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what is /o/s favorite brand/model of oil filter? also please give your justifications.

purolator user here looking for a change since finding out some have media tearing issues. Looking for a comparable cheap/good filter
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i like the K&N one since it has a little bolt-like thing embedded into the bottom of it so you can loosen it with a socket
i like it for my car since my oil filter is between the engine block and the frame so its impossible to loosen with a filter wrench
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Wix/purolator gold seem to be the gold standard.

Personally, I've gone mostly between purolator (mainly the one in the op pic) and Ford filters for my jeep. They have good filter medium (iirc, Ford uses purolator filters) and they are about $5 at walmart. Unfortunately, Walmart seems to be dropping purolator and using super tech filters now (lol) So I might start buying wix filters in bulk online. There's a filter store online that has decent deals, just can't think of the name atm.
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>>15224388
>bolt-like thing
It's a freaking 1" nut!
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>>15224388
Don't they sell oil filter caps with the nut on the end? Unless you like spending $11-13 per meme filter.
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>>15224417
whatever its called
im a diesel mechanic too haha
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>>15224424
i usually get that and oil for $25
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others need not apply
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>>15224459
Don't the Motorcraft filters have antidrain back ends? I was using the Motorcraft, actually, the fl-1a iirc, but I read that they do/don't have a drain back and it wasn't the best for my vehicle.
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>>15224437
What oil?
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I just use the subaru brand :/

They are probably fine.
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>>15224483
i cant remember some synthetic oil
i honestly dont care im selling it soon i was just using it as a DD to drive to college and back but now im done
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>>15224412
that's another reason Im looking for something different. For anyone who still looking for purolators though some Pureones are carried at kmart and white purolators + pureones are available at pepboys.

any reason to stay away from AC Delco filters?
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Been getting Mann and Bosch filters from Rockauto lately. German. I used to think that was cool, but their shit cars have convinced me to go with something else next time.
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How exactly do you guys measure an oil filter's effectiveness? Some of you are very passionate about it i seriously doubt its causing any sort of noticeable effect on performance.
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>>15224532
Lol fucking this
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OEM filters.
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>>15224388
You should be able to take filters off with your hands. If you can't, it's to tight.
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whats the deal with the new purolator boss filters
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>>15224532
Filter surface area/material and quality of construction.
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>>15224663
You're aware a lot of cars don't have the filter in a spot you can apply a lot of torque with your bare hands right? I hand tighten mine but by the time I need to change it, it's impossible to get off by hand.
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>>15224374
Motorcraft, my mustang feels better with the original oem filter.
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>>15224724
Now when you say better, do you mean placebo effect wise or in some actually measurable capacity?
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Bosch or OEM
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bosch or oem for almost anything
fram for anyone who asks me to do their oil
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>>15224374
I used Ford Motorcraft because of reasons.
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>>15224724
I.. I wish mine had the heated seats desu. I agree with the filter feels though >>15224796
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>>15224663
this mate

changed filter today
Previous owner had that on tighter than OPs grips cocks
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>>15224663
Dis.
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>>15224775
May be a placebo but the engines feels less rough and smoother.
>>15224813
I wish i had the nav system desu, do you take care of your leather seats though? I don't know what conditioner/cleaner would work best.
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>>15224374
>Not being a MANN
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>>15224524
Bosch makes some pretty fucking quality products
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>>15224813
>I can FEEL the oil circulating through my engine block!
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>>15224532
there's a good image somewhere of about 15 diffrent oil filters cut open so you can see the filter material and vavling
cba to find it tho, someone on here deffinatly has it.
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Tokyo roki filters for my Subaru. (rx8 filters at Mazda)
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Purflux, always. MANN if no stocks.
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Motorcraft on everything I own, including both Fords, my Honda, Mazda, and Jeep because I work at the dealer.
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Mahle (OEM) on my BMW
Kawasaki OEM on my Kawi Bike
Ford Motorcraft (it's probably a rebranded Purolator) in my Civic
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>>15224663

My mechanic recommended this too, so I tightened it by hand and drove 20 miles, the filter came loose and was dumping shit everywhere.

