How did you guys learn about cars?

i simply read the shop manual.
thats plenty of information

>>15524085
I learned about cars mostly from my dad, and people i met through cars and i read manuals, watched youtube videos bought my own tools and i would go out and do small things like cleaning sensors. oil changes. and moved up beyond that with time and learning on my own. one of my friends i asked him a similar question you're asking and he just said "man i just go out there with my tools and wing it and if i fuck up theres always a way around i or a fix for it."

for years i sit on here and read random threads

and anything i wanted to know more about i learned about it

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Start with the basics and take it from there.

>>15524085
I was 19 when my dad dropped me off at his house in san luis obispo and told me i couldnt come home until I changed the clutch in his '02 F-250 diesel. I had never done any sort of car repair before. Basically you watch a video, rewatch it several times and then start taking stuff off until you get to the part that needs replacing. As you get better you end up taking off less extra parts. Just do it, TM Nike. There's nothing you can break that cant be fixed. And if you do break something, it was going to break soon anyways.

>>15524085
Watched a bunch of "two dudes in a garage" type shows growing up, and reading popular mechanics, then xeroxing/Internet pirating interesting shop manuals. Pretty much since I was 16 if I wanted something with wheels, I had to build it or fix it up myself. 2 Motorcycles (first one completely self built) 2 cars and 2 trucks later I consider myself mostly competent. Been working on a project involving your pic related for about 6 months now.

>get job Janaury 2015, start browsing here and car forums left and right all day to learn and find out which car I wanted
>buy first car, 2006 Mustang GT on July 2015
>didn't even know how to change a battery or tire
>alternator went to shit
>tires plus wanted $450 to change it and the part
>fuck that, went to aurozone and bought the part for $180 and did it myself watching a step by step video
>took me 2 hours but can now do it in 20 minutes
>gained some mechanical confidence in my abilities and did all my work myself
>now did long tube headers, cam swap and all sorts of other shit on my own, mainly mods and maintaince


Dude it's 2016, there is a step by step guide on everything online or a video. All you need is a good floor jack, jack stands and a good tool set with every socket and extension you could need. The only time I need to go to a mechanic or shop is for hardcore body work or complicated electrical shit. I'm getting ready to drop my trsnny and change out my clutch and flywheel soon. Kinda nervous for that because it takes precision. Cars are basically fucking Legos. Just unbolt shit and bolt new shit back in. Some shit refuses I comply due to rust so it's harder.

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Kids these days... ;)
Basically a handbook for kids learning to read.

>>15524179
Also, it helps if you have a like minded friend and music. Always have a second pair of eyes for complicated shit in case you miss something. Plus you won't get as frustrated.

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>>15524085
Here you go .
http://www.arranalexander.co.uk/how-it-works---the-motor-car-vintage-ladybird-book-series-654-first-edition-matte-hardback-1965-3525-p.asp

Gran turismo

Whenever I'm depressed I look into building stuff or fixing shit to get my mind off things.

Started off with building and fixing gaming computers for myself and friends to building stupid fucking toy airsoft guns for myself and friends; building a 60 BB's a second DSG airsoft gun = fun. Slowly progressed to firearms and then said fuck it, guess the next progression is cars.

Started out wrenching on my POS DD Avalon and got the hang of stuff by myself. Changing the timing belt, oil, brakes, simple stuff like that.

I do it by myself mostly because I have no friends. My father helps me every now and then to guide me. He was an E9 aircraft mechanic so he's pretty mechanically inclined. Shows me how to stuff.

Currentlty have enough money to buy a LHD Poopra 6 spd meme car if I wanted to as a project. Deciding on buying a MR2 first however to learn the more advance stuff before I move up to the Poopy.

>tfw still live with parents however

Meh.

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>>15524226

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>>15524085
>Everything I learned about them was a shitty class I took in high school

High school should have had multiple classes in automobile shop. My highschool had a large shop garage with six bays with lifts, 2 big wide flat bays with engine hoists, and more covered areas out in the open to keep the sun off you. And of course some project storage area. The total square footage including driveway areas was probably the size of a baskball court (including the on floor team seating). There were whole series of courses on the engine. A series of courses on suspension. A three quarter series on welding because that also included frame and chassis rework and was the core of body shop training for frame rebuilding. So if you said just welding, ha, i can do that in two weeks, no, you are wrong. Welding techniques differ all the time and you have to prop things up, support things, know when to use a frame around pieces before you weld, etc. You also need to know when not to weld with certain electric or torch welders. There was a paint booth too.

I was a top A+ student (3rd) so I was disqualified from the courses (always rejected). I took small engines and took apart and put together a lawnmower engine in middle school as well as replacing worn parts so I had the prerequisites for high school auto. But since I was college bound, the classes were denied as all slots were reserved for vocational training of those who were not college bound. That was clearly a local school internal policy.

