MUH DIKKKK http://www.motoring.com.au/mazda-rx -9-locked-in-103563/

What did he mean by this?

With all these name plate revivals I almost feel like we're in another motoring golden age.

Then I saw the rumored price tag (100k) and realised we aren't

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They fucking did it.

Looks like the RX-7 from behind.

>diesel-style HCCI compression ignition
Dem dorito seals be like "no."

>and for the first time will incorporate turbocharging

Mate what?

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THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>400hp
>Under 1300 kg

This ought to be a quick vehicle.

>>15685073
Those 100k aren't even USD

BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP BA-RAP BA-RAP BA-RAP BA-RAP BA-RAP BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP

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>>15685031
>that front end

That's fucking awful.

>>15685127
Blame USA and EU safety regulations.

>>15685127
Atleast its better than lexus. It's clean, just pedestrian safety requires flat fronts, and softly sloped hoods,

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>>15685031
Goddamn that's ugly as FUCK

>>15685133
>blaming everything you don't like on safety and regulation

It's just an ugly car.

>>15685133
BULLSHIT

YES YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Where were you when Mazda saved the automobile???

>>15685031
Believe it when I see it.

You cannot make a rotary engine meet current let alone future emissions and mpg requirements.

The technology will not allow it, unless it's superfucked with a 12speed dct tranny and hybrid assist. Then you might see 30mpg on the highway. Maybe.

>>15685073
>we're in another motoring golden age.
i literally jej'd irl

All they're doing is taking names from cars that were good ad throwing them on cookie-cutter soap bars.

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Fake

Pls be real

If it's real, it's what I'm going to save up for in 8 years

>>15685031
MAZDA THEMSELVES HAVE SAID THEY'RE NOT WORKING ON A NEW RX RIGHT NOW. STOP FAPPING OVER RENDERS

>>15685031
>Fitted with a leather-lined interior and all of Mazda’s latest safety and convenience technologies

fucking dropped.

>>15685179
With a car that probably costs 200 USD and is still slower than a mustang GT500?

>>15685165
>Being this dumb

Having such high front ends on normal production cars is a direct result of pedestrian safety regs and the required higher beltlines for side collisions

>>Reddit

>>15685179
In my 2013 V8 BMW

>>15685073
That's in dollarydoos. So more like 75K USD. Probably even less because we have a LCT fucking us over to the tune of 33%, which this could easily fall under as an imported sports car.

Americans might be able to buy this brand new for 55K.

>>15685487
This

>adding weight in a manual sports car

>>15685498
That's absolutely no excuse. Corvettes/911s get low as fuck at the front end and yet they pass all the regulations handily. Stop trying to fit in by talking about shit you don't know anything about.

well thats an ugly sum bitch

good thing its only a render

>i-it will never happen!!!

americucks on sucide watch!

>>15685084
>1 LITER DIESEL PUNTO

lmao

>>15685546
>implying amerifats don't want this too

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If they're smart they'll release a few sports trims with wankels and then a long distance tourer trim or two set up for comfort with extra amenities and the Ford V6 out of the Mazda6 and CX-9.

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>>15685031
>80k usd for rx-9
>2020
>I save around 24k a year assuming i keep my job
>Will have saved 96k by the time it comes out
>been driving bone stock miat for close to 7 years now and would rather eat a shoe than continue dailying it.

god damnit /o/ wat do

>>15685582
What do you think the R in RX stands for?

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>>15685615

retard

>>15685613
just buy something used that doesnt lose a brazilion doll hairs till 2020 you fucking weeb

>>15685093
>and for the first time will incorporate turbocharging with diesel-style HCCI compression ignition.

>I bought a new car in 2016 on a 6 year finance plan

Oops

Whatever, I'll pick up a late year model in 2024/25 or something. Will prolly be making 70k a year by then

>>15685613
The 16K change could probably buy you a ncie FD or S2k, both of which would appreciate untill you sold them in 2020.

>>15685615
Racism. And as we all know, racism is power. And the RX is the ultimate most racist car.

>>15685643
/pol/ can't even afford RX-7's lel

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>>15685158
>Atleast its better than lexus.
Jesus anon, what isn't? I swear Toyota's design department was drunk when they thought this was a good for a luxury vehicle.

