Would it be possible to comfortably drive a GTR on a regular

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Yes. And you can outperform corvette's at the same time

>>15709556
No.

>>15709556
That's kind of why most rich people buy one. It's a beater supercar for all weather.

>>15709556
Unlike most supers it's got an actual boot, so yeah. It's probably why I see so damn many in the parking lot at work.

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>>15709556
Grandma does it.

>>15709556
You can but it doesn't have the best ride and is quite noisy in the cabin

If you can deal with those, it is a pretty good grocery getter

>>15709556
Yes. The 2017 GT-R was improved on so many areas especially the ride-quality. Look up the reviews and see what I'm taking about.

>>15709556
yes if you're rich.

http://www.gtrlife.com/forums/topic/59409-basic-fluid-change-costs/

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yes, unlike corvettes, GTRs don't explode after just 6 miles

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c7-z06-discussion/3650835-c7-zo6-blown-motor-with-6-miles.html

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Yes.

The only one you shouldn't buy is the "Track Edition".

The Skyline GT-R was always the usable all weather sports car since the early 1970s.

>>15709556
wasn't this thread posted a few days ago


the whole point of the gt-r has always been to be a comfortable & practical street car that you can take to the track and lap good times with

>>15709774
This times a thousand. And engine out for major services

>>15709560
You must be a huge fag.

>>15709774
Why not use cheap fluid

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>>15709559

>>15712370
Why not just put a piece of metal in the fan blade. I mean what could go wrong right?

>>15712453
nice hyperbole i bet you get mad pussy with that.

>>15709556
>4 seats
>awd
>fuckhueg

sure why not, basically what it's for

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>>15714403
>basically what it's for
and to trigger GM fangirls

>>15711632
>You must be a huge fag.
>Whaaaa, mommy he doesn't like what I like!

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>>15709556
Yes

The earlier year models of the R35 are pretty harsh to ride but the latest 2017 model is so well-tamed and comfortable unless you choose the Nismo version which is obviously for track racing, as the new chief director of the GTR called Tamura Hiroshi decided to give the normal version a softer and more luxurious character than ever.

>>15714711
digital dash is so cancerous. they should have given suede as an option

who the fuck thought the nissan beak was a good idea

>>15714711
Its gotten better but that shifter is just atrocious

I drove one a couple weeks ago. The driving experience is pretty raw. The 2017 is supposed to be more refined though. It's definitely DD-able . Also, maintaining a GTR as a DD would be expensive af. Oil changes are like $800, you'll need $2k for tires every 20k miles, transmission/diff fluid is >$1k, brakes are gonna run $3k too.

It's one thing to buy an R35, but they wouldn't be able to afford maintaining the car. I was gonna save up to buy one, but I'm gonna wait until I can comfortably afford owning one. In the meantime, a WRX will do the trick.

>>15709570
It has a big boot for lots of lil things but the opening is small so fitting one big thing won't work, even if it fits inside.

Good daily supercar thoigh

>>15715133
Those prices are fucked up.

it has none of the lines of a supercar. it looks more like a pony car with its flat nose.

>>15709556
the other day I was at a job interview, and I saw a GT-R in the parking lot in front of the building the interview took place in. I parked in front of it just for shits

I coincidentally got back to my car at the same time as the guy who owned the GT-R. he was this goofy looking guy in his mid 40's with a mustache and glasses, he kinda reminded me of ned flanders. he had on the outfit of a surgeon, so he probably works at, or owns one of the medical offices in the building.

so to answer your question, OP, you could probably daily drive a GT-R to get to work and get groceries if you have the money to maintain it

>>15715324
it wasn't supposed to look like a supercar, quite the opposite in fact

>>15709774
>http://www.gtrlife.com/forums/topic/59409-basic-fluid-change-costs/

I like how casually they talk about $1,500 oil changes.

>>15715324
It's not supposed to look like a European supercar. If you see some of the marketing materials and interviews out there they were fairly adamant that the design had to be "uniquely Japanese" and that it was "inspired by Gundam".

>>15715377
>>15715327
Why is the oil pricey? can't you use any dct fluid?

Do I YOLO my £100K on a GTR or buy a Scirocco and save the rest for a houe?

>>15717744
By a Gtr with a blown tranny for 30k can rebuild it wth racing spec parts. It'll be more fun.

>>15717744

Buy a house you fucking idiot

>>15714711
Wow. It just got better at last. I'm glad it looks less-truckish in interior design now.

>>15717744

House first, always - a car depreciates hard from the second you buy it.