When you say you only had "a" single course in auto shop in high school, I say what the fvck? My school was also in a poor area with lots of mexicans and blacks. There were 1100 students in my freshman class and only 121 seniors graduated in my final year. So that was a steep highschool dropout rate. Although not as great as in Highschool of the Dead which had a 100% fail rate.

I really liked that middle school small engines class.

Picture: Girl Wrencher

>>15524677
My high school didn't have any kind of shop classes at all

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>>15524677lol @ highschool of the dead. Watching initial D fifth right now, shits cash.

>>15524085
>have question
>open google
>type in question
>read
>repeat until you can casually embarrass master mechanics

>>15524772
>My high school didn't have any kind of shop classes at all
All the gear was stolen by thieves, thus no auto shop?

My high school was a large one though. AAA size. This was before "No Child Left Behind" Act and high schools were allowed to fail students. So classes still required some competence from 4th grade onwards. In 6th grade science, we learned about the krebs cycle and about photosynthesis. The neat thing about photosynthesis was how light caused the double bond energy to rotate around the atoms surrounding the magnesium atom until the energy was finally enough to be utilized elsewhere and thus transferred out. Hmm, I still remember something from 6th grade. But the old system of animal, plant, insect, and bacteria is shot up as is the periodic table.

High School students and teachers were competent and we had "intro to auto shop" available to freshmen who had taken small engines in middle school.

At least I bet my 7th grade civics course had more material than today's high school civics and free enterprise course required for graduation.

So, maybe I came from a paradise time when schools were real schools and not babysitters. Our auto shop was a lot of separate courses you took in high school for years. There were 4 quarters per school year (approx aug 26 to may 14). Classes ranged from 7:30AM to 3:21PM Mon thru Fri, and a few saturday courses were available too. Summer school existed typically with vocational courses instead of scholastic ones, but also had make-up courses for those who failed english or math so that they would not be "behind" when the next school year started. One teacher per class and some class sizes were up to 55 students (i counted). Teachers today in my area are spoiled. They teach less, grade less, and have smaller class sizes of 18 to 30 students and they strike all the time with excuses of "More Pay And Benefits For The Children!". Why is it I am better educated with those huge class sizes?

>>15524158
I was thinking about getting a small cheap motorcycle just to fuck around with, sounds fun tbqh

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>>15524085
>How did you guys learn about cars?
Top Gear and Forza.

>>15525335
Bikes are pretty chill to start with. Get some friends and some sweet music and have a blast

>>15524085
Before I was born, my father was a diesel mechanic for the US Army. From what I can find, you'll sometimes still hear stories about "One-Turn Tom" among staff on certain bases. He quit the army before I was born and became an employee at Sikorsky Aircraft, where he still works. I grew up with my dad always working on his vehicles. When I was 4, he swapped the 4 speed manual of his S10 Blazer to a 5 speed. Apparently, I got under the truck with him and said "Can I help? I wanna get black on me too daddy!".
Growing up, my father took me to classic car shows, primarily for air-cooled VW's, and monster truck events. He encouraged my love of cars getting me books on it and allowing me to help him work on the family vehicles. I remember we had a HARD time replacing the hard brake lines on his 94 Ranger (which replaced the Blazer) around when I was 10.

>>15525375
>tfw no friends but some pretty sweet tunes

>>15524179
>cars are basically legos
That's exactly what I thought when I did my first complicated job. It took me a while to understand what the hell was going on, but once I already disassembled it it all made perfect sense and I was able to (moderately) easily put it back together, with the help of some videos of course.

>>15524094
If you don't want to fuck up a repair follow this advice.

If you have difficulty understanding the basics watch youtube videos of different systems in action to understand how they work. Once you have that you can isolate the system and then tinker from there.

>>15524179
I don't have money for tools

>tfw no dad
>no car friends
>no money for tools
>can't afford to fuck up a job and leave me without a car

>>15524677
We did have multiple years but it was shitty still. The teacher told us how to do basic shit like changing fluids or spark plugs. Kids were free to bring in their own cars and fix em up, or even rebuild engines and transmissions. I was a poorfag so I never had such an opportunity.

My first work was messing with go-karts. I worked with my uncle on weekends to make a little money in jr high and bought two kart frames. Both were powered by Briggs 5 hp flathead engines. I fucked with them a lot, mail ordered upgrade parts from the American Power Sports catalog. I think I blew up 3 of those engines.

I did all the maintenance on my first car. I also had to put a transmission in it because the original one split the case. I took the replacement 5 speed apart and welded a solid steel pin into the differential to replace the roll pin that broke on the original transmission. Reassembled it and put another 100k miles on it.

