Is this a good car for a college student living out on his own?

insurance and gas will be higher than some generic 4cyl sedan, probably not a huge issue.

Cargo space.

Which I wouldn't be worried about at all if you were single, but you have a gf. Two thirds of the cargo space is the passenger seat.

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>>15553675
>tl;dr Is there a good reason to NOT buy one of these?
storage space.

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>>15553704
For that very same reason though, I will suggest finding a Pontiac Fiero. Much more storage space. plus its cheaper, easier to find, has more aftermarket, easier to work on, and arguably just as safe and reliable.

>>15553704
There are some compartments behind the seats which can hold, at most, a long (but thin) duffle bag.

You can get a rack on top of engine cover if you need a bit of extra luggage.

>>15553691
She doesnt like to ride passenger in manual cars due to really bad motion sickness, which saddens me, because we cant have fun in a car together, but oh well

She doesnt give a shit what i buy. Her only request is that its not a half-completed project car or a money pit, which i think is reasonable right now
>>15553721
>easier to work on, and arguably just as safe and reliable.
Not trying to sound dicking but could you provide citation for that?
We're talking about a corolla engine here
>>15553704
The passenger seat and cubby can fit everything i'd need to put in the car. Our other car is a wagon so thats our hauling bitch.

>>15553721
Fiero's were shit until the 1987-1988 model years. Unless you want the engine space to swap in a decent V6, the AW11 is all around a better car.

>>15553675
Yes it's fine. If you need to move or haul anything big you can borrow or rent a truck.

>>15553731
>gf has a car

I guess I missed the bit where you were living alone.

Yeah, it's fine. Would even be good for winter with a hardtop and Blizzaks.

>>15553731
While I usually feel autos have no place on such a vehicle, the "auto" in the MR-S is not much more than an automated manual. Not a typical slushbox.

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>>15553731
The 1ZZ-FE in the MRz/Corolla was known for oil burning issues. The 2.5L Iron Duke in the Fiero was bulletproof since it was 1 cylinder bank of a Pontiac V8.
As for safety and ease of working on it, you only need look at the Fiero chassis. The steel spaceframe was way overbuilt making it the safest non-airbag car you can buy. And working on it is easier. Due to the steel spaceframe, the Fiero's body panels are all plastic and removable which gets them out of the way. Everything is easily accessible

>>15553736
With the Fiero's aftermarket, year doesn't matter. ANY problem you have with it has an aftermarket solution. There's even better/more modern looking dashboards and door panels available.
The AW11 was louder, more cramped, less comfortable, and MUCH less forgiving to drive. Being forgiving is a trait you WANT in a 'baby's first MR car". So no. The AW11 is not an ALL-AROUND better car. It's more hardcore for sure, but unless you find a supercharged model, the Fiero is faster. and multiple comparisons had the Fiero coming out on top simply because it was easier to live with day in and day out.

>>15553786
>MRz/Corolla
MR2/Corolla

>>15553755
>I guess I missed the bit where you were living alone.
I said i was living out on my own, meaning not at home. Within the next 5 words I mentioned I had a girlfriend.
>>15553779
Well I mentioned that because of >>15553691 which mentioned gf+cargo space.

I mention her dislike of manual cars because it means ill basically never have a passenger
>>15553786
Not gonna lie I love being spoonfed critical information, so thanks. Ill definitely do some more research into fieros.
My only concern us finding one thats been garage kept. Ive owned older cars, both garage kept and not. Id rather not deal with a car that old if its been sitting through New England seasonal weather its entire life

>>15553704
wew
does the aw11 has more storage space?

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>>15553817
Yes. The AW11's storage space is similar to the Fiero's.

>>15553817
aw11 has two 'trunks' sort of, the back one is about the size of a new camaros trunk, and the front is about the size of the MRS trunk posted
aw11 is much better for storage space and being a daily driver, minus the fact its 20 years older than the mrs

>>15553786
I'll concede on some points and I'm too lazy to argue to the rest when I'm typing on my phone. But

>louder

Believe an owner, the 4A-GE is not an engine noise you get tired of.

