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does anybody have a pic of this guy welding

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does anybody have a pic of this guy welding
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>>15699641
heartbreaker does
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>>15699644
can you tell him to post it pls
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>>15699641

>neo japonesque
>dubai

kinda cringed
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how much does he charge people for those garden lips on the front end?

the kids on haggard garage do the same shit and have same welds
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Is that the hobo that gets flown around the world to destroy Porsches?
What a world we live in
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>>15699897
Nip Foose
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>>15699666
nice trips
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>>15699641
How much do people pay him?
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wtf i hate 911s now
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>>15699903
>Nip Foose
>>15699949
That is a rough cut. We would all do the same thing, get most of the material out of the way. I can't believe I was enough of an idiot to post that here however many months ago.
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>>15699690
its $22k for the entire RWB kit
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>>15699969
>We would all do the same thing

No we fucking wouldn't because hacking up a 911 fender with a sawzall is fucking retarded.
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cringing desu

also the kid who got it looks like nick nitro from small soldiers lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C30ihG-Ozko
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>>15699988

That's literally how the GT2s were made
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>>15700025
I guarantee you Porsche didn't hack it up like that.

The guys an amateur with high school shop class-tier welds
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I have it
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>>15700132
Also have this one of his tool kit
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That chink literally copies the 993 GT2 and makes milions.
>rich stancefags
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>>15700146
That looks like my workstation.

Except I just maintain my shitbox, I don't build expensive air cooled 911's.
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>>15700061
Anon, ROUGH. CUT. It's just to get most of the material out of the way before doing the nice final cut.
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>>15699666
Dem trips boi
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>>15700146
Why do i see fucking wood screws in there lol
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>>15700231
Probably self-tapping plastic screws. Still bad, but less so. Anybody have the 350z bodykit fail where they used wood screws?
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>>15699949
Literally fuck my shit up senpai
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>>15699641
it's screencaped from that "gopro japan in 4k" video

go watch it
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i bet in 20 years the people who spent all their money on these things are going to feel so embarrised
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>>15700248
I actually wouldn't be surprised if they were wood screws. I've seen a few RWB cars up close and some friends have been to the live build events they've done here, and Nakai is an absolute hack.
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>>15700752
do you think they are magically going to wake up one morning with self awareness?

as long as dipshit normies think it's cool people will continue to buy them.
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I don't know, Nakai may not take the most care when building the cars but I think that's part of the charm. I mean if I was in the market for another toy and I had the budget I would definitely look for a clapped out 911 that could be stripped down and let him do his thing. As long as I could sort out the suspension into something that is actually track worthy and drop a LS into the back of it I think it would be a great car.
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>>15699641
I'm sure you're completely aware that it was his own personal car and that he likely didn't have the time to do it "good" because he likely has a million customer cars to work on.
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>>15700248
My buddy's Evo had wood screws in the wheel wells, I guess they were holding up the side skirt but we took them out and nothing happened.
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>ridiculing the decisions of those who have attained wealth and use it in a way that makes them happy and harms nobody
>calling nakai a hack when many people want his services and pay extremely well for them

sure is poor and bitter in this thread. i think nakai is a genius for finding his niche and milking it
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>>15700248
Nope, at least two wood screws.
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>>15701011
(you)
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>>15701019
The guy obviously knows what he's doing, look at the body work, look at the paint, you can't get shit that clean without years of experience and hard work.
Body work is an art form and this guy is an artist.
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>>15700918
it says a lot what he might do someone else's car if he's ok with doing that to his own car

how many of his customers do you think inspect the welds on their cars?
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>>15700918
>not doing your very best work on your own car
>good welds somehow magically take ten times as long as boogering it up like an asshole
>this supposed time duress is so extreme that he can't take seconds out to put on a welding helmet
>"good" in quotations as though it's some nebulous liberal arts interpretation and there aren't thousands upon thousands of industry standards and workmanship to display work that is good.

