after which year of production can Volvo cars be considered trash?

>>15556842
The year after they stopped selling the B8444S option.

>>15556842
After about 90-95

>>15556842

'98 but there is leftovers of their spirit even today.

>>15556842
There's several points you could find:
>The year they stopped making RWD cars
>The year they stopped making the V8
>The year they stopped making the turbo 5 cylinder
>The year they stopped making the C30

>>15557495
Also, the year they bought DAF.

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>>15556842
Well they're still racing these beauties.
>>15556854
It'll be a sad day.

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>>15556842
>trash

>>15556842
2013. Every car had some redeeming feature until then. Now everything is shitty modern car design except the XC90 but it's bad because it only has a 4-cylinder.

>>15557528


vagina car
urban "suv"s are for women and small dicks

>>15557625
S90 and V90 look good as well.
However, those FWD 4cyls are really disappointing - although the T8 is reasonably good. I wonder how it's handle the S90, the XC90 T8 was a bit heavy.

>>15556842
When T# badge stopped meaning you had a turbo engine with whatever number of cylinders the badge indicated
T5 meant 5 cylinders and a turbo
T6 meant 6 cylinders and a turbo

now T5, T6, T8 are all trim levels
The T8s have 4 bangers now, its a fucking shame

>>15556842

'98 or so. Cars built till the end of that year have 500k miles in them, easy. The build quality took a dive after that.

>>15556927
But muh 850T-5/R

>>15557751
my 02 is fine. only thing that broke was a coil pack. 120k miles
2.4t

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>>15557495
The death of the T5 was a complete betrayal

When it became chinese.
Be volvo, put the same fucking 4 cylinder engine inn all cars. Call it t5, t6 because of ecu tuned hp levels. Why not just buy the cheapest option and tune the fuck out of it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVzsFJtE26w

round about this time

>>15558397
The new XC90 uses both turbo and supercharger in the T6 and T8

>>15558405
>S40
Looks like shit
>S40 Classic
Wow, what a looker.
I can't tell what they changed but the different rims and whatnot changed the look of the car tremendously.

>>15558397
Chinese has nothing to do with it. The company is as Swedish as ever. It's just bankrolled by the Chinese.

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>1st gen XC90
for a 50000€ "luxury" car this thing surely lacks some quality

but I hear most of the 1999-2004 Volvo cars are to avoid

haven't driven a later one myself

>>15558768
The latest ones are awesome. Dynamically, they're turds, but they're comfy as fuck to be in - and the T8 is no slouch.

>>15558453
>called a T6/8
>dont use a turbocharged I/V6 or a V8
>Uses a Twincharged I4

Call it a fucking TS4 then, dont fucking get me exited for nothing
>but anon, there is no way a V8 would fit there
Volvo used to offer the S80 with a V8 in the same platform with the same engine bay as the same year C30, dont come with excuse that the B8444S could not fit in the new XC90 T8

>>15558949
I work at a Volvo dealership, theres plenty room for a V8, I completely agree with you, they should start making big and good engines again.

>>15556842
t. Poorfag defensive about not being able to afford a car made this century.

>>15558975
You just described 90% of /o/

Why do you think they call all new cars "pigfat" or "shitty modern design"

It's because they can't afford them.

Literally sour grapes

>>15557792

Except 120k is normal. Lots of cars will reach 200-250k on their original drivetrain, without major repairs. Old Volvos are completely capable of reaching reaching 500,000 miles without significant repairs or replacements. And that just disappeared after '98

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>>15559415
i fully expect it to.
i just changed the tranny oil.
car is running superb

>>15556842
I still enjoy them, I just hope we get more than a 4 cylinder eventually. The s60 polestar seems good and I find the triplet turbo 4 interesting, but can we get a i5 or i/v6 in something?

Why doesn't Volvo just put a T6 in everything?

>>15556927
This, 95 is the cutoff
That being said the 850 is still a good car

>>15556842

1987

>>15556842
1927
:^)