and an afternoon

>>15776397
LS fangirls BTFO

>>15776397
>all aluminum
not oem..


>>15776438
>BTFO
>fucking peripheral-ported 13b makes same power as my FACTORY STOCK LS1

my LS1 has 172k miles and gets 26 mpg still making over 300hp.

a pport 13B is race-only. that's like daily driving a formula 3 car

>>15776397
>aluminium rotary

enjoy changing apex seals and housing.

>>15775318
>low down torque and low redline

>has never been in a V8 muscle car at 6000-7000 RPM

also
>not wanting torque

what do you think a TURBO does you fucking faggot mongoloid


protip: its not adding RPM


learn what HP is before you spout retarded shit

>>15775318
Tldr; pushrod engines are currently spanking most ferraris, lambos, and porsches. Argument immediately invalid

C7 z06 only loses out to nismo gtr, 918, other hypers costing >$1million, or literal shitbox gokarts that seem to be spawning out

>>15775318
Why do you assume that cam profiles etc have to stay the same if the base block is used as a utility engine?

>>15776537
>/o/ spouts shit about HURR DURR PUSHRODS

>not realizing they eliminate the need for the two cams in a V engine, reducing weight and rotating mass and complexity

if it wasn't for cam-in-block PUSHROD GODS you have 4 cams and a bunch of chains

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>>15776509
>oem
literally fucking irrelevant

>same power as my FACTORY STOCK LS1
and it weights 4 times less, a turbo kit will boost that shit to 1200hp easily and it will still be lighter than an LS

>>15776524
>I have no idea what I am talking about

>>15776552
Technically speaking pushrod valvetrains do add more moving parts BUT you are right about timing chains being simple.

>>15775318
>Location of your powerband is what determines usability and speed, not width of powerband!
No.

>Corvette has truck engine!
No. Small block Chevy premiered in the Corvette, and it's always had significant distinction from the trucks by having stuff like GM's first fuel injection. Lately, they got the aluminium engines first, the redesigned heads, etc, etc. Basically, Corvette is first, pony cars follow, and then the trucks get their turn. I'm also pretty sure trucks never got the exotic bigblocks, like the ZL1.

>>15776301
Your forgot compact and light.

>>15776552
enjoy your valvefloat

>>15775318
>Ferrari
Literally used GM transmissions because they couldn't design an automatic up to about 2010.
>Porsche
Literally using Audi truck motors, even in the 918.
>Lamborghini
Two Audi inline five utility engines slapped together.

>>15776622
>>Porsche
>Literally using Audi truck motors, even in the 918.
you whatnow

>>15776579
Pushrod engines can still be used up to 10K RPM (See: Honda), but you don't need to. Design an engine with a bit longer stroke, add some torque, bam, power. Piston speed will be excessive anyways, so you might as well stick to the lower RPM where pushrods work fine without valve float.

>>15776635
you do realize that Honda motorcycle OHC engines can rev up to 20k right?

>>15776628
>Cayman/Boxter
Cucked into a 4-banger, lel
>911
Cucked into downsizing and turbo lag, lel

>918
First ever Porsche design utilising a V8. Probably uses half the parts of a 4.2 Audi.
>Macan
Shares platform with Q5, therefore, uses that model's truck engines.
>Cayenne
Shares platform with Q7, therefore, uses that model's truck engines.
>Panamera
See above, except no diract VAG counterpart. Still uses truck engines from Q5/Q7.

>>15776662
0/10

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>>15776662
>>918
>First ever Porsche design utilising a V8.
M8. It's not even the first production Porsche that uses a V8.

>>15776644
Is that supposed to be impressive? Smaller you go the faster you get with less effort.
And OP it's because you can compete with a 2JZ swapped car at a third of the price for the motor. And 2Js are already cheapish.

>>15776687
then why did you quote honda ohv bike engines if we were talking about car engines?