Is your head up your ass for the warmth?
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>>15701027
>body work
>literally cutting holes in the fender and bolting on plastic shit
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>>15701027
this. body work is completely different from engine tuning or other mechanical enhancement, so the whole "hurr durr he doesn't measure things" argument totally misses the point. /o/ does not understand form over function.
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>>15701036
>this is all he sees
God damn you're retarded.
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>>15701011
>when many people want his services and pay extremely well for them

Then eat shit, after all, 3 trillion flies can't be wrong.
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>>15701027
its preformed u nitwit all he does is bolt it on
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>>15701040
RWB MATTE BLACK KITS US$22,000
―FOR PORSCHE 930―

WIDE BODY KITS
Front bumper
Rear Bumper
Side Rockers Pair
Front Wide Fenders Pair
Rear Wide Fenders Pair
GT-2 or 3.8 type wing
Other small parts

WHEEL US$5,500
SSR Front 10.5J×2
SSR Rear 12J×2
Wheel Adapter (Rear only)
(Tire Size 265/35/18 and 295/35/18)

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CHAMPION WING US$1,300

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FENDER WING US$ 1,200
CANARD US$ 500
REFLECTER US$ 600
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>>15701041
>tfw you feel inadequate about your 35K annual income and 2001 honda accord
>tfw you vent by trashing the successful

i'm sorry, anon.
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>>15701086
not him but
> THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS THAT YOU CANT AFFORD IT. IF ITS SHIT ITS STILL GOOD CAUSE YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT
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>>15701086
I wasn't trashing anyone, I was pointing out that saying something is good because it's popular is rather shaky ground to plant your flag.
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>>15701042
>>15701054
Go ahead and put a body kit on and paint a car, show me how it turns out?
Do you see his paint quality, attention to detail?
The cars are aesthetically immaculate, they are art pieces.
You obviously don't understand how much time, effort and skill goes into body and paint work, most people dont.
You can easily get 200-300 hours into a paint job when you're after perfection, I know becuase I paint.
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>>15701027
> MrCrummy
> In charge of not having retarded opinions
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>>15701117
How well does Maaco pay these days?
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>>15701117
wow u do a blue collar job congrats.
ive painted panels it's fucking piss easy.
its all prep and finishing.

where do you think you are?
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>>15701098
>>15701114
i'm not arguing that popular = good, but RWB's popularity is a pretty good sign that he's not a hack. you can hold whatever opinion you like, but he has a reputation for doing work that people are satisfied with, so it's weird to hear people call him a hack
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>>15699903
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>>15701156
>people are satisfied with

yeah.. people that dont know shit. because those are the only people who buy his garbage.

ive seen this vids of his completed cars on the track with the body panels flopping around like a lexan r/c car body.
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>>15701156
>i'm not arguing that popular = good, but RWB's popularity is a pretty good sign that he's not a hack.
But you literally are arguing that popular = good
He is demonstrably a hack, he makes ricey porsches for wealthy stancetards and the quality of his work is subpar at best as is demonstrated by the numerous pictures going around of his hackjob bullshit
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>>15701156
They're popular because they're cool-looking.

He definitely has talent as a car stylist, but his actual workmanship is horrible. Like I say, I've seen his stuff up close and friends have watched him work, and his quality is appallingly bad, it's just hidden under a mountain of Bondo.

I used to build track cars for a living, at a shop that specialized in roll cages and other fabrication, so I know a thing or two about how to build a car, and the quality's just not there with RWB's cars. They're static showpieces and not much more.
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>>15701156
It's exactly what you were implying, now you're just backpedaling and instead of stating it as irrefutable evidence now it's "a pretty good sign." Don't bullshit yourself. John Hennesey is incredibly popular with a loyal customer base but he has a long and sordid history of sleaze and hackery. People's opinions are nothing to go off of because people are finnicky, or will turn a blind eye to shoddy workmanship because they're invested (financially and sometimes even emotionally) in what they dropped a lot of money on. Popular opinion is nigh worthless when there's objective qualities to go off.
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>>15701143
I already know you don't know shit about painting just from this reply alone, painting very complex and there are lots of steps when it comes to applying a proper paint job, you gotta know what products to use when, what products can be layed on top of eachother, you have to know what grits sandpaper to use at what stages of the paintjob, the paint and sandpaper itself being incredibly expensive, 1 quart of epoxy primer is around 50-60 dollars (for the cheap stuff) with a gallon of chromabase coming in around 500-1000 dollars.
Clear is another 100-300 dollars per gallon.
The cost of all these materials plus stuff like paint guns, masking tape, masking paper, the labor and time of cleaning all the guns repeatedly, the labor of all the sanding and buffing, paint jobs can be OK or they can be perfection, and perfection is not cheap, it requires lots of skill and time.
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>>15701117
>Do you see his...attention to detail?
I see his welds. That tells me all I need to know about his attention to detail. You know how you're a painter and you can instantly spot how clean and precise his paint jobs are? Well, I'm a machinist and I can instantly spot how messy and lazy his mechanical work is.
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>>15701203
>painting is very complex
jesus give it a rest dude. literally anyone with any attention to detail and the ability to read can paint a car. i bet you think welding is complex too.
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>>15701203
I spent $3,500 on a "perfection" paint job once. Never again. You see, I like to actually drive my cars, and while having a flawless glassy finish was cool for a couple of weeks, it instantly ceased to be cool when a lump of road debris kicked up by a minivan marred my hood up. Even though I eventually got my insurance company to pay for a repaint at the same shop that did my car, it wasn't worth the anguish and pissing blood I did over it. I sold the car not too long ago and from now on I'll be fine with "OK" results, as long as they last. I don't want that mirror finish to agonize over again, it was more stress than it was worth to constantly worry about my expensive ass paint job, I want to enjoy my car not worry about how clean and perfect it looks.
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>>15701196
>>15701191
>>15701181
>>15701174
>quality of his work is subpar
>actual workmanship is horrible