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>>15553675
You're a spoiled fucking brat. Take your MONEY out of here shitstain

>>15553861
>Wants to buy a sub-$10k 15 year old car
>Somehow he's spoiled

>>15553861
>4000 dollar car
>MONEY
kill yourself retard?

>>15553861
>poor mans Lotus
>spoiled

How fucking poor can you be? Do you drive a rusted out base model Civic shitbox?

>>15553844
>Believe an owner, the 4A-GE is not an engine noise you get tired of.
To be fair, the Fiero's V6 makes a glorious sound as well. The 2.8L V6 has a 60* V block and a somewhat awkward firing order (1-2-3-4-5-6).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoChoFgS-b4

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>>15553675

Yes, I want one myself so badly but try to get the 2003+ models, the earlier ones had emissions equipment like pre cats that would break off and get sucked back into the engine.

>>15553830
>>15553833
Whoa, I knew it still had a rear trunk but thats massive for a sports car so small. Don't make them like they use to I guess

>>15553905
in my experience its useless for groceries because it gets somewhat hot in there but its great for a small suitcase or two

I'm curious. Does or has anyone here daily driven an mr2 of any gen, or a fiero?
Tell me your midship experience

>>15553883

Jesus christ. Fuck no.

>>15553961
there's always the LQ1, a 200-215 HP 3.4L DOHC V6. Drops right into the Fiero and uses the same mounts as the 2.8L.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCyGSpJCOKI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRoJ3VIHm5U

>>15553929
I daily drove a Boxster for a while, but that car is made to be more practical and comfortable than an MR2 or Fiero

Still pretty sweet how the car corners flat

>>15553974
>>15553883
>>15553786
>>15553721

Stop trying to shill your piece of shit car, dude.

>>15553866
>>15553868
>>15553878

I wish I had mommy and daddy money to buy a third gen mr2 in college

>>15554017
Get a job you lazy fuck, any motivated college student with a sense of time management can afford a $4000 car

>>15554017

>Poor neet so buttmad that he can't afford a 5k car.

Either lazy or stupid, probably both.

>>15554037
>>15554040
Some people have to pay for other things assholes.
I had to get a cheap fiero 4 cyl. And you know what? I beat spoiled brats in zzw30s down at the races.

Skill > car.

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>>15554015
>can't come up with an argument against it
>hurr stop shilling your bad car
>it's a bad car because I say so.

>>15554040
>>15554037

>$4,000
>during college

Holy fuck the jobs I ran during college were just enough to cover the rent and services - I wasn't making enough until I got a proper job after college for the likes of that.

>>15554049

Oh god, you're that pathetic poorfag in this thread shilling his piece of shit fiero.

>I beat spoiled brats in zzw30s down at the races.

>Implying some poorfag autist in his shitbox was even relevant enough to notice, much less race.

>>15554049
>>15554055
I was renting an apartment in downtown Ottawa and paying tuition and bought a Boxster in my second year during undergrad

An MR2 is not an expensive car in the slightest to own and run

>>15554063
No I'm not that's a different guy who shills fieros.
>>15554068
Spoiled brat legitamately has no idea how the other half lives

It's not your fault

>>15554053

>American/unreliable piece of shit
>Looks like shit
>No racing heritage
>No aftermarket

Really, you're comparing this to an MRS?

I'll wait for you to come up with more things to fight that crippling buyer's remorse you're struggling with.
>
>

>>15554075
>Made money myself
>"Must be spoiled!"

>>15554080
>lived in downtown Ottawa
Uh huh..

>>15554053
>suspension from the chevette
don't get anybody started on the fiero

>>15554078
I love how hypocritical /o/ is about loving underdog cara

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>tfw left the thread to walk my dog and this is what i come back to

>>15553929
I daily a 1986 AW11 with manual everything. Winter hasn't begun, but it's been perfectly fine for summer. Manual locks, lack of cupholders, and a small gas tank are minor inconveniences. One thing I'm definitely going to have to deal with is getting my tires shipped around, since I can't carry them.