>>15524158
What bike is that?

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>>15524085
>learn about cars

I didn't

>>15525554
Kirill?

>>15525580
how'd you know

>>15525554
You look like the biggest faggot, i hate your guts just from this picture, fuck you.

>>15524085
I didn't start wrenching until like a year ago and learned by modding my honda civic. I started with a cold meme intake and exhaust, then I went to bigger things when I fried the clutch - I replaced that, then when I blew up the engine I swapped another one in kek. I know I'm a dumb ricer, but I've learned a lot since I started owning my own car and i imagine everyone on this board was a retard like me at some point. Really it's just a bunch of nuts and bolts, but just make sure you take your time, do your research, and pay attention to the fine details. Also go to the library they have alldata there and you can get the torque specs for every bolts and good instructions on how to do stuff

Gonna be taking the old b18 apart next week to see what I can salvage, it was just a headgasket I think but I had a bunch of money saved for a new engine anyways so I went with that.

>>15525554
>"what u need fåm?"
>"you know when you turn on the news and see an 'amber ale-?"
>"say no more"

>>15525784
kek'd

>>15524085
My dad taught me everything

>>15525530
Looks like the FS moped my brother had, so I'm gonna say FS of some sort Could be a FSi-e.
Other mopeds with that look are the PUCH VS50

>>15525731
You don't really hate him anon. You hate yourself

>>15524085
>wot daily
>shit breaks
>fix shit
>shit breaks
rinse and repeat

>>15524085
>how did you guys start wrenching

I never start even with oil changes because I just can't get over the fear of the car falling on top of me when I am under it. The chinese jacks scare me with their chinese quality or I might get a lemon jack stand. I've had too many other lemon chinese products in the past. But if these lemons fail when I am under the car, it's not something I can walk away from. The car only has about 6.5 inches of ground clearance as measured with tape measure, so I would be crushed.

>>15527891
Anon, follow all the proper procedures and give everything a wiggle test before getting under and everything will be fine. If you are really nervous then find some thick ass logs or stump sections that are big and wide(at least as thick as you) and put them under the car when you go under, that way even if some one comes up and rips the jacks out from under your car you will be okay

>>15524289
Could get a Mk3 for much less.

Learn to embrace the 1JZ-GTE

I got hired at Sears as a lube jockey with no prior experience. I now work at a stealershit in the warehouse, own two cars and fix them myself.

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>>15525554

>>15527947
>follow all the proper procedures and give everything a wiggle test before getting under and everything will be fine.

Bow, wow. Ruff, ruff.
My master is playing under the big hrududu noisy thing.

Bow wow. Ruff, ruff.
I want to play too.
(puts paw on jack's quick release lever)

Bow wow. Ruff, ruff.

>>15524160
>No pic

>>15528396
shut the FUCK up

>>15528396
Yiff in hell

do what I did op, buy a sports car under 4k, try to fix it when you really have no knowledge. break shit on said car, sell car. I know it sounds fucking retarded but I know a fuck ton about cars now bc I did just about everything you AREN'T supposed to do :^)

>>15528541
how about you follow the manual?

>>15528396
You have autism. That post is fucking garbage.

>>15528551
That comes after you don't.

Also if manuals actually had every single little detail, trick, tweak and ritual you ought to follow when doing things it'd be thicker than the Falcon 4.0 manual. Everything is best learned from a combination of someone smarter than you and fucking stuff up.

>>15525580
>>15525554
I like everything about your car except the fucking STANCED shit you did. Raise it up. Let it be free

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>>15524085

i was 19 working in a grocery store, garage i always went to offered me an apprenticeship, 6 years later i still work there and have my Journeyman/Redseal tickets

fucking job ruined cars for me, dont work on my own stuff really anymore and have 2 projects that have sat for 4 years. cant wait to quit and get a desk job

>>15525627
aлo йoбa этo ты?

>>15525530
Yamaha FS1-E, I wish they still made learner bikes like this so we could actually get used to wrenching on ez mode. Thankfully my dad is a mechanic genius and is teaching me all I need to know.

>>15528749
What do you mean it "ruined cars" for you?

>>15525454
>tfw nobody responds to you

>>15525454
>>15529014
it's okay, I'm in the same boat. If I fuck my shit up, it's fucked for good

>>15525482
>I was a poorfag so I never had such an opportunity.
The school had no problem having junkers towed over for students to work on. Spare parts are supplied by the junkyard by students pulling parts from cars there (free for the school class) The benefit to the junkyard was that the "repaired" car was theirs when it was returned after the class was over. Thus, students didn't have to pay for any car, the car parts, or the tools. Because the junkyard got to keep the car, a lot of times, the students got to work on "better" cars because it was obviously more profitable for the junkyard to have a nice car repaired for free than some ancient beater. Because donating car parts to the school was obviously a tax deductible situation, the junkyard also got tax deductions out of it. Everyone had win-win. It just took teachers to care enough to contact and set up the process with private industry.

