/hhg/ - Hot Hatch General

First for ecoboost

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>>15566871
Aww yeah.

>>15566871
>FiST for Ecoboost
How can VAG compete?

just bought a cobb AP, rear motor mount, and panel filter for my FiST. Quick shift will be incoming once FSWerks is back in stock as well

I'm hype

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Are combi-coupés allowed?

>>15567383
looks good enough for me senpai

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>>15567413
Kewl. These things are pretty damn slick, and I'd have got one if it weren't for the 9-5 being quicker and nimbler.

>>15567349
Nice! Have you picked out a tuner you're going to use as well? And is the FSwerks Quick Shift a plate adapter or the whole shifter assembly?

The RMM is one of the best first mods you can do on the Fiesta.

>>15567458
Just ashift plate adapter. I don't think I want the whole assembly based on how much shorter throw the adapters alone make it.

I have been reading reading a bunch of reviews on tuners and think I will go with tune+, but might wait until getting an IC to do so and stick with the OTS maps for now

>>15567475
Nice, the shift plate adapter (I have Mountune's) was not a fun install for me. It's a pretty tight space, took me about 90 minutes.

Tume+ is my tuner and I highly recommend him. Especially if you're considering running an ethanol blend. But waiting to do the intercooler is the right idea.

I'm considering doing the X37 turbo core swap this spring, if all goes well.

>>15567517
wasn't planning to do any ethanol, kind of hard to find around where I live. The FSWerks is pretty similar to mountune's but costs half as much. The install video makes it look so easy, what made it take so long?

>>15567539
Just a tight working space and big hands for the most part.

>>15567551
fair enough. Did you stay at 'stage 1' for a while? I'm wondering how much the stock maps will wake up the car

>>15567553
I didn't bother tuning for a while, I did the RMM/QuicKShift first, then a worthless intake (Cobb), got in on presales for the MAP exhaust and intercooler, added the AP, put on an eibach rear sway bar. finally got tuned and added a bunch of piercemotorsports braces. I only used the OTS tunes for a week or so before getting tuned by Tune+.

>>15567587
yeah i've read intakes do shit for anything. I really just got a panel filter for slightly more turbo noise

Considering the Golf R or Scirocco R. Currently leaning towards the Scirocco, but still uncertain about transmission. I'm very hesitant about DSG but I've heard good things. Any one able to chip in with DSG experience? Is it basically like driving a clutch-less manual or what?

>>15567683
>clutch-less manual

looks like the marketing teams got you good.

just get a real manual. Yeah, the 0-60 isn't as fast, but it's a much better driving experience

(although I haven't driven either of the cars you are debating)

>>15567699'

>looks like the marketing teams got you good.

It would seem so. I just know that regardless of which trans I get, I will be second guessing my final choice for eternity. Fug.

Best hot hatch for <$8000?
Looking at the MkV GTI or the turbo'd Cooper S right now.

>>15568022
You might be able to get a Mk IV Golf R32 for that price if you do some hunting.

>>15568022
>>15569781
Also some high miles Mazdaspeed3s are around that price too.

How easy are wind deflectors to install? Got a set for my ST, bit don't want to damage the glass desu

>>15569823
but they do not touch the glass unless you do it wrong

>>15569823
Seems like they just slide in and then you let them sit for 12 hours.

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sup guys, I got an 02 focus svt earlier this week. its got 75k miles and the previous owner did too many mods. did I do alright?

>>15570128
Looks sweet man.

>>15570140
its thrown a CEL but i havent checked the codes yet. my guess is that the riming belt was replaced DIY and that one vtec-like system is off or something like that..
and while I really dislike teh bodykit and plan to get oem parts, I don't dislike the wheels. I would have preferred to have the 5 spoke SVT rims though.

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My 89 Toyota Starlet Turbo

>>15570368
thats cool.

would a first gen 300zx count as a hatchback?

>>15570368
beautiful

>>15570368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8c5wmeOL9o

hey, I'm the one that had the 02 focus a few posts ago. any of you have a similar setup? is it possible to set up the steering wheel controls with any stereo? I've never had those controls before..

>>15566866

>see all these nice hot hatches I can afford
>then look at the insurance

Fuck.

>>15571663
insurance on my 2016 FiST is only ~$150 more per year than I was paying for my '05 civic though.

>>15571820

>$

UK m8 and I'm 21 - can't get insured for anything with turbo.

>>15571950
UK insurance for a FiST is £480ish, 25, 4years ncb

Just need to stick it out until old age kicks in desu

>>15571975

Yeah guess I'll have to tow the 1.6L line until then eh.

