WHY the fuck does the r35s R38DETT weigh 608 lbs? I dont get

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>what is a turbocharger, piping and front differential mated to the oilpan

lurk moar

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>>15157555
608lbs not including any intercoolers or piping.

>>15157560
>not including 15 lbs

>>15157570
>not including 15 lbs
lol wut?

>>15157560
>reverse google search
>http://www.2009gtr.com/2008/02/vr38dett-engine-weight.html
> This is the full engine with the first set of catalytic converters/turbo outlet pipes attached

>search VR in wikipedia
>Fully equipped with the first set of catalytic converters, turbos, all of the engine driven accessories, front differential assembly, and turbo outlet pipes, the engine weighs 608 lb (276 kg)

its summer after all

>>15157605
that's still more than a fully dressed Big block from the 1970s
why is is so damn heavy?

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>>15157617
>doesn't understand the engine has the whole front differential assembly to it, along with all the pipes, unlike a the big block that was just weighted as a longblock

boy it's sure is summer

>>15157536
Helps explain why the GT-R is 4000lbs

>>15157632
that still doesn't explain why it's heavier than a blown V8 senpai.

intercoolers are very light
diff is only 35lbs

>>15157647
>intercoolers and piping are light
>differentials are 35lbs

its okay, we understand you are retarded, no need to keep trying

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>tall
>big
>heavy
>drinks gas worse than most v8s
>low redline due to layout imbalance, and turbos
>has to be built in a hermetically sealed cuck shed, so that the nipponese semen used to glue it together can be folded a million times.
>all to make 600hp

What is this good for again? Might as well go turbo 4 banger. Just as stressed, and better fuel economy and weight, if you're limited by displacement.

>>15157536
It's made with space metal and Nipponese blood magic.

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The Viper engine use to weigh around 700 or even 800 lbs when it was first used.

It has since been cut down to around 650 lbs (using aluminum) Even with the old heavy Iron block engine the first gen vipers still weighed around 3,200 lbs which just shows how incredibly fucking lightweight the chassis was.

C5 vette weighed around 3,100 lbs at its lightest (c5z trim) its engine was nowhere near as heavy as the iron-block viper's. Even now with the latest gen Viper's engine being much heavier overall than the Corvette's the Viper still weighs less (just a hair over 3400 lbs compared to the C7Z's 3500)

I wonder just how much more extreme the Viper would be if they could somehow cut the engine's weight down even more (to GM small-block levels of weight) while still achieving the same level of power.

Also op considering the gtr beats just about every car being sold currently with better fuel economy, why the fuck does it matter?

And no you're not going to swap a vr38 into anything you benchracing faggot

>>15157653
literally have a medium sized intercooler in my garage, shit is only 18lbs

you aren't answering my question.


>>15157656
you mean 500 Hp on 91 octane
545 on 93
600 on 98

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> Benchracers hating on the GTR while they own a Dodge Neon tier shitbox and are supreme enthusiasts

Never change /o/

>>15157658
the Viper's new 8.4L v10 weights 601lbs

that's twice the displacement and the same weight.

>>15157667
>literally have a medium sized intercooler in my garage, shit is only 18lbs
Timestamp of intercooler on scale.

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>>15157656
well thats usually what it takes in order to build an engine that doesn't explode after 6 miles

>>15157667
yeah dude, your intercooler is the same twin intercooler found in the GTR

>>15157670
nice Lexus
my mom also likes those cars.

>>15157670
All the GT-R attracts is benchracing retards. GT-R fanboys ride the bus while GT-R haters are stuck with mom's Camry.

>>15157679
Its worth noting that Car and Driver had that exact same Corvette before Motorcuck got ahold of it for its lightning lap comparo a few weeks before.

