>not driving a diesel

diesels are slow and pigfat compared to any petrol counterpart.

was becoming a laughing stock on the automotive section of a vietnamese child dating website part of your plan?

>>15662195
>>15662196
t. cucks who don't like torks

>>15662186
Diesel is love
Diesel is life

Diesel will run on cooking oil when the government bans fossil fuels for public use.

its like you want to be a smelly faggot with a horrible sounding vehicle

http://www.benwd.xyz/spread/goto.php?u=50331626

>>15662376
hacktulee, multi shot injection reduces combustion noise so much you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

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>passsing by a TDI Jetta
>sounds like a fuckin tractor

>>15662376
>horrible sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi2CTlulWb8
Great maymay, friend.

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>>15662186
>not using the superior petrol of maintenance and cheapness and happy revs

>>15662397
No, no you absolutely fucking can. Trust me if you lived in yurop you'd know diesel is litteral cancer.

>>15662418
I'm a bonger.
I'm totally biased though because I'm a diesel engine calibration engineer.

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>>15662415

sounds like a tractor lmao

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>>15662220
I'm sure your 150fl-bs really pull

>>15662437
shame you can't calibrate your hearing aid though

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>>15662186
>not driving a two stroke

>>15662451
No, but I can calibrate our sound meter.
And I'll believe that over your anecdotal evidence errytim

>>15662459
Microcars are expensive

Why even live

>>15662441
I bet you think VTECs sound awesome, lmao.

>>15662447
On a car that weighs barely more than 1100kg, you bet it pulls decently.

>>15662415
is that really supposed to sound good

its like an even worse sounding Subaru

>>15662459
this guy knows whats up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2jEgSU4h8c

>>15662220
Torque only matters after multiplying by rpm.

>>15662488
>worse sounding Subaru
Multijets do sound a bit like boxers when higher on the power band.
But saying it sounds bad, is stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZr5ZD-u8zg

>>15662500
>But saying it sounds bad, is stupid.

saying it sounds good means you have horrible taste

>>15662506
Saying all diesels sound bad is equally stupid.
This isn't the 80s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lli654B7eE

>>15662186
Fuck you

>trolling because /o/ makes fun of his shitty car

you show em

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>diesel fiat

>>15662511
I could literally fall asleep it sounds so boring

Detroit Diesels are the only decent soundings ones

>>15662488
Sounds like a lawnmower mixed with a rotary

>>15662186
>Driving a diesel bigger than 1300cc

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>>15662186
>he drives a diesel fiat

>>15662474
>"I...it's fine I have a small car!"

>>15662474
>you bet it pulls decently
That's what your dad said when he jumped into your bathtub

>>15662497
Tell that to a tractor owner and watch him plow straight through your house with his 20 billion liter naturally aspirated diesel whateverthefuck engine

I DD a TDI Beetle. It's a 2003 GLS 5 speed. I think they make excellent daily drivers but the quality of the interior plastics is awful. That's my main bitch.

The 1.9 is pretty torquey and gets up to speed with great ease. I would have loved to look at other options but there was nary a diesel Saab or Volvo to be found. Wasn't interested in a diesel BMW.

I feel so sorry for mjet :(

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>>15662186
>fwd diesel fiat

>>15662644
BMW makes great diesel engines tho.

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>>15662186
>>15662220
>>15662670
>diesel fiat

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>>15662186
>5000lbs
>AWD
>Super luxobarge sedan
>As much torque as a Corvette
>40+ MPG
>24 gallon tank
>930 mile range
>diesel is cheaper than regular (at least in Canada), $60 to fill a tank

Why aren't you driving a diesel S Class?

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>>15662186
>diesel fiat

>>15663837
>petrol fiat

>>15663824
>not sold in burgerland
>starts at 100k USD
>Mercadies reliability/ costly repairs
>5000lbs

>>15664136
Mercedes diesels literally go forever, lol.