Also you can spot used GTRs for £40-50k with decent mileage etc.

>>15715377
You can't read that well.

>>15717769
>>15717754

Couldn't I sleep in the GTR and use service stations for food and washing?

>>15709556
It's designed to comfortably benchrace other shitposters and their respective favourite memecar without actually owning one. But yes, I guess you can use it to get to work or the supermarket if you lose your bus pass.

>>15717809

>if you lose your bus pass.

Here's the catch - there's no bus route to where I work.

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>>15709556
>shit ride
>noisy
>shit interior from a Versa
>cramped as fuck inside
>useless back seats
>tiny trunk
>expensive as fuck maintenance
>can literally only use certified parts and fluids from Nissan otherwise the computers throw a shit fit

Honestly the best DD supercar is probably the Porsche 911

>>15717834

For a higher price.

>>15717836
>2016 Nissan GTR MSRP - $102,770
>2016 Porsche 911 MSRP - $89,400

>>15717844

>2016

>>15717845
IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR

>>15717834
To be fair, the Germans invented only being able to use oem fluids or the computers freak out

>>15717847

Well I'd never buy a 2016 when it's nearly double the price of one slightly older.

>>15717850
And Nissan somehow perfected it

Maybe Porsche is just different than other German manufacturers, but their engines aren't as fragile and can take a beating
>30k kms oil change intervals
>can use launch control 50+ times in a row without the car overheating, throwing a shit fit, and going into limp mode

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>>15717859
Point is that the 911 is cheaper. It's not 2007 anymore where the GTR sold for $60k

>>15717876

>point is that the 911 is cheaper

Maybe in America.

>>15717859
You'd never buy a GTR because you can't afford it new or used

>>15717882

Not at the moment but I'm close, I'll have it by Christmas when my December paycheck comes in.

>>15717883
Sure you will, buddy

And then you'll try to sell it when you see the repair and maintenance bills

>>15717899

I've factored in repair and maintenance bills, I earn enough.

>>15717905
We believe you

>>15717918

Cool, I don't give a shit - merely responding to this;
>>15717882

"never"

>>15717880
Where do you live where 911s are unobtainabley expensive but a GTR isn't?

>>15717883
What year are you looking at?

>>15717933

I didn't say 'unobtainabley expensive' - just more expensive.

Looking at 2012-2013's mostly - the 911's are more expensive in that bracket.

>>15717944
Anon if you really want to daily drive one of these, a 911 is far more forgiving and easy with maintenance. Stupid reliable as well, second to Lexus
Those older GTRs are pretty miserable on the road, the interiors are lacking and cramped and the DCT is jerky

But if it's a weekend car, go ahead and get the GTR you want

>>15717744
Don't buy depreciating assets unless you're okay with burning your money in a very literal sense.

I really fail to see what's wrong with getting a clean used car. There are always going to be people that want to sell their stuff, find a fairly clean used GT-R and restore it from any neglect if you really, really want a GT-R right this minute.

I personally cannot fathom the concept of buying a new car unless you have the finances to buy and maintain one outright without any loans.

>>15718011
>I personally cannot fathom the concept of buying a new car unless you have the finances to buy and maintain one outright without any loans.
This is basically what my dad does. Bought an Accord brand new in cash and plans on driving it for a long ass time

He also bought a 2 year old S Class in cash, because he could use the other 50% savings from the depreciation to invest in stuff

>>15718028
I really, really fail to see why people get a new car every 2 years other than to get something new for the sake of new.

Sitting in a car made in 2016 is not appreciably different from one made in 2000. A 2016 Camry is significantly more expensive than a clean, mint XV30 Camry and realistically there is very little difference between the two as far as fuel efficiency goes. And the 2005 Camry would be better because it doesn't have a shitty fucking infotainment system that barely works.

>>15717966

I don't like the 911 despite stated reliability and maintenance because it's not AWD.

I may actually end up going for a RS instead of the GTR because it is much cheaper and still great, but the GTR is still on the bucket list.

Also considering the WRX - but it is beat by both the RS and the GTR.

>>15718068
>because it's not AWD.

what is the carrera 4S

>>15718080

Unfortunately no traders are stocking any beyond 2011.

>>15718068
Get a decent 996 Turbo for less than a new 911.

Seriously, if you don't have the money to buy exactly what you want new, a used car is always a good idea. You just have to search for the truly well-maintained examples.

>>15718093
>996

lmao dude

>>15718096
Any problems?

