Flawless cars

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no

>>15424651
>>15424651
Sure enough I love both these cars.

>>15424651
Nah I hate it

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>>15424651
The answer is a Volvo 240

>>15424678
care to explain why?
or is it just summer

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>>15424665
>rt10

not the

>gts
step it up senpai

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>>15424665
http://oppositelock.kinja.com/most-honest-viper-craigslist-ad-ever-1782809075

Is it really that dangerous?

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>>15424651
>E30
Btfo by FF corollas
>>15424665
>snek
Ugly turd

No thanks

>>15424716
>>15424716
not really. I test drove one. if you are used to not having abs and trac control, you'll be fine. very torquey however, and feels like the car is ripping itself apart at high rpms

S2000

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>>15424683

>>15424701

The old RT/10 is much sexier and rarer than the GTS.

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>>15424651
nope

>>15424683
Old Mercedes are better than any Volvo crap

>>15424665
>>15424701
Personally I like these cars but I know there are definitely people on this board who hate them.
Basically just eurocucks though.

>>15424720
>posts pic of corolla holding up an M3

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>>15424799
Nah. Thats not how it went.

>>15424805
>posts pic of corolla holding up mazda and peugeot
pls stop anon :(

>>15424805
>grocery getter touring cars are identical to their street car versions

i hate this meme

just because your accord was featured in some obscure touring car championship 20 years ago doesn't make your mom's 1995 accord ex in any way similar outside of the body panels

do you know how much different is between those corolla/accord/etc touring cars and the street car?

>>15424819
average bench racer here

>>15424720
BLUE FLAG!

>>15424839
hi

>>15424651

>subject on e30's

>uses an M3 which is a unobtainable and completely different car from the 3 series e30.

damn op, you stupid.

>>15424924
It IS an E30 though...

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>>15424924
an E30 is an E30 . The handling chassis and refinement is legendary. This is coming from someone who has driven 991's NSX's and owned a R32 GTR, I would happily trade any of them for a 318i. They were that fucking good

>>15424924
there is jack all difference between an m3 and a standard e30. they didn't get massive makeovers just small changes that added up

>>15424924
>uses an M3 which is a unobtainable and completely different car from the 3 series e30.

Unobtainable yes, however No its not that radically different, and there is a robust enough aftermarket to make a base E30 out stop out run and out handle an E30 M3.

>>15424769
I always figured it'd be assmad GTR benchracers

>>15424665
>V10
>6l
wowee oh wait
>pushrod fucking valves
>PUSHROD FUCKING OHV
>first gen only made 400hp

American engineering at it's finest. What a "supercar"

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23 MILLION

>>15425982
except the engine was designed by Lamborghini

>>15424665
>[melts paint externally]

>>15426330

...You mean Lamborghini took a Chrysler design and made it somewhat powerful?

>>15426367
Man you really are hurt by this aren't you?

>nobody has said Supra yet

/o/ loves the Supra, and so do I.

Also NSX.

>>15426375
I love that Accord V6 in the NSX!

>>15424651
I hate BMWs in general.

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>>15426381
Was your step father a BMW? Did he beat you?

>>15426368
I am not the same person, nor could I care less.

The answer is the Mazda 3, btw.

>>15426330
The block was designed by Lamborghini because Chrysler owned Lambo at the time. So It was likely cheaper to have a super car builder (that you own) build a super car engine. Jezz troll, its not rocket science.

>>15426399
So.... what your saying is.... it was designed by lamborghini?

>>15425982
Since the viper was half or a quarter of the price as these cars, I think it did all right.
1992 Dodge Viper, 8.0 V10. 400Bhp, 465 ft/lbs torque. Curb weight 3284 ibs.

1992 Ferrari Testarossa, 4.9 flat 12. 428 hp, 362 ft/lb torque. Curb weight 3,650 lb

1992 Porsche 964 Turbo S, 3.3 turbocharged flat six. 376 hp, 361 lb/ft torque. Curb weight 3241 Lbs

1992 Lamborghini Diablo, 5.7 V12, 492 hp, 428 ib/ft torque. Curb weight 3,474 lbs

>>15426392
>cuck wheel drive

Are you even trying?

>>15424651
Too front heavy if you want to give them power, too small inside for 6'3+

>>15424768
This guy knows!

>>15426377
>pretending the NSX is the same as the Accord

You can lie to others all you want, but it's only truly sad when you lie to yourself.

>>15426405
The block was thats it. If they didn't own Lambo they would have done it themselves. They let Lambo do it because they had the experience and Lambo was owned by Chrysler.

>>15426405
>A block is 100% of the engine
Retard, you do know why JZ and 4AGE are so good, right?
It's the Yamaha heads. Nobody gives a shit about the blocks.

>>15426412
>needs 8 liters to get similar power to a 3.3

America ladies and gentlemen.

>>15426427
Retard what are the heads and the camshafts? The block isn't them. Do I need to google an image for you?

>>15426430
Look up the price of the Porshe and compare it to the Viper.

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>>15424651
Nope, dont care for it.
Shark nose is best BMW.

>>15426405
Only the block. The superior push rods were designed in the US, or Canada, or Germany, or Brazil, or...

>>15426431
No, because that's irrelevant to displacement/hp. If the viper (which don't get me wrong I do like, probably more than the Porsche) was twice the price, do you think it would have a smaller engine? I don't think so.