If the teachers won't do something without getting paid specifically for it, then of course nothing happens. Lots of teachers are like that too. They're too busy using the job's perks to make money on the side to spare time to work on projects that would enhance their high school's curriculum.

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>>15524085
Buy breaky car
Buy cheap tools
Fix breaky car
???????
No profits because u spent it all on car, but you'll learn to fix things


Pic related.

>>15529247
That sounds fucking awesome, I wish my shitty class would have done something like that

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>>15529260
Even better if it's an old shitty car like yours because they are easy to fix so while they are shitty, they will outlive the new crap that are designed to crap itself from the inside behind 7 layers of plastic parts that break if you open it just so the insurance company see that you've tampered with it.

>>15529009

my old job i would work sometimes until 9pm then work on my car until 1am, weekends i would spend half the day on them. now after working on other peoples shit all week i barely touch my stuff weekends

you just get tired of working on cars, have to keep hobbies and work separate. i never and it killed cars for me, only reason im still a mechanic is i need the money. once i can go back to school im getting into the medical field so maybe cars can be a hobby again

i dont regret becoming a mechanic per se because i went from not even knowing how to change my own oil to knowing a ton, but they say after 5 years you get burned out and i have

>>15529647
Don't call my stuff shit senpai, only I can call my stuff shit.

Tfw your truck is mechanically new but looks like doo

>>15524085
I bought a DSM.

I'm a cheap bastard and always buy $1000-$3000 cars. I never go to a mechanic for anything. Since they are cheap I have a complete willingness to do my own repairs. I look up the procedure on youtube or consult a repair manual.

>>15529787
I think your truck looks fuckin sexy, just give it a new paint job

>>15529634
>That sounds fucking awesome, I wish my shitty class would have done something like that

Something like that can't exist anymore in today's modern world. I went back to my hometown on a visit and it has zero junkyards in the whole region. Junkyards cannot remain in business with their used rusted weathered parts when China sells their low quality pot-metal new parts to consumers who don't care about metal purity or if their plastic chinese parts have lead in the plastic and lead in the paint. The consumers only cared that the part is declared by the chinese as "new" even if it was a lightly sanded down part that was re-chromed to look new.

>>15529979
I had a shop class in 9th grade. We used arc welders, oxy/acetylene torches, and all manner of saws.

This was in the year 2000.

>>15528009

It's a very fine line between the MR2 or Mk3.

You're probably right though. If all of my dream cars are inline 6 based, might as well learn an inline 6.

The only thing that's keeping me from doing the Mk3 is the parts availability of the 1JZ. With the Mr2 I can literally do a bunch of engine swaps that have common parts I can get from a Toyota dealer or Autozone.

However doing an engine swap with the Mr2 is leaps and bounds harder I expect (and researched) compared to a car that was made for the engine I will be swapping.

We will see. There are a lot of AW11's for sale where I live and they all are barely rusted due to the climate where I live. Barely any Mk3's.....but fuck a Mk3 looks so nice as well.

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>buy shitty condition 90's Audi
>have plenty of spare money
>choose to fix it up yourself
>give up your social life
You haev now learnt a lot and are stronger than ever. You have become undefeatable, a god amongst shadetrees

I don't regret it... a lot.

Start with suspension work. It's a little cheaper and simpler than engine work.

until you flip the fuck over trying to be dagumi with your new drift-tuned FWD shitbox

>>15524085
My first car was a '64 triumph spitfire that I had to rebuild just so that it could break again. I was 15 yo. Then I took auto shop classes in HS in fact 3 periods a day was AS. Then I fell in love with Italian cars. This path I do not recommend.

>buy shitting car
>drive like dagumi
>when something breaks pick up Haynes manual and fix it
>rinse
>repeat

>>15525352
The only thing that teaches you is makes, models, performance specs.

They don't teach you how cars work.

>>15530005
>I had a shop class in 9th grade. We used arc welders, oxy/acetylene torches, and all manner of saws

Then your school was like mine. As long as you had the CAREFULNESS and no LOL LOL type attitude, even freshman were able to handle welding tools at our auto shop classes after the first quarter which had students use hand tools to take things apart and put them together in five minutes.

It was very similar to how a chilton's guide was written out. Each student had something similar to work on. You have the guide sheets in plastic and items to take apart and put back together to not only get you used to using tools, but to familiarize with different auto parts. So, you have a class of 30. 10 work on A1 to A10 to take apart and put together. 10 work on B1 to B10. 10 work on C1 to C10. Five minutes up. Now people move to next item. Those that did A go to B. Those that did B move to C. Those that were doing C now move to A items. That was smart and reduced the number of duplicate items in the class which was important to save storage space.