>>15664136
>Sold in America in 2012/2013
>can find them for less than half the original cost with the factory warranty
>literally uses the engine from a Sprinter van

>>15662186
The only good diesels are in trucks, i.e. DD two-strokes (8V92 etc), Cat 3408, Mac E9 V8. Scania V8's etc.

Consumer diesels are garbage.

i drive a diesel

but i dont daily it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2QGbTFFfi8

>>15662360
and I will run on ethanol

>>15662640
literally math illiterate

>>15662186
>13.6 second 0-60
why are you even allowed on this board?

I appreciate good simple bait, but for real
my dd is an 86 diesel golf
car looks like its been neglected for 30 years
still gets 40 + mpg
got it for 600 and have put maybe 300 more into it... 2 years now
easy to work on.
I love the lack of spark... simplify.
Acceleration? no... if thats your thing, drive gas
the sound? are you guys serious with this bullshit? yup, loud. I love it because I'm a diesel guy and love these cars and when I hear it, I have positive associations firing in my brain.
If I was a gas guy and worked on a particular gas engine, I would love the sound of that engine

objective advantages of diesel
long life
no spark needed
more energy per gallon in diesel fuel

>>15664617
If he has a fuckton of torque at 100RPM, making the same power as another engine with less torque at 6000 RPM, the low RPM high torque engine could much more easily take heavy loads, unlike your mother, due to the abundance of low end torque

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>>15664136
What are you talking about Mercedes diesels are fucking indestructible. Some of them have several million miles on them and still run like new.

>>15665726
How much do you think this yuro is gonna tow in his fucking 1.3 liter fiat lol. At the end of the day it only makes 140 ft lbs.

>>15664153
>>15665730
Not the new ones. Electronic gremlins will make your life hell before the thing even has a chance to start rusting to death.

>>15666405
The "hurr I need a full size truck to tow an ATV or jetski around" is mentally damaged. Semi trucks have as much as 0.025 lbft of torque per lb of weight, and those are the big engines.

With a 140 lbft engine you could power a 5600 lbs combination and get to the same torque to weight ratio as a 600 hp semi.

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ISUZU

>>15666445
>discounting the transmission and chassis

No, it couldn't tow 5600lbs.

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>>15662415
Holy kek. Is this you?

>>15666845

I think his Punto is graphite, not electric blue

>>15666405
Leave it to the brain dead Americans who drive automatic to not understand gearing.

>>15662186
you are easily one of the worst and most annoying trips

shoutout to suicide because it's what you should do

>>15662220
Torque for a really small powerband feels fast to those who are too poor at driving to choose the correct gear to go fastest in, and for road driving, where you rarely have max acceleration for long periods. Drive a diesel at high revs on a track and you'll realise they don't have outright pace compared to an equivalent petrol engine.

>>15662474
>pulls decently
>laughing at the choices of others when your own choice is only decent

Okay m8

>>15662220

Aren't you that eurocuck with the 70HP FF shitbox?

>>15666861
So japs are brain dead because they buy more autos than Americans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdHqb-j5kdg

>there are people in this thread who think there is anything wrong with tractor sounds

>>15667122
and with these doubles ends my streak of 60+ consecutive shitposts without repeating digits

>>15666405
Gearing is a thing, also it gets like 50mpg probably which is good for an engine that produces that ammount of torque. Not to mention diesel is cheaper and taxes are usually lower for diesels.

>>15664758
The block on that Golf is also a gas engine block for carbed and mechanical fuel injection versions, all of which worked very well. Most versatile block FTW.

>>15666641
>>15666445
>>15667269
>>15666861

Google says its towing capacity is 1000 kg or 2200 lbs with a braked trailer.

http://www.gocaravanning.com/towcars/Fiat-Grande-Punto-06-10-1-3-Multijet-GP-3d-Tow-Weights.html

My next DD will probably be a diesel. Had one as a courtesy car once and 60mpg @ 80mph is too good to ignore.

>>15664775
>objective advantages of diesel

>long life - Not inherent, but a design choice. Same life in petrol engines can be demonstrated by VW early diesels which shared blocks and cranks with gassers for many years.