I always put a good extra 1/2 turn on it with a filter wrench. It's always a bit tighter when you go to get it off, but as long as you lube the seal it's not difficult.
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>>15224663
>hand tighten filter on
>making sure to lube the seal
>time comes to change oil again
>it takes me 45 minutes to remove the filter because the cunt is siezed on there
>had to puncture it with a screw driver and hammer and just turn, turn turn

This has happened to me two times I've have to change oil. Tried multiple filter wrenches and it always twists and crushes the filter.
>>15224388
Have not had a single problem using K&N. if $15 a filter means it'll save me 45 minutes of puncturing, hammering, and chiseling away at the filter while making a complete fucking mess under my hood and of myself, then so be it.
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BILTEMA

gold standard of Scandinavia
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>>15225787
>he cant decipher his enginefu's internal friction levels simply through feeling and hearing it running
normie pls go
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>>15224374
OEM. Why bother with anything else?
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Mobil1 4 lyfe
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>>15226519
Because some oem filters use Fram medium paper, so you might as well save the markup price and buy a fram
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>>15226540
The only example I've seen was with Mopar filters, but I can't imagine other manufacturers not outsourcing the medium material to save on costs.
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>>15225274
I've only had it a few months but I did wipe them down with some Armor All leather seat wipes once. Figured I'd try to do that a few times a year. I do like the nav system, that and flowmaster axle backs were the only mods the previous owner did on the car before I bought it.
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Whatever is the cheapest filter.

No sense in buying expensive ass filters if you're not a lazy shitbag and change your oil frequently.
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>>15226686
>change your oil frequently
How much miles
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>>15226723
I change my oil every 5k using the expensive Dexos shit. So any money I can save on oil changes is good.
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I usually buy whatever the parts store brand is, if you look at the construction on the inside a lot of them are actually rebranded Wix or Mobil. Frams are garbage because their filter elements are crumpled up toilet paper rolls
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>>15226743
>expensive Dexos shit
Is it fully synthetic?
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>>15224374
MANN
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>>15226746
I've seen the FRAM filters opened up and they're pretty much cardboard, but my dad used FRAM filters on his '98 Escort and never had an issue. Survived til 200k and it was beaten and rusted to shit by then.
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>>15226752
Yes, my car takes 8.1qts of oil too so.. Oil changes get pricey for me.
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>>15224663
Mine always seems to vacuum on like a fucking bastard and breaking the seal by hand is borderline impossible
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>>15226764
>my car takes 8.1qts
Why not just fill it with 8 and save the cost of the that pricey dexos quart?
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>>15226807
I usually buy 2 5qt jugs of oil and save the remaining oil for the next change. Love my 6.0L engine but damn does it need so much oil.
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>>15225293
are these good?
i always get these from the car parts shop here.
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>been using the cheap orange Fram filters for years with Mobil 1
>oil comes never comes out disgusting pitch black

I did get a Bosch last time though. I don't want to risk it. I saw that oil filter cutaway and got spooked.
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>>15224532
>How exactly do you guys measure an oil filter's effectiveness? Some of you are very passionate about it i seriously doubt its causing any sort of noticeable effect on performance.

Industry has codified standards for oil filters. Thus, the filter effectiveness rating is comparable not just between different filters but between different brands from different companies.

As part of the measurement, they have volumetric oil flow rates at which measurements are performed. It is oil flow and not pressure that makes oil an effective lubricant. Filters are tested against standardized mixtures of laboratory grade "dirt". This material has uniform measured diameters.

For example, Fram ExtraGuard is their low end filter with a 95% against 22 micron dirt, ToughGuard is 99%, and their extreme best is 97%. You say 97% is worse, but you are ignoring oil flow. At the end of filter life (or if the user doesn't change a filter for 3 years (wow,you suck), the 99 filter is plugged up while the 97 still allows some oil flow while getting rid of the big particles and letting some of the small 22 microns thru. It's a also a matter of design perspectives for certain filter customers because a totally plugged filter opens the bypass valve!

