What year did automatics stop being shit?

2011

>>15489912
The year automated manuals were marketed as "automatic"
>b-b-but mah semantics

they never sucked

stock valvebodies and untuned electronically controlled autos do however

>>15489912
2008.

>VW launched the 7 speed transverse DSG
>Audi/Porsche launched the longitudinal PDK/DSG
>ZF launched the 8HP
>Ferrari got ready to ditch the F1
In summary, DCT's became widely adopted, TC automatics got more speeds and driver control with the industry-wide release of the ZF 8HP, and single clutch electrohydraulic sequentials were largely ditched.

>>15489927
>they never sucked
>stock valvebodies and untuned electronically controlled autos do however
Torque converters have always been garbage.

>>15489912
Whatever year they stopped using slushbowls. As soon as they came with clutches, and or CVT trans.

>>15489912
When they became electronically controlled. Any other answer is wrong.

>>15489912
since dual clutches

>>15489912
When DSG could make shifts faster than a half second.

>>15489955
>Torque converters have always been garbage.
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>>15490176
You guys have clearly never driven a modern TC automatic.

>>15490171
No, the first years of electronically controlled gearboxes (like early tiptronic) were shit.

>>15490457
Which is approximately all of DSG's lifetime.

>>15491299
No, they weren't. INVECS-II works great.

>>15491324
Also electronic control really has nothing to do with that.

>>15489912
1939

people pretend standards are good because it makes them feel important like they have an important job to do

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>>15489912
In 1985

>>15489912
2003

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>>15489912
The automatic in the tt mk4 supra was actually good lol.

>>15492721
>twin turbo car
>automatic

I don't understand this, you don't buy a performance car like this for city driving (the main reason you would get an automatic) you buy it for the track or tearing up the twisties. How would the automatic even hold a candle to the manual? What makes it "actually good"????

>>15492731
Supras have always been comfy GT's and traditionally offered with automatics.

Highway blasting is what they do best, not necessarily ripping twisty's.

whats up with autos getting away from column shift? it bugs the shit out of me when an auto is pretending to be a manual with a floor shifter.

>>15491299
which ones are modern? how do i know?

>>15492847
You know because it's electronically controlled.

>>15492845
Column shift is the worst. It's just an /o/ meme, the real world has decided they're trash.

Some did, Some autos never sucked. Drag racing produces more consistent E/Ts with an auto. Autos also don't disconnect power from the wheels between gears. In an automatic the threat of missing a shift is gone. Reliability? Ever hear of the 2 speed powerglide or the ford C6?

the automatics found in 3rd gen camrys are pretty reliable. I still see third gen camrys on the road, even in nice neighboorhoods (driven by old people of course)

>>15489955
>Torque converters have always been garbage.
Stally's are based

Get good

>>15492873
the 3 vehicles i have are all column and i cant stand the rav 4 beng in the floor

>>15489912
never

>>15494168
It's an /o/ meme.

>>15492820

Thats because Supras are pigfat.