Who cares of it used pushrods or not. Ford built DOHC tank engines in the forties, it not new science. Power and reliability can be had from either overhead cam or valves.

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>>15426265

>>15426458
Ok. I guess what I am saying is displacement is irrelevant when compared to the whole package of the car. You don't drive just the engine. Could I been smaller yea Probably. But Power comes 3 ways- displacment, power adder, or $$$$$.

>>15426508
The torque the 8.0 produces is insane, and would be the reason I would hands down choose it every time over the Porsche 3.3.

>60 posts
>ctrl + f: twingo
>0 results

>>15426859
let this meme die, it's not funny.

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>>15426896
>american mad that he can't have twingos
It's okay my fat friend, one day you'll move to Yurop and buy one for as little as $200.
This BTW is the flawless car in the shitbox class.

>>15426896
shut up, furfaggot.

>>15426859
you're way too late, see: >>15424768

>>15424665
Shit specific output, flammable heat shielding.

>>15426912
Only good twingo is modern twingo.

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>>15427029
No.

>>15426912
yuro here, even in the shitbox class it's a shitbox. the car is pure meme.

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>>15427106
You have 5 seconds to name a better shitbox at the same price point.

>>15426392
>nor could I care less

it's couldn't care less

couldn't

>>15427218
>What does "nor" mean?

>>15427106
It's the shitbox to end all shitboxes, and plays that role perfectly.

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>>15424651

>>15428120

Wowowowowowow

My penis can only get so erect

>>15424769
I like them in the sense that I want to admire them from a safe distance

>>15424716
It's capable of putting itself into unrecoverable situations very very easily.

A ton of torque means tons of acceleration from anywhere in the rpm range. That combined with zero driver aids and very high limits, you're likely to fuck up, and be north of 100mph when you do so.

the E30 325i was BTFO by a KIA Cee'd on Top Gear a few years back

>>15428221
>benchracing
Also sports cars are more than just speed

>>15424651
most overrated shitbox in history

>>15424665
complete garbage car with playskool interior

>>15428243
>E30
>Sports car

top fucking kek

>>15428270
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>>15428274

if you think an E30 is a sports car you might as well start calling Civics Corollas and neons as sports cars

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>>15428305
>e30 fanboys

wew

>>15426430
>361 is similar to 465


Kys

>>15428120
why this car look so good. it shouldnt. its an old ass car. but looking good.

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>>15428648
>it shouldnt. its an old ass car.

What did he mean by this?

>>15428664
He just outed himself as a pleb, basically.

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Fiat Punto.
every generation.

>>15428903
fucking shitskins
kill yourself for the benefit of society

>>15424651
Glorified shitbox

>>15424683
>>15424743
Hispter shitbox, 740 was better all around because galvanized body, perfect balance between fuck all to break and fucntional

>>15424768
>>15426912
>>15427096
The Twingo is infact a fucking terrible car to own.

>>15426265
These too were quite fucking bad, but at least they were cheap.

>>15428903
You know what they say about Fiats. Found on Road Dead

>>15428948
edgy

>>15428762
but as a joke?

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>>15428948
>The Twingo is infact a fucking terrible car to own.
Nice arguments there pal

>>15425038
there is enough aftermarket to make a saturn ion out run and out stop an e30 m3 too. I fail to see the point.

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>Liars will say they hate this.

Not everyone may LOVE it, but everyone at least respects it. Also how about the Lancia Stratos? We can agree it was unreliable and all, but don't most car guys love it?

cars are shit

>>15429115
>Stratos
now THAT's a meme car

>>15428973
If you wish

>>15429044
They were just extremely point a to point b shitboxes, the very reason cash 4 clunkers was so harsh on them is because they had fuckall value.
They were just little more than a box with 4 wheels and an anemic pushrod piece of shit of an engine.

>>15429186
Have you ever owned one?
>anemic pushrod piece of shit of an engine
Do you really think you need more than 75hp to commute around in an 800kg shitbox? What about all these Twingos on mobile.de that have over 300 and 400k kms?
Mine was a '93 with 211k km and I had ZERO problems with the engine (Cleon Fonte 55hp), didn't even burn oil whatsoever between changes. Do you think that I would have been able to travel literally half of Europe in a car with an unreliable piece of shit engine?
They were decently comfortable (all French cars are), spacious for a car of this size, could even sleep in it thanks to foldable front as well as rear seats.
Can you name at least one car that is better for the price?

>>15429393
Actually yes, I have owned one. Was a dark purple one I bought from a friend with extremely low mileage. Other problem with the car was poor performance in cold conditions and rust, the floor rusts through in one or two proper winters.
Only redeeming thing about the car is the foldable seats, that's about it.
Other good or even better cars for the price would be a god damn Corolla or a Civic. Leave the shitboxes to the japs.
THere's also cars like the Ford Fiesta, Focus, Ka and other Ford shitboxes.

>>15432063
Correct answer.

>>15432677
>Correct answer.

its fwd tho

>>15432696
That didn't stop it from winning races and championships.

>>15432701
yeah but its fwd

nobody loves fwd

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>>15432703
Nobdy loves dictators either, but everyone loves Hitler!

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>>15424651

e30 alone? no

the closest /o/ has ever hiveminded was way back when there was the holy shitbox trinity of e30 / miata / foxbody mustang

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>>15426381
Beep Beep

>>15432750
There isn't even a CEL because it would be on all the time

>>15432750
Understeering front-heavy pig, but I don't care because it sounds fucking amazing.