Redpill me on the GT86/BRZ/FR-S /o/

Basically a miata

Good handling but gutless, no power.

Fun platform, Wish it had a different engine.

It needs real tires to be an even match with the focus. If you want an autocross car it's perfect. If you want a dragster it's not. Ecoboost is better for power mods brz is better for handling. Brz has better build quality.

>>15626965
>Redpill me
can this meme die? It's worse than the ecoboost shilling

>torque dip
>165 whp
>Fisher-Price toy interior
>Prius tires
>26k price tag
It's shit.

>>15626965
Cheap FR shitbox with plenty of aftermarket support. Think modern day S-chassis; nothing special off the shelf, but can be made great at the owner's expense.

FA20D a shit. Consider forced induction or a swap if you want it to be fast.

>>15627055
Assmad V8 cuckold spotted

>>15626965
For the price you could buy a v6 Mustang

For financially irresponsible people that want the look and meme but don't actually want a sports car.

You can literally buy 2 or 3 C5 Corvettes for the price of a new 86.

>>15626965
They need camber adjustment on the front wheels and better tires. Torque dip get talked about a lot but you'll be revving above it when you're on it, and its there for fuel economy when you're just cruising around. It is to the current decade what the old 86 and 240sx were to the 80s and 90s.

>>15626965
Car looks cool and is a cool concept. Fucked up by having garbage boxxer engine.

>>15626968
Can't drift a fiesta

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>>15626965
If you want to modify a car it's a solid choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut55yR2Yu8M
Better as a cheap base model with no toys.

>>15627107
>>15627142

And if you don't live in America? if outright performance isn't a concern are they good for late night dorifto out of the box or do they need mods?

I'd rather have erectile disfunction than torque dip.

>>15629476
This.
Although ill probably still buy one and never mod it.

>>15627107
>for the price you could buy a substantially more boring landbarge

k

>>15626965
It's great but way too fucking expensive.

>>15630960
>way too expensive
Theyre $27k new, stick with your beater civics you fucking poorfag

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>>15630966
>tfw live in a second world country
>tfw salary is ~1000Euros
>tfw this is better than 99% of the population
>tfw even though I'm an electrical engineer, cars like this are out of my reach and always will be

>>15630984
move to a first world country and earn your 1000 euros every week

>>15630993
>leave behind friends, family and country just so I can buy the newest car

There are more important things than $$$s. I am sad however that sportscars hold their values so well. Most cars lose half of their value in the first 2 years, but GT-86s have lost 2-3k$ tops, and have been truly abused during that time.

>>15630688
The torque dip is like having an inch of dick in the middle that doesn't get hard.

>>15631924
kek

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>>15631020
>There are more important things than $$$s
And this is why you will always be at the hilt of Americas dick

>>15632910
>America
>Highest debt in the history of debt.

>>15626965
>Slow
>cheap
>Look alright
>modder's wet dream

One of the rare times when you could get a better deal buying an AE86 mememobile

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>>15632977
>And still able to buy brz

Get fucked poorfag.

It's a decent, entirely modular, cheap sports car that comes with a six-speed option in the days of boring appliances designed for women. /o/ once worshipped the car until it became another meme and became the next target of bitter busriders.

>>15632977
My only debt is my brz. Suck it europoor

Slower than an $8000 Boxster

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>>15633288
Porsche disaster race

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>>15626965
>Redpill
>>>/pol/

>>15626965
>>15627388
>>15625454
Why so many active 86 threads, is it all just a shitpost?

>>15626965
>tfw this could've been a good car without the meme engine.
No idea why Subaru keeps on pushing their inherently flawed engine.

>>15626965
>used to post back in 12-13'
>got tired of the anime
>this car came out
>loved the concept
>slowerthanaminivan.jpg
>feels bad man
>stop coming to /o/
>come back
>see this
>/o/ is still shit

>>15626968

Front Wheel Drive shit box vs a proper sports car?

>>15626968
>biggest gap is 2 seconds
Easily driver error

It doesn't have a chevy 350 in it

>>15630948
>Brostang
>landbarge
U wot m7

>>15633639
>2 seconds
>driver error

I'm not defending either car here, but have you ever gone on a race track?