I can't put about 3 duffle bags, 2 suitcases, and 4 backpacks in it. That's with the spare tire but no passenger.

>>15554088
>Canada
As long as it's not Toronto it's pretty cheap, especially with a roommate

Subsidized education is pretty nice too

>>15554068

What fucking job did you manage to snag that you could afford a fucking Boxster? (assuming you weren't leasing)

>>15554095

Just because you bought this piece of shit, it does not mean it's an "Underdog" car

>>15554101
It's not hard to find an earlier Boxster for under $10k

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>>15554078
>I have never researched any of this shit, the post
The Fiero competed, quite successfully in IMSA racing, and has aftermarket support to make a Honda Civic blush

>>15554115

I was barely making $1k per month part time during college, so again;
>>15554101

I went to college with 0 funds, had to make my own.

>>15554122
How reliable is a fiero to someone who is dumb and poor who can't wrench himself

Both engine options
There's a 1986 one for $1600 locally. 110k miles

>>15554127
I set up servers for small businesses and managed them, including an overhaul at one place where I replaced 20 Pentium 4 machines with thin clients and connected them to virtual machines on a VM ware cluster
That shit had me driving between Ottawa and Toronto ever week

>>15554144

>server job for businesses in college

Jesus Canada sounds nice.

I found a shitty waiting job which I was happy enough to get.

>>15554144
Wow I wish I was spoiled enough to get a set up like that

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>>15553675
if you can live with 2 seat corolla roadster then buy it senpai

>>15554153

Maybe if you got off your fatass and did some leg work, you could actually get a gig like this.

>>15554157
Uh huh. Sure buddy

>>15554153
Why not actually leave your mom's basement and make connections?

>>15554175

Not him - but I made a lot of connections during college but they didn't come to much until after college when I had acquired experience with quals.

>>15554182
Better than being a whiny poorfag on /o/

>>15554202

>Better than being a whiny poorfag on /o/ shilling fieros and being buttmad.

Fixed.

>>15554136
They're fairly reliable. The Iron Duke 4 cylinder was known for being unkillable, though slow.
The V6 was a lot faster. While people will argue day and night over the V6 model's reliability, I will point out this: That V6 and variants based on it, was used, reliably, in GM cars from 1979 until 2011. The last car to use them was the 2011 Chevrolet Impala which had a 3.5L and a 3.9L variants.

>>15554202

I was a poorfag during college - just surprising as I wish I had that much back then.

Now? No I have a Focus ST myself unless that is still 'poorfag'.

>>15554136
I would go for it, but make sure it's been properly maintained.

>>15554214
Went on a quick dive on the fiero forums, they pretty much mirror this post

>>15554223
Nah you aren't poor unless you're struggling to make payments

>>15553675
I moved alot in college. thats the only reason i wouldnt

Does the Mister 2 Spyder have any of those factory baggage available? I find those are nice when you have a car this lacking for space.

>>15554357
I'd never expect anyone to read the entire thread but >>15553731

>>15554479
http://www.boot-bag.com/

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>>15554508
>putting a bag on top of the vents that feed air to the engine
Kill yourself you fucking moron.

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>>15554540
put it on the front then

>>15554540
Haha what
Are you high

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>>15554540

I've been thinking about this car recently too, but I'm a britbong who will no doubt get FUCKED on insurance

>>15554540
Anon do you know what those side intakes do?

>>15554540
nigga you stupid

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>>15553929
I daily my sw20 turbo and it's really not bad. Super comfy cabin and the trunk is plenty spacious for groceries and stuff, though it does get a little warm.

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>>15553721

>2.8L V6
>makes less power than a 4AGE

also engine fires and pissing oil all over the place, and don't get me started on the gutless pos iron duke

>>15553861
>>15554017
Fuck off, poorfags.