>>15571820
>FiST

How much was it for rent when your dad kicked you out?

>>15572115
are you salty you can't afford a new car or something? Not sure what you're implying

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2014 Moosetang GT owner here. Want to get a dog soon, but I can't carry a dog around in a Mustang. Should I get a Golf R?

>>15573404
Do you want to pay 37k for a Golf? You might want to try a Focus ST as well.

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The king has arrived

test drove the gti today. it's way faster than i expected, but i'll be damned if that car is boring. comfy ass interior, quiet, hardly any vibration.

there's a huge difference between being fast and feeling fast. the gti is fast, the FiST feels fast.

not sure what else to look at <$20k here in the US.

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>>15573798

Depends. When looking at hot hatches, I drove them all. I chose the GTI for the reasons you mentioned. I didn't want a car that screamed "teenager". I wanted a car that was fun, fast, and comfortable. The GTI fit that bill.

>>15573836
right, fun is subjective. to me, caring what people think about my choice of car is a non issue. making concessions in my preference of a car because of what other people think? fuck that.

>>15573764
A good friend of mine is about to do an E85 tune on his speed3, which should be good for over 400hp

>I think this will be the car that kills him

>>15573854


All I can say is that priorities change throughout one's lifetime. I'm at a place where it wouldn't do to roll up in a slammed FOST or FIST.

>>15573836
> I didn't want a car that screamed "teenager"
That's funny, because in Germany, the Golf GTi is the cliché choice for teenagers.

>>15573965

That may be. In Germany. Not so much here in the states.

>>15567683
Scirocco is FWD

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New colors for the 2017 Fiestas, pretty sure this is going to be the last model year before the refresh occurs. Kona Blue is gone and they brought a silver option back.

Also supposed to come with Apple Car Play or Android Auto now.

My 2015 GTI Key stopped blinking red, Changed battery, and the remote still won't work it seems like they key isn't turning on anymore or something.... Wat do? Tried googling but found no info.

>>15575657
Did you get it wet? Do you have a spare? Usually there's a key in the remote that can still start the car if you have to. Also probably call your/a dealership.

>>15566866
Are Golf R easy to maintain?

>>15575038
You just destroyed my dream. I always thought they used the same drive train from Golf Rs. Fuck you VW.

>>15575692
Why would you want a VAG shitbox?

>>15575680
I'm pretty sure they are a Haldex-based AWD system. Though the 2nd gens aren't supposed to be as bad apparently.

>>15575779
he is a masochist

>>15575672
No and no, I can still start the vehicle with the key using the touch panel or something. And yeah I'm away from home, so I need to wait till I get back to my state to do that I would think.

>>15575796
>VAG """"""""electronics"""""""""

>>15575535
so all they have is orange, white, silver, grey, and black? Damn.

The red and blue looked good though

>>15567349 here

accessport coming today. Should I install stage 1 OTS map before the filter/RMM are installed?

>>15575825
Yeah they've switched the colors and paints up pretty heavily every year but the first two. The 14s and 15s have a bass-boat like metallic flake in their paints that they dropped for the 16s. I'm interested to see the model refresh.

I wish they still made decent 3-door hatches. I don't want a Vee Dubbyah.

Would be great if they shit out another EG/EK style hatch, or a 3-door Focus/Fiesta.

>>15575850
The order of operations doesn't really matter, you'll definitely notice an improvement with the RMM though.

>>15575863
ok cool. I probably won't get the RMM on for a few weeks

tfw live in apartment and need to bum a garage to work on car from someone else

>>15575911
That's a job you could do in the parking lot with jack stands to be honest, with little experience it still shouldn't take longer than an hour.

>>15575925
I guess I could go to the target/wal-mart parking lot and do it there if it's quick. Would I only need 2 jack stands? I don't have a ton of room where I live to store extra stuff

>>15576002
You might be better off waiting, though if I recall, AutoZone lets you borrow tools for free, so you might be able to do it in their parking lot and borrow their tools.

http://www.autozone.com/landing/page.jsp?name=loan-a-tool

Are cars like the Celica and Integra considered "hot hatches"

I mean, they look like coupes but they do have a hatch.

>>15576036
I think those are considered lift backs technically.

can anyone tell me a hot hatch that is below 10k and has enough space to carry my double bass? preferably AWD or RWD

>>15577050
R32
Yeah idk about anything else

>>15577050
You probably want a V70R if you can find one. Not a hatch but more in line with what you might need.

is this a good idea
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/5684740254.html

>>15575680
What gen r?

>>15577171

As a weekend runabout, maybe. I'd be wary of any 24 year old car being a DD, though.