>>15776509
>a pport 13B is race-only. that's like daily driving a formula 3 car
It's really not. It's a lot more like driving an AP1 S2000, which a lot of people do on their way to work every single day.

>>15776524
>Not ceramic coating the inside of engine to increase seal and housing life, and saving even more weight by deleting the entire coolant system

>>15776724
>comparing i4 powerband to rotary

kys famalam

>>15776709
I don't know where you're getting that someone did, and if they did, it wasn't me. That's my first post ITT.

>>15776687
>LS compete with a 2jz
Come back when an ls1 can make 1000hp without opening the block

>>15776563
>1200hp turbo rotary
Good luck making it to the end of a round of dyno pulls without it exploding
>spend the day doing pulls and tuning
>time for another rebuild!

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>>15776724
>Dd an S2k
Absofuckinlutley.

>>15776748
Its not a stock c7 zo6 anon, it lasts longer than a couple minutes when being beat on

>bbbut muh pushrods are reliable!
>No no I don't care about the lt4 lunching itself or the ls7 dropping valves, look at hoe reliable a 180hp smog Era truck engine is!!

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>>15776748
>he can only reply with butthurt memes

>>15776760
Sup Alphonse

>>15776746
You'd have to do that to the 2J too. And you're still at four times the cost.

>>15776764
Dont confuse me with that summerfag

>>15776769
Sup Alphonse

>>15776768
Nope. 2jz routinely cranks out four figures without opening the block.
I suggest you do yoir research next time before you try compare an engine that Hates forced induction to one legendary for making massive power

>>15776746
>muh arbitrary benchmarks

>>15776760
>look at the time when GM had a problem with 1% of the production of an engine model
>p-please ignore the time Mazda made an engine that needed redesigning by the end user to reach 70k miles in 90% of cases

>>15776779
>time Mazda made an engine that needed redesigning by the end user to reach 70k miles in 90% of cases
citation needed

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>>15776776
>something about 3 2JZs have ever done
>routinely

>>15776779
Your entire post is damage control
Roflmao

>>15776776
>Yeah man I can double the horsepower with just a tune brah
Your average 2JZ swap still isn't going to clear 700hp. The LS is the cheapest engine that approaches those numbers, and that's why it's popular.

Which is the entire point and subject of the discussion.


I don't even rep either of them. My shit's the AMC straight six.

>>15776776

Sure it'll make 1000hp on stock internals.

But it won't last long, 600-700hp is about the max you'd want to run daily with some semblance of reliability

>>15776776
Why is opening the block a bad thing?

>>15776801
And it's still waay more than an ls1 will make with forced induction without being opened. About twice as much actually

>>15776808
Other than being a PITA and requiring a rebuild kit? Nothing.

>>15776808
It's not, it's just a stupid bit of dickwaving.
>hurr that NA engine is shit you can't boost the shit out of it without gapping the rings first

>why would anyone want to start the base of their performance car with a truck engine? low down torque and a low redline? no performance car should have this. Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, all know that top end power is what makes a car go fast and they keep pushing the limits in this regard.
>the original corvette just had a truck engine slapped into a cars body to make it "fast" and cheap. this philosophy has stuck and boomers have latched onto it because they can't comprehend anything else other than "because that's the way it's always been done". they pass this mentality onto their inbred children who worship it like its the one and only truth when in reality there's many other ways to do the same thing for the same price point. with the savings gm uses in their shitty engines that haven't changed at all since the 60's, they don't even make the interior or other attributes of the car worth a shit.
>there's a reason gm got bailed out twice. because their cars are shit and the majority of people who actually do their research prior to buying a car know that.
>I immediately think less of a person when I see them driving a gm product because it means that they couldn't even do enough research to buy a good car, which is only the second largest expense the majority of the population makes.

This new pasta? Seems pretty yummy

>>15776813
I don't recall LS topping out on the inside of 475.

And you still haven't addressed the main point of the hp/$ ratio being the selling get point. You're just nitpicking something I said as an offhand comparison to another extremely common backyard swap. All you're trying to argue is that the 2JZ is a superior engine. If you're paying two grand for it, it better be.