My high school was well organized in its auto shop classes. The shelves had many stacks of photocopied items like those for A, B, C, D, etc. By the time students got thru them all, they had even held struts in their hands and unfastened and fastened joints by the end of the 2nd quarter.

Anyone that did horseplay with parts or tools was kicked out ON THE FIRST TIME. That was the rule of all auto shop classes. Absolutely no fooling around with equipment. You wave a tool like you're going to hit someone with it, you are kicked out. The End.

>>15524085
>Everything I learned about them was a shitty class I took in high schoo

If your school only had one auto class, then the teachers sacrificed the students in order to have bigger paychecks, technology bonuses, and perks to use for their own private for-profit businesses using school gear and school training.

Since they are unable to deliberately misuse autoshop gear and training, that is probably why they didn't bother to divert funds to auto shop.

Example: One high school teacher (Kent, Washington area) is partners with 2 others in a graphics art and production fulfilment business. They make brochures and mailings for businesses and have clients such as microsoft and others. She is trained using high school tech funds, and was even using high school laptops issued to teachers along with software and the training paid for by tech grants via the school. I overheard her talking about one 64,000 project they had with microsoft to produce and mail a simple brochure about how "microsoft cares" about something. I guess it was more PR stuff. But she used a lot of school property in her private business since it was issued to teachers.

So, if teachers have the option to steer funding to things that benefit them, then your auto shop funding gets sacrified.

>>15532295
>Anyone that did horseplay with parts or tools was kicked out ON THE FIRST TIME
That sounds amazing. The teachers I had didn't do shit to control the spics and niggers in the class who didn't want to learn, and let everyone else suffer. Everyone saw the teachers as pushovers and basically walked all over them because they knew they wouldn't do shit.

I bought a shitbox car for 500 to learn/try restoring. bought a welder (though i don't know how to weld) and going to start doing panel work on it.
an engine isn't too complicated either way so i have a general idea of what it 'could' be making car not work good, but not exactly pinpoint it.

i've never tried rebuilding an engine or transmission yet. those are things which I think would be hard to do and wouldn't really want to fuck up

When I get more money I want to buy something like a civic or rwd corona/corolla and race it, and learn how to tune/setup race car my self. at the moment i only have money enough to do basic things, not really spend 5 grand on modifications

>>15532521
That's the teachers' fault. Are the teachers just showing up to collect their lucrative paychecks and huge benefits packages? In my county, over half of the property taxes go to paying for education costs including teacher pensions due to their frequent strikes and COLA built in. That means less than half of the property tax remains to pay for everything else (police, fire, government employees, roads, vehicles, traffic lights, night time street lights, utility bills, construction, and pensions for everyone else). The teachers really got it good due to the voters showing up and the other voters not showing up.

start with an old trail bike to fix up

then move up to a reliable old shitbox, fix shit as they break

then buy an old shitbox with problems and fix them

then buy a newer shitbox with problem to fix, make it reliable

then buy a new car, fix its problems

then sell the cars you've fixed, recoup the money, and spend that money on a car you want or decide to keep dumping money into

>>15524085
from /o/

>>15524085
Just buy a lemon and tear it apart. Best way to learn is to do.

>>15532972
This isn't a humor thread anon

>>15532993
What he probably means is that he saved a lot of time by asking /o/ where the good sites are, the good youtube channels for various topics, and also looked at past archived threads such as those on detailing, synthetic vs conventional oils, how to apply soundproofing and dynamat to cars, etcetera.

>This isn't a humor thread anon
And there is always the past Longpost Guy's threads about used car salesman escapes.

>>15532993
>This isn't a humor thread anon
Nor are modern high schools places of learning.

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Wanted to commit suicide, but was too lazy. Complete NEET and started learning about cars because it appealed to me. Started with random online things to learn. Went to Reddit for more in-depth learning. Went to an automotive class to learn basics and get hands on training to instill that information and have a solid foundation.

Fixed my own car because I was poor and wanted to learn hands on for more complicated things. Neighbor's noticed and paid me to fix their cars. Noticed I did a good job, had good prices, and was honest. Often times it'd be a small issue that didn't require the work the shop quoted them. Saved one person over $5,000 and they gave me a $500 tip for it and got me TONS of customers.

Had too many customers and not enough time. Started a business. Won't go into detail, obviously, but the business makes about $25,000 a month. Note I said the business, not me. I get very little of that. For now.