>>15577171
Damn that's fresh. 130k too. I doubt you'll ever find a cleaner one

>>15577568
The new one.

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New car. Taking it to mt first car meet tonight. It's the only running 20th edition within 250 miles. Talk the city as far as enthusiasts are concerned.

I'd have a nicer pic but it's 4.75mb and I'm not gonna go through compression on a phone it bullshit.

>>15578213
love that jazz blue and aristos. looks clean, have fun at your meet

Pepsifag confirms
FWD can never be fun and can never be fast

>>15566866
Thinking of getting mazda 3 used 2011 or 12. Whats best trim?

unless you guys think theres a hatch that absolutely blows it out the water in every category

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Hey guys

>>15578251
America has no good hot hatches of the 80s-90s
Fuck you

>>15578260
well, there's the dodge GLH and GLH turbo. those were from the 80s.

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>>15566866
mine is still broken
we are having trouble getting the fuel ratio to be right.

one day its lean, the next rich

>>15578266
cutie

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>>15578273
don't feel bad, anon. I paid too much for a half-rusted 84 rabbit GTI and paid for a new windshield and new fabricated frame that goes underneath the windshield. engine runs fine but it has a dead battery from sitting so long now. the underbody is pretty rusty though and instead of spending money to fix it, I got that blue focus svt I posted here a few days ago.

want to buy a vw?

i'll put my k swapped fit against any pussy with a gti

>tfw miami
>love sub compact but practical but also good performing vehicles

Man I hate this market but I love hatchbacks and tiny pick ups so much

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>>15578305

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Traded a mustang for this and regret nothing.

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>>15578347

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>>15578397

>>15575850 again here

installed the 91 OTS map (93 is very rare in my state) and wow, the car sure wakes up. Power feels much more even across the power band, and you really notice that increased amount of torque.

>>15577568
I don't know what you mean by 'easy', but like most other VWs, as long as you don't skip service and generally don't abuse the car too much, there shouldn't be a problem. DSG service can be pricey. Haldex is every 30k for $150, so that's eh.

>>15578778
Can you find E85 near you? There were some recent posts about running 91 E25 on the OTS maps and getting some serious gains (+8whp/+30tq over California 91). Also, you won't believe the difference the motor mount makes.

fiat 500 abarth, single owner, 67k miles bing sold at dealership 10k burgerbucks. take it or leave it?

>>15579206
Meant for >>15577845

Anyone have a vw r32? Mkiv or mkv

>>15579595
pls respond /o/

>>15579878
Leave it. Theres better hatches.

>>15567683
I daily a DSG mk5 Golf GTI and at first I was hesitant. You can drive it as a conventional automatic with a sport setting or in manual mode with control on shifts. In manual mode it will shift up rather than bashing the limiter but DSG boxes can be remapped to stop this.

IMO the DSG offers the benefits of an Auto and Manual with fewer downsides.

My personal choice would be the Golf R over the Scirocco.

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haters gonna hate but I unironically love yaris's

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>>15580927
r8

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>>15580808
New ones looked pretty good desu

>>15579585
I can but it'd be ~15 minutes out of the way each time I wanted gas, and that's one of only ~15 stations in my metro area of 2.5 million, so if I'm not nearby and need gas then I'd be mixing back in 91. I'm not really into the idea of adding inconvenience to my life, so I was just planning to stick to what I can get.

>>15582087
Not something you always have to run, but the car is pretty sleepy on 91 Octane still. If you ever feel inspired and have a half tank or less, just put in 2.5-3 gallons of E85 and top off the rest with 91. It's not something you always have to run either, you'd be fine filling up with regular 91 at any time after adding in the ethanol.

You'll definitely notice some more power and doesn't have any negative effects on the vehicle (other than slightly worse gas mileage).

>>15580080
so what better choices for hot hatches do i have around the $10,000 in US? All I've seen is the MK6 GTI with ~100,000 miles. Having driven the GTI, I didn't really like how boring it felt. Sure its fast, but to me it lacks character like the abarth or fist. having said that,the fist would be a nice option but the cheapest i've seen them for is ~$15k, which is 50% more than what i was looking to spend.

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Always see alot of VW's in these but never any LCR's?

>>15578213
>I'm not gonna go through compression on a phone it bullshit.
download Photo Resizer and set a custom size

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>>15579595
>>15579878
>>15582272
need some help here /o/

>tfw want a stage 3+ Golf R so bad
>don't want to void warranty in the process
>or blow up the engine because a thrown rod

Why drive these pieces of shit?