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>>15776737
Here's a normal grocery getter I4 on the left, and an OH EMM JEEZ NO TORKZ UNDRIVEABLE RACE ENGINE on the right.

>>15776819
Working on cars at all is a pain in the ass. I thought modifying a car to suit you and what you want it to do (which is basically never in line with OEM sensibilities) was part of this whole "car guy" thing. Or have people got even more averse to work and learning since I last looked?

>>15776837
It is. It's just inherently a time consuming and intensive thing to do.

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>>15775274
cost, size and reliability.

>>15776836
Since when is an F20C some normal grocery getter i4? And why does the rotary dyno start at 4500 rpm?

>>15776845
Isn't that a ford modular on the left?

>>15776833
>hp/ $
Bullshit metric that no one cares about except poorfags who cant afford to modify an engine anyway
$500 ls1s don't exist by the way

>>15776851
>paying attention to obvious shitposts

>>15776847
Probably because the things idle at like 3 and a half grand.

>>15776851
its a toyota V8 IIRC>

>>15776776
>he thinks you can reliably get 1000hp out of a bone stock 2j
What the actual fuck.

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>>15776851
no pic related is a modular

>>15776851
1UZ-FE I believe.

>>15776864
>bone stock
Well no, you need to bin the factory turbos

>>15776855
So a fuckton of people then
>I make so much money/am willing to save up my good boy points for eight years
>This makes everybody else stupid and worthless
dis my favrit maymay

>>15776866
>>15776862
Ok thank you

>>15776847
It's pretty common to start dyno pulls at 3000-4000 RPM to reduce wear and because no one really cares how much power their car makes at 2500 RPM (although bus riders love to point out how much power their daddy's v8 makes at idle).

>>15776579
Maybe if you're a shit driver

>>15776864
Obviously you can't, because a 2J is a diesel 4 banger from the 60s or some shit. A 2JZ can, though.

>>15776872
Better off going for the F20C then, at least you don't need to worry about wearing it out just by driving it normally.
It managed to do its dyno pull from 2000rpm.

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>>15776882
>valvefloat related in any way to driving skills

the fuck?

>>15776890
>better off going for an inferior engine in every aspect except muh honduh reliability
Buy a fucking corolla then

>>15776890
I know you're just shitposting, but oil pumps designed to operate at 9000 RPM don't work efficiently at 2000 RPM. Wide open throttle off idle with a load on it qualifies as abuse. Most people won't even tune their engines down that low because it's a waste of time and you're never going to be starting a 30-roll in top gear. Just because some Honda kiddie is an idiot doesn't mean "Honda reliability" will stand up to that abuse forever.

>>15776622
Ferrari uses GM suspension as well

>>15776911
>makes more power at the wheels than the rotary at the crank
>more reliable
>less finicky
>far superior bsfc overall
>inferior
all you got is some smoothness and an extra 200rpm at the top end.
the bottom end is so shamefur dyno operators hide it to avoid upsetting owners.

>>15776928
Yeah sure, apart from the oil pump designed to work at the redline, the ignition system that works when it wants, clogged cats, burning seals and flooding if you turn the key wrong, renesis a good boy really

>>15776938
they don't tho

thats like saying Ford used GM transmissions on the older mustangs simply because it is a tremec

>>15776950
>renesis

nice straw grasping

>>15776950
>makes more power at wheels than rotary at a crank
Didn't know the f20 made 280whp

The rotary has superior power delivery l. End of story.

>bbbut muh 2000rpm
Let's not pretend low end matters in a f20 when it only starts making 160hp at 6000rpm

>>15776967
the engine in the dyno is a reneshit

>>15776970
>rotards in charge of reading graphs.
the F20C is a wheel hp reading, the renesis is at the crank. cry about it faggot

>>15776959
You're right. It's chinese.