holy shit lol, you guys actually don't understand this. why do you think designer clothing exists? obviously everybody could just buy well-made carhartt jackets and be done with it, but some people don't really care so much about muh workmanship. RWB is a successful brand, and he creates an aesthetic that appeals to a certain demographic. everything you're saying boils down to "i don't like thing"
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He doesn't paint the panels.
He doesn't make the panels.

He doesn't DO anything except screw them in and seal them with silicone.
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>>15701244
>everything you're saying boils down to "i don't like thing"
No, everything they're saying boils down to "it's a piece of shit"
Which is obviously factual.

Quit dickriding, you gay stancefag
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>>15700906
Or you could send it to people who know what the fuck they're doing and have something that isn't a slapped together turd.

>>15700918
Nigger, i half-ass my own car but i've never WELDED WITH MY EYES CLOSED
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>>15701143
>>15701117
The steps I went through to paint this finish panel are as followed:
wet coat of epoxy primer
coat of polyester high build primer
block with 220
coat of polyester high build primer
block with 220
coat of polyester high build
block with 220
coat of polyurthane primer to seal the polyester
block with 400
3 coats of base coat
3 coats of clear
All the sanding and time invested into just this one panel to get an absolutely perfect mirror finish was about 8 hours of work, consider doing an entire car, yeah.
After each primer application you have to fully disassemble and clean your spray gun, each time you do that you waste about 100ml of cleaning solvent and it takes about 10 min.
Not to mention all the wet sanding with 1200 grit and the buffing involved, the buffing compounds alone are 50 dollars/quart, the costs and labor involved in a show car paintjob are astronomical.
>>15701224
Who gives a flying fuck about some exhaust welds, they aren't critical welds.
By the way I also tig, mig and stick weld.
>>15701242
>i don't like nice stuff because I don't like to have to take care of my shit
How is this relevant at all to RWB cars?
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>>15701244
High fashion is made well you idiot.. that's the main reason people buy it.
You couldn't possibly be more naive if you tried.

Just accept it, you're a clueless teenager.
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>>15701249
>obviously factual

based on an irrelevant metric. saying that RWB is a hack because his welding isn't perfect is like saying that a stock corolla is shit because it can't go very fast. you just don't understand why people like it.
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>>15701269
All of the steps in this post are assuming you're starting off with a perfect panel as well, with some dings or dents and body/bondo work needed, the amount of labor goes up again on top of all that.
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>>15701276
>high fashion is made well you idiot.. that's the main reason people buy it

congratulations for saying the dumbest fucking thing in this whole thread.
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>>15701269
>these are the steps I did
you mean the same steps literally everyone does to paint literally any car sans maaco hacks. amazing.
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>>15701290
You're a fucking moron.

Do you see people in this thread complaining about the looks?
No. It's like a slighter more hardcore GT2, it looks good.

We're complaining that the person building it is a fucking hack who doesn't do anything properly. You don't see the shitty welds and the hacked out sheet metal under the body, which is what we're complaining about.

