/hhg/ - Hot Hatch General

First for ecoboost

>be washing my Fiesta ST today
>some butch woman with a Focus ST washing her car in the bay next to mine
>she comes over and chats with me and is pretty nice
>tells me she wishes she got the fiesta instead of focus
>shoot the shit about cars for a few minutes
>invites me to a ST/RS meetup

sh-should I go?

Can you show me some HH with RWD?

Not looking for a race car, but I'm possibly looking at buying a Focus. Why the fuck do I have to get the "Titanium" package just to get leather seats? In fact you can't get leather seats with any car without paying for a bunch of other shit I don't even want.

>>15620506
please go and make friends so you can get off this board

>>15620459
I have a 2015 Civic Si. I've been researching where to start in terms of squeezing more power out of it and naturally I thought CAI. But after going to multiple forums, everyone says you HAVE to get a $700 tune for it to make a difference.

On top of that, a retune is $100 for every changed part. So I'd have to pay $100 and drive aroud for diagnostics every time I added a part. So, I feel like it's either save up $2200 for ALL the mods at once, or just say fuck it and try to pay it off to get something else.

Thoughts?

>>15620533
but you guys are my friends

>>15620506
Why wouldn't you?

>>15620510
Z3M Coupe/M Coupe
Ford Shogun

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>>15620544

>>15620533
You can work with a dealer to order a car, but you won't get much of a price break. Dealer ordered cars always are loaded up on features because they can sell them at a higher price. No reason to order a mid-range optioned vehicle for them unless it's an order.

>>15620540
Some places offer tunes with unlimited revisions for life, but i don't know if this is a thing on the Honda platform. You might get a little more noise from an intake, but a tune will really unlock the most power in any modern car.

>>15620563
Ok, sounds like I need to get the tune then.

The 2 forums I went to both recommended VIT tuning as the most reputable for Honda Si's

But fuck. $700. Oh well

>>15620563
Also, will I be putting reliability in any serious jeopardy? After driving an E46 330xi, I'm REALLY enjoying the low maintenance of Honda.

>>15620582
>rice tax

>>15620586
I mean you'll definitely cause increased wear and tear extracting higher performance from everything, and you'll also jeopardize any warranty you might have left. But it'll also be fun.

>>15620587
Is that what that means?

i always thought it meant any given rice car was gonna be more trashed because of the people who usually drive/mod them

t. firsttimejapanesecarowner

>>15620582
tuners for fiesta STs offer unlimited tunes for around $300

>>15620595
well fuck me right

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Just drove home my new car.
Loving it so far.

>>15620666
Congrats on your purchase and those trips.

>>15620506
You should go. It sounds like the start of an adventure!

Wait for the i30N.

>>15621080
>hyundai
>waiting when ford will surely fuck up the FiST and FoST on the next redesigns

just got to stage 1 in my FiST this past week. Installed the Cobb RMM yesterday, seems to be doing it's job well, much less wheel hop (almost completely eliminated) on WOT 2nd gear pulls.

I've read that there is no need to go to a 'stage 3' on this car, and that the only other thing it needs to unlock maximum power on the stock turbo is a new intercooler and pro tune. Anyone have knowledge if this is true?

I was planning to do a new IC sometime next year probably once I put my sticky tires back on after snow season.

>>15621135
Refreshed Fiesta looks bretty good actually.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2018-ford-fiesta-st-spy-photos-news

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>>15621164
Can confirm on a stock turbo Fiesta ST you won't see additional gains for anything other than an intercooler and a custom tune. If you're going to do a turbo swap you'll probably need a turbo-back exhaust.

Congrats on getting the RMM installed.

>>15621185
thx for the info senpai

also i'm going to the ST octane academy in October, anyone else been?

>>15620666
Fuark, anyone know similar two door hot hatches being sold in the US?

Is that a Scirocco?

>>15621209
The closest one is a VW R which is the only available two-door hatch available in the US I guess.

