/hhg/ - Hot Hatch General

>>15521347
The Rebel blue looks brilliant when it's clean. But it's a shame there's not more colours available desu

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the gti is over rated
all it is, a small car with good seats and somewhat nice interior for the day.
mine is not quick, steering is not great, brakes are not strong. doesn't do anything that great.
engine is hard to work on, the transmission is geared like a farmers grain truck

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Bloody hell, a HHG that I haven't started. I thought they'd be dead when I took a break from /o/

Here's mine over a year ago. I miss her :c

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how good of a hot hatch is this? i see them time to time in my craigslist. no not often but they pop up.

>>15521552
Depends on the engine. If swapped then it could be anything. They are really common in rallying here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kYTtWGf3H0

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Gonna treat my self to a car wash today before heading into the mountains for the weekend.

Are two door hatchbacks available in NA?

>>15521628
you mean cars like the brz?

>>15521628
The Golf is, the Fiesta is not yet.

>>15521552
Pretty good if you strip it from everything. A typical fun hatch.

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>>15521633
>brz
>hatchback

How good is an ep3 as a tuning base?
Episode 3 anyone

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>>15521633
What.

>>15522055

Bretty good but you'll need a new ECU before any meaningful gains.

Seem to be a fair few turned into hillclimb cars

>>15522055
>>15522262
ep3 is pigfat

Can someone help me decide between a 5th gen 1990 celica and a 6th gen 1997? Both are the base model, both in great condition low miles

>>15522262
Also the head from a k20a2 or z1

>>15521347
>>15521525
>>15521542
>>15521545


hatchbacks are for women

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am i a Hot hatch

>>15521347
>MUH FWD IS JUST AS GOOD XDDDDD MY ECONOBOX IS A REAL SPORTS CAR

This is why nobody takes you retards seriously, if you have to make a general don't fucking go damage control immediately.

>>15522543
k

>>15522552
warm

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Hot hatch?

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>>15521622
Nice. Here's mine, just picked it up last week and it's rained every day since.

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>>15521347
Opinions on Kia Po Ceed GT?

>>15522598
mild

>>15522742

Its going to get better in the next Generation of it, Getting a IRS, and some engine refinements.

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Moving up in age.

I really want to ride in the RS. For a fact the new STI is to harsh of a ride for me to DD. The standard WRX is nice enough. Want to know how it compares to the STI/WRX

>>15523123
RS can't be too far off from the ST which is pretty stiff stock. my friends new wrx sedan is softer than my ST
can't say for the STI tho

>>15523130
If that's the case I might as well get the WRX. Really want a hatch version though.


I don't know how people can DD a STI. My fillings feel like it's gonna come out

>>15522977
Tastefully done anon

>>15522609
Postie spotted.

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>>15521542
the us spec mk1 GTI =/= EU spec mk1 GTI

different engine, transmission, suspension, trim and interior.

pretty much the only thing the rabbit (econobox) and the golf (godmachine) share is the body shell

>>15523397
kek, it's an ex-Royal Mail van. It's got parking sensors with the speakers in the back somewhere so when it's empty it's loud as fuck every time you put it in reverse.

>>15523475
I have fucking autism and this post made me realize it.

Here's why:

>>15523135
Give it a little time. They are rumored to be getting one soon. I have a 2016 wrx and have been extremely happy with it. I went from my mk4 gti to it. The new engine has been really good.

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>tfw no recaros

;_;

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is my acura civic a hot hatch? it is a hatchback but the body styling is more like a coupe.

>>15523570
liftback coupe

I guess it's technically a hatchback

>>15523546
Does yours have Android Auto built in? Or is that a 2017 thing

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>>15523475
wait what? they are not the same? i knew they had a different dash but what about the rest?

>>15523555
I want Recaros, from the MK1.

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If a Fiesta ST or Clio RRS are considered hot hatches, what the is the Mazdaspeed 3? A Hell Hatch? Muscle Hatch?

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>>15523622
>>15523555
I love my Recaros. Driving at night with the windows down and the heated seats on is great.

I recently got a mk4 tdi golf
>because why the fuck not have a hatchback that can roll coal

>>15523639
they call it god.

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We posting our 'Stees lads?

>tfw probably going soon

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am i a Hot hatch?