Also started a business selling cars. I was able to go from a rust bucket to a new, to me, Audi that I never thought I'd be able to have. Only downside is working constantly, but I love it so I don't mind. Beats being a NEET any day.

Lesson here, I guess, is that if you're not a cunt and you're a good human being then everything will work out for you. Seems bad now, but you'll be fine. If an autistic retard like me did it, you can too.

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>>15525386
jelly as fuck. srsly, that sounds like one cool father.

>>15528396
Audible kek. Thanks, anon.

>>15535441
>Sikorsky Aircraft
btw, the nickname "One-Turn Tom" cam about while he was in the army.
"One more turn oughta do it"
*snap*

>>15535413
Thanks for the encouragement anon, good shit

>>15535413
> Went to Reddit for more in-depth learning
are there good subreddits for beginners?

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>>15535723
https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/1f677x/can_we_start_building_a_list_of_carrelated/

Used to be more, but I can't remember. Should have saved them.

Basically I got my start from high school auto classes (and freshman Metal shop where there was a little overlap fabricating and welding parts)
My dad was a wrencher but always would get frustrated and yell so it was never really fun working with him at all unless it was vehicle painting
>realize i'm the same kind of wrencher
>fug, take deep breaths
After my life went to hell and I dropped out
halfway through Auto 2 (and intro CIS systems, i really regret not finishing that class) I just kept falling into shitboxes that needed fixing, or knowing people who had shitboxes that needed work, so that's mainly how I gained experience.
thought about going the UTI or Wyotech route but I burn out on stuff really easy, I hate institutional learning systems, and I can't see myself enjoying it very long.
>I also hate customer service
Wrenching is a useful skill to have, and has saved me a lot of money

>the thing that has helped me the most?
youtube videos

>>15533547
>LPG
I knew there was a reason I never bought from dealerships, but LPG put it into perspective
>actually learned something from /o/

>>15525352
I learnt a shitload in rigs of rods and early automation

>>15536417
Automation is a god tier game and has taught me a shit ton just through experience

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>>15524085
My dad jew'd me into buying several bad cars. I was pretty tired of his shit (in general) so I went out and bought a car off of the /o/ front page list (WJ) that appeared to need an engine.

Some great folk on jeepforums.com walked me through tearing the head down and I found that the issue was actually a fallen rocker arm and a bad PCM. I did all of this work myself, including replacing all 4 calipers and the heater core later on.

I sold my shitbox (W-body) shortly afterwards for next to nothing, sometimes I kick myself for it because it was fixable, but in the end it was still pretty shit.

Since then I've been stalking this place, learning a bit more whenever alphonse fucks off for long enough.

>>15537133
>My dad jew'd me into buying several bad cars
He sacrificed you into buying bad cars from him or his own friends? Was his logic based on "if you can be fooled, then you deserve to be fooled" attitude?

>>15524085
I bought an average car and asked myself "Why is this POS so slow?". Then I looked for ways to make it fast and learned how cars functioned.

I learned I'll have a slow car for life.

>>15524085
Forza series, watching mechanics doing their work, fixing shit myself after watching youtube tutorials.

>>15525352
>>15531401
Forza actually does teach you how things work. The upgrades do mostly. Especially if you read the description to each one. Same goes for the tuning part, which is mostly responsible for the car physics and teaching you what does influence what and how does the car behave if something is set to a certain value.

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>Parents bought me a corolla
>if it broke i had to fix it or no car
>i was still taking the bus to school/work, so that wasn't an issue

I learned from my dad and from doing research online. Honestly, I figure most people learn from their dad, unless they have a nu-male for a dad. Every dad should like cars. It's one of the dad rules. Lame jokes, coffee mugs, and cars.

>>15530572
do you know how much fucking puss puss you can get by being a car guy?

Jesus christ you guys are pathetic.

>>15541036
>do you know how much fucking puss puss you can get by being a car guy

It's not just about appearing manly as being able to take care of things yourself impresses both males and females. But you have more self-confidence. That self-confidence is what carries over into getting more females instead of skulking in the shadows hoping a girl comes onto you if you have a bright shiny expensive car.

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>instructional videos

Is there a conspiracy to keep these videos as disgusting and aesthetically offensive as possible? Do the ones with taste get disappeared for revealing secrets in a way a normal person can stomach for more than 30 seconds?

>*green and black MSpaint logo* LAUGHING JESTER presents...
>SOOOO
>*takes huge bite of beef jerky, snorting as he chews*
>SOOOO WATCHA GOTTSH TA DO
>*crinkles mess of wires with his dirty thick sausage fingers so you can hear every sound on his super high sensitivity camera mic*
>YOU GOTSCH TA TAKE ONE A DESE
>*wipes snot with his sleeve*
>AND YOU PUT IT THRU HERE
>*some type of earthquake happens and the camera doesn't re-orient for 5 minutes, missing what he did entirely*

>>15541366
>Is there a conspiracy to keep these videos as disgusting and aesthetically offensive as possible?