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>>15157685
yes, the corvette is unreliable, we get that

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>>15157679
Turning into a fireball is better than overheating apparently

>>15157704
too bad that isnt a GTR

>>15157697
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2015/10/17/Here-s-Why-The-Corvette-Z06-Crapped-Out-On-Motor-Trend-s-Best-Driver-s-Car-Test-7729818/

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>>15157680
Thanks, yeah she told me she liked it last time I took her out in it.
She likes my Benz more though.

>>15157682
/o/ as a whole are benchracing retards lol

>>15157708
i dont think you understand that is irrelevant

the fact that taking your corvette to several track days means it will shit itself on the 4th or 5th track day doesnt help at all

>>15157706
Not a gtr, but the same drivetrain they're going to put into the gtr

stop replying to the stancecuck, dumb summerfags

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>>15157724
I'm guilty for replying to poorfags so it's a two way street :(

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>>15157716
no, there are no news about the new GTR

try again

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>>15157577
MUH BOOST

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>>15157674
I'm not gonna remove the front end, but intercoolers are VERY light.

ur probably a cuck-lord who doesn't even modify cars.

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>>15157732
>two way street

yes, and please, stay on your side of the street gypsy

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>>15157750
As long as you stay on the designated shitting street, spergo

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>>15157758
wat

im not an indian, your post makes no fucking sense shitskin

>>15157734
>next gtr rumored to be hybrid and possibly fwd based
>lmp1 is hybrid and fwd based
>Speaking to TopGear.com, Ben Bowlby - Nissan’s creative genius behind the LMP1 GT-R and the DeltaWing - confirmed that the new GT-R would feature an iteration of the twin-turbo V6 powering the company’s Le Mans entrant.

“The 3.0-litre V6 [from the LMP1 car] is a sort of god-child of the true, road-going GT-R,” he said, noting that the unit’s direction injection, turbo integration and combustion technology are all ‘applicable to the road’.

“It is truly an early ancestor of what will be a future Nissan GT-R engine,” he added.

>>15157758
>Clouded head lights
Way to look poor

>>15157747
also, the R35 intercooler wights 21.164lbs with mounting hardware.
that doesnt explain the 150+lb difference

>>15157773
makes sense, the current V6 is octain limited.
a direct injection version that's hopefully lighter, would help a lot.

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>>15157773
>falling for marketing propaganda

top kek, they aren-t working on the new GTR until 2020

lurk moar

>>15157670
Can tell you never neon acr

>>15157791
what do you mean by Lurk more?
newfag
1st post on this shit thread.

>>15157791
Whatever you say, alphonse

>>15157776
you are a retard anon, congratulations

>>15157806
>every anon that hurt my feelings is alphonse
ok

>>15157741
200cc 2stroke, i think im allowed to post

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>>15157808
your argument is invalid cuck-lord.
you lose

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>>15157841
nice trigger words kid!

one day you will understand how a pair of intercooled turbochargers, exhaust piping and a differential can rake up the weight of an engine up to 150lbs, meanwhile, keep making yourself an ass on the internet

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>>15157856
your argument was proven to be false.
you offer to proof or answers

INVALID
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>>15157841
He doesn't have an argument. You have been posting numbers and asked a simple question, along with posting a time stamped pic of the intercooler you installed.

All he has done is say
>y-you are a r-retard

Confirmed for driving mommies prius

>>15157536
608lbs? isn't it only a v6?
lol wut

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>>15157860
>your argument was proven to be false.
citation needed

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>heavier engine
>still faster

pushrodcucks on suicide watch

>>15157741
I've got an EJ255, can i post?

>>15157658
the viper never had an iron block, it was aluminum from the beginning with the engine weighing just a little over 700lbs.

>>15158007
the first proto block was iron

its just a 10 cyl RB engine after all

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kek, i just arrived. It's amazing how I trigger people without even posting.