Consumer diesels very expensive to maintain if something shits.

>no spark needed

So what? Diesel fuel systems are far more complex and require more parts.

>more energy per gallon in diesel fuel

Diesel is much more expensive in US. Energy per unit of currency is more valid metric.

>>15667300
>diesel is much more expensive in US

That's weird, in europe diesel is cheaper.

>>15666855
Shit you're right. Well I'm pretty sure that video is on his channel so he must have an autismo friend with the same exact shitbox as him

>>15667420
In the uk diesel is fractionally (as in 0.5p) more expensive, but due to castly better mpg diesles are cheaper to run

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>tfw you daily a new 2.8l TD Hilux 4x4
>tfw more efficient than my old shitbox camry
>tfw slowly putting parts on it so I can ride eternal across the deserts of Australia
As soon as my Tax Refund comes through, on goes the Bullbar, Snorkel, HID Spotlights, Rust Protection and UHF Radio.
Still to purchase is...
>Rear Canopy
>Side Bars and Steps
>Rear Bullbar
>Roof Rack for Cab
>Roof Rack for Canopy
>LED Light Bar for Cab Rack
>Same rolling diameter tyres but much, much wider for greater surface area touching the dirt
>Front Winch
>No lift, but stronger suspension to deal with weight and pressure from winch

The canopy on the tub is going to be a full time Sleeper Cab, I live in Brisbane so I plan to travel up to the most northern point of QLD, and down to the bottom of Tasmania.

Petrol will not make the journey, Diesels rule this desert country.

>>15662220
>>>15662195
>>>15662196
>t. cucks who don't like torks

Can someone tell me what t. Means
Ive alienated everyone i love in a manic quest to discover the truth

>>15668097
>Can someone tell me what t. Means

terveisin

t. knower

>>15668236
>>>15668097 (You)
>>Can someone tell me what t. Means
>terveisin
>t. knower


Ah, its "regards"
Thanks my dude i will think kindly of you

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>>15667823
That guy is italian, you dip.

Do you think this is an italian plate?

>>15662186
>He has to shitpost to try and salvage some pride for driving a DIESEL FIAT
> A DIESEL FIAT

There's a way out, you'know

>>15668792
Nice parking job m'lady. Next time try to fit into one spot.

>>15668862
Wasn't parked. Just stopped there, but okay.

>>15668835
Apparently *she

>>15666430
It's not a Daimler/Chrysler era Mercedes

And even then who gives a fuck if you messaging seats stop working? The drivetrain will still work

>>15668875
No way mjet is a she

>No tits
>No proof
>gtfo

>>15668896
>I stopped on two parking spots so technically I didn't park
That's some strong woman logic

>>15668896
>drives a 1.4 diesel fiat punto
it's definitely not a man

>>15668961
>you need to park perfectly between the lines even if you're stopping for a couple seconds
A U T I S M
U
T
I
S
M

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>>15668989
>stopping for a couple of seconds to take a picture of a 1.4 diesel punto
TOP LEL

>>15669001
So?

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>city is polluted due to whatever the fuck
>city council decides to block diesels entry from the city on certain high-pollution weeks
>basically if your license plate ends in an odd, you don't get to drive through the city during odd days, and the same is true for evens
That's why I drive petrol.

>>15669001
Parking like a man is autism now but stopping randomly to take a picture of diesel punto isn't.

>>15668888
except all the fault codes that will stop you from going through inspection

>>15668869
Mjet is portuguese? wtf i didnt know sand niggers like me went on /o/

>mjet has to tripfag
I mean, the fact that you have to beg for attention on an anonymous Tibetan knitting board pretty much means you should kill yourself already

>Your car is shit
>Your life is shit
>Your posts are shit

JUST end it.

/thread

>>15670083
>getting this mad
And you say there's no reason to trip, lmao.

>>15670249
>Tripping to get attention

You are such a cuck.Just jump off a bridge.

>>15662186
>>15662220

Only if it has a turbo

>>15670257
No need to get so mad.