>>15685546
>you will never be this autistic

>>15685531
>>15685487

it's still gonna be only 2800lbs or so
not that bad if you ask me

>>15685498
>>15685538
does the front-end really look that high to you?
the perspective makes it look high, but it's hardly any higher than the front-wheels.

i think it looks kind of like the sls amg / amg gt with that taken into account

>>15685712
It really isn't that high. It clearly slopes down too.

>>15685181
All cars don't have to meet regs. Fleet average is the measurement.

>>15685582
>tourer
>v6

That's more retarded than dd a rotary.

>>15685733
Why don't manufacturers flood their fleet with geo metros and then make whatever cars they want

>>15685769
look up the aston martin cygnus - now you know why it existed.

>>15685769
Because fleet average is deteminder by amount of cars SOLD.

Without fraud. Looking at you, FCA.

>>15685081
The lights do, but that fucking triangle light in the center mimics the Toyobaru too much imo, and looks unneccessary.

>>15685769
The hhr and pt cruiser were made to up the truck fleet average for gm and chrysler, by govt definition anything with a flat cargo floor is a truck. So wagons and minivans. Interestingly enough this is also why minivans had terrible rollover ratings back in the day, because the roof crush standards were lower for trucks and thus lower for minivans.

>>15685181
>mpg
>requirements

are you shitting me? these are real?

>>15685820
Yes. Iirc, CAFE Or something demands the US car fleet average to be 50-something MPG by 2024 or something. Look it up.

>>15685831
gee I can't wait for every sports car to be a turbo V4 with toggleable hybrid assist

>>15685842
>V4
I4.
>toggleable
As if. Either mandatory all-the-time hybrid, or full electric.

>>15685613
If you like a gay car maybe you would want to check the counterpart s2000. It would also go up in price, meaning you could get more back asuming the meme is real

>>15685734
Maybe they created the new engine standard. Maybe it is so fucking powerful yet uses next to no fuel while being supreme reliable.
You all would apologize.

>>15685031
It's only $10k more than the FD was when it released in 1994 (adjusted for inflation), which makes sense considering how much they had to put into the development of a car like this and the modern market they're trying to compete with.

looks like a thicc MB SL mixed with their CX and miatas front end

>>15685846
It doesn't have to be mandatory as long as it somehow gets that mileage. I'd actually expect it on a hobby/sport-oriented model if the hybrid assist was there solely to reduce fuel consumption while cruising and could not and did not improve overall performance.

People can voluntarily drive their cars in a fuel inefficient fashion

>guys 40mpg! so modern!
>paddle shifters
>never drop below 4k
>upshift at redline
>20mpg

Mazda thank you best

>>15685733
Yes, but you can't cheat on mpg or emissions anymore since so many people got cockslapped.

A Mazda Rx8 gets around 13mpg in town. I owned two. You are going to have to have everything else in your lineup punching out north of 40 to balance that.

And thats not even taking into account the fact that they are fucking pig dirty, require cats that invariably plug up due to oil burning and THEN cause seals to fail due to pressure buildup.

Yeah. I'm really expecting this to be a giant nothingburger, but it gets people talking about Mazda again....

>>15685158
>>15685660
They look pretty good IRL though

>>15685733
That's only for CAFE dummy. For everything else (e.g. safety, emissions, etc.), each car has to meet federal standards.

>>15685489
>still slower than a mustang GT500

Really now? I doubt it will be quicker than the base 5.0 GT, this is Mazda we are talking about, but weeabos will find a way to defend it.

>>15685953
>weighs 1000lbs less
>has 400hp
Im sure itll be fine

>>15685965
>I'm sure it will be fine
>Mazda

Pick one.

>>15685031
I wonder if it's a hybrid

>>15685971
When had mazda not been great?

>>15685973
Since the Miata became a car for """""men""""" to drive. Seriously

>driving a Miata
>not being a vagina
Pick one senpai

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>>15685660
>those headlights
Every damn time

>>15685980
Oh i see. Youre just insecure.
But really the mx5 is a great car.
>most raced car on any given day.

>>15685989
>he drives a secretary car
>thinks he is a man
Lel

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>>15685031

>>15686006
>doesn't drive a car at all
>thinks his opinion matters to people on an anonymous slap stick comedy alaskan fishing forum

>>15686006
I sold mine a while back.
But i have self confidence and am not insecure. So it wasnt an issue for me.