>>15158014
sorry, no viper ever sold to the public had an iron block.

happy now, might as well talk about the gtr's with v8s

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>>15158023
my post was not meant to correct you anon, just add info to it

>gtr's with v8
tell me more

>>15158018
do your magic senpai

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>>15157656
>implying the Corvette's engine doesn't have more stress than the GTR's engine

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>>15158014
>its just a 10 cyl RB engine after all

>>15158060
>dayssincecorvetteversusgtr.jpg

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>>15157536
Japanese engineering has always been inferior OP. Those disgusting gooks can't even build good boats much less an engine.

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>>15158094
FTFY

>>15158083
It's based on the Chrysler RB Big-block which first appeared in 1959

>>15158060
>implying a 1.3 liter supercharger heat soaking itself is the same

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>>15158101
>this assmad
>>15158109
>implying overheating and potentially exploding doesn't put stress on an engine

kek, it's time for gm fangirls to get BTFO yet again.

>>15158083
it's actually based on the LA, dont tell anyone i messed up tho

>>15158106
I goofed it's the LA not the RB

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>>15158101
>the only american car faster than the GTR is italian

top kek ameribubblers

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>>15158141
>engine weights nearly a ton
>car is still faster than american sports cars

americucks on suicde watch

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>>15158141
>he deleted his post to avoid getting btfo any harder
GM IS FINISHED!!

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>>15158117
>assmad that a 500 hp """compact""" v6 weighs nearly a tonne

There is ZERO fucking excuse for that shit. Its like nissan engineers scratched their heads and asked "how can we make more power?" And the answer was to add hundreds of pounds of lead weight.

Its fucking garbage

>>15158152
>muh r34
kek, try again.

GM BTFO!!!!!!!!!

>>15158152
And yet it's still ten seconds faster to accelerate a mere 20mph than a even more powerful, "super light" amerishit engine

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>gm fangirls BTFO so hard they stopped replying
Atleast they tried. I wish I could say the same for GM's "engineering" team.

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>>15158151
>absolutely CANNOT TURN
>engine was recycled toyota corolla engine and sounds like a vacuum cleaner
>brakes shatter in half if they get wet
>washing car voids warranty
>using launch control destroys transmission (dat nissan quality) and voids warranty (transmission costs $75,000 btw)
>all wheel drive is for pussies (enjoy ur glorified m8n8van)
>only available with an automatic transmission (SERIOUSLY????)
>weeb magnet


I would rather walk to work barefoot on rusty fucking nails than to be forced to drive such an awful piece of shit on a regular basis. It might have made a quick lap once before exploding, but it's still a truly awful car. It has no redeeming qualities.

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>>15158192
kek

>>15158192
> all this mad because the gtr holds the world record for fastest volume production car
Roflmao

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>>15158167
That's not a fair comparison. The corvette was in 7th gear with a proper manual transmission, but the gtr has an automatic so it just down shifted automatically.

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>>15158192
kek, this retarded hick is triggered hard as fuck

>>15158211
>NO! IT'S NOT FAIR!!

>>15158211
> making up excuses
Maybe if the corvette didn't need three overdrive gears to meet fuel consumption requirements it wouldn't be such a slow pos

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>>15158199
9th is good too I guess? Try staying on the track next time tho

>>15158211
a GTR doesnt downshift on manual mode

you should probably try harder not to look like an agricultural-tier retard

I can only imagine what bench racers are like outside of 4chan

>"Hey anon meet my new girlfriend, Anonette"
>"SHE'S NICE BUT THIS OTHER GIRL IS BETTER BECAUSE HER BRA IS ONE SIZE LARGER"

>"Anon, show some respect please, she's funny and has a great personality"
>"LOL PIGFAT"

>"Calm down dude"
>"BUTHURT LOL"

>"We're leaving"
>"BTFO"

>"We're leaving"
"BTFO"

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>>15158230
>muh golf cart race tracks

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>>15158230
>staying on the track
yeah, that would be a good idea

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>>15158239
>caring about 3d women
>caring about women
>ever

>>15158239
t. triggered gm fangirl

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>>15158220
>implying automatic transmissions are better than manual transmissions because of an arbitrary 30-50 mph test

This is some top level autistic shit right here. Thats like saying s class mercedes are better than bmw's because they have metal valve stem caps vs bmw's plastic ones.