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>>15776983
Still less whp than crank hp
Learn to read
Also pic related Roflmao

Stay btfo

Also pic related Roflmao

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>>15776983
>o-only 1 dyno sheet counts!!

nice straw grasping

have an s4 13b at the wheels

>>15776983
>the renesis is at the crank.
renesis can easily make 200 horse at the wheels, faggot

>>15777010
> shilling an engine he doesn't have and we know nothing about.
I could get 1000hp out of a lawnmower. Doesn't mean anything.

>>15777010
>1.el engine from the 70s makes as much power as Hondas flagship 4 cylinder performance engine
Roflmao hondafags4 btfo

>>15777020
>this btfo
Stay outta the kitchen if you can't handle the heat, hondafag

>>15777007
213 is less than 210 you retard,

>>15777010
modified engine making less than a stock F20C, real impressive

>>15776950
>208 at the wheels is now more than 210 at the wheels
>[citation needed]
>[citation needed]
>[citation needed]
The rotary is already making 20 horsepower more than the F20C at 4500 RPM, and continues making more power than the F20C all the way out to redline.

>Yeah sure, apart from the oil pump designed to work at the redline
All oil pumps are designed to work at redline. If your engine is good for 9000 RPM, but your oil pump starts to cavitate at 7500 RPM, you damn well better set your fuel cut at 7200 RPM unless you enjoy replacing engines every weekend.

>the ignition system that works when it wants, clogged cats, burning seals and flooding if you turn the key wrong, renesis a good boy really
No one ever argued that Renesis isn't absolute dogshit.

>>15777036
>213
Nope it was 208
Try again

>>15777027
I have a holden

>>15777036
>213 is less than 210 you retard,
whoops, fucked up my greentext

>>15777020
>gets BTFO
>b-but it doesn't count

glad to know I hurt your feelings, a 13b with a simple port and better breathing mods will make 200 at the wheel any day, which is more than what an s2000 makes at the wheels

>b-but reneshit
renesis can make 200 at the wheels too, but it takes a lot more work due to the nature of it's design

>>15777054
I feel even more sorry for you

>>15777054
kek

>>15775318
i can tell youve never owned one or even ridden in one

>>15777063
What did he mean by this

>>15777037
>>208 at the wheels is now more than 210 at the wheels
Listen you illliterate fuck, F20C is at the wheels, the Rotary is a the crank.
The only thing in the rotary's favour is that the Dynojet is typically a "more generous" dyno than the Mustang.
I'll give you that bit of information for free as you're clearly out of your element and unfamiliar with the data you're using, and I feel sorry for you.

>>15776983
>the engine in the dyno is a reneshit
It's not. It's from a 1974 RX-7 GSL-SE. The reason I posted it is because some idiot claimed that peripheral ports are unstreetable race engines, and I pointed out that they're typically less peaky than an S2000. Most people on /o/ would just laugh and call you a pussy if you claimed that the S2000 is unstreetable.

>>15775318
B8 or You're retarded either way you're retarded

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>>15775912
>he didn't ls swap his miata

>>15777097
You're referring to where it says "eng power"? All Mustang dyno charts say that, it doesn't mean it's set to measure estimated flywheel power.

>>15775274
bushrod

>>15777010
that looks like an engine that needs to be rebuilt

Nothing

Small engine, big displacement

>>15775274
Literally the perfect engine if you don't live in yurop where we get taxed on engine displacement and engine power (and therefore it's cheapest if you drive a torquey turbo diesel with realtively low displacement and power but still some pep to it). Europe has cucked us on big gasoline engines for no good reason.

>>15778785
when does a rotary not need to be rebuilt?

>>15776397
rotflmao

Nothin

>>15776662
>911
>turbo lag
>with twin vgt turbos

Please don't be this white

>>15780425

I'm european but I'm not aware of any country in the union that does that.

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>>15775274
>getting an ls over a mark iv big block

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>>15776579
>He hasn't upgraded his valve springs

HAHA wew lads check out this loser! He still has OEM valve springs! HAHAHA!

