>"So, the M4 GTS is 2 seconds faster around Laguna than a regular M4, making it about as fast as a Chevy Camaro SS with a 1LE handling package that costs a third as much. Oh, and a $75,000 Mustang GT350R is a 1.6 embarrassing seconds faster than the GTS."
Is this seriously the best BMW can do with a $135,000 car? You can't even bitch about benchracing because this is a stripped out track-car you can barely drive on the road without scraping over everything. Fucking pathetic.
>"muh German engineering" gets proven to be a huge fucking meme once again
What else is new
thats cool OP, but that also means the mustang is faster than a camaro
Ford wins yet again
>GT350R mazda raceway
>1:36
>Z/28 mazda raceway
>1:38
GM BTFO yet again.
>>15766634
>>15766600
Can someone put the Mustangs time next to the BMW, I'm on mobile and want to troll a friend who's a rapid bimmerfag.
>>15766701
They didn't actually show the Camaro and Mustang times, you'll have to do some photoshop magic. All we know is that the GT350R did it in 1:36 which puts it roughly in step with the 458 Italia and AMG GT S
>>15766719
Why do yuros even bother making """"performance"""" cars anymore at this point?
>>15766719
What did the old boss 302 LS run? I remember it was on par with a R8.
>>15766748
>a high-tech German supercar gets matched by a Mustang with literal truck suspension
YUROP BTFO
water injection hold this
>>15766600
BMWfags on suicide watch
>>15766763
>faster than nazi superscience
>don't even need DCT to do it
These cars could shave off another second if they fell for the dual-clutch meme, but they didn't because manual is more fun. Axis powers lose again.
>>15766600
that really is embarassing. what the fuck bmw?
>>15766816
It's not like this type of thing hasn't happened before.
>>15766816
>M4 vs Camaro SS
>Motortrend says the Camaro blows it away
>750i vs S-class
>Motortrend says the S-class blows it away
>M4 GTS
>Motortrend says it is utterly useless around town, sounds like shit, and is unimpressive on a race track
Fucking savage, the only Bimmer they seem to like is the M2.
>>15766833
>>15766801
>slower than a Ford powered go-kart
>>15766849
>cucktric measurements
>>15766849
Trying to trigger me? Too bad, I love my Ford.
>>15766849
>1200 pounds
Damn.
>>15766849
wow, the viper matches the BAC and its road legal and fits 2 people. The viper truly is the world's greatest performance car.
>>15766849
BAC would most likely be slower everywhere else.
>>15766885
What is that? a Focus ST?
>>15766844
With the M4 GTS there really are no excuses. I can see the normal M4 being slower due to being more luxurious and such but the GTS is a fucking $120k stripped out, caged, race car.
what an absolute joke.
>>15766898
Fiesta ST, it's 4 lug.
>no proof
>>15766871
please refrain for posting your retarded imperial units
>>15766956
bmw BTFO
GM confirmed for god tier
>alphonse confirmed for booty blasted
>>15766956
>spoon feed me mommy
>>15766976
See
>>15766634
Isn't the M4 GTS faster around the ring than the GT350R? why is it slower or seemingly unimpressive here? don't tell me this smaller tighter track favors these heavier bulkier pony cars.
Also will Ferd ever make a sports car in the corvette price range? that'd be fantastic.
Money isn't an issue when shooting for 1000hp from an ls. Remember where the meme posts originated. Hotrod magazine made 1200hp on a $200 junkyard core 4.8 truck engine with stock heads and bottom end and a huge scar on one cylinder wall. Cheap as fuck to make power
>>15766980
I meant to quote >>15766894
>>15766980
Ford is god tier too, but BMW is shit tier
>>15766600
Nürburgring
>Chevy Camaro Z/28, 7:37:47
>Chevy Camaro ZL-1, 7:41:27
>Mustang GT350R, 7:32:19
>BMW M4 GTS, 7:28:00
Problem?
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a28826/bmw-m4-gts-first-drive/
https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/
https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/2015/03/ford-shelby-gt350r-sets-its-own-nurbugring-lap-time-record/
Im no BMW fan, but this is more of a cuck/faggot problem over in the EU. Car manufacturers are getting raped by their goverments along with buyers because of the engine size tax.
get rid of the faggots that have declared war on "assault engines" and BMW will be able to afford to make amazing engines again.
>>15766969
>being cucked by the French
No u
kek
>>15767014
kek
>>15767014
>cucked by the french
literally why america exist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty
>>15766906
>I can see the normal M4 being slower due to being more luxurious and such
Except it doesn't even match the equipment in the 2SS Camaro. You have to actually pay more to get leather.
>>15767013
What worries me is these guys are working on the new Supra. is this the kind of Performance we can expect if it'll be on a BMW platform?
>>15767001
>Using numbers from the previous generation of Camaro
>>15767045
Then correct the record, you fucking faggot.
>>15767040
This is the main concern with the new Supra. BMW engines just aren't good anymore. They sound like shit, aren't particularly powerful, aren't all that reliable, and don't have dipsticks.
First Toyota gets Subaru to put a pancake in their GT86, now this? Why is Toyota so lazy they can't even build a sports car engine?
>>15767045
>new gen camaro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyWNiKpcNoQ
>>15766939
I love it when people brag about their cars having a 4-lug pattern, as if it makes any fucking difference other than the slightest bit of weight. In fact, 5-lug wheels are better due to being able to fit a wider selection of tires, usually.
>>15767388
That's not even my car, just pointing out a way to easily tell it's a FiST not a FoST.
>>15767543
My bad
>>15767054
i smell a 2jz swap
>>15767566
Isn't it illegal to swap an older engine into a newer car? US law anyways I think.
How have BMW fags not killed themselves yet? Are their BMW's too slow to hit a wall at lethal speeds?
>>15766600
YUROPOOR here, only niggas and sandniggas even consider buying a bmw or merco-benz, and will do it no matter what. shitty car they can put out.
Yuropoor out/
>>15768572
meh, i dont like the newer BMWs much anyway. i\d even wager the E46 CSL is faster than the GTS around laguna seca, but i cant seem to find a time for it
>>15767578
How would that be illegal? Unless you live in some retard state with emissions/inspections in which case GTFO and go to Florida
>>15766600
As a current gen BMW owner that really is sad. Sure you can trot out a Nurburgring time or some other shit like that but a 6 figure stripped out track car from BMW should handily beat any Camaro on any track. Honestly wish there was an American/Japanese sporty coupe that had the practicality and interior refinement of a 4 series, I want to switch but BMW offers a good overall package.
>THE M4 GTS IS SLOW
>BMW haters actually believe this