>>15523830
Uh no, it's a four door coupe.

>>15523843
>4 door coupe
That is called a Sedan you fucking moron.

>>15523896
Incorrect. coupes can be four door and sedans can be two door

>>15523896
coupes and sedans arent defined by the amount of doors

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In my opinion my car isn't a hatch but some fuckwits call it a hatch because it's boot or "trunk" is the hatch type, so I don't know

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>>15523784
Black ones get dirty all the time. Is a pain to keep them clean, but they look great when they are.

>>15524070
I posted the molten orange one up the thread. I've had it just over a week now and at a glance it looks as clean as when I got it. Every other car I've owned has been black and they do look great clean, but it's nice knowing I can wash a car and it won't be filthy the next day.

>>15524014
I've seen you post quite a bit recently. Did you just get the car? I really like it, I drive an FC right now and I WAS going to import an R32 GT-R but I think I might try to find a type-RS or RZ instead... so sexy

PLEASE put some kind of spoiler on her, by the way

>>15523639
Understeer

>>15523594
Android auto must be a 2017 feature. Mine is loaded but I don't have anything like that as far as I know.

What are the issues of the 2016 focus rs? I like the car but wanna be realistic with if I should get it

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>>15524254
I've had the car for a few months now, just been posting more for fun

It had a spoiler on it when I got it, but it was god awful, (there it is in the pic) so I took it off, planning to get a better one in the future

>testing out my hot hatch on a local quiet quick road an hour ago
>way over the speed limit, not another car on the road
>get home, check the local Police facebook page
>they had a speed trap set up all day, but had packed up by the time I was driving through

Very close call.

>>15527055
>better
>non factory

also
>multi-lug pattern wheels

>>15522977
So you have a CAI in there, but left the stock intake bolted to the front right beneath the bonnet?

What.

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>tfw your 320hp rwd 3500 lb Pontiac Trans Am is a 2dr HATCH

is my car a hot hatch anons

>>15522977
>moving up in age
>drives a riced out focus

kek

>>15529131
He meant the car is aging, you dunce.

They haven't made them in over ten years, which is near twenty in Ford years

>>15529463
>They haven't made them in over ten years

>tfw drive 89-91 honda civic hatch EF

SVT focus with rice mods is super gay

>>15529126
>>15527055
fuck OFF ASSHOLES
THIS IS A FWD THREAD
WE JUST WANT ONE FUCKING THREAD WITHOUT FEELING LIKE SHIT

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>>15529491
>THIS IS A FWD THREAD

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Where my speed3 pham at?

And to the hatchbacks are for women meme, what if your gay and own a hatch?

>>15521347
What are some RWD hatches available today?

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A-am I an hot hatch /o/?

>>15529691

lol tepid

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>>15529491
hi corey

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>>15529715
A-and I anon?

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mk1 ford fiesta
good or bad
pretty rare in the usa they only sold them 2 years

>>15529474
Sure, you can have your opinion of that guys car. No one is contesting that.

I'm just telling you your reading comprehension needs work and that you're a dunce.

>>15529474
>89-91
Wait so your car took three years to produce so they just lumped it all into one MY? Seems legit

>>15529054
That is actually the battery box, and to the left of that is the coilpack cover. The intake for the old box actually goes under that and lets air come up into the CAI anyways.

As for it being there, was in the car when I purchased it.

hey anons, I may be able to trade in my 80s cars to get an 02 focus SVT with 75k miles. is 3500 a good deal from a dealer?

the cons would be that I'd need to fix the faggotshit that the previous owner added. like bodykit and speaker wiring and 31 flavors of other ricer junk, I'm sure.
I test drove it today and it drives pretty nice. but 3500 is a lot for me right now.

this car is bad and you should feel bad

>>15530892
3500 in a pretty good deal for 75k, however I bet the timing belt was not changed.

I picked mine up >>15522977 3500 last year. I will say though that getting the original parts back will be fun. Also unfucking what ever wiring he did could be a not so fuck experience. There are of course quarks with the car, but what one doesn't.