If the same kit was made by someone competent, nobody in this thread would have a problem with it.
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Itt: a bunch of le supreme enthusiasts whose only experience working on a car is changing oil trying to make themselves feel superior by belittling a world class builder
Literally kys you pathetic losers

>crying about cutting up a fender with a sawzall
Thats how it's done. End of story.
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>>15701305
I'm sure you're such a better builder
What's the name of your company people come from all over the world to be a customer of?
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>>15701269
>>i don't like nice stuff because I don't like to have to take care of my shit
Nice strawman dickbreath. Try the truth
>I don't want a perfect paint job because it's too much stress to worry about things you have no control over ruining it
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>>15701301
Yeah, go take your car to a paint shop that isn't maaco and lets see if your car comes out looking like a mirror.
It will not, there will be imperfections, there will be flaws, perfect paintjobs are not done cheaply, expect a good job to cost you 10k easily.

>>15701313
b-but it's not a porsche brand sawzall, he's a fucking hack!
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>>15701269
>primer
>sand
>primer
>sand
>paint

>complaining about it

How does it feel to know that 99% of what you did can be done by somebody with spray cans and some effort?
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>>15701322
>DURR HURR U MUST B GUD @ THING 2 CRITISIZE THING!
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>>15701295
If you don't think high fashion is the highest quality of craftsmanship and materials you're a complete moron.
I bet you don't even have rep on sufu.
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>>15701244
You're dealing in something with very objective measures of quality. His cars can be the prettiest goddamn thing in the world but if they don't wind up also reliably functioning as a car because of his shoddy workmanship and set the fiberglass on fire because his welds holding the muffler broke (look it up) the whole thing fundamentally misses and outright disregards a rather integral part of a car being a car. But they're like fashion statements, you say, performance takes a back seat and even ultimately unimportant since these are like rolling works of art, yeah? I could get behind that, I loved Ed Roth's shit- But why do you think Nakai stuffs such fat tires under these things? The wide bodies, extreme aero and such? Because it was shit racers did. It's not some work of lead slinging mania like the Monkey Mobile, it's playing at the presence and appearance of things the customers are too lazy to deal with.
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>>15701326
How is that relevant to the topic at hand?
>>15701329
>even considering putting a 1K product on a car
R E T A R D
E
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A
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>>15701332
>I could get behind that, I loved Ed Roth's shit
Don't you DARE even BEGIN to compare Nip Foose to Big Daddy Roth. Roth's customs were quality work!
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>>15701295
If you consider kanye as high fashion you should reconsider your life choices.
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>>15701322
>hurr you need to do [x] in order to complain about it
Nice argument, fuckstick.
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>>15701330
Look how mad you are and calm down
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>>15701327
the cost doesnt mean it's complex.
it's easy. it just takes time.

there's a difference.

he doesn't paint the panels anyway so everything you are saying is fucking irrelevant. you seriously one of the worst posters.

he literally uses rattle cans. have you ever watched a video of his cars being built? obviously not. just shut the fuck up already.
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ITT pure autism
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>>15701269
>Who gives a flying fuck about some exhaust welds
People who like cars. Who gives a fuck about fit and finish when the job was done wrong from the start?
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>>15701348
>mocking reply to your furious butthurt post
>dur hur u mad
Do you even know what the little > and green words mean, little man?
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>>15701203
Paint and prep is an art and all that, but come on, it's not rocket science, man.
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>>15701344
Oh look another kid that's mad I called him out
Theres nothing worse than a poorfag benchmechanic criticizing a world class builder bevause you want to be contrarian and appeal to the rest of the bus riding keyboard warrior faggots on this board

Almost as pathetic as couch potatos criticizing the performance of Olympic athletes while stuffing your face with mcdonalds and waiting for your rascal to recharge
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>>15701355
>hurr durr why can't the entire car be a track ready monster masterpiece
>it's 22k it should be perfect in every aspect
how about 100k if you want a car that's actually nice and doesn't just look nice.

>>15701367
Is this supposed to look good?
Because it doesn't
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>>15701370
>world class builder
No actual builder uses woodscrews and welds like a high schoolers 2nd try.

