Are there any new cars that don't suck

>>15536770
No shitty modern car design is everywhere.

>>15536770
^^^
Truth, buy a cool used car

>>15536770
Miata
Camaro
86
Focus ST

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First one in a while.

>>15536914
the no grille looks fucking ugly. even if it's useless to have it there I'd rather it still be there.

>>15536919
No grill designs really need a step up, the front of Tesla's are fuckin ugly.

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>>15536835
but the focus interior
horrible

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>>15536933
I don't see why they didn't just steal the front end from a classic 911

>>15536950
probably trademarked

>>15536950
because Tesla wants a useful trunk under the hood.

not a place for a spare tire and your man purse, like the porsche.

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J U S T
U
S
T

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>>15536914
what could have been

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>>15536944
>this is considered a horrible interior
here you go m8, a perfect console just for you.

>>15536987
>yfw the elr is actually a super comfy decently fun upscale volt that depreciated so hard you can get a decent one for 30k now

>>15536944
>that seat angle

Dear god what the fuck

>>15536976
>Needing both a full size trunk at the read AND a full size trunk at the front

All that should be in the frunk is a spare tyre and a man purse

>>15537011
>Literally 90hp and 4000lbs
>Fun

>>15536770
M I A T A
I
A
T
A

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Dodge challenger

3 different V8 engines to choose from that all come standard with the tremec 6 speed from the viper.

Little on the heavy side but you can get the R/T scat pack version with a 485 hp engine, brembo brakes all around, electronic limited diff, and viper trans for under $40k. That's a pretty kick ass deal for a nearly 4 second flat car.

The ones equipped with the 5.7 L hemi are pretty cool too since you can run 500 HP easily just by slapping on a super charger.

>>15537045
fun-er than a volt, at least
mostly because they use the regen braking to act like really aggressive engine braking which is kind of a unique sensation

>>15537085
When did you drive one?

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>>15537025
>he doesn't have Recaro seats

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>>15537072
>little on the heavy side
>5.7 hemi

>>15537112
but I am too heavy for them

>>15536835
these are shit tier cars imo

audi a4 avant
bmw 4 series
s90 maybe
tesla if you are eco friendly

that's about it

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Yes.

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>>15537198
talk about depreciation. those things hold value worse than used beer

>>15537206
Does that say $45.000 off?

AS in price reduced by $45K?

Well in my opinion the e46 bmw is overall one of the most all around useful cars, they made them in pretty much every variant, coupe, vert, wagon, sedan, manual, auto, rwd, awd, m3 etc etc. They are cheap, well balanced, sporty and fairly utilitarian. That being said the new ats Cadillac is based directly on the e46 platform. I have driven them, I am caddy salesman, and they are great.

>>15537388
yes, on a new car.
like i said depreciation. all personal luxury coupe style cars have this.

>>15537072
I want to agree so hard, but they're probably unreliable pieces of shit.

Also i love the charger SRT helcat
>707hp
>faster than challenger cos aerodynamic
>Get to bring friends
>Safe enough to not crash with no survivors
>Looks normal enough for normies to not call you out on your master plan
>only auto a shit though

>>15536770
Literally every italian car, tbqhwyf.

>>15537548
>only auto
Why is this allowed?

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>>15537556
>FWD
>Fix It Again Tony
>diesel

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>>15536770
See pic related.

>>15538083
Nobles remind of the one girl in your class that had a nice ass and body but a horrible face (the front of a Noble is ugly 2bh)

>>15537573
because most modern autos can shift faster than manuals no matter how good you are

may not be as fun but its the truth

>>15538355
That's only true of DCT's which very few cars actually use, most of them are VAG products

>>15537573
>muscle car
>straight line machine
>shift times actually matter for going in a straight line
>less clutch to destroy with that power
>harder to fuck up a launch

there you go

>>15538452
>Only goes in str8 line
>imbying
http://fastestlaps.com/models/dodge-charger-srt-hellcat

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>>15536770
I gotchu senpai.
Prove me wrong.

>protip: you can't

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>>15538522
>not posting an actual muscle car
kys

>>15538522
it so fat though, i want it to be sleeker like the original challenger

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>>15538533
Safety regs mean that the beautiful old muscle cars will never return. Pic related. You'll never see that because people are worried about their children's shins.

>>15538567

Except F bodies weren't muscle cars. They were pony cars.