>>15553861
There's this thing called financing, you pay in installments with interest. It's how the entire rest of the world pays for cars they didn't get off criaglist

>>15555643
>a 2.8L makes less than 115hp

I know this is smog-era GM, but I still don't believe you

>>15553721
>fieros
>good
>why can't I stop buying them!?
Lol I fucking love this meme.

>>15553878
Ignore him. It's probably a mentally ill tranny from /mtfg/.

>>15555643
Engine fire is meme tier. As mentioned in other posts there are aftermarket parts to correct that in '84's (the ONLY year to have that issue).

Get the fuck outta here.

>>15553675
I'll happily second taking a strong look at the Fiero. Just try to get a '88, especially the Formula or GT trim. Be the best setup for having fun without investing in mods.

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>>15555643
>>15555732
The 2.8L in the Fiero made 140 HP. WTF are you on?

And the engine fires were only on early build 1984 4 cylinder cars.
MR2s are ALSO known for engine fires.

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>>15554153

Armchair psychoanalysis guys are you ready

When you post about how hard your parents worked and show other people the fruits of their labor, including your success, it makes those with lazy, embarrassing parents angry. They view a reminder of their lower position in life as a personal attack on them, which is laughable because it wasn't their fault they were poor anyways, it was simply their parents' laziness.

>>15555713
Financing is for cucks

>>15555855
But I'm poor due to bad luck, my parents weren't lazy at all. They just died

>>15555464
> stock wheels
anon pls

>>15553675
insurance is a big issue for anyone under 25 and having a 2 door coupe is not gonna help
it's also a money drain, that engine ain't making unicorns without a turbo
cargo space is especially concerning if you have any other hobbies other than cars
I can not for the life of me stick a surf board anywhere in a coupe with my GF on the passenger seat
there is also downsides of a convertible that you just have to deal with

all the problems above can easily be looked over or just fixed with a lot of money
and if you can afford all that, it's probably not a bad idea to have 2 cars as well

>>15553929
Before the exhaust ruptured and caused everything to go to shit I dailyd a 3rd Gen and I have to say that I really don't enjoy it all that much, like I love the car and the whole line it's a part of but the first and second gens are just so much better
Mayhew it's because mine has a Pontiac engine in it but I'm going to put a v6 in it when I find one in decent shape

>>15555827
> MR2s are ALSO known for engine fires.

i've never heard of this

>>15555883
don't you have bulls to be prepping right now

>>15555887
http://www.mr2.com/forums/threads/38451-mr2-s-fires-ground-potential-what-you-NEED-to-be-doing-to-your-car-right-now

>>15555887
That's because unlike Pontiac ,Toyota doesn't address this shit

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>>15555883
>Mayhew it's because mine has a Pontiac engine
wut.

>>15555982
You said engine fire, not electrical fire

>>15554101
Not him but boxsters are cheap as fuck(for a porsche sports car) on craigslist. You can find them for $10k with around 100k miles

Hey i saw talk about fieros

i own an 87 gt. got it for 3 grand (canadian). good car for that price.

however if youre cross shopping with mrs, the only one i would consider is the 88gt. The 88 has SIGNIFICANT suspension upgrades.

Wouldn't get anything pre 87 ever. No 5 speed, no GT with sails.

>>15556097
the GT with sails became available in mid-1986, around the same time a 5 speed was made available.

>>15556053

>$10k

I never even had $1k available in college - all my money went to rent and services.

>>15553675
If you buy one get rid of the catalytic convertor, and the honey comb. Then be prepared to pay out the ass if your under 25. Why? It's a 2 door convertible. Are you paying with cash or financing

>>15555732
don't watch the smog era mustang v6 then

>>15557695
I know about the precat issues.
I'll be paying cash up front.
Ideally I'll be hunting for a lower mileage 03+

>>15553731
>she doesnt give a shit what i buy
You're damned fucking right she doesn't, she's your gf not your fucking mom.

Can't believe you fucking mongs actually even entertain the opinions of something as temporary and vapid as a fucking GIRLFRIEND. Not even your wife, but just the bitch you're fucking at the moment. Jesus what a bunch of cucks.