>>15582453
They sound like sex on wheels but I can't imagine actually driving one of them for any extended period of time. I'd rent one for a week on vacation thats it desu

hey, does anyone know if I can remove the top timing belt cover on my focus svt? I have a chilton manual now and it seems like there isn't a quick way to just CHECK if the timing belt is newer or an old & busted, ready to break piece of shit

>>15582471
why do people drive shitty trucks for a living?

>>15582103
so the FiST can run a bit of E85 without any tuning/hardware changes?

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>>15578299
i paid $200
are you an idiot?

it ran like shit because it needed a valve job.
now it runs a bit better but doesnt pull like it should

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>>15582916
but yeah, there is no rust in the floorpan of mine.

i ended up having the tranny rebuilt with a diesel 5th gear.

oh my god the stock gearing of these cars sucks balls.

>>15582913
Not straight E85, but it sees some nice power gains over 91 when you blend in a few gallons for a e25 mix or so.

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Most underrated hot hatch, anyone?

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contribootin

>>15573836
>those fucking rims
Jesus no.

2017 Civic Hatch in 1.5 T + 6 speed manual please.

>>15583359
aren't those stock?

>>15583459
Yup, and it doesn't make them any less disgusting.

>>15583380
1.8T and better suspension maybe. the Fiesta is 1.6 so I can't see them going below that if they want to compete, plus the civic is a bigger car.

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>the 2016 civic turbos are only offered in CVT

car newb here

is there more than just ford in this market for all of NA? as far as stock models go

>>15583600
Honda has a few fun models, I think.
Hyundai has the Veloster Turbo, but that's pretty mediocre compared to its competition.

And there's always
>VAG

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>no Mazdaspeed vehicles planned

Fuck my life, not even Mazda cares about fun anymore

>>15583613
are used volks cheaper post-scandal?

colleague of mine rented a brand new jetta literally one week before the news came out and says that people get his car for like 80 bucks less a month now. poor guy

>>15583600
GTI, veloster turbo, chevy spark 2LT (lol), used mazdaspeed3s, used WRX hatches (why did they kill the hatch ;_;)

maybe missed a few others.

>>15583510
>Tfw no Civic EV
>Tfw all we get is the Clarity with it's trying-hard-to-be-modern styling

Fuck your perceived futurism, Honda. I want a god damn electric Civic.

>>15583632
VWs should be cheaper than before, even though the scandal never affected the GTIs (or any of the non-diesel versions for that matter).

>>15583649
hm, thanks for the tips. fiesta it is. hopefully ST if I can afford it.

>>15583638
also forgot the mini cooper, though I think they are overpriced for what you get

>>15583669
a completely base model ST can be had for around 20k new after tax. Add 2-2.5k for recaro seats. Used FiSTs are harder to come by, and in my area always listed overpriced

>>15583693
>>15583693
I'm going to sound like a clueless cunt, but is this an irresponsible choice for a first car? or should I get something slow and easy to handle first?

>>15583711
how old are you? It's a 200HP FWD car which means it's very easy to handle. Mustangs are much more dangerous. It's even slower from 0-60 than a few small SUVs out there.

If you're a dumb teenager you'll probably do dumb things whether in a fiesta ST or a 10 year old civic.

>>15583748
I'm 24 with a decent paying job. Never felt the need to own a car because I could bike to work and shit. I'm pretty sure I can afford a new Fiesta ST if I stick to the 20% rule but it's hard to justify spending that much. Insurance costs shouldn't fuck me over too hard, which is a plus.

also, why the recaro seats? are the stock ones so terrible that they have to be replaced?

>>15583791
The Recaro seats are worth their price, that's really all there is to it. They're genuinely 2k better.

>>15583791
the stock seats are pretty bad. The recaros are pretty godlike. Honestly, some of the best seats this side of $40k. You'll have to sit in them yourself to see. They hug pretty tight and keep you in place which I enjoy while driving, but if you're a bigger guy they may be too small foryou. That option also includes heated seats which is nice for the winter

>>15583823
I can get behind that. the kind of luxury you'd never consider until you tried it. then you can't do without. perhaps it's for the best if I stay away.

>but if you're a bigger guy they may be too small foryou.
although it doesn't look like I have a choice

>>15583838
test drive first senpai

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>>15580927
Best vw ever made

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postan muh shitbox

>>15583711
Insurance on the Fiesta is pretty cheap, since they see it as 'just a Fiesta' and not some hyped-up version. Stock you should have no issues at all, and quite a bit of fun.

If you need any tips for negotiating or questions about a price feel free to ask here, will try to help or give insight where I can.