Mazda to start official NA Miata restoration service

>>15623615
And for some fucking reason Nissan won't do the same for the Skyline GT-R.

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>>15623615
hope they do one for rotary

>>15623681
no, mazda hates us.
>so does the EPA

>>15623667
Nissan isn't an enthusiast company anymore so why would they care? Theyre too busy making CVTs and crossovers

damn... mazda really is the best

>>15623746
Unfortunately, outside the Miata Mazda can't be assed to make enthusiast cares either.

>new MS3 and MS6 when?
>new RX when?

>>15623750
Lol no ms until 2021
They can still fuck off with that shit

This will be available for North American markets?

>>15623750
rotary: MIA
MazdaSpeed: MIA

pretty cool, nice to see some companies actually care
this better not be japan only


too bad they can't simply produce more
i'd gladly buy a brand new NA

>>15623756
At least Mazdas cars still come in manual

>>15623902
>brand new NA

How much would it cost?

>>15623756
But their "normal" cars are more enthusiast than the competitions.

>>15623916
>base model low-powered FWD econobox
>oh but it has a manual, SCORE!

let me know when they offer something with more than 200 hp and a stick

>>15624064
I don't think you really understand Mazda as a company...at all

>>15623958
probably close to a ND price
they could bring down the cost a bit if they used some modern electrical parts for irrelevant stuff like air conditioning

still, it's just wishful thinking
it's not possible even if they wanted to make them

>>15624064

Seems like you have a poor understanding of mazda and cars for in general for that matter.

>>15623615

would be cool if it was a restomod service and not just a restoration.

After driving it for the first time for a week, stock miata's are boring as fuck and embarrassingly slow.

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>>15624085
>>15624074

Mazda continues to make underpowered cars because of people like you.

>>15624095
Mazda is one of the last companies to focus their sportier cars to the young market instead of raising the price point and going for Luxury Sport for middle aged fuckers going through their mid-life crisis. Yes, that means their cars are on average underpowered just like the Toyobaru but that's still something for people to be able to buy young and enjoy.

>>15624095
Detroit keeps knee-jerking about cars with high horsepower numbers that are terrible and unbalanced in every other way because of people like you.

>>15624095
you do realize, cars like the FD only made the ZOMG HP power numbers with the aftermarket?

Even the MS cars weren't known to make astounding numbers.

>>15624074
>>15624085
>HERP DERP MUH DRIVING DYNAMICS

I fucking love Mazdas, but that doesn't excuse the fact that they've gone away from what made them so great. What they've done historically is create an excellent balance of power and handling, something that is missing almost entirely from their current lineup.

The Miata gets away with relatively low power because of its light weight, but apart from that all of their performance oriented cars (RX-7, RX-8, Mazdaspeed3, Mazdaspeed6, etc.) have had a decent amount of power on tap.

No enthusiast is buying a 155hp/2900lb Mazda3, no matter how divine the handling is.

>>15624095
Is the RX7 supposed to prove a point or are you aware that you're an idiot?

>Mazda winning awards with every model they have out
>THEY SHOULD PUT A HEMI IN THE 6 AND MAKE IT RWD, THEN THEY WILL BE GOOD

>>15624106
>Mazda is one of the last companies to focus their sportier cars

Yeah, they have the Miata and the... ?

>>15624127
Cars are getting vastly more expensive as time goes by, manufacturers are getting less and less new people interested in buying cheap sports cars, and safety is slowly increasing weight pretty much no matter what people do. It's amazing that Mazda still has a Miata capable of doing what it does.

>>15624126
You realize that the FD made about 100 more horsepower than anything Mazda currently offers, with the exception of the 2+ ton CX-9, right?

>>15624127
>No enthusiast is buying a 155hp/2900lb Mazda3, no matter how divine the handling is.

i actually would if it handled that well and if the engine was open to further modifications

Ok I'm interested there. Mine is in pretty rough shape, but I wonder how much it will cost.

>>15624442
I did, it's the best DD I've ever owned.

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>>15623615
holy shit. am i dreaming?

>>15624465
if they don't go full retard like nissan and charge an absolute fuckton with their 240z restoration, maybe maybe a nice 8k-10k.