He's a hack, and you're a moron.
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>>15701356
>typing in caps and kiddy text speak
>calling anyone else mad
Roflmao
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>>15701371
Look at what it started as and look what it turned into.
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>>15701367
not to mention even a shit paint job will look glassy from 10 feet. he's basing his entire opinion on a 300x400 picture 20 feet from the car. he's a joke poster.
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>>15701375
Denial is an important stage in acceptance
Keep hanging in there anon the pain will stop soon
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>>15701378
It started as trash and turned into a car that looks like a highschooler painted it with rattle cans
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>>15701371
Truly, you wound me ;~;
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>>15701370
>world class guy again

How are you always here to catch these threads? Do you actually believe what you're saying or do you just collect (you)s? Do you honestly believe good beads take hours to do like you have stated in previous threads?
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>>15701377
It's called mocking you and how retarded you are, sorry if even 4chan is too highbrow for you to understand
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>mfw mrcummy thinks sanding primer is an art
fucking lol
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>>15701389
Dunno what highschoolers you hang around, it all matches perfectly, it shines, it's smooth, looks good to me.
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>>15701393
>good beads take hours to do
People actually think this?
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>>15701395
No its called being mad
Keep damage controlling

>>15701393
>implying he's not a world class builder
Lol okay. His only business is oil changes for locals. People don't send their cars from the other side of the world to be worked on or anything
Stay in denial wannabe le supreme benchmechanic
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>>15701371
22k for a bodykit should be done well m8
>>15701405
This guy has stated he believes as such in the past.
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>>15701305
>who doesn't do anything properly
hmm, more opinions.
>>15701331
lmfao fuck sufu, that place is as bad as /fa/. but really, most of the price of high fashion items comes from exclusivity and the status of the brand. alexander wang makes t-shirts out of cotton and rayon in chinese factories and sells them for $80 each. RWB is no different.
>>15701332
I completely understand the fact that nakai's work does not enhance (and occasionally impedes) performance, but i think his customers understand that. they're meant to look like race cars, while actually just being accessories that are occasionally taken to the club.
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>>15701408
>people are gullible and that makes him world class
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>>15701403
>it shines and it's smooth so it's good
What products did you use?
What equipment did you use?
Looks like an extremely dull finish desu senpai which leads me to believe it's rattle can
Anything from a can is garbage, doesn't matter how much work you put into the prep, it's garbage.
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>>15701337
That's what I was trying to get at. Roth's stuff were pretty much out and out show pieces, the draw card people bring up when they want to sweep Nakai's whoopsies under the rug, but even when judged by that standard they come up short.
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>>15701403
he's in denial because he got owned this entire thread. dude thinks laying a guide coat makes him mozart. best to ignore.
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>>15701408
His flares fit fairly well and he's built a good brand, but world class would imply quality and craftsmanship. When your exhaust welds look like bird shit you cannot be called world class. You can have customers around the world, but to be called world class is akin to "the best" and that is objectively false.
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>>15701258
That was the point I was trying to make though, As long as he only touches the bodywork and visual components of the car and the rest of the car is built safely and professionally by someone else that knows what they are doing it would be fantastic.
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>>15700132
how do you weld upside down with your eyes closed and no gloves?
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>>15701415
I'm just some random anon passing through, no its not mirror finish but to deny that it's glossy is flat out wrong.
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>>15701371
I'd rather spend $22k on things that actually make the car better rather than shit welds and woodscrews. But hey, you do you.
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>>15701420
>No no he's not world class bevause of my arbitrary requirements!
>never mind he is famous world wide and featured in countless major auto media!
>people from all corners of the world wanting to be his customers doesn't mean anything!
He's world class
Deal with it
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>>15701413
Why are you so keen on defending this idiot?
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>>15701423
Poorly.
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>>15700061
Anon doesn't know how to make a cut before actually getting work done.
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>>15701426
Who the fuck cares if it's glossy?
I can get a can of rustoleum from walmart and paint my panel like this, this is the fender from my truck.
It's still shit because it's a rattle can, the paint will fade, the paint is not durable, the paint is trash.
Any prep you do on a car, then proceed to paint with a rattle can is literally a waste of time.
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>>15701415
>Anything from a can is garbage, doesn't matter how much work you put into the prep, it's garbage.
Well, that bodes poorly for Nakai's work.
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>>15701413
no one said anything about price. the price is irrelevant. a rolex is better than a seiko.
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>>15701429
Famous and world class are entirely different things.
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>>15701440
You just said it was a dull finish. I was pointing out that it looked like it had a healthy amount of clearcoat. I don't understand what you meant by dull finish if not that, or how you can tell if somethings from a can or not, because they put the same colors of paint in different containers.
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Anyone have any pictures of his welds?
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>>15701464
>>15700132
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how do i get my own garage? i want to work on my car. fuck my life.
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>>15701451
You can tell from the texture of the paint that it's a poor paint job, also look at the middle of the driver door, see how the reflections are bunched up and wavy?
Shit prep work, the panels aren't straight at all.
This is the shit that matters when you're doing a paint job if you want it to turn out nice, that car he posted did NOT turn out nice.
If you want a glass mirror finish with no waves and no imperfections, it's going to be a massive undertaking for you or your wallet.
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>>15701469
I meant pictures of the end result, but that pic makes me kek everytime
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So you guys know that at least one person here actually knows what they're talking about, here's a build in progress last week at the shop I used to work for. (I work as an automotive journalist/PR photographer now, and my current client happened to be working with my old shop.)