>>15718093

I was talking about used in the post, I'd never buy new.

Also dunno why I'd get a 996 when I can get a '16 plate RS or WRX for around half the price.

>>15718096
There's literally nothing wrong with a 996 Turbo.

If your complaint is that it isn't a 993 fuck off, no one really cares.

>>15718102
the only people that buy 996 are boyracers and shitskins pretending to be rich

>>15718116
t. bus rider

>>15718106
>getting shittier cars because they're newer
>comparing boi racer cars to a 911 Turbo

>>15718128
pls stop calling the 996 turbo a 911 turbo

thanks

>>15718128

Because I'm looking for boi racer cars?

Why do you think I've got a GTR, RS and WRX in the list?

>>15718106
For one, a 996 turbo is faster than a Focus RS or WRX. It was faster than the R34 GT-R at its inception. It has a better AWD system than either the Focus RS or WRX because it's RWD by default with a 5/95 split going up to 40/60 depending upon the commanded lock-up of the center diff so it feels more like an RWD car that can rocket out of corners.

It also can have a nicer interior than most Focus RSes and WRXes. A WRX still looks like a Camry on the inside, this is indisputable. It already has more power than either the Focus RS or the WRX and corners better than either of them. The 996 Turbo has a far better aftermarket than a Focus RS too.

It may not be as fast as an R35 but if you don't want an R35's early series issues with NVH and questionable transmission reliability the 996 Turbo is absolutely worth consideration. Don't write it off just because it's not a "true 911 Turbo".

>>15718134
It's a 911, and it says Turbo on the back

Did a 996 molest you as a child?

>>15718151

I didn't write it off - the point was the '16 plate - I'm looking for 2012 earliest.

>>15718151
Mezger engines are also stupid reliable

>inb4 someone posts a picture of the interior and calls it shit just by appearance alone

>>15718164
>>15718136
So you're a Boi racer looking for a shiny new car? Want us to follow your Instagram as well?

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>>15718157
>996 being a real 911

lmao dude

>>15718174

I'm just looking for a good sports car for my money at 2012 or newer.

I'd love the 911 turbo but they mark the newer ones up here.

My boss has one. He averagse only fucking 10 litres when normal daily driving the car. Thats insane for the amount of power it can push

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>>15718174
>996 fanboi calling others boi racers

holy shit

>>15718176
>>15718185
And the shitposters come put of the closet

You guys should try driving some cars once in a while before talking about them

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>>15718191
>996

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>he couldnt afford a real 911

>>15718134
If Porsche put the actual model name on the badge, it would be a lot easier to keep them straight.

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>>15718191
>calls me shitposter
>recommends a 996

>>15718209
>>15718198
>>15718202
>>15718185
>>15718176
>>15718116


samefag

>>15718257
thank you for the (You)s

996 a shit tho

>>15718257
He's actually doing a great job, people like him keep the prices down even though the 996 is mechanically very similar to the 997

>>15717834
Or the attainable Cayman. I test drove the Cayman GTS last week and baby that was so smooth.

>>15717844
I would love the base Carerra (not 4S AWD) with that manual and live the rest of my life with it.

>>15718272
the Carrera S is also available with manual

just sayin

>>15718272
>>15718287
One reviewer said that the new "turbo" base model 911 is actually the best to drive because it's the lightest, has the least computer interference, a regular manual, and the Turbos are normal and not the variable geometry kind like the S models and up so it's peaky like an old school 930

>>15714427
The question wasn't whether you liked it or not tho.
>I don't like it so it's shit

>>15717744

Shut up and buy a Civic.

>>15717744
YOLO is carpe diem for retards, an excuse to act like a preteen idiot

>>15715393
Wouldn't this make Nissan a favorite of /o/ and 4chan in general

>>15718305
>computer interference

this is such a shitty thing to say. computers helped make cars to begin wtih. the fact they assist in your driving experience is not a negative. what if i want to be able to drive while talking to someone but still hit turns at over 100mph?

>>15718530
Then go play Forza

>>15718543
your mom plays with my nuts

>>15717834
>water cooling
no

>>15718821
>complaining about something that is objectively inferior

>>15718878
>posting something that is objectively inferior

>>15718902
Please tell me how the air cooled engines are better than the water cooled engines

>>15718902
>>15718909
My point was air-cooled is better, no coolant leaking everywhere and that dumb shit.

Just simple engineered perfection. Only phased out for mass production goals.