>>15624703
That will probably greatly depend on the car's state. If we are talking about a commiefornia miata it could be just a cheap refresh but if it's one from Colorado the rust would make it a heavy work.

>>15624149
Stop being obnoxious. Admit you're in the wrong. So many people against you here mate.

They should call them NA 1.5's, then add modifications to resolve the issues the production version had rather than just restoring them to production standard.

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>>15624746
NA issues:

>Rust
>????

I hope I get a special snowflake sticker/badge that comes with the package so I can sell it for even more in the future because "its rare, i kno wut i gots"

>>15624746
rust and maybe not the greatest cooling route
and that only happens if you push it REALLY hard, like a track use

that's about it

>>15624759
>>15624746
Shit steering wheel, short nose crank for 89,90,91
Too much foam in the seats?
Not much wrong with it.

>>15624806
>Shit steering wheel

you whot m8?
dunno about the murrican one but european steering wheel was great
i actually had second thoughts when i was replacing it for a nardi torino wheel

>>15624803
>and that only happens if you push it REALLY hard, like a track use
Which is why they designed it as a non-interference engine.

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>>15624812
The one with the airbag.
Besides the fact that it feels really thin and unsubstantial, it's so big that I can't heel toe with it.
I'd get an aftermarket one, but I like my face in one piece. Ones with airbags are like $300 too.
I'm 6'3", so it's more my fault but still

Is Mazda is only Japanese car manufacturer that still keeps enthusiasts in mind?

>>15625061
NSX was a failure, but we'll see how the new Supra is.
(Newpra?)

>>15624852
>I like my face in one piece
I had one deploy in my face when I slid into a muddy embankment at like 5mph. It fucked my shit up. The plastic channels that tear down the middle are really sharp and slashed both of my wrists (I was holding the wheel at 9 and 3), and the bag itself bruised my face and gave me a bloody nose. After that experience, and after reading about a number of unintended airbag deployments, I feel a lot safer without it.

Early airbags were just a check mark in the spec sheet though, they weren't actually designed to be part of the car. I think it was pretty telling of the efficacy of early airbags that when I reported to my insurance company that I no longer had an SRS, my premium only increased by $0.18 per month.

>>15624127
Good to an autocross sometime and realize mazda 3's are as common as miatas. They are the compromise car. 1) practical 2) economical 3)well balanced 4)fun (or as fun as a 4door sedan with a 2liter can be)

>>15625098
If you crash into something at 30 mph, would you rather have slashed wrists and a bruised face, or be dead/paralyzed?

>>15625149
Just don't crash :^)

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>>15625098
That sounds terrible. I should probably replace the steering wheel in my MR2. Old airbags are shit.

>>15625163
I was really considering that wheel for my Miat, but a better option might be the Nardi from the NB Miata, they go for like 100 bucks.

This makes me feel bad about selling my NA. It's all rotted out underneath and needs about $2K in body work.

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>>15625194
nigga, that nardi doesn't work at all with the NA interior

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>>15625214
???

>>15625149
If you're driving down the street at 30 MPH, would you rather get to where you're going or have your airbag deploy for no reason, slash your wrists, crush your noise, crash into oncoming traffic while you're stunned, and then be dead or paralyzed?

The fact that my insurance only increased by $0.18/month is the most damning evidence against early airbags. The net difference in cost my insurance company expects to see over the next ten years, weighted for odds of an actual life-threatening crash involving extremely expensive emergency care, is $21. Once again, that's $21 to balance out ten years of driving without an airbag. If they're so monumentally unimpressed by the effectiveness of that airbag, why do you trust it to save your life?

car companies claim to be passionate. mazda is the only brand that consistently crosses my mind as passionate. shit like this is why. if i were in the market for a new car; would probably buy a mazda.

>>15625216
like i said, it looks like shit

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>>15623750
>>15623762
lmao...

LMAO!!

>>15624127
>No enthusiast is buying a 155hp/2900lb Mazda3, no matter how divine the handling is.

There's a 184hp option.

>>15625149
>crashing into something at 30mphs
>dying

>>15625507
man I've known people that turned into vegetables just by hitting their steering wheels at 5 mph with a really terrible spot of their necks.