I think that's an OPEL Astra GT or something.

>>15621371
I mean Golf R.

>people unironically recommending the golf R

>>15622834
Something wrong with the golf R?

I want a Mazdaspeed 3 but I have heard people describe the experience as "more like an amusement park ride than a car."

Does anyone daily drive one?

>>15623017
It's 35k for a Golf with Haldex AWD are the general complaints.

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>>15620666
Looks really good breh.

>>15621371
Astra OPC.

>>15623038
Better than just the straight FWD on the GTI, and apparently it's the only 3 door hot hatch

>>15623048
Thanks Famalam.

Those are some sexy white rims.

Okay /o/,

Ausfag here, should I buy a MK6 GTI?

>>15624236
i can only speak for my self, But i dislike the interior of VAG cars. Feels so plastic.

But say more, whats your budget?

>>15624272
About $25k

>>15624277
Seat leon cupra r 10-2013 is you like the VAG styleing.

Renault Mégane III 2.0T

Or a VW MK6, but make sure its not DSG.

>>15624294
Whats wrong with the DSG apart from the obvious that its not manual?

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>>15624333
They break, simply put.

Just google "DSG Trans problems" and there tons of articles. But also, in a HH, you´ll want it to be manual.

pic kinda releated.

>>15621190
I wish I had the chance too, I was pretty busy the year after I bought my car unfortunately, never got a chance to make it out to Utah.

>>15624637

Not to mention, instead of selling certain parts, VAG only offers to sell you a reman tranny for a few grand. They won't even sell you a new one.

>>15620459
Is Geo Metro a good car to start learning manual? How will the maintenance costs be? Yes, this is gonna be my first car.

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I bought a hot hatch, thoughts?

>>15625262
you made the right choice, enjoy it and may you find many twisties in your future

Growing up a bit and moving on from my RA65. Looking for a fun/lightweight hatch with a bit of storage space and usable back row. Can have 2 or 4 doors, prefer 2

>>15625262
Looks good anon, the stripes are more subtle than in the stock photo.

>>15625262
Noice anon. I like the subtle stripeing.

whats the power output in one of those?

>>15625410
197hp and 202lb-ft

The Mountune MP215 kit retains warranty and bumps it up to 215hp and 236lb-ft, though it has to be dealer installed ($$$)

How is the FiST on the highway? Don't imagine the Recaros are too comfy. Might have to go on a cross-country trips.

>>15623109
Still a terrible value.

>>15625595
Recaro's are super comfy on the highway, they just need to break in from the factory. I routinely have done 5-6 hour trips in mine and love it. It's also a super quiet highway, but pretty bumpy. Downsizing wheels helped me out a lot with ride quality.

Also the qt3.14 used to hate the Recaro seats, but now likes them well enough to ride in them on long-ish trips.

>>15620459

What's the latest about the new Civic Type R product model? wasn't there some shit about the one that got the 'ring record being a prototype or not production spec?

>>15625484
dynos have consistently shown the torque ratings are significantly higher than rated as stock. I think peak torque is actually 220-230 lb-ft stock as dyno tested by a few independant sources.

The cobb OTS stage 1 map should get you near 245-250 lb-ft of torque which is pretty crazy for such a light car and no (significanlt) modfications

New golf r when? Why no r400 ever?

>>15625738

dieselgate

Any reason not to pick up a Fiesta ST this year? I know there is a refresh on the horizon but people seem to think Ford is going to fuck it up somehow

>>15625808
No, the 17s will likely be very similar to the 16s. Though they might depreciate faster due to the model refresh, who can really know?

You might be best off finding a lightly used 15 or 16 instead of buying new.

The 2018s are likely to be quite a bit nicer inside though.

>>15625808
16's have the new SYNC which is better

>>15625262
Congrats man. Looks real nice.

>>15625808
what this guy said >>15625950. Also android auto should be soon (tm).