>>15557799
Are you retarded?
Are you saying I'm a cuckold because I think a piece of shit car would just cause problems, and my girlfriend agrees with me?

>>15553675
>gf
>not wanting something you can take camping and fug in the woods
i guess. but as a college student id be more inclined to buy the most common shitbox available because mechanics like working on them. sure sure im completely sure that you'll be able to fit an engine crane in your dorm room or the college will allow you to work on it in the parking lot.

>>15557911
No no no, cucklord. You said she didn't care as long as it wasn't a project, etc.

That doesn't translate to, "I think it would cause problems" that is more along the lines of "I'm so pussy whipped that I can't have a project car because muh gf won't like it :(((".

You shouldn't give a fuck what she thinks is the point, she's just some bitch passing through. You putting any importance on her opinion in regards to what you spend YOUR money on makes you a fucking bitch tier cuck jedi master.

>>15557934
Well in that case I should have been more clear. Im buying whatever the fuck I want because its my car, and her opinion on the matter is irrelevant.
Doesnt change the fact that I cant afford a project car or a piece of shit at this point. I need a car that is reliable. Thats a fact, and its one that we both agree on. I dont know why this idea of consensus between two people makes a man a cuck, even if its based on facts
>>15557925
As ive said like 3 times ITT, she owns a wagon (which we have fucked in)

>>15558100
>having sex with gf
>having sex in college
Gross

>>15558381
Take a shower, hit the weights, have sex

>>15558515
No thanks

>>15558532
disgusting NEET faggot
>>>/r9k/

>>15558539
But I'm not NEET and don't fit in at /r9k/ at all

>>15558559
I don't care, if you refuse to better yourself and prefer to wallow in your disgusting filth, you need to go

>>>/r9k/

>>15558568
What are you even talking about

>>15558586
I said >>15558515 then you said >>15558532
This means you refuse to take a shower, hit the weights, and/or have sex
Doing these things would definitely be an improvement in your situation considering you think having sex in college is disgusting

>>15558599
But it is? And I already do those things. But having sex for the sake of it is dumb and so is putting it on a pedestal

>>15558603
No one mentioned putting it on a pedestal, simply having sex isn't putting on a pedestal
>but having sex for the sake of it is dumb
You know how I know your a virgin?
>because it is? and I already do those things
That's how

>>15558621
I don't really understand how you think my life needs improving or why being a virgin is bad.

Sounds like you are putting it on a pedestal

>>15558632
You know it, stay a virgin, become a wizard, never pass on your genes, you'd be doing the world a favor

>>15558642
What's your problem here

>>15558647
You tough guy

>>15553675

>>Is this a good car for a college student living out on his own?

No! Why would you want to live out of a convertible!? That's a terrible idea! Get a meme van or bus instead.

>>I have a girlfriend but no kids or friends since we just moved to a new state. Ive done an exhaustive amount of research into these cars, including their older counterparts and competitors, and they're everything I want and need.

Is your girlfriend OK with living out of a convertible? I figure she would have talked you out of it, but modern bimbs are dumb enough that they'd totally go for it.

>>tl;dr Is there a good reason to NOT buy one of these?

I change my mind. Live out of it with your arm candy, and YouTube you two being autistic about it.

It can be like a parody of those obnoxious white couples blogging their boring van life, only it will be funny and entertaining.

>>15558655
Why

>>15558661
Don't need a reason

>>15558659

Hey buddy you just blow in from stupid town

>>15558664
Why

>>15558670
Are you fucking blind or stupid

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>>15558666

Memes, breh. Memes.

Straight memeing.

>>15558674
Both always.

>>15558666
quality post

>>15558100
I bet you ask for permission beforw lifring the toilet seat, fucking cuckfag.

>>15553731
You just suck at shifting or are driving like a jackass

>>15560852
Yeah no, you faggot. I think I would know better than you. I shift fine, and I drive like a responsible adult. She has IBS so she stuggles with car sickness worse than most.
>>15560792
here is your reply