>>15775287
This

>>15776579
I will thanks. Enjoy your root beer float anon.

>>15776800
>My shit's the AMC straight six.
my nigga

>>15777049
Idiot

>>15775274
there free in america

>>15775274

Light
Cheap
Can be installed in an afternoon into any car

>>15776724
>It's a lot more like driving an AP1 S2000
>something a retard would say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jebl2pWaiWI

not a fucking s2000 faggot

>>15786275

>What is straight through exhaust

>>15775274
-light
-compact
-durable
-can into revs
-affordable
-lots of aftermarket
-lots of potential

It's a modder's dream engine and proof that GM is actually competent when they set their minds to things

>>15786281
>what is peripheral porting

literally nothing like a 4 cylinder

>muh rpm

look at the torque band

>>15786275
>waah this car with no air filter, no muffler, and 5 feet of total airflow plumbing is too loud

Here, listen to this. 450 whp 3 rotor with a glasspack exhaust. It's fairly loud, but it's not clipping the audio at idle and it's not the loudest car at the track.
https://youtu.be/vxVM57Dk8wU

>>15786285
Why would you respond to a shitpost thread?

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>honda bitches think they can compete
enjoy your 160hp at 6000rpm, s2gay faggots

i wish it was a little more feasible to put one in a corolla

>>15775281
There's nothing amazing about it though

>>15776381
TFW you remove emissions, convert to single turbo, and get an aftermarket intake manifold, TBs and standalone ECU and free up 200lbs in the engine bay and have a 600 hp 2-rotor that weighs under 2600 lbs

With 4 corner double wishbone suspension

Can't do that with a POS chevy engine.

>>15786347
>6000rpm
The V-Tech barely just kicked in yo

>>15786347
There's more to life than engine power you know?

No one mentions that since its OHV its fucking pretty narrow, which along with alot of the other things mentioned in its favor is a big reason for its use it swaps. It is easy to package

>>15776301
So if you live in one of the other 195 countries where it's not domestic or as cheap then it's got absolutely nothing going for it?

Can you get an LS1 to 400hp or is it better to just go with an LS6?

4:50 and onwards, furfag explained it prety good

>>15787592
With just a tune fuckboy

They're cheap, reliable, powerful, have a large aftermarket, and are compact for a V8. In fact, several of them are aluminum block when stock, so you lose weight compared to an ironblock I4/V6/ETC.

>TL;DR, why not an LS?

>>15786334
stop spamming this

>>15775274
Cheap enough for busriders to at least dream of swapping one into their 2,000$ shitbox.

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>>15787644
p-please don't bully wrench-kun

ITT: Pushcucks defend a terrible engine

>>15788917
except it's only terrible in subjective areas like sound and looks

>>15787721
You're saying that to ME and not to the autists who make these?

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I didn't read every post ITT so if someone already mentioned this whatever, but . . .

the LS isn't just one engine, it refers to an architecture comprising dozens of engines made from the late 90's to today, which share many common components allowing for interchangeability, and a gigantic aftermarket since manufacturers don't have to worry about designing unique parts for each motor. on top of all that they're super common since they were available in trucks, vans, suv's, sedans, sports cars, combined with the large aftermarket, and interchangeable parts it's a super popular choice for anyone wanting a high performance motor. not to forget the motors are very strong in their stock form and can be pushed hard on stock internals

>>15775274
pretty good breathing head
large capacity
simple as can be
condensed ancillary
used in many vehicles

the memes

>>15775318
>top end power
Porsche, Lamborghini
>you fucked up son

>>15776845
lol, that image... top left, American. Top right, not leaf spring.
Bottom engines are almost exactly the same size if you strip the accessories off the left one, or put them on the right one.

I love it.

>>15786347
That stable torque though... with the right tranny, you could do allot with that.