>>15530922
oh, so is it tough to DIY a timing belt on this? I have a degree in automotive technology but I still haven't been able to get a fucking job and I kinda gave up on that idea. fug.

also, have you ever had any experience with the power sunroof? on my test drive today I opened it and it wouldn't stay closed. also, the power doorlocks need work too and stuff like that. oh yea, and the doors don't seem to have any stoppers. so they open to a full 90 degrees from the body.

still, as much of a can of worms as this may seem, I consider it to be something at least I could fix. less so on welding.

>>15530958
The problem comes to getting the timing to run correct as it has a hydraulic variable timer. Which funny enough doesn't work when the car isn't running.

So doing the belt "can" lead to some problems. Usually throwing a CEL. Outside of that it's a straight forward process, there are people who just cut the system out all together, there are parts sold for it.

I don't have a sunroof so can't say, as for the door locks I believe it's age. Recently my passenger side door lock has become very loud. The Doors sound like some sort of silly modification.

It's a good car, plenty of fun to drive. But if your current car works fine there isn't much of a reason to swap out unless you feel like it. After all 3500 could fix a good bit of problems and or future maintenance.

>>15531016
>throwing a CEL
check engine light?
HAHAHA, funny you say that. it actually has that right now but the guy was like 'yea prolly for emissions. its typical'

so I guess the previous owner was a shit and tried doing that himself. wew lad.

>>15531016
>But if your current car works fine there isn't much of a reason to swap out unless you feel like it. After all 3500 could fix a good bit of problems and or future maintenance.
yeah, I actually already have an 84 fifth ave and an 84 rabbit gti. the VW has a lot of underbody rust that I haven't a clue to fix, and the previous owner also fucked the electrical system and I can't grok how to put it back together how it was originally.
and the fifth ave just won't fucking start now. so I'm just kinda bummin about stuff.

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Where I live the Polo is only found with a DSG.
Cheapest to most expensive: Polo GTI < FiST < 208 GTI

Opinions?
I like the look of the Polo and 208 more than the Fiesta (looks kinda fat), the Polo has a nicer interior too imo.
That said, every FiST owner seems to be super happy with theirs and the aftermarket looks good and growing.
Maybe cheaper to own compared to the Polo due to Manuel instad of DSG?

>>15531482
The dsg is horrible. At least the one I test drove was. I didn't look at the Peugeot desu.

I'm satisfied with the ST though. Its great fun.

Hey guys, lookingbinto buying a 2011 2012 fiesta (in the states). Anyone have experience or knowledge on SADEV awd systems? Would love to do this as a project but not sure if it is feasable. Thinking of going duratec instead of ecoboost, too.

>>15523639
a floaty bringer of understeer

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getting a much needed wash on sunday, then taken out to some twisties on monday

I'm thinking of buying a Focus ST, am I going to regret not stepping up to the RS or downsizing to the ST?

>>15531738
very nice. does yours have the aluminium bonnet?

>>15531829
get a Focus ST and put a bigger turbo on it. makes even better

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I like my MazdaSpeed3.

>Plenty of power with more to unlock
>Handles pretty well for its size/weight
>Plenty of space for people and things (also comfortable)
>Plenty of mods out on the market to have fun

My first mod was a set of lightweight wheels. Next up is probably the rear motor mount and Cobb AP. I'm not planning on ridiculous power, just enough to have a little extra fun.

>>15531840
nope. only the phase 1 172's had that, if i remember correctly

>tfw 1 more year till i can finally get a fiesta st

>>15531913
it looked like a phase 1 from the back to me :|

>>15531879
i looked into them but they seem to attract lots of vapelord fuccbois here in socal so they're a no-go.

>>15531879
Aren't fuel pump internals the first thing to replace on those?

>>15521622
>>15522609
some questions for you fiesta fags.
>Can you put down the rear seats and sleep in the back?
>How much ground clearance does it have and how well could it handle offroad situations?

>>15532847
I wouldnt particularly want to sleep back there, but I suppose it's possible if you're short.

Ground clearance is quite high stock, the suspension is a little stiff. But otherwise it goes pretty well off road.

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Anyone tried the new Clio RS EDC?
It's cheaper than a Golf GTI, but I feel it's more in the lower tier along with Fiesta, Polo, etc.

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Planing on buying a Opel(Vauxhall) Astra OPC 2012-15.
Test drove it yesterday, and holy shit it was fun.