A factory picture tour and explanation about Fram filters is at:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/eating-crow-fram-oil-filters-my-visit-fram-s-r-d-facility-dayton-ohio-1261517/

Picture: if people park in front of your house and live their for weeks and toss trash on your yard, do you confront them? The city law says the vehicle must move every 72 hours and they do that 10 feet or so at a time back and forth and satisfy the legal technicality. But they still remain more or less in front of your house. Wat do?
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>>15224532
Purolator PureOne is basically one of the top top filters and is now what I use.

OIL FILTER COMPARISONS -
http://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-engine-turbo-drivetrain/637158-official-oil-filter-testing-results-thread-4g63t-4b11t.html
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>>15227297
>OIL FILTER COMPARISONS
>A FRAM will have a nominal micron rating around 33-40μm depending on the filter

That comparison data is old. Fram is at the 22μm spec.
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>>15226412
this.

>>15226977
I made something like this a month ago(pic related)
Great minds think alike.
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>>15226823
My 3.6L H6 engine needs 7 quarts.

Kill me now.
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>>15224374
OEM is my favorite
I use it on my civic
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>>15226823
The Ford 6.0 diesel? You should be able to get more then 5k out of an oil change with 8 quarts of oil. More quarts should mean less dilution and shear.
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>>15224663
Spends of you can get ur hand on the filter to tighten.

I can't in my little corolla so I use a wrench and turn it 1/4 turn past snug.

Nevwr has an issue with leaks or getting it off
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Wix and Fram Ultras are my current favorites. For what it's worth, I routinely put el cheapo purolators, fram orange cans, microguards, and quaker state filters on friends' cars tho and they don't have a problem. The anti drainback valves on fram extra guards are a joke tho, so I don't use them if the filter is mounted sideways. Otherwise every morning the engine will have a dry start.
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>>15230474
What's a bit disturbing is when I take a Fram filter out of the package. They have dust and tiny bits of rubber grit and paper grit, and even grime on them. I suppose the filter will catch it eventually, a lot of that trashy grit is on the engine-side of the filter. That means those bits of rubber and paper will have to go thru the engine first before they come back to the filter to be trapped out.
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>>15230474
>The anti drainback valves on fram extra guards are a joke tho, so I don't use them if the filter is mounted sideways

If the Fram ExtraGuard filter (nitrile rubber seal, not silicone rubber) is at the bottom, wouldn't there be plenty of oil down there in the first place? So the filter wouldn't really empty out unless the filter was higher up in the car. I'm using Fram ToughGuard in my car with synthetic oil.

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Fram filter factory tour & explanations:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/eating-crow-fram-oil-filters-my-visit-fram-s-r-d-facility-dayton-ohio-1261517/
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Usually buy motorcraft
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WIX 51061 in a crate GM 350.
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whats wrong with fram?
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>>15231264
The toughguards hold oil inside them just fine since they have a silicone anti drainback valve. For whatever reason, the orange frams just leak all the oil back into the oil pan after a while if the filter is on its side.
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>>15231264
At least Fram dips the top of their filters so that you can hand-tighten the filter or remove them by hand if you get a good grip on them. But without a lift at home, I am not going to try getting under the car.
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>>15233105
Just park so the front of your car hangs over a curb.
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>>15225293
This
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>>15233115
>Just park so the front of your car hangs over a curb.

The edge of the car ranges from 6 inches off the ground at the front to 7.5 inches off the ground at the rear. The curb still wouldn't give enough room. We also not allowed streetside parking and some Teen Hooners around the corner would smack my car thus causing it to scrape over me. Teen Drivers speed and assume no cars park on the curved road and thus speed under the assumption everyone else (other than that teen) is following the rules. Thus, my parked car would be hit. It would move. I would be crushed.
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>>15234213
Get a floor jack and jack stands. Statistically speaking, you are safer under the car than in it.
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>>15226375
This. I always make the filters as tight as I possibly can by hand. I'd rather have peace of mind knowing that it won't unscrew itself on the highway, and I have plenty of good filter removal tools.
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