>>15158239
>implying weeaboos ever see the light of day

It's the same kids posting the same shit day in and day out here for years.

>>15158259
>excuses
>>15158263
t. assmad gm fangirl

>>15158259
> "ten second difference over 20mph is arbitrary"
Roflmao try damage control a bit less

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>>15158259
>mfw the corvette automatic transmission is a slushbox

kek, why can't GM afford a DCT?

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>>15158243
Nurburgring is closed pizza boy

>>15157536
they had to appeal to the american market some how, so they made it pigfat to resonate with their potential customers.

>>15158267
lel@ur life

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>>15158289
[citation needed]
>>15158296
>this assmad

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>>15158284
>wanting a belt driven transmission inside of a performance car

>>15158308
>moving goalposts this hard
>gm fangirls got BTFO so badly they're resorting to irrelevant topics

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>>15158289
it actually isn't closed, several manufacturers have taken their cars around the ring for a laptime withou any problems

the speed limit meme was GM finding an excuse not to take the shit-vette around the ring for a time attack again, because we all know what happened the last time they did

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>>15158298
The nissan gtr literally closed the nurburgring permanenetly. I don't even understand how you weebs can still support such a terrible machine. Next year they probably shut laguna Seca down.

>>15158298
>[citation needed]
'kay

http://blog.caranddriver.com/nurburgring-bans-future-lap-record-attempts-918-remains-production-car-king/

>>15157656

Good point since Horsepower sells cars, but displacement makes the torque to move that boat.

And nobody would want to buy the sound of a 100k dollar 4banger.

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>>15158308
>he thinks a DCT is a CVT transmission
kek. Termi proving one again he is a dumb, inbreed hick

also

>dat pic
why would I care if ameriburgers are killing themselves?

>>15158330
>>15158334

except it didn't. BMW took the M2 around the ring after the GTR crash, so did alfa romeo with the guilla and Ford with the GT350

>all this damage control because the corvette can't finish a lap

top kek

>>15158330
>news from 2015
It's been open for months you idiot.

>>15158334
see
>>15158341

>>15158341
termi's village barely has internet connection dude

>>15158330
>>15158334
> gt350r set lap time recently and btfo camaro
Roflmao is "nurburgring shut down" just a delusional coping mechanism for gm fan girls to deal with famboying inferior vehicles?

>>15158334
>>15158330

Are all GM fangirls this retarded?

http://blog.caranddriver.com/speed-unlimited-the-nurburgring-restrictions-are-removed/

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>>15158364
>march 30 2016
>post yfw gm is literally avoiding the nurburgring at all costs to avoid getting BTFO

>>15158345
>>15158350
There are still speed limits on certain parts of the track. So setting laptimes on the nurburgring are still in a sense defacto banned.

>>15158373
>There are still speed limits on certain parts of the track.
when it is open to the public, not when a manufacturer rents the place for a day

you are a retard

>>15158373
"No." Read it again, dumbass.

>"the legendary racetrack had imposed speed limits on sections of its Nordschleife: 200 km/h (124 mph) between Hocheichen and Schwedenkreuz, raised to 250 km/h (155 mph) for the latter portion of that stretch, then 155 mph on Döttinger Höhe. The limits had been met with criticism because they seemed to contradict the purpose of the track. Now they have been lifted entirely."

http://blog.caranddriver.com/speed-unlimited-the-nurburgring-restrictions-are-removed/

>>15157536
Noice b8

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ITT: GM FANGIRLS BTFO!!!!

>>15158391
this
>let's pretend to shitpost about how heavy the VR38 is
>its actually just a falseflag to shitpost about the corvette being slower and less reliable

>>15157656
>has to be built in a hermetically sealed cuck shed, so that the nipponese semen used to glue it together can be folded a million times.
I lol'd