>>15670319
Is a vgt enough?

>>15669778
Do you live in England or something?

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>>15664197
Heeeyyy, I've got an 85 super-cab 6.9. plan to turbo it eventually. I drive it pretty often. Truck is cat approved.

>>15665726
> one engine with the same power can tow more than an engine with the same power

unless if you suck at shifting you fucking american fat fuck

how fucking hard is it to move your right arm

>>15667089
yeah, everybody knows east asians are braindead

>>15671103
bullnose ford is best interior

'86 single cab 6.9 here

was driving a friends 140 hp diesel Mondeo yesterday
shits fucking fun yo, and sounds quite OK, too.

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>>15671615
Gotta love 80s red everywhere, and square everything

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFwmo_o5C2k
>2:26
>2400 hp
>3000 tqs

what the FUCK!!! why do we even bother with LS swaps and shit

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>>15667280

Yeah..... In Europe with no hills.... Try that in America or Canada and you'll be using one of these.

>>15672123
>europe has no hills

you are fucking retarded

the US and canada has way more plains than europe

>american education

>>15666904
>Torque for a really small powerband feels fast....for road driving

Surprisingly, I don't DD a diesel because it's fun to drive.
Its because its comfy, has good fuel economy and has enough power and gearing to over take pretty much anything on the road.
Its also quite comfortably able to cruise at 90+ mph.

>>15672241
Are you the dude with the 70 million liter super cab diesel or are you talking about small displacement diesels like 1.5 or 1.9?

>>15672671
>thinking he needs a large displacement diesel to overtake anything on the road
You murricans really need small diesels in your market. Maybe your ignorance would dissipate a bit.

>>15672745
>thinking you're going to overtake anything quickly when it takes your car 13+ seconds to get to 60
Kek

>>15672752
>he literally thinks overtaking someone is a quarter mile drag
Do you even have a license? lmao

>>15672759
>deluding yourself this much
Your shitbox is slow as fuck, smells like cancer and sounds awful.
Unless your roads are 1 mile straights you cannot perform overtaking maneuvres safely in your car.

>>15672759
Kek. Post more videos of your slowshit europoormobile and try to brag about muh torque.

>>15672775
>Unless your roads are 1 mile straights you cannot perform overtaking maneuvres safely in your car.
I cannot comprehend such level of stupidity.
So sorry.


>>15672778
Go to sleep, burger.

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>>15672759
>driving speed limit on a two lane road
>see grey car behind me going under it
>think he's mad I'm going the speed limit because it looks like he's trying to speed up
>car is no longer a grey splotch in my mirror
>goes into the left lane to pass me
>can see it about to get into my blind spot
>it's a diesel fiat
>it's barely gaining speed
>can hear the "muh tork" from the driver as he's struggling to push the gas pedal down further
>gets hit by a bus coming towards him

>>15672834
What's wrong, manchild? You don't have any actual rebuttal for the hilariously slow acceleration of your shitty car?
>j-just go to sleep stop bullying me

>>15672865
>benchracing
>calls other people manchild
lmao, k

>>15672872
>no job
>didn't buy own car
>doesn't pay for anything
>not a manchild
Kek. Pick one.
>y-youre just benchracing
I told you to prove that your diesel faggotbox was actually good at something and all you can do is move goalposts to completely avoid the argument. Your delusion is comical, but in reality I pity how retarded you are. Let this just be yet another time you stop posting and pretend you didn't make a thread where everyone calls you a dumbass.

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>>15672745
I'm poor-tuguese and my cousin's 1.5 diesel citroen ZX could barely overtake other cars on the road even when he dropped 2 gears and floored the gas pedal. Keep in mind it's a 30 year old car and has no turbo, modern diesels can do alot with just 1.3 liters and a tarbo strapped to the exhaust manifold.

>>15672877
>sour because I'm on uni and don't work
Gee, I'm sorry.

>>15672895
>completely avoiding slow diesel shitbox argument because you know you've already lost
>using school as an excuse to be a lazy faggot
Kek. The delusion just keeps on going. I guess when your balks haven't dropped you can't really handle being a real adult and taking responsibility for your life.