>>15789632
Prez is a shitposter and that is a shitpost image but the corvette does actually use a transverse leaf spring in the midst of all that. The struts you see are just magnetic dampeners, no spring.

>>15775274
Cheap, reliable, powerful, plentiful aftermarket, and most importantly, they fit in everything

>>15775274
cheap and plentiful, walk down to your local junk yard and take your pick

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>>15776397

>>15776552
Pretty sure I've heard that DOHC is more friction efficient and simpler, it has fewer parts.

You're trading 8 lifters, 8 pushrods and 8 rocker arms for one additional cam/chain setup.

>>15776800
American I6 all the way bitches

>>15775274
They're one of the last pushrod, over displacement, over produced, over supported engines you can find on any street corner.
That's about it.

>>15790812
N54 for life

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>>15790812
Toyota's 1FZ called, told me to let you know the AMC six is redundant.

>>15790845
Yo bro, the lsixes stick together we know what's really up wether it's American Japanese or from the fucking moon

>>15790837
Just promise you'll never fall into this v crap that's all I really care about

>>15790845
Toyota Type A and Type C engines called, told me to let you know that they're really a Chevy 207 Stovebolt engine.

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>>15790860
No. Unlike you, I don't blindly worship an engine because of and arbitrary cylinder configuration.

Here's another example of a god tier 4x4 light vehicle motor, that also happens to be a six.

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>>15790875
>this irrelevant example called
Cool story. Again, I'm in no way vested in the brand, there just happens to be fantastic 4x4 motors that coincidentally wear the Toyota badge.

>>15790891
Looks pretty sweet faggot I would drive it! But seriously you thought I was worth the effort of making a post even when I sound like a complete idiot? You just made my day anon!

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>>15790927
>lol, I'm an idiot, and because you engaged me, you're an idiot
Nice logic.
And finally, another god tier motor in this company that succeeded the six cylinders in absolutely every objective manner possible... Apart from turning a spanner on the thing. Swapping an alternator on this thing takes about four beers from start to finish, as opposed to the one beer for the older sixes.

>>15790952
No dude all wrong I'm an idiot, and instead of ignoring me you engaged me. I'm not arguing with you at all. And because of that you made my day better! With all sincerity thank you anon! :)

>>15790952
Is it better than an ls though?

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>>15790989
Well, now I think about it. Considering swapping an alternator on a 1VD takes longer than it does to simply swap in a whole LS, I guess not...

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>>15790911
>4x4 motors

>>15790952
>god tier motor
Kek I just love the special and unique brand of Toyfag delusion. Love it. How such a profitable company can fuck up so hard and so often is hilarious to me. How they can attract so many morons is even funnier.

http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?12898-D4D-problems-seems-VERY-widespread
http://www.perth4x4.net/forum/index.php?/topic/24242-d4d-owners-read-here/
https://www.tsikot.com/forums/toyota-cars-talk-80/list-toyota-d4d-probems-choking-hard-starting-etc-32584/

>>15791007
So if you had to build a DD street strip race track car what would you use? How about a DD offroad truck

>>15791032
cont.
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/answer/58531/increasing-oil-levels-with-yaris-diesel-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4qwFE8jTzc
http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/171641-oil-level-increasing-by-itself/
http://forum.rav4driversclub.com/topic2514.html

>all first page results
Wake up toyfags, you're just embarrassing yourselves.

>>15791036
4G63T, obviously.

>>15790866
I have no problem with V engines especially if they are big ole v8. My only condition is that they must be supercharged, otherwise twin scroll is the better option for more torque

>>15791050
>yaris
>rav4
please keep trying, stupid cunt

>>15791072
>first link is pradopoint
>widespread defective toyota diesels in general
And let the butthurt & damage control begin

>>15791082
prado doesnt have the v8 diesel, try again

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>>15791089
>plays semantic, get's punished for it
You fucked up. You shoudl have admitted it while you still had a chance, but you're squirming, to no avail. It's that delusion I was talking about earlier.