I don't want to namedrop and drag them into some /o/ shitshow but they're a highly regarded BMW and Porsche shop that specializes in fabrication and race prep.

>>15701327
Can I point out here that, as far as I've seen, Nakai/RWB themselves don't do their own paint? If you look at their "process" section on the RWB USA website, it specifies that the parts should be painted before Nakai even shows up.

I believe LTMW is the usual bodyshop of choice for RWB USA builds, by the way, and they've been the subject of some pretty huge quality debacles too.

Also, 22k is the cost of the basic kit. You have to at least double that for an actual build, not counting the car itself.
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>>15701473
You didn't answer my question about method of paint application. Admittedly I'm on my phone so maybe the picture is big enough to look at orange peel etc.
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>>15701475
You can see a couple of the welds toward the front of the car. They're splattered everywhere.
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>>15701473
Even the head light panel I just posted here has imperfections, notice the top right corner the image it's reflecting is distorted, it's not a perfectly flat surface, that's because I didn't do enough priming and blocking on this panel.
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Does anybody here remember when they did the YouTube live stream of him "building" (ruining) a Porsche, and the entire comment section was just /o/ shittalk?
Most fun I've had on this board in a while
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>>15701493
God damn I wish YT livestream comments were archived.
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>>15701430
not really about him, i just feel compelled to explain art to people who don't understand it
>>15701442
what? the price of his work has been brought up constantly in this thread, along with the arbitrary "for 22k he needs to be doing this this and this." anyway, the point that i was making was that people don't buy designer fashion because of the quality. to use your example, one could certainly buy a watch with the same build quality/materials as a rolex for a much lower price, and yet rolex is still a profitable company because of the status of the brand. it's really not so hard to understand
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>>15701493
Heh, those are always fun. I liked when we shitposted up the Monaco auctions a few months ago too.
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>>15701503
But Rolex isn't shit tier quality, what an awful comparison. A better example would be like shelling out 5k for an invicta.
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>>15701524
you could not be missing the point harder, my friend - plus it wasn't even my comparison. the point was that yes, you can get designer items that are high quality; however, you can get non-designer items that are just as quality for less money, so it is obvious that the brand name adds value to the product.
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>>15701480
>meanwhile, in a shop without welding helmets
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>>15701547
But what do you do if all you have is brand name and shit quality?
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>>15701503
We're complaining about how awful he is at fabricating this shit, not how it looks you dumbass. They look nice but the craftsmanship is garbage
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>>15701485
Holy shit what is this guy doing
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>>15701503
For $22k, I expect better than a Casio.
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>>15701415
It's been a hot minute but if memory serves that was primed with a Marhyde primer, and a single stage acrylic enamel of a Chrysler red, Iron Man dual stage compressor and a harbor freight special gun.
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>>15701559
find a demographic that doesn't care much about the build quality, it's actually pretty easy.
>>15701560
it's funny how the anons who respond to me with insults usually lack the reading comprehension to understand the point i'm trying to make. if reading the whole thread seems like too much work to you, maybe don't post.
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>>15701386
> people keep posting problems with this guy's work

> UR DUM
> UR MAD
> UR POOR
> HE GOOD
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>>15701558
Holy shit, those welds. Who the hell built that cage?

>>15701560
Yeah, I think this is what people aren't getting. The RWB guy is constantly marketed as this genius master craftsman, when he actually has the skills of an average tech at a Mexican ricer shop in East LA.