>>15662186

No revs.

Torque in all the wrong areas.

No sexy sounds.


Enjoy your tractor.

>>15673240
>No revs
Don't need revs when you have torque

>Torque in all the wrong areas
Plenty of torque down low, but no torque in higher RPM. Seems fair for cruising under 2000 RPM

>No sexy sounds
Subjective, I think older diesels sound great, like pure machinery.

Also, you get fantastic MPG and extra reliability with diesels.

>>15662195
That's not how pigfat works.

>>15673272
>fantastic MPG and extra reliability
sorry, pick one
t.reality

I know enough stories about modern diesel engine rebuilds that costed 2/3 price of a whole car to know

>>15673562
>I know enough stories about modern diesel engine rebuilds that costed 2/3 price of a whole car to know

Yeah you're just making shit up.

>>15673562
There's 25 year old diesels out there that get 50+ mpg and still run perfectly.
All you have to do is avoid shit brands like Volkswagen if you want your engine not to blow up.

>>15668011
Very cool anon.

Say it with me

>diesel fiat
>automatic
>living with mommy and daddy
>manchild with no direction
>only claim to "fame" is posting beaten to death reaction images from 4chan

>>15673751
suicide before 30

>>15673804
If we're lucky

>>15662186
l used to like you but you're becoming more and more alphonsic

Also I fucking hate the diesel smell, I come from work with a headache and I have to go through amplified diesel smells because I've got gall issues

>>15672880
>dropping gears
>in an old diesel

Most old diesels, even tarbod peak at about 2000-2500 rpm, over that and you wont be going anywhere.

>>15672880
>1.5 diesel citroen ZX
holy fuckin sheeit thought 1.5D were packed only to AX's Saxo, 106... This engine in ZX has to be epic slow
I had volvo 340 dorifto monster with 1.6 55hp nonturbo denzel

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>>15662186
The new diesel chevy Colorado's make me wet

>>15667300
>Consumer diesels very expensive to maintain if something shits.
yeah, modern ones, because of design choices in the diesel industry... not really an argument against diesels , just modern, consumer diesels.... I don't drive one of them either.... thats why there's whole forums of guys like me with the old, cheap to maintain one's that refuse to die. a lot of the advancements that make repairs pricey are the same advancements that will make your modern gasser more pricey.

>So what? Diesel fuel systems are far more complex and require more parts.

again... your critiquing the modern consumer diesel industry, not diesels. at the core, the only things a diesel would need but a gas engine wouldn't is a pre heating mechanism to start engine... which is usually glow plugs on the simplest type of circuit, and an injection pump capable of delivering fuel at a greater pressure. The pump can also serve as your general fuel pump, so that again simplifies, and there are wonderfully long lasting mechanical IPs available
>Diesel is much more expensive in US. Energy per unit of currency is more valid metric.
yup... still better even with that adjustment... right now diesel is just a little more expensive and its just a market issue.. refinement process is literally the same - a gas version of my golf would get about 3/4 the milage... check out fuel prices, do the math

>>15662186

aren't you the guy with the diesel fiat

>>15672123
Are you pretending?

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>>15668792
is that his car?

>>15669001
btfo. why would you take a pic of that yuro poor grandma ass car.

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A real diesel. Nothing beats the sound of 40psi and 7.3 liters of growl.

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>>15674583

I don't need to pretend anything. Have fun with your 40hp clown car while I pull bitches at the marina.

VAGs diesel motors are great. The PD130 was a great little 1.9 litre 4 cylinder diesel. I had a Skoda Fabia VRS with one an 130bhp and 230lb of torque. Tuners had a blast with those in the UK. Simple tunes would take you to 180bhp and 310lb of torque. Further tuning parts could take you to 220+bhp and nearly 360lb of torque.

The 3 litre V6 and 4.2 litre V8 diesels found in the Audi A6 and A8 are great units that take tuning well too.