The refresh is likely to be in 2018, i'm not too confident that ford won't fuck it up. They've got a great thing going. I don't see the engine changing but probably an interior/exterior refresh, which could be a problem if they add too much weight

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>>15620666
Looking good man. Blue HH crew reporting in :) A friend of mine will take decent pictures are I get my coils.

>>15621209
This is my Scirocco.

>>15620459
just bought an 3' GTI VR6 a few months ago, any mods you guys suggest?

>>15626547
ECOBOOST

but for realz, a simple tune, is good bang for your bucks

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>>15626547
2003* and here is a pic

>>15626547

Springs, ARBs, bushes...

>>15626580
silver isn't my favorite color but hope you have fun bud :)

>>15620459
Took my license in a Golf GTI, best car I've ever driven, only problem with it was the too sensitive breaks, if you moved the pedal half an inch it came to a full stop. Maybe I'm just used to old worn out cars.

>>15627656
you probably are; at any rate that's something that can be changed if needed. I recently drove my gf's car and told her I thought she needed new brakes because they needed so much more travel then my cars but she said that's always how it's been

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New car. Already pumped a grand into it for services.

Just done at 120k
>Timing belt, water pump
>Serpentine belt
>Power steering fluid change, full synthetic oil change.

Parts ready, installation this week
>New radiator, new brakes and rotors, fix front left wheel bearing, raise front suspension to stop fender rub

To Do:
>New non rice deck, 10" spec built subwoofer and clean amp for tasteful sound and clarity
>custom diamond stitched hood bra to cover up minor blemishes
>Window Tint
>Gloss dip mirrors black
>sandblast and powder coat wheels gunmetal grey as well as brake pads in fresh red or color matched blue.

So far though im loving the car. Its old but it's fun to drive. Cant wait to work out the tint kinks and have a smooth ride.

>ecoboost

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>>15620459
So this is the new 2017 Civic Hatchback.
> 1.5-liter DOHC direct-injected turbocharged in-line 4-cylinder with peak output of 174 horsepower and 162 lb.-ft. of torque in LX, EX and EX-L trims
>180 horsepower and 162 lb.-ft. of torque in the Sport and an all-new Sport Touring

>31/40/34 mpg (city/highway/combined) for CVT-equipped models

>The 2017 Civic Hatchback was developed jointly by Honda R&D teams in Europe and Japan and will be manufactured exclusively by Honda of the UK Manufacturing in its Swindon, UK plant.

>>15630492
Also forgot to add.
>6 speed manual

>>15630492
I could be wrong, but don't you have to get the CVT for any of the desirable engine configs? (outside of maybe the Type R)

>>15624294
I have witnessed VW manuals dropping shifter forks without any warning into the gears rendering the gearbox seized solid. Then again that is way less common than DSG just shitting its mechatronics.

>>15630492
Wooow that thing is ugly.

>>15631099
I think it looks quite nice, big improvement over the 9th gen hatchback, 2L diesel when.

>>15630492
Woah man, that looks cool enough. So does it mean the hatchback will cost more than the sedan?

>>15630492
It looks like an edged up Mazda 3... I wish japanese would return to simple and function designs, rather than trying to be exaggerated edge lords.

>not ecoboost

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>>15630501
the article (http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2016/08/2017-honda-civic-hatchback-finally-revealed-hits-dealers-this-fall.html)
says that the LX sport and EX trims have an available 6-speed manual.

Might not be a bad option but holy crap it's ugly. I wish it was more.. hatchy with a taller back. It reminds me of the 2016 accord crosstour which is also ugly as fuck (pic related)

so that nissan in the OP, is it something we'll see in burgerland?

>>15620530
you to get the st
titanium is just the i am too dumb to buy a full size sedan trim

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>>15630492
what the fuck am i looking at

Canadian here. 43k for a new gti 5 door in Ontario. Ugh what is happening to our currency