If they don't have a cameraman, then their videos are going to suck or wiggle a lot. There have even been some videos where they just zoome through the process saying "do it like this" and then blocked it with their hands or arms or body. Or their camera wiggled so much since it was hung up on wires. Or their camera was blocked since it was aimed at the expected action spot and couldn't move as it was dangling on wires or cradle taped to the car frame. They really need independent camera helpers who then say "do it again because you blocked the shot".

>>15524085
>learn about cars
didn't have to because i'm not stupid
Cars are simple
It's literally a big lego set, and If you don't know how to play with legos then sucks to be you

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>>15541366
Making a quality video takes a lot of time. When I've made videos in the past it's normally been ~10 hours of filming and editing to make a good 10 minute video. I'm certain I could make very good instructional auto videos but I already work on cars 40 hours a week for my job and more on my own car, just no time. So this leaves people who are either unemployed or casual hobbyists who may be able to make a good looking video but don't have the knowledge, or people who do half ass videos because they don't invest the time or they have car knowledge but no videomaking skills. Some companies put out good instructional videos though like Eastwood and House of Kolor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjOOTaHa8GI

>>15524085
Had to learn because I got jewish over paying someone something that I could do myself, ended up fixing my legacy with 10 dollars worth in parts that could be upwards of 600 at a shop, started becoming more interested in how they worked and started work on my GTI, couldn't be happier with my cars and the money I've saved.

>>15542650
100 dollars*

>>15525447
How do you have money for a car?

>>15524085

learned it in high school and trade school. the rest is from experience and youtube. the auto field is greedy. mechanics dont like to teach and help others. samething with shops they only want experienced people and not willing to give rookies a chance. i know this from experience

>>15542687
>not willing to give rookies a chance

A lot of shops don't want to train someone who will then quit and go work for a competitor. It also wastes their time because then they have to re-train yet another person to fill the spot.

>>15524085
It was my mom actually.

She was a tracker when I was going up and built a few before I hit my teens. She had to 'mom up' when my brothers popped out.
Only to end up manual swapping a honda pilot.

>>15524085
>I really want to start learning more in depth about cars (like working on them), but I don't know where or how to start.

Your public library probably has a subscription to Chilton or Haynes. Or it might even have print books.

As for learning, you don't have to have the book for your car although that would be nice. Just read through several of those books and imagine you were actually doing the processes that are outlined in the maintenance pages.

While not real training, it will give you perspective and some familiarity with basic approaches on starting maintenance of certain parts.

>>15524158

Clean as fuck.

>>15524085
>I really want to start learning more in depth about cars (like working on them), but I don't know where or how to start.

You start with the small things and work your way up.

1. Detail the car.
If detailing is already too much work, then life must be really tough, eh?

2. Examine fluids and know what is good or bad.
Besides oil, you have transmission, power steering, brake fluid, coolant, and battery. Modern new cars usually have sealed transmission and battery. The containers usually have level marks so you don't need to open the lids to look. Brake fluid is hygroscopic so frequent opening of its lid is not so good anyways. Be curious and read about it in books or online. You should be able to find mention of hygroscopic somewhere if you read enough.

3. Use selfie stick and camera to check under car and behind and below engine for leaks. That way, you don't need to get under the car to look at things since you have both photos and movies. It's nice to have high resolution, right?

4. Changing a tire.
You can always practice taking a tire off and putting it back on again. Check the inflation level of your spare.

5. Your first oil change.
Plenty of online descriptions and even videos. Just be sure your ramps are secure. Or you have raised your car up on jack stands.

>>15524085
buy a cheap car and take it apart
then put it back together

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>>15546550
>buy a cheap car and take it apart
>then put it back together

OP can't just go and do that right off the bat.
Until OP learns more, he won't use tools properly.
OP also needs to have some safe gear to use and not to trust every salesman that will sell him substandard gear just to meet monthly sales goals (non commissioned sales staff have monthly goals to get their reward).

Failure to understand and think ahead about safety results in injury, maiming, or even death. Even a cute little car can accidentally press its owner against a mailbox and kill him. You've already read about that in the news.....