>>15624136
Sportier cars =/= sportscars

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>>15625098
you're a fucking retard if you think airbags are a joke. Your insurance only increased by .18 because now they don't have worry about your punk ass when you get killed in a fenderbender going 20 mph.


It's already been shown that airbags are statistically one of the safest things in cars, beside seat belts, but fuck off and just go win your darwin award we don't need more knuckle dragging brain dead retards in our genetic pool

>>15626433
t. Jan Carlson of Autoliv

>>15623902
Nice thought.

Wouldn't happen due to safety more than anything. An NA won't make a 5 star ANCAP rating (I'm an Aussie, I know the names change in order countries bit the idea is the same).

They could engineer it to be safer but it wouldn't be an NA anymore.

I don't know if there could be a work around if they were selling NOS, but for a brand new vehicle, wouldn't happen.

Lovely thought though.

>>15625498
Damn, I wish my Mazda 3 could get a turbo'ed 2.5 liter with somewhat stiffer suspensions, around 230hp would be more than enough for some reasonable hooning.

Guys at Mazda should just give us a sportier trim goddammit, I don't care about the MS tag. Even Honda has more sports cars in their lineup nowadays.

>>15625095
Newpra:
>AWD
>V6
>Hybrid

>>15626433
If we were talking about a modern car that's been engineered from the ground up to turn into a gigantic pillow when it gets in an accident, I'd agree with you. But instead, we're talking about a car that wasn't intended to have them at all, and had a single airbag bolted on at the last moment to comply with new US safety laws requiring it.

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Will this be offered in the US?

Who fucking cares
Start producing 12a housing and rotors again

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The only good Mazda's are either Rotary or Turbo or both. Mazda's current line of cars are not a good reflection of what made Mazda's great.

>>15628251
12a? Really? Don't know much about them other than the 13b being their successo, but I always thought people swapped 12a's out for the newer rotarys

>>15628386
they will come back

>>15628424
12a is swapped out more often than not because it's fat cheaper to go with a 13b than hunt down expensive 12a parts that haven't been produced in ever

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>>15625264
>car companies claim to be passionate. mazda is the only brand that consistently crosses my mind as passionate. shit like this is why. if i were in the market for a new car; would probably buy a mazda.

>gives Mazdaspeed lineup the axe
>no rotary for years
>almost complete line up is made of sub 200 hp cars
>finally makes a turbo motor, but decides to put it in a 4k lb suv
>halo sports car is slower than an 4 cylinder pigfat mustang
>Hasn't participated in le mans for nearly 15 years
>Hasn't competed in rally for nearly 15 years

WOW SO PASSIONATE

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>>15623681
>>15623733
trump wins
removes tacos and EPA
Mazda announces rotary restoration
Make Doritos Grate Again

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>>15628501
>MOMMY I WANT MY SPORTS CAR NOW!!!!
Do you not understand how business works?
Go cry more bitch boy.

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>>15628588
>invest tons of money in turbo diesel race car
>not a single turbo diesel car in line up

>>15623746
Nismo is the enthusiast branch, why can't Nissan hand off all of the original drawings and specs for parts so they can do parts runs? I'm sure they'd gouge the shit out of people but if the market will bear it....

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>>15628673
Huh?

>>15628688

I'm sorry does that race car say "MZR diesel"?

>>15628682
Nissan flat out destroys/recycles all their parts older than 10 years.
Ever try finding a part for a 240sx? None exist. Not even recalled safety equipment.
Fuck nissan

>>15628697
>not a single turbo diesel car in line up
But there is.
What does mzr have to do with it.
Fuck off salty fag

>>15628705

Cause he posted an MZR engine when that race car was developing the new engine.

I live in the states, so no skyactiv-D here.

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>>15628725
Shut up

>>15628673
CX-5 and Mazda6. They don't have a non-turbo diesel.

>>15628501
>>no rotary for years
rotaries are maintenance nightmares
>>almost complete line up is made of sub 200 hp cars
you don't need fuckloads of horsepower, they don't make race cars
>>Hasn't participated in le mans for nearly 15 years
not really important to production cars
>>Hasn't competed in rally for nearly 15 years
see above

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>>15628845
>rotaries are maintenance nightmares
Literally the same maintenance as piston engines.
God damn i hate people

>>15623615
I've seen a clean NA Miata in red. It was a beautiful thing.