>>15633664
>190in long 3500lb heavy
>not a morbidly obese landbarge

>>15633672
No, have you?

>>15633672
That's irrelevant. A driver error could easily account especially for those sub-second time differences.

>>15633688
More often than you, apparently

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>>15633696
So no.

>>15633705
>frogposting
Public transit user detected

>>15626965
3000lb 140whp shitbox mounted on prius tires

>>15627101
>cheap
When will this meme die?
When it comes to small FR the 86 is btfo by the cheaper Miata. When it comes to other sports cars as a whole there are far cheaper options: Mustang, Civic si, Focus ST, even Camaro is the same price for 135 more hp.

A used M3 is always the better choice.

>>15633677
It's big but fast. Faster than both these shit cars and your bus too.

>>15633727
>When it comes to small FR the 86 is btfo by the cheaper Miata.
Good the the 86 doesn't look like a fucking chick car then. Of all the stupid /o/ memes, that one is the most correct.

>>15633727
The miata is only faster when optioned out to cost more
Also no roof etc

The rest of the cars you listed... roflmao

>>15633737
What are you babbling about? The buzzwords are obscuring your English.

>>15633748
Miata a chickmobile.

>>15633755
>>15633737
>chick mobile
>99% of drivers are men

>>15633741
>he things the FRShit is superior to a comfy e46.
>He thinks the BRZzzzz is more exciting than a 370z
>he would rather buy a poorly made, slow meme car rather than save up for a Cayman

>>15633762
>>chick mobile
>>99% of miata drivers are gay men
Pottery

>>15633768
You can get a used Cayman S for the price of a new FRS

>100 more bhp
>same curb weight
>better engine placement
>more practical with 2 trunks
>nicer interior

>>15633768
> e46
I don't want a rusty bmw that's falling apart and costs 10k in maintenance every year

> 370z
Confirmed to be significantly less fun to drive than a toyobaru by every major auto reviewer

> gayman
Lol

Thanks for playing

>>15633781
Are you insecure or something? Or are you just 16?

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>>15633791

>>15633788
>way less practical
>bitch to work on
>unreliable
>expensive parts
You could just add FI to the 86

>>15633791
>>15633781
>has no argument other can "LOL GAY"

You need to be 18 to post here, kiddos

>>15633794
>he drives a chick car and gets butthurt about it
roflmfao baka senpai did your bf fuck you in an NA desu???

>>15633788
THIS
H
I
S

thank you. I wanted an 86 for a long while until I realized the Cayman is superior in every way.

>>15633805
But I have two other arguments, dumb faggot

cayman is also ugly af and considered by everyone to be a poorfag midlife crisis porsche for limp dicks and women

>>15633800
>way less practical
Boo hoo, you can't carry your legless children in the back in exchange for actual trunks
>bitch to work on
Confirmed for never having wrenched on cars, everything is easy to access
>unreliable
Porsche is second to Lexus in long term reliability
>expensive parts
Only if you willingly get cucked by stealerships

>>15633818
The only Porsche worth getting is a 911 or a 944 (if poorfag)

>>15633818
>>15633823
Any real car person knows that the Cayman is a proper driver's car gimped because it would be faster than the 911

>>15633818
>considered by everyone

If I owned a Cayman, the opinion of non Cayman owners would matter very little to me.
I'll just enjoy my 300 hp FMR with 9 speakers, comfy leather and crazy robot cup holder hand which folds out of the glove compartment.

>>15633815
I was in your position as well, but the Cayman just offered so much more value to me

New cars are just generally shit value, though I'd consider the FRS once they're readily available closer to $10-12k

>>15633820
But it is a bitch to work on
Damage control harder

And parts are expensive no matter where you get them unless it's noname aftermarket from chinkland

>>15629910
>>15633500
>>15633639
Retards spotted

>>15633839
There are extra steps involved, but it isn't all that harder

Sure changing the spark plugs requires you to jack up the back and take off the wheels first, but if you can't even do those 2 things why the hell are you even working on cars?