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>>15718909
>Why is having a fluid pumped around a line that can break and cause your engine to immediately fail irreparably so bad gaiiz?!?

are you really this inept. wew.

>>15718927
>>15718935
Because the one thing Porsche has been known for is failing cooling systems, right?

>only phased out for mass production goals
And emissions and increased power density to keep up with the competition

Even your precious 959 and 993 Turbo used water cooling

>>15718513
Judging by the sheer number of weebs talking about Initial D on this site and the number of retarded GTR vs Z06 posts the answer is probably yes.

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>>15717834
>recommending a 911 as a better daily driver than the GTR

Oh my poor child.

>>15718935
>why is having an engine cooled by the air that is useless if you are stuck in traffic or its over 100F outside so bad guize

tldr you are retarded

>>15714711
the new interiors have been shit imo

where is the pure barebones speed feeling

fuck off with this excessive luxury
when the gtr ditched the skyline tag, it should have left all semblance of luxury with it.

>>15718927
>My point was air-cooled is better, no coolant leaking everywhere and that dumb shit.

Bullshit. Air cooled high HP engines only work ideally in aircraft radials due to excess of ram air.

Air cooled auto engines tend to run hot and have shorter top end lives. It's harder to upgrade their cooling systems effectively vs. easily adding a custom, or additional, radiators.

That's why very high output sportbike engines dumped liquid cooling years ago. Fins, even close pitch fins, can't cope.

The ultimate air cooled auto engine is probably the Porsche 917, but race cars get rebuilt every race if needed so longevity was no issue.

Show us a modern air cooled F1 car.

>>15709556
Yes.

The rich Chinese exchange students over here do it. And as it turns out the ones in sports cars are the only ones that can drive.

>>15709556
Yes, I spent a day driving one in Japan and it was the most comfortable car I've ever driven. Just set the suspension to comfort mode and drive.

>>15720653
It's because you drove in Japan. It's much less comfortable on shitty broken US roads.

will a gtr always be so pricey to pay for oil, tires, and brakes? i feel like that's the limiting factor here.

>>15715724
because supercar

>>15720352
That's actually a pretty deep trunk, the front diff for the AWD models like that one take up some space though
And you also have the back seats that fold down for even more storage. Some models even have a rear hatch

>>15721412
Yeah, maintenance is Ferrari tier with GTRs

>>15717783
The same as in you can use a box.

It is possible but not the wisest choice.

>>15720352
>>15721453
>no engine in the back for a full on front trunk
in le trash

>>15721517
wut

>>15721462
but why? i thought nissans were cheap.

>>15721597
doesn't changing your oil to non oem also void it? i would be getting one used so it wouldn't have one anyway. why care?

>>15721622
no idea
a new trans is $30k tho

>>15720681
I own and daily drive a 2015 nissan GTR. The cost to run it is not different then any other car of it's class. Once start getting into performance cars with 400+hp the cost to run is a lot more then a standard car

You can run aftermarket DCT fluid in it and in a lot of cases it's recommended, because the stock Nissan fluid is pretty poor quality and very expensive. Dodson is a hell of a lot better then the stock fluid and a little cheaper but you are still looking at around 700 bucks just for the fluid because it takes 12 quarts.

In my old EVOX MR I had the DCT transmission and when I had it changed it was around 800 bucks at the dealer. Every DCT transmission is expensive as far as maintenance goes.

The brakes on the GTR is actually a lot cheaper then a lot of the cars in it's class because they are cast iron. A set of brakes for the GTR is about 4k from the dealer. If you go aftermarket j-hook rotors which is better for the street because they are not drilled like the stock units they are about 1800 for a set. For comparison the carbon ceramic brakes on the z06 is 10k from the dealer. The same goes for the audi R8, RS5 or just about any car with carbon ceramic rotors.

Engine oil is just about the cheapest thing on a GTR since the manual calls for regular old mobil 1 0w-40 which can be bought from Walmart for 30 bucks for 5 quarts.

The prices the dealers charge for an oil change vary a lot, because lets face it they don't call them stealerships for nothing. For my GTR I got quoted a price anywhere between 120 to change the engine oil to 400 bucks.

Any high performance car will eat tires. My old ZL1 required a new set of rear tires just about every 10k and a complete set every 20k. My evo needed tires every 25k and a z06 corvette needs them every 5k. Those numbers are of course with out track time as that can kill tires after 1 time.

The GTR tax is very real and a lot of people over pay because they just don't know any better.

>>15721652
man i don't believe that for a minute. ebay kits go for 15K. at that point you should just by two salvage title GTRs and part them.