We've generally established Toyota's Jewry exceeds their product quality and they can't fucking make a diesel anymore, but what about the VD V8 engine by itself? Well.... this is just for you. I hope you enjoy the reading.
http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=86189
http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=128641
http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=57497
http://www.perth4x4.net/forum/index.php?/topic/20496-toyota-45-v8-problemsquestions/
http://www.autospies.com/news/Toyota-Landcruiser-4-5-V8-Diesel-miserably-fails-Auto-Motor-und-Sport-braking-test-27096/
http://au.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/28384-oil-consumption-v8-turbo-diesel/
http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/Topic/58783/Toyota_LC_ute_New_70_series_V8_turbo_diesel_problems.aspx
http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?20785-V8-Turbo-land-cruiser-Problems
(All first page results)

>>15791117
>plays semantic, get's punished for it
no, you try shit talk a particular engine while posting links that arent even related to it.
keep trying though, its cute

>one of the links is complaining about how the brakes on a 3000kg suv are weak and take time to warmup
really nigger, thats all you got. roflmao

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>>15791152
>best you got
>literally first links on page 1
>oil consumption
>cylinder washing
>terrible fuel economy
>defective injectors
>engine replacements at 50-80k
>being this defective
>god tier
you got BTFO

>>15791117
>most other links about engine problems turn out just to be injectors that needed replacing
gg.

>>15791171
really though lad post some more links about rav-4s and a fucking yaris! ROFLMAO!

>so desperate to try and prove his bullshit assertion that he digs into completely irrelevant material
tip top kek

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>>15791177
>Toyota D4-D has it's own " List of Toyota D4D Probems "
>Thread is 162 pages
>toyfags absolutely obliterated

>>15791202
>toyota Innova
yeah, a minivan is real relevant! ROFLMAO!

>this fucking desperate he just makes himself look like an idiot
a bit sad desu but too funny

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>>15791213
>2016
>30billion annual net
>can't manage to make a proper diesel of any config
This is great!!

>>15791226
>2016
>so mad at toyotas god tier twin turbo diesel v8 that you scrounge around the internet posting links about yaris, Innova, and rav4 diesels having problems with injectors
SO
FUCKING
DESPERATE
ROFLMAO

>time to trigger to gm fangirl
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2015/06/2015-corvette-z06-engine-reportedly-fails-after-just-6-miles/

>>15791243
>i wonder what a real V8 diesel looks like
Observe toyfag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=o6YVEkl5pbs#t=326

>>15791273
cool but can it go off road?

>>15791226
>>15791213
>>15791273
Fuck off feggits
Real diesels for real hard work ate made by toyota, and you can verify that if you go anywhere in the world other than the us

>>15791497

Good luck towing a 20k lb tow hauler with a 2.nothing liter diesel Hilux. People in the US have toys that need hauling.

>>15789578
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fUCzeCrFBnE

>>15791032
>b-b-but mah 1KD!
All those examples you've linked have absolutely nothing to do with the 1VD. Good job, and pro-tip, D4D is not an engine. It's nothing more than Toyota marketing for their direct injection diesels.
>unique brand of Toyfag delusion
As I literally said here >>15790911
"I'm in no way vested in the brand, there just happens to be fantastic 4x4 motors that coincidentally wear the Toyota badge".
Keep up the shitposting though.

>>15791273
>an Isuzu diesel
Yep, Isuzu build some strong commercial powerplants too.
Interesting to note, alot of the 6.6 Duramaxes have their own set of issues too.
https://www.reference.com/vehicles/common-mechanical-problems-chevy-diesel-trucks-e5245715fd7cfb6d
>Chevrolet diesel trucks use the 6.6 liter Duramax engine, which is prone to intermittent fuel starvation, water pump failure, overheating, injector failure and injector harness chafing

I don't think there's too many commercial engines out there that hasn't left anecdotal problematic reports.

>>15791273
>the most redneck sport
And you're calling them fags