I think the cars look cool and I like the whole idea of this one guy custom-tailoring cars to clients and adding artistic touches at his own discretion, but you need quality to go with that, and those personalized cars are barely part of his process nowadays anyway. He just shows up and installs a mass-produced bodykit on a pre-prepped car now, and that misses the whole point of what made them cool in the first place.
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>>15701569
The primer looks decent but singe stage acrylic?
Anything singe stage should be a polyurethane.
Also, your prepwork is pretty terrible, the entire front half of your driver door is smashed in, you would have noticed this if you were blocking the panels and using guide coat, maybe you were and just didn't care?
I can see you put some bondo on behind the mirror there, truth is that ENTIRE door needed a skin coat of bondo and a few hours of blocking to get straight again.
A good technique to see if your panel is straight is to put it on a stand and spray it down with water or prep-sol, do this in a bright room, I like the garage because it has fluorescent tubes which are long and straight and they will tell you right off the bat if your panel is dead straight or not.
You spray it with water and look at the light tubes in the reflection.
If it doesn't look perfect right then and there, it's not gonna look perfect after you paint and clear it.
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>>15701611
I'm still not sure how you can defend this >>15700132
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> world class metal-working
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>every fucking RWB thread ever

"STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE"
"HIS WELDS ARE SHIT, EVERYTHING IS SHIT"
"HE'S DESTROYING CARS I COULD NEVER AFFORD THAT DON'T AFFECT ME IN ANY WAY WHAT SO EVER"

Fucking cringe material 101 ITT, jesus fuck.
Let the guy weld like shit if he wants
Let people buy his shit welds if they want, it's not like you're doing the world a service by pointing out those particular welds are shit. It's pretty obvious.
When you build a GT2 replica you're free to hire someone who you think welds properly.
Stop shitting on the way other people modify their cars, we know you don't like it. We realized that in 2011 when these posts started.

Fuck.
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>>15701645
i'm not defending anything - it's just funny that everybody is acting like it's a secret that this is what he does, like it's some scandal and he's tricking his customers. if they wanted master craftsmanship, they'd pay somebody else, but they clearly want his services. hell, i'd never let him touch my car, but it's a little naive to think that the users of a malaysian basket weaving imageboard are the only ones who can tell a decent weld from a sloppy one. face it - his customers know what he does and they don't care.
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>>15701675
air-cooled porsches are a limited resource
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>>15701707
>porsche
>a resource
You should really look into getting your autism under control.
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>>15701558
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>>15701440
>>Harbor Freight paint guns

I sure hope those are primer guns.
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>>15701733
The neighbor gave that to me fur free, I drilled the tips out to 2.5mm and use them fur polyester primer.
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>>15701675
>every fucking RWB thread ever

"hey look at this guys shitty work, pretty funny people actually pay for it"
"YOU'RE MAD JELLY HE'S A MULTIMILLIONAIRE ARTIST YOU CAN NEVER BE AS GOOD AS MY HERO"

He does shit work, maybe makes enough to get by, but more likely is in debt, nobody knows about his cars outside of internet communities, and nobody is jealous of the guy aside from his own dickriders
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>>15701629
>>15701725
>filename also says rwb

Jej
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>>15701722
> i don't understand economics

you might want to look into an education
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>tfw took one semester of welding survey and can already mig weld better than a "world class" fabricator
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>>15701737
I was hoping you'd say that furfriend. What's your bc/cc gun(s)?
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>>15701743
how's your shitbox going?
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>>15701086
>35k annual income
>2001 accord
You now realize that car is fifteen years old and nobody pulling even $35k is stuck in what is now a highschooler's first car
Tldr you're closer to death than you think
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>>15701797
I think it's blue now. Heartbreaker is an ass but that car is coming along.
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>>15701763

>tfw never took a class or any instruction in my life and can already mig weld better than a "world class" fabricator
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>>15701745
The question was who built the cage, I knew it was an RWB car.

It appears to have been built by FFTEC, the engine builder. What a piece of shit, it wouldn't even pass tech for most club racing series, so why even bother installing it?