Just need to sell my current one, and we´re good to go.

>>15522055
It's a Honda.

>>15534078
fucking hell, looks like the lexus "modern car design" shop.

>>15534078

>automatic only

if you're considering buying this, you're a retard.

>buying an automatic sportscar

"but it's faster, you don't understand"

if you only care about speed, why don't you buy an E39 M5 or an E92 M3 instead ? it's cheaper and way faster, and more fun to drive than a fucking FWD automatic renault clio

the only good clio is the MK2 renaultsport. and only if you spend less than 2000 euros on it by buying i in the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qgBs00Lsfs

BUENO

>>15534280
I'm not considering it, just wondering what's up with it since I've been checking the current available hot hatches.

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No Leon Cupra R's?

Fiesta ST with MR230, or Focus ST with MR300, which would be more fun?

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>want Miata at first
>determine it's too impractical
>want old car afterwards
>let the thought of going slow grow on me and search for old cars for months
>see hot hatch general
>think about hot hatches and going zippy in a practical car
>suddenly want a hot hatch
>most of them look like sports shoes, still have the awful fucking plastic city car interior of the model they're based on, and give off a boyracer image

>>15534392
I'm tempted to get the MR230 for my FiST desu

>>15534380
03 plate, 2003? Fuck has it been that long? I used to like the old Leon

>>15523123
I have an RS and can confirmed, its like the ST

Do you guys think the new Mazda 3 is hot-hatchable with the 2.5L engine? Apparently it's fun to drive, and 220ish HP should be achievable without FI.

>>15534507
Compacts with 130 hp were hot hatches 20 years ago. 220 hp is a massive amount in compact cars in real life unless you're spoiled by reading about sports car power figures on the internet all day.

>>15531829
Does AWD really matters to you? If not save the money, get the ST. Bigger turbo like other anon said. Also RS MPG is horrible, 20mpg average. And a 12 gallon tank is too little.

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>>15534527
what's the verdict on this?

>>15534542
It's just a Golf in a fancy suit.

>>15534542
Idk, im american. Never drove one or researched about one

>>15534542
I don't like the way German cars drive, but god damn does the Scirroco look good.

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>>15529491
Hi

>>15531482
ST will be the most fun, especially in the twisties. Peugeot will be the fastest, and it's still fun.
Polo with DSG is basically the car you buy if you are a boring twat with no taste.

>>15534542
Get the Leon Cupra R. Same car but cheaper, and better handling because it's not built to be "comfy" with supple (shit) suspension like the VW.

>>15534669
Ah. Well im planning on getting >>15534252

>>15534691
Brand new? Get the Leon Cupra 290, then. It's a Golf R but without the heavy loldex system. It is a much better car than the Astra, and it doesn't cost much more.

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>>15534691
if you have that much to spend can't you get something a little more... interesting?

>>15534971
No, used. And the are hardly any cupras for sale where im at. Also looks, which imo the Seat is to much >angry face

>>15534982
And you suggests a Escort? or do you have something newish in mind?

>>15523555
It's okay senpai, I don't have them in my FiST

>>15534982
Blue board, m8

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>>15535031
Nothing wrong with an escort cosworth mate, at least after you're bored of it you can get all your money back - try that with the Astra.
I'm not going to do your car shopping for you, but you seem to have some money and you only know what you like.
It seems you've not really given it much thought. No offence.
Did you only drive shitboxes till now to be blown way by an astra?

>>15531482
Fist is rated at 180ish ft lbs, dynos at 220 torks to the wheels

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>>15535136
you like scat?

>>15535161
Nah, BMW´s Volvos, Minis(shitboxes indeed) etc. My ocupation lets me test cars of all newer kinds.

But when i say i want a newish car, i mean 2010 or later. So i Cosworth, which is indeed impressive, and you can tune it to hell, i frankly want something newer.

>>15535176
What's your budget, fampaitachi?

hey anons, I posted some asking about the focus SVT earlier in the thread. looks like I'm going ahead with this. $2900 after trade-in. think its all a pretty good deal?

>>15534542
Worth it if looks are your most important criteria. I absolutely love mine. It's so good. But if you only care about speed/racing, then there are better alternatives, objectively stats wise. For me imo it's the best looking modern car ever made so I'm super biased.