why is smart so shit

>>15719530
cause they are not very smart

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>>15719538

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>Fiat

kek, such a fucking shitbrand

>>15719551
DIESEL FIAT

>volvo third from last
Horseshit

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>>15719530
>Honda and Scion below Jeep
and you believe that chart means anything?

>>15719530
Because they know they don't need good quality products to sell to the dumbasses that buy their cars. Its all hipster fucks and girls that think the cars are "cute"

>>15719564
>being this triggered

>>15719564
Honda hasn't been good since the early 2000's

They're riding on a meme at this point. Scion was always trash

>>15719564
The real question is why would J.D power would advertise a brand, before throwing them to the bottom of the list.

>>15719560
FIX
ORT
RGAIN
DONY

>>15719574
just because you wish they still made EG6s doesn't mean new hondas are less reliable than jeeps. same deal with scions.

>>15719583
to look impartial

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>>15719583
fuckin kek

pic related its my captcha

>>15719530
its designed to be inexpensive, and the amount of cost savings and size savings have cut into its reliability, also it's manufactured by mercedes, and the american spec car has a mitsubishi sourced engine
>tl'dr
>recipe for shit

>>15719564

Well you have to think Honda just introduced turbos to there cars for the first time, so they are gonna have some teething issues for the first year or so.

Scion has always had a bunch of issues, hell I dont think ive ever seen a TC without the plate light thing missing from the hatch.

Wtf I love Kia now

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>>15719530
>implying "initial quality" is something that actually matters and we should seriously care about

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This is the result of the survey we need to know for our own good

Hue

>>15720590
>implying consumers should have to play mechanic after paying for a brand new vehicle besides basic maintenance and servicing

I dunno, even at "the BEST," Kia still has 83 problems reported for every 100 cars sold. Hell, the industry average is more problems than cars. Is the reporting for this "actual" found issues, or just every time some asshole does stupid shit?

>>15721403
>implying that's what's happening here

Being unable to setup bluetooth is something they give points for on there.

>>15719530
Did you expect the biggest money-loser in automotive history to be good?

kia lookin good

>>15719530
Honda less reliable than Dodge Ram. Wow they are completely floating on old brand loyalty and their old record for reliability in the 80's and 90's

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>>15720605
Ford worse than FIAT. Shit, it;s worse than smart. topkek.

>>15721780
>Being unable to setup bluetooth is something they give points for on there.
[citation needed]

>>15719530
>still posting that misleading INITIAL quality study

Fucking off korean dog eater

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>>15719530
>Kia and Hyundai at the top of the list
>VW ahead of Subaru
>Most FCA brands ahead of Honda, Mazda and Subaru
>Mazda at almost the very bottom

>>15719564
>initial quality

The issue with JD power ratings is that any problem has the same weighting

A Buick blowing its transmission is 1 point - same as a broken sunvisor on A Honda

Everything is 1 point. That's why initial quality surveys are fucked from JD

>>15721780
> pay for a feature
> it doesn't work
Gee whizz

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>>15722584
>pay for a feature
>can't read instruction manual because typical american consumer
>"it doesn't work!!!!!!!!"

Nice initial report that means absolute nothing, faggot.

korean cars are mediocre pieces of shit with no redeeming qualities.

>>15719530
Bmw literally at the top.

Where are anti BMW cucks now?

>>15722780
see >>15720605

>>15722793
thanks.

Still better than average, meme should die.

>JD Power
>2016
every year

>>15720605
>Buick (a fucking Vauxhall) 3rd
>GMC right after Toyota
do americans actually believe this?

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>>15722832

>>15722643
>thinks Americans are dumb
>thinks Americans can figure out a BMW instruction manual
Pick one and only one.

>>15719530

Porsche, what are you doing!?

>>15719530
>kia at the top
>volvo at the bottom

study invalidated

>>15722832
They do and it's hilarious imo. JD Power threads are my favourite.

Automated manual transmission.

>>15719563
>horseshit
No need to be redundant, it already says "JDPower" on it

>>15720605
I always find it interesting how much RAM sticks out from the rest of the FCA marques. Spinning them off from Dodge was a smart move... for Ram, at least.

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>>15719530
They must count people tipping them over