>>15715133
Oh fuck off.
No oil change is worth 800 fucking dollars

>>15721574
Because the BorgWarner/Nissan GR6 is a custom design and doesn't share much with others and is specced for a unique transmission fluid. The cheapest I saw for that was 38 dollars per liter or 380 dollars per fluid drain/fill. OEM ATF for the GR6 is 65 dollars a liter.

Tires are expensive because why would you cheap out on the single most important thing for performance? Michelin PSS have never been cheap.

Everything else is pretty cheap as far as the GTR goes. Regular oil, fuel filter, and oil filter.

>>15721652
That's the old cost when they first came out. Now dealers charge around 7k for a new transmission but changing to aftermarket fluid can cause transmission warranty issues, but if you do it your self it's going to be very hard to tell that you didn't use the stock fluid. There was a case of a GTR member using aftermarket and then the transmission taking a shit afterwards.

The dealer and local rep fought the warranty claim because they knew it had aftermarket fluid in it since they were the ones that put it in. It finally took him lawyering up and the second he did that rep caved in and honored the warranty. A lot of the warranty denys on GTRs are coming from the local dealer/rep because they can over charge the customer for parts and labor. When corporate is paying for it they can't do that and they lose a lot of extra money. The only denys coming from corporate now a days is when the car have a tune on them.

>>15721664
what are some good price tires for the gtr? im planning to get a 2011 model for cheap in the future when im done university. also how do you feel about the launch control?

>>15721811
your going to want to run MPSS which give a lot better grip, ride quality and life then the stock dunlop run flats. When I had my tires replaced I believe it was around 1500 bucks for all 4 from discount tire.

>>15717744
Buy an apartment complex near a university and then buy a GT-R and a house

>>15721811
If you want a GTR I would look for 2012+ model so you get the update GR6 transmission.

After 2009 launch control wasn't really a problem anymore for warranty claims since nissan lowered the rpm for launch control. Also if you get a 2012 you don't have to turn off traction control to launch the car, since they enabled launch control with the VCD on. For the 2012+ models the black box no longer even logs launches and it's impossible to tell if it's been launched. The black box will still log transmission temps and that can still be a very big tattle tell if the cars been beat on.

For any used GTR before you buy it I would have a Nissan pull the black box data and give it to you. They will normally charge you around 120 bucks for the service but it will give you how the cars been treated it's whole life. The dealer is the only one who can pull that data as it requires special software.

>>15721731
Wait why not use regular transmission oil?

>>15722852
Because if the formulation isn't of the correct spec then you could easily fuck up seals and other components that aren't designed for some normal ATF? There's no question that you would void your warranty instantly.

>>15722852
Because a DCT transmission is not a normal automatic. If you open up a DCT they look like a hybrid between an automatic and a standard. The front half with the clutches looks kind like an automatic while the back half with the gears looks like a standard with the shift forks.

You have to run at a minimum DCT fluid with DCT transmission. If you don't your going to screw up the wet clutches. Also not all DCT fluid is the same. On my EVO MR you had to run the Mitsubishi fluid because anything else eat the internal electrical components up.

With the GR6 in the GTR isn't a little less picky but I would still stay with either the stock fluid, dodson or the motul as those have been proven not to cause any issues in the long run. The amsoil DTC fluid can issues with the GTR's GR6 as it's a little to thin.

>>15711512
Best part about this photo

>corvette driver looking at the GTR

>>15724052
>"Fug...why didn't i get godzirra.."

>>15717769
na houses suck
>Flood
>Fire
>government doubling land tax
>bank foreclosing on your fully paid up and mortgage free house
>police and criminals alike busting down your door for no good reason
>insurance doing everything inhumanly possible not to pay out
>land defaults to federal ownership if you die without will or any living recipients

there is not really anything that legally assures ownership of property

>>15724793
just live on non-incorperated land

>>bank foreclosing on your fully paid up and mortgage free house

how in the fuck can this happen?

>>police and criminals alike busting down your door for no good reason

alarms/doggo/ar15

>>15724052
>other guy is just chillin with his sun glasses

>>15724808
>bank foreclosing on your fully paid up and mortgage free house
how in the fuck can this happen?

come 2008 allot of debit collection agencies tried it on
they don't really care if you try and fight it
same kind of company's that pursue misattributed speeding fines even after the police and deputes tribunal have ordered them not to

>alarms/doggo/ar15
pretty much
just ask the police what laws are if not backed up with violence and cruelty