The 5 litre V10s found in the Touareg and Phaeton were great engines too. 300+ brake and 700+ lb of torque depending on which vehicle they were in.

And then there's the 6 litre v12 diesel that was in the Audi Q7. 500PS and 1000NM of torque. Absolute brute of an engine.

>>15674938
>700+
correction 700nm, 550+ lb

>>15674938

They all make less torque than a gas V8. Junk. Yawn.

diesel in the US is a meme for passenger vehicles. it's often more expensive than regular gas and the vehicles themselves are more expensive due to all the filtering shit

>>15674958

Diesel is all about torque you fucking moron.

The 3 litre diesel twin turbo V6 found in the Audi A6 makes 310hp and 480lb.ft
The 3 litre petrol twin turbo i6 found in the M3/M4 makes 425hp and 406 lb.ft

The 4.2 litre diesel twin turbo V8 found in the Audi A8 makes 380hp and 627lb.ft
The 4.4 litre diesel twin turbo V8 found in the BMW M5 makes 560hp and 502lb.ft

At least in Europe. America however has a history of making horribly inefficient engines with massive capacity for fuck all in return, be it petrol or diesel. LIke the Ford power stroke someone posted a picture of above. 7.3 litre diesel. 235hp. 425lb.ft. At least the 3.5l V6 ecoboost for 2017 will perform better than the current 5 litre coyote V8. 385/387 for the coyote to the 450/470 for the ecoboost.

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>>15662459
>the sound
>the smell

>>15675083

You're making it worse bud. Way to compare modern engines to a 30 year old beast. It's pretty damn easy to get 627lb.ft out of a LS engine... It's pretty pathetic when a twin turbo diesel V8 can barely make that much.

>>15675135
A twin turbo diesel can barely make 627ftlbs? Double that buddy.

>>15675135

Making what worse? Diesels produce more fucking torque. By nature of the fuel and the way diesel engines work. It's that simple.

The current 5.2 V8 petrol in the Mustang can only manage 429lb.ft.
The current 5.2 V10 petrol in the Audi R8 can only manage 398lb.ft and 413lb.ft in the Plus model
The 12 year old 5.0 V10 diesel in the VW Touareg can manage 627lb.ft.

If you want more torque you need more displacement in NA engines and efficiency goes down the shitter.

>>15675182

Then strap a turbo or two onto the gas V8 and you couldn't make that little torque plus it'd be more efficient.

>>15675135
Nigga my 6.4 powerstroke with bolt on and tune makes 1240ftlbs and cruise on the highway at 28mpg

>>15675182
NA diesels make less torque, it's just that TDs run massive boost pressures to make up for it.
30psi from the factory is unheard of in petrol engines but it happens with diesels.

>>15675199
Diesel fuel is one of the most efficient and energy dense fuels available today. Because it contains more usable energy than gasoline, it delivers better fuel economy.

>>15675202

I know, I'm all for american truck diesels. It's just VW that's pathetic at making "big" diesel engines.

>>15675244
Comparing the basic specs of the 5.0tdi to the 5.0 cummins diesel and it seems okay.

>>15674447
It really is epic slow, but it's not really noticeable in city driving.

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>>15674810
>Ford
>Diesel
lol

>>15674938
If you're talking about tuning, the MB OM606 shits all over the VAG offerings. It makes 170ish HP in default form, but strap on a few common bolt-ons and you're now tickling the five hundred barrier with torks for days. Units making beyond 600 HP aren't unheard of either, and how often do you see a diesel rev out to 7 grand?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FYttMIdUmA

My work truck is a large djsplacement i4 turbo diesel
Slowest laggiest harshest worst sounding pieve of shit ive ever had the displeasure of drivjng
Take off in 1st at 1000rpm and wot, takes ten seconds to get to 30kmh then it surges like a spastic to redline to 40kmh then into second and SLOOOW until 60kmh
Kill me its fucking trash
God tjer economy though

>>15675385
>mocking the 7.3 Diesel
Son you better watch yourself from that edge