>>15538532

>Camaro

There are cheaper ways to tell the world you have a small penis.

>>15538579
>2 door
>big-block V8
>American-made
Am I missing something?

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>>15538585
>the obligatory small penis commenter arrives

>>15538522
>>15538532

>Chrysler
>Government Motors

Why does anyone still patronize manufacturers with executives that literally spend your tax money on hookers and blow?

>>15537001
Oh my fucking jesus please tell me what that shit is called. I had one as a kid and it was amazing.

>>15538589
Yes.

Mustang was also a pony car at first.

>>15538605
There's no difference between pony and muscle then. Big-block V8s.

>>15538589

Firebird is a rebadged Camaro. Camaro was created to compete with Mustang. Therefore, Firebird is a pony car.

>>15537001
He is right though. Sitting in a focus is a pretty miserable experience. The dash is way too high.

>>15538616
>Camaro
>EVER being a pony car.
Please commit sudoku.

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>>15536950
>trunk in the front
>elephant

>>15538623

It's a fact. Look it up.

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>>15538632

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>>15538632
Most pony cars are muscle cars you dense fuck, they don't just have one label.

>>15538601
tomy racing turbo.

>>15537072

>4000 lbs

"no"

>>15538719
>4000 pounds
>707hp
If you think weight even matters when you have that much power you're a fucking retard and have never driven a car that weighed atleast 3800lbs with you in it that had 500hp/500ftlbs.

>>15538731

>two fucking tongs
>"little on the heavy side"


average FCA fanboy intelligence

>>15536914
I don't think it should have a grill, but at the same time, it looks like it's *missing* a grill rather than designed without one

>>15538736
Wat
Gubment moters fanboy here
But I can respect anything fast
The fact we live in a time where you can buy 600+hp cars with a warranty is a fantastic thing, don't be dense anon.

>>15538532
Why did you post a picture of a recall?

>>15538785
You're a recall

>>15537001
It's not all that bad, but it's so much uglier looking than it could be, and most competing cars have way better interiors.

>>15536770
GT 350?

>>15538748
dunno why but i actually like this

Reminds me of the old opels

>>15538748
exposed, confirmed shit

>>15536770
Yes if you have time machine plenty of good looking new cars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkM7A7F8roU

>>15537001
HOLY SHIT. Out of fucking nowhere, I remember having this fucking thing as a kid

>>15536770
I have a massive boner for those headlights

>>15538791
Best comeback ever.

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>>15536770

Chevy Volt.

Also:
>>15536914

>>15538748
/thread

>>15537001
I now realize why I have such a hard on for digital dashes.

Twingo GT

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honda accord with V6

>>15536914
if i remember right isn't the interior pretty shit? really minimal

>>15539219
it looks like a pile of shit

i like the rims tho

>>15537198
Mercedes look absolutely disgusting now

>>15540396
all we have seen so far are pre production test mules.

though I prefer clean simple interiors.

>>15536770
v90, s90. Fucking nice looking cars man

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>>15540487

I don't think it looks good, but it doesn't look bad either. It's plain.

I feel the same about the interior.

>>15538638
>biel, switzerland

>>15537001
Ayy Lmao
I never thought I would see based Ashens on /o/...

>>15537548
Don't the hellcat twins come in manual?

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Yes

>>15543836
>Not fast
>Not safe
>Not light weight

no

>>15543806
Only the challenger R/T, R/T scat pack, SRT 392, and hell cat come in manual

Charger is automatic only across the board because something to do with the floor pan. It would have needed to be redesigned to pass crash testing and sales from manual chargers weren't projected to make up for the design costs.

Once again safety regulations fuck up everything....

>>15544432
>Once again safety regulations fuck up everything....
>everything

Because safety isn't a part of "everything", right?

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>>15539219
>>15542478

I really like the new blue.

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>>15544633

>>15544426
>Not safe
Excuse me? Why does it have a top safety pick from the IIHS then?

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>>15544638

Silver does look good too with the contrasting black accents.

>>15544645

"The driver space was not maintained well, with maximum intrusion of the lower interior of 31 cm at the lower hinge pillar. Upper interior intrusion measured as much as 16-18 cm at the instrument panel and hinge pillar. The door sill was pushed in laterally 20 cm toward the driver."

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/scion/fr-s-2-door-hatchback