My first was a 94 GMC Jimmy. Got it for $400 when I was 18. I learned everything about cars from that thing stove it broke every 12 minutes. Learned how to change:
Brakes
Idler pulley
Radiator
Alternator
Belt
Oil
Fuel pump
Head lights
Battery
Spark plugs
Distributor and wire set
Window motors
High pressure lines
And so much more i can't even remember. I loved that truck but the fuel pump was what lead to out going to the crusher. Dropped the tank just to find out it was riddled with pin holes under the straps. Apparently the rust had kept the holes covered just enough to keep it from shitting the bed but once the tank was dropped, it shat hard. Got a ram 1500 with an 8 foot bed and a bench seat after that and then a Mercury Montego once I started working my current job. Looking at the new Tacoma now, once you've driven a truck you can't go to anything else

>>15547188
If safety isn't common sense, he deserves to get hurt.

>>15547661
>If safety isn't common sense, he deserves to get hurt.

It's irresponsible to give advice not properly tailored to the recipient. I suppose it's okay from a bullying point of view or a schadenfreude point of view. /o/ surely has a lot of that with alphonse and the trolls. They like to make good threads expire by making lots of spammy nonsense subject threads (especially starting with some nearly nude girl as the OP picture) to drag in the penis brains. Once enough good threads are gone, new request for advice threads appear and they can then fill them with bad advice to cause more damage.

>>15543830
the way i see it is they just want somebody who can do the job and make them money. but what you said is true too. some guy my dad knew never trained anybody in his alarm and stereo shop because then they would just use him and go do their own thing.

>>15547785
I'm not one for blatant shitposting, and am with you on that. But my god, you sound like such a pussy.

Read books or the interent or whatever to learn and understand principles of operation
Buy a haynes manual and fix your broken shitbox to learn how to work on them.
The rest comes with time.
Ive been working on cars for close to 8 years only 5 professionally. And i still feel like i dont know shit

>>15548469
>And i still feel like i dont know shit

That's because you have a moving target. The cars are always changing.

How to know cars:

STEP 1: Know the basics of how an internal combustion engine design works and how it connects to the wheels.

STEP 2. Know the job of each part in an engine, and how the cars features help make each job more efficient. (Carbs vs EFI, Variable Valve Timing, etc)

STEP 3: Learn how fuel/ratio works in a car.

STEP 4: You know cars

>>15549758
Dis

>>15549758
I already studied the shit out of engines and know pretty much every single part and their functions, I've studied transmissions until I understood exactly how they work (although I still don't really understand automatic transmissions), I've studied the drive train, wheels, brakes, electrical systems, valve timing, spark timing, compression ratios, carburetors, EFI, cooling system, and more, but I just want to work on the damn things

>>15524085
I didn't.
>Start looking for my first car
>Get interested in them while I'm doing it, think I can turn it into a hobby
>Get my car, too lazy to read the manual or wash it.
>Time to change oil comes around, realise I don't have any tools
>Realise cars aren't my thing
Literally happens with everything I try so I continue playing dota all day.

>>15550712
>Continue playing DotA all day
Your problem is you.

>>15550752
I'm well aware

>>15550341
STEP 5: Buy OEM shop manual for your car

>>15524085
>>15551140
>I really want to start learning more

Downloadable books on engines, tuning, and repair:
http://archive.4plebs.org/o/thread/15461417/

http://archive.4plebs.org/o/thread/15419448

I find wrenching on a oldass car the best way.

>Dont care if it breaks
>Dont care if i break it
>Dont care because parts are cheap and easy to get
Only thing i dont like wrenching on is exotic and rare stuff like this old bimmer rs100 i have

>Wont start easily
>Drains batteries like a nigger
>???

Goddamn germans!

>>15551140
From where? My dealer's parts department refuses to admit such a thing exists. Thus there is none for sale.

>>15541366
i would siggest Eric the car guy!
he truly tries with his videos.
but feels he's starting to sell out with all sponsorship and what not

>>15553300
>but feels he's starting to sell out with all sponsorship and what not

Even infomercials can be informative. Just substitute another product name in your mind. Hopefully, the more he gets paid, the better the videos will become. Money can give Eric the freedom to do things that were out of his budget previously. So I am hoping for more.

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>>15524085
Bunch of books, and video on engine assembly and disassembly.

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reply if links dont work. I uploaded these.

>>>/t/725510

>>15541366
>>15536098


>>>/t/725510 Just download it. And seed for others. Google boxwrench engine building. (thats the vid).

>>15525776
>tfw absent father and mother shamed me for liking cars. Zero car friends.
Some kinda liked cars then when I released my car autismo they ran away.
>tfw must've done BAAAD things in previous life.

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>>15524085
I've always been into cars since i was like 5 yrs old.
I've learned a lot more about the technical side with a game called Automation (not really a game tho, more like a tycoon, pic related), its really great to understand how it works.

>>15525454
just save a few bucks a month and buy a piece of shit rwd fun car from craigslist for like 400$ and wrench on that, insure it or sell it when you've had your fun. Having a place to work is important though

>>15524085
I shatpost about ecoboost on /o/