(Anybody who knows cages will understand exactly why it wouldn't pass, by the way.)
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>>15701793
I'm using one of those ebay nickel plated ones that's all the rage right now, it's actually pretty decent desu.
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>>15701707
Everything is a "limited resource", you're extremely unlikely to be affected by this jap putting a hacksaw in a handful of them anyway. I'd bet more retarded "porsche fans" who had to have "the last pure, air-cooled posche" crash their cars every year than what RWB can cut up in the same amount of time.

>>15701743
>nobody nows about his cars
You mean apart from the huge group that go racing the cars he has cosmetically upgraded?

US and EU have virtually no RWB cars because it's expensive as fuck to 1) pay for the kit and 2) fly the fucking guy out here so he can cut up your car and glue some shit on.

AFAIK there are like three trust fund kiddos in the US who have one and one or two in the EU. The rest are japanese.


I genuinely don't understand the issue here, it's like crying that people are converting Supras to single turbo or shoehorning LS1's into old Miatas. Porsche built like 70000 of the damn things. What the fuck is the problem?
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>>15701856
true, but porsches are meant to be driven and occasionally crashed
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>>15701866
Can't argue with that. Pretty sure the RWB-guys crash theirs a lot.
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> you're not affected so you can't criticize
> you can't afford so you can't criticize
> you can't do it yourself so you can't criticize

all logical fallacies

you're not affected by this fucking thread but apparently you morons are still posting in it
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>>15700918
it was for a gopro commercial they probably just told him to that because it looked cool.
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>>15701856
There are quite a few more than 3 in the US. I can't find exact numbers but I know of at least seven. (They'd already built #5 in 2012 and I know there have been at least two public build things in the last couple of years.)

I'd guess the number is more like 15 or 20, but most of them are probably locked away in the private collections of rich guys and haven't gotten any press.

Also, as I understand it, you can order the kit and have your own shop install it, so you have to decide whether to call those cars "RWB cars" or not.
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>>15701829
I'm gonna take a guess. Too many bends?
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>>15701949
>>15701829
idk much about club racing rules, but the door bars ain't got no triangles in them
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>>15701949
Yeah, that's one of the things. That dogleg in the front bar isn't kosher.

Also, it seems to be mounted to the door sill, which is almost never allowable (though maybe air-cooled 911s are special in that regard), and there's no dash bar, which is required for many series.

Triangles aren't mandatory for most road race series, that's more of a rally/hillclimb thing, at least with NASA/SCCA rules, but the door bars are effectively a single bar and not the double bar that most series require, too.

Oh, another thing I just realized, and which is DEFINITELY not allowable, is that the front legs are welded to a roof halo, which I'm pretty sure is never acceptable. (The front bars are supposed to be a single continuous piece from the main hoop behind the seats to the floor.

One last thing is that the tubing may be under-spec as well, but I'd have to know what the car weighs so be sure of that, and it's hard to tell the diameter from a photo. (And can't check wall thickness at all, but the deformation at the bend looks like what happens in thin tubing.)

heh, I bet it's cromoly though, because of course it would be.
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>>15701949
It has no front hoop. But yeah, bends, shit welds, looks like 1.25" tube, etc, etc.
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>>15701978
Oh, and since I bet somebody will ask - there's nothing actually wrong with cromoly.

Actually, it's superior to the normal DOM steel used in cages, and can give you the same strength with thinner and therefore lighter tubing. The reason it's stupid, though, is that US racing rules don't actually allow you to USE thinner tubing, because they have no way of spot checking whether a cage is DOM or moly, and so you end up with just as heavy of a cage but it costs three times as much, thanks to the more expensive material and difficult welding.
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>>15701634
Oh I've picked up a fair amount of this, that firebird was just a culmination of a few shitty things, since I was doing it as a favor for my brother. I really need to sit down and figure out paint comp, but a fair amount of the prep work was done by an angry me pissed off that I was having to fix where my brother punched the fucking car and I was still figuring out guide coats and there was a weird compound curve in that spot on the door. So yeah, I got halfass lazy with the thing. Jambs and everything were cut in on the car and it was done in the meager lighting of a friend's pole barn. The GTO I posted was halfass a culmination of the learning experience of the firebird and a few other heaps.
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>>15701634
> attention to detail
> disgusting fucking welds
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you're a fucking retard
fix yourself
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wow some paintfag really got you retards riled up. this is the content I like to see

recently saw this car in person. some 17 year old chinaman with an N owned it. had a good laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPQW0CoIo10
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