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>>15686011
it could have been so good

Thank God that's a render, that front design needs to be fixed.

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>>15685643
Can confirm, every Mazda comes with a copy of Mein Kampf and a Mauser C96.

>>15686011
That looks fucking terrible
>>15686006
>obsessing about masculinity
>being a man
You have a lot to learn; being an insecure bitchboy who just parrots facebook memes is not being a man

I love it desu

>>15685031
Plz go for a honeycomb grille with no edgy race inspired cosmetic enhancements on the side

The lip is nice tho

>>15685127
it's a render

it ain't real

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Mazda is going full performance mode in 2020/2021
They've apparently been working on "cheap carbon fiber" which they want to implement into their next generation of vehicles. Mazdaspeed's coming back in 2021. Now rx-9 set to release in 2020
Hail your automotive gods

Also that render looks like ass and I doubt it'll look like that. Remember when they said the ND would look like this since as if it'd share the same design language as their econoshitboxes? Yea nah, if anything it'll probably share the same design language as the ND.

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>>15686183
That's why I'm excited as hell for the new RX-9. I saw the new Miata in person and it's absolutely fucking perfect. If the RX-9 is just an ND with more E-type like proportions I'm gonna have to seriously start saving up to get one of these on the used market.

>>15686141
Well Felix Wankel was a known NSDAP supporter.

looks like a really ugly rape baby from a Corvette and AMG GT.

>>15686183
This look far more better than >>15686248 horrible angry teen car

>>15686259
it looks more like an angry puppy

>>15686259
It has aggressive headlights but thats as far as it goes really. Look at that fucking grin, it's not angry its smug as fuck

>>15686259
Fuck you, dude. The new Miata is perfect. See it in person, it's a mischievous and coquettish grin, not anger.

>>15685122
It costs only about 70000 freedom bux,

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>>15686258

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>>15686275
Honestly the way the hood bulged immediately from the front with the wide positioned headlights reminds me more of the new Mustang than anything.

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>>15686275
>>15686258
> X looks like Y

>>15686275
kek you're right

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>>15685031
Unfortunately, the renders aren't from Mazda themselves.

The japanese source site (http://lrnc.cc/_ct/16987892) just states that the board of directors have formally approved the SKYACTIVE-R in a sports car.

Everything else is just regurgitated information/rumors based off what Mazda has already publicly announced.

>>15686275
>the mazda logo is literally a mix of the Merc and Chevy logo
mind = blown

>>15686275
>cars of similar type share design elements

stop the fucking presses

thank you based Mazda

now bring back the Mazdaspeed line you fucks

>>15686355
>the board of directors have formally approved the SKYACTIVE-R in a sports car

that's the only important part, really

>>15686362
the GT looks very different from the Z07 though. the mazda looks like you put the GT and Z07 in MorphThing.

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>>15685789
>http://www.motoring.com.au/mazda-rx-9-locked-in-103563/
The RX-8 had that, too. It symbolises the dorito.

>>15686390
The polished dorito was an option on the RX-8, but I'm fairly certain the lights in that picture are aftermarket.

>>15685831
My 13mpg v8 laughs at that demand

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>>15685831
Well mazda is doing a very good job with skyactiv so it should be fine.


And the rendering is def based on a frs/brz/gt86

Which im fine with, the chassis is perfect for it, the rotary would allow more room in the front for proper front suspension.

Mazda and Toyota should use their partnership for this.

>>15685081
Hnggggggggg. It's not perfect, but it's as good as we're gonna get...

>>15686528
Man, the GT86 looks ugly as fuck in comparison.

>>15685031
I don't think that's the official design

just a third-party rendering

>>15686528
>And the rendering is def based on a frs/brz/gt86

Except for both having the general shape of a coupe, those pictures are pretty dissimilar.

Will RX-7 prices go down when this comes out? How does classic car pricing work? RX-7 looks much better I would rather have an RX-7 for 20k and work on it than a 100k RX-9.

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>>15685031
I hope they offer an NA version so that I can afford one, like the FC had. This car existing might actually get to me buy a brand new car, but I can't if they make it too expensive like the FD was, being only offered with a turbo engine with a hefty price tag of $33,600 ($55600 today).

>>15685846
>I4
Saab would like a word with you

>>15685789
It's a rear fog light. Required in the Japan and European markets.