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>>15633820
You can fold down the rear seat of the 86 to get hella space. Somehow I don't believe a mid engined car is easy to wrench on.

>>15633827
"Huur it would be better than the 911 if it had 9000 more horsepower than it!!!"

If it were truly a better platform porsche would use it as their gt3 car but no... they don't
Cayman fags just fuck right off with your bullshit, they always say this but can never ever offer anything that supports their claim that isn't a logical fallacy

>>15633834
> fmr

>>15633835
Exactly. If I could find a newish Toyobaru under 18k then my opinion would be very different. Until then, the car is way too expensive and it's worth paying a little more for a proper sports car.

How do you like the Cayman in the end? Any ragrets?

>>15633868
>18k
You can though. That's a pretty typical price.

>>15633868
My only regret is that I didn't get a Cayman but got a Boxster instead

Soft tops are pretty shit and the frame is fucked, so I got a hard top for it and plan on removing the ragtop entirely

>>15633862
Just go look up tutorials, it's pretty simple once you know how to access everything.
You can change the serpentine belt from inside the car by undoing a few 10mm hex bolts that hold down the rear panel, it's easier than a car with a transverse engine

>>15633864
The Cayman GT4 already outperforms all lower end 911s and is only really bested by the Turbo and GT3. Give it the GT3 engine and then you'll have something

This has been a thing for ages, back in the late 90s/ early 2000s RUF shoved a 911 engine in a Boxster and gave it an LSD and the car was faster the the 911s of the time

>>15633000
>front plate
Absolutelydisgusting.jpg

>>15633727
The cheapest miata doesn't even have an lsd. Have you ever bought parts for a new BMW? That shit is cray.

>>15633918
>implying a quality LSD is hard to swap in

>>15633727
>sports car
>Civic si, Focus ST, even Camaro
Ayy lmao

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^ Literally the only reason to get a GT86

>>15633847
*tips fedora*

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>>15633997
Ugly af, doesn't even match the body lines

>>15626965
Good chassis held back by a shit engine

>>15633933
>swap in
There's the problem.

>inb4 $500 and an afternoon

>>15634186
>implying an LSD is as hard to swap in as an engine

>inb4 $500 and an afternoon
But it literally is $500 and an afternoon

>>15633695
2 seconds is not sub second

>>15634026
To each his own

/o/ hates because gud fun car. buy one OP

>>15635012
This tbqh

>hurr you can get a used car with better specs at that price
>hurr i'm gonna buy it used and when the price drops down to $1488

There's no used car market if no one buys new cars, dipshit.
>in before thanks for testdriving my car, cuck ;^)
You are the cuck here, going for leftovers

How's the bus by the by

>>15626965
>Redpill me on the GT86/BRZ/FR-S /o/

Tragic story of a potentially great car ruined by a shit engine. I probably would have bought one if it had something like a beams 3sg

>>15626965
If you put in nearly 100k in mods, you can supposedly have yourself a nice little track car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_f1e2a9K5s

>>15626978
ENGINE SWAP

>>15635422
so you get a car that's faster than 458 but still cheaper

>>15635407
>3sg
Want to know how I know how little you know about engines?

>>15635407
This.
It joins the RX8 as a car ruined by a shit engine.

And yes, it is a shit engine. Massive, massive hole in the middle of the rev range, no power overall, no cheap power mods, annoying to work on.

>>15632977

>not understanding how debt works

the U.S. owns the world, cuck. deal with it.

>>15633820
>Porsches are reliable
fucking lol'd

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>>15635453
Sure, go for it, show us how dumb you are.

>>15635494
You can keep posting meme responses, doesn't make it any less true

How do you even feel the torque dip when it have so little torque in the first place?

>>15637141
Without a tune to fix it, the car doesn't feel like it's accelerating at all. Source: I own one.

>>15638115
But at least winter is coming.
Those skimpy tires will become the fun factor, unlike mine.
Source: I don't own one but I own a SAAB 9-5 with around 315-320HP and 542Nm.

>>15629910
you cant