Why are Chrysler and GM such shit manufacturers?

>>15184133
Ford the worst desu. The only thing they actually make is trucks and mustangs. Every other car in their line up is made by another company.

>>15184133
>chrysler
>shit

bad meme

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Chrysler/Dodge have their moments

>>15184153
Holy fuck that car looks gorgeous in Purple.

>>15184148
I'd prefer Ford badged Mazdas and Volvos over Chevrolet badged Daewoos famalam.

>>15184355

ford badged mazdas? examples?

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>>15184378

>>15184378
Probe

>>15184378
Pretty much every ford car is a mazda or volvo or both.

>>15184396
Nice Mazda 121

>>15184378
While a number of Fords have used Mazda-derived platforms, Ford hasn't really taken badge engineering to the level that GM did.

>>15184133
Anti-competition legislation, in the US it's very strong in the automobile market

>>15184449

I know the MZR is ecoboost, but I was wondering what Ferds were straight Mazdas.

>>15184484
The Probe was an MX-6 with a bodykit, and the mk4 Fiesta was a straight up Mazda 121 rebadge.

There may be more.

please name some ford volvos. mazdas i know of, volvo?

>>15184582
The 2nd gen Focus ST and RS used a Volvo engine.

>>15184484
Ecoboost is mzr
Get it right
>>15184582
Focus chassis is volvo
Some of the bigger cars too. Like fusion i think.

>>15184517
Going the other direction, North American Mazda B-series mid-size pickup trucks from 1994-2010 were rebadged Ford Rangers.

>>15184624
Yeah ford got butt blasted about mazda competing. So the US got boned while the rest world got awesome mazdas

>>15184668
Ford Rangers were great little trucks, what are you on about?

>>15184677
Not as good as mazdas

>>15184133

Government bail outs.

>>15184378
Like half of their fucking lineup

My 2009 focus had a 2.0 Ford Duratech which is actually a Mazda L engine.

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GM is the only shit here

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>>15187219
>the bac mono uses an ecoboost engine
CHRYSLER BTFO!!!!!

>>15187219
>Dodge is cool
>Posts pic of car that is only worth mentioning.
ACR is cool but still others are shit from their lineup. They always are expectedly on the bottom of every chart regarding anything.

>>15184618
wrong wrong and wrong. the only thing you got slightly right is that the taraus not fusion is based off of a volvo.

>>15184687
not really. the ranger fit the slot perfectly that the f150 left open for the us market. try harder

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>>15188957
Correct. The fusion was mazda

>>15184153
>>15187219
Can't Shake the Snake

>>15184133
>has to call twin turbo "ecoboost" so normies will buy it
fuck this gay earth

>>15184148
Are any current Fords anywhere in the world re-badges by another manufacturer?

The Volvo and Mazda partnerships are long gone. All I can think of is the Ranger (being much the same as the B-series), but I think it's largely a Ford design.

>>15188978
see
>>15187231

>>15189370
...referring to the current world Ranger/B-series.

>>15188978
can't deck the snek

>>15187219

>8.4 liter V10
>only 645 hp

why are Americans so shit at making engines? a european manufacturer would get you 900hp out of that engine easily

>>15190261
Europeans helped develop that very engine.

>>15190261
And it costs a tenth of what that 900hp engine wold

>>15190295
i'm not aware of a more powerful v10 coming from Europe

>>15190261
Yeah and there's a reason nearly every European manufacturer has a reputation for unreliability. American cars have shit build quality, but their drivetrains are usually pretty strong. Especially when it's a truck engine.