>>15686658
>Saab
Please note that Saab is bankrupt, Lancia is dead, and Ford ditched the V4.

>>15686647
>Will RX-7 prices go down when this comes out?
No, it'll be bloated and computerised. FD prices will go up.

>>15686647
The RX-7's, especially the JDM ones, will most likely continue to rise in price in the long run, but I agree, 2020 is too far away for me to get really excited. This render doesn't do much for me either. I'd much rather have a godly FD.

>>15686670
>>15686673
Dammit I want an RX-7. I feel like I lost my chance at a well priced RX-7. How much would one be late 2000s?

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>>15686647
If anything it'll make them go up even more, since more people are going to be interested in buying a dorito but will either be unable to afford the new one or don't like it for whatever reason.

Sucks for me since nothing gets my dick diamonds like an unmolested white Turbo II FC, and they're already getting out of my price range.

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>>15686670
Aprilia still makes a V4.

>>15686698
Bout $20k for a good one. Below that you're getting into cars that have been modded

>>15686732
>Aprilia
>4 stroke
Into the trash it goes.

>>15686709
Fuck anon, me too. I drive a N/A 91 coupe right now but I've wanted a white turbo II since I started watching Initial D

>>15685031
I dont have a special thing for mazda or rotaries. Im more of a muscle car guy, but damn that's a sexy car.

>>15686528
>And the rendering is def based on a frs/brz/gt86
looks a little more bmw z4 to me.

>>15686698
Part of me wants to buy one from an importer in Japan and just keep it over there until it hits the point where I can actually take it to the US. That way I'd get in before the inevitable price bubble. But shit, that's a lot of money to drop on a future investment.

>>15685127
There is literally nothing wrong with that front end.
>>15685133
It's simply Mazda's current corporate identity. Nothing to blame.

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>>15685031
>>15685081

It looks amazing from all sides.

>>15685031
Fuck /o/'s vitriol, that thing looks great

>>15686528
The toyota doesn't have 300hp.

>>15685181
The carbureted SA/FB got 30 MPGs highway due to its low weight. With laser ignition and clever fuel mapping/port fuckery, I bet it could be possible.

>>15685122
>The price will be less than 8 million yen
>1 million yen ~=~ 10000 usd

It will be priced around no more than 79k, thats what they're saying. It might be 40k, who knows?

>>15685940
Its the paint they use, I swear! Lexus uses premium paint on all their vehicles, and little known fact: the paint auto-heals from minor scratches and nicks.

>>15685487
>>15685531
>not fitting modern conveniences and a nice interior because a handful of spergs on an internet site who drive cars from the 80s don't want to move forward

Stop being retarded, or stick to your shitboxes. Your choice.

>>15685181
>Im an engineer working for mazda on their rotary tech
>Lol jks I'm just a clueless retard on 4chan with nothing to back up my conjecture
Lol

>>15685081
Rear looks fine, front looks like absolute shit.

>>15688047
*tips fedora*

>>15686835
except the kodo bullshit. Only mums likes its design

>>15688066
nice shit taste drone

>>15685031
Why do they keep pushing their fucking ugly grill? Literally cancer

>>15688176
because you cant read the thread

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>>15688176
>he thinks a third party speculative rendering is the real thing

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its missing something...

>>15688217
I sure hope they just leave it on their shitboxes

will they actually release this or are they pulling our dicks like fucking Toyota is with their supposed soon to come Supra?

why is Nissan the only one that had balls to bring back a japanese icon like 10 years ago? fucking hell. NISSAN

>>15688233
Fuck off Leisure, everyone hates ur gay looking wing

>>15686976
neither does this

>>15688299
>hating the mazdaspeed wing on the rex7
fuck right off

>>15688299
that's an oem wing you idiot

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>>15688299

>>15688233
Where's the Red Suns sticker?

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BASED MAZDA

>>15686528

mazda will probably just used a stretched version of the ND chassis

>>15686011
This. Heck I will be just as happy if they re-use the old FD shell and put new guts in. Way better than following the 'futuristic' GT86 style trend

If this rotary doesn't suck, can we call it the 16C?

>>15685487
If they didn't put all that shit in you faggots would still bitch, just like the toyobaru

>REEEEEE the interior is so fucking plastic and chintzy, this car should cost $10k MAX

>>15688572
No.

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>>15685031
>front
Looks like a menacing grin. I like it.

>>15688535
Except it won't pass safety standards, because muh pedestrians

>>15688233
>fuel consumption is so bad you need you own personal tanker

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>Mfw rotary is RESURRECTED

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Holy shit this thing looks ok

>>15685081
>>15685031

looks like a 2015 mustang. if this car is over 40k its a fail. what a disgrace to the rx-7

>>15685489
>costs 200 USD

HOW DO THEY DO IT BROS???

Hopes and dreams:
>car infotainment will tell you how to take care of the engine, since normies can't do research and will just give the car bad press when it grenades on them
>no driving modes, just a traction control button you can turn partially off/full off
>~360HP or so with decent cooling
>under 2900lbs
>10000RPM redline
>hardcore trim that has all performance options with minimal luxury options in the middle of the price range
>same price bracket as the Camaro SS, BMW M2, Porsche Caymen, Audi TT

>>15689725
Oh and

>no compromises to driving fun and feel for the sake of shaving a few tenth-seconds off lap times

>rotary confirmed
>viper is ded

kek, wonder where that viper shitposter that used to post on /an/ is now

>>15689725
>10000RPM redline
I can guarantee you this won't happen.

http://www.rx7.voodoobox.net/infofaq/rx7specs.html

>>15689776
>RX-7 FB/FC
>7000 RPM
>RX-7 FD
>8000 RPM
>RX-8
>9000 RPM

10000RPM would be a logical progression, no?

>>15689747
Mazda has never compromised this

>>15689788
No, because it's a turbo engine like the FC and FD and unlike the SE, and it's got a significantly longer stroke. Higher eccentricity means a lower rev limit to keep inertia in check.

>>15685972

Honestly, I hope so so long as it has a manual transmission. Rotaries are best-suited to hybrids.

I know it won't have em, but I really really want it to have pop up headlights
A man can dream I guess

The front of every concept I've seen so far looks ugly though. Hope they don't go through with it, but that's my opinion

>>15689725

Article says the supposed power output around 300kW. That's kilowatts, not horse power. This amounts to just about 400HP

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>>15685081
It has the same profile as a mustang. They need to make it flow more and take out the edginess by the door and rear quarter.

I doubt this is the production design, no way they would just slap the kodo design front end on. Everyone thought that was what they would do with the miata.

>>15685972
>>15689866
They've already said it won't have electric motors. Closest it might come to being a hybrid is i-ELOOP.

>>15688535
You make this world a worse place to live.

>99,000 us dollars.
Doesnt even come with any games.

>>15690357
Every great thing comes with a bad. We can all agree the cars we see today sucks.

>>15689788
Fb was 8000rp.

>>15685081
looks like it has a mean unibrow

>>15690492
Fuel cut may have been 8000, but redline was 7000.

>>15686732
So does Honda.

VFR800, 1200 etc

>>15690366
No,estimated (!) price is about 100K AUS dollarydoos.

>>15689788
The NA S5 FC had an 8k redline and cutoff wasn't until 8400 or so

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>>15689862
>longer stroke
>Dorito Engine

kys

>>15690972
Not him, but I gather you have no idea what "higher eccentricity" means. I gather you're new to this whole dorito thing.

>>15686739
Go fuck yourself. V4 Aprilias are the stuff of gods. Even the old Rotax twins are the bees knees.

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Now, we just wait for Mitsubishi to revive the Starion.

>>15690979
RX-7s have the same E-Shafts

>>15690994
fuck no my friend has gone through 6 motors in as many years. they look cool but were pieces of shit.

>>15688047
incorrect

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>>15691006
That probably is the reason why they didn't produce more than 1 gen.
I believe the Starion could be their own halo car. With updated look and engine, they could have their own RWD god machine.
Mitsubishi does work like this: They make something that absolutely rapes their competition. They fall into decadence and become a bit better than average. Then they make something that rapes the competition again. Rinse repeat.
Pic very related.

Hopefully Ill have money to blow in 2020. Cheers.

>>15685031
Is mazda letting ford design for them now.

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>>15688771
kek, here's hoping the new dorito will be at least a little better than a Renesis when it comes to fuel consumption.

>>15691062
>mitsubishi
>a bit better than average
the average where? russia?

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>>15693555
16X looks pretty neat judging by the patents

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