Does everything here look to be in order. Like is everything

>buying a 50 year old car
>can't tell this at a glance
You're gonna have a bad time.

>>15066548
It's a 302 v8. Around 5000 miles on it. I don't know if that helps.

>>15066543
It's missing the knudsen valve, but otherwise looks ok. How does it run?

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Carbed thread?

>>15066573
I'm not seeing a turbo encapulator either come to think of it. OP this might be a scam.

>>15066582
Hm. How did I miss that? OP, ask when the last time the travolta strut steering bolts were last torqued. If they haven't done that in the last 3000 miles, I'd be wary.

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He's selling for $11,000. He said it runs great. I'll post some more pics of the car. Is it worth it?

>>15066616
He's lying. It doesn't even have a headlight fluid reservoir.

Important questions, OP. What are you going to be doing with this car? What cars have you owned before? What state are you in? What >>15066548 said is very. very true. If you're buying a classic you damn better be ready to wrench it yourself and know every sight sound and smell in that car like your own pulse. There are no dashboard lights to warn you if something is worn out, and no OBD2 port to give you error codes to help you fix things. I almost got a car just like this a couple times before.

>>15066543
Looks like the previous owner might have used a metric screwdriver to service the powerbands. Ask if he converted them to metric to make them easier to replace, since most cars are metric now. That's quite a looker you got there OP.

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>>15066632
I plan on learning as I go. Until I know this car inside and out. I'm going to be taking it in to a mechanic for regular check ups.

>>15066660
OP it doesn't even have multi-radian hubs, look at how far the center of the wheels stick out. This POS does not move under its own power if it even runs.

>>15066660
You're gonna fuck up a nice classic and go broke doing so.

Don't buy this car, you'll just be digging yourself into a deep money pit.

>Learning as you go on a classic
No. Just no.

>>15066543
That wiring is fucking fucked mate. Big time

>>15066688
Can't i just take it in regularly to a mechanic? Maybe even someone who specializes in classic cars?

>>15066660
Judging by the pic it looks like you're out of the rust belt, which is a good sign desu senpai. Got a second vehicle that'll be your weekday warrior? A first gen Mustang is actually a decent starter classic, super fucking simple design. Have you worked on cars at all before? And by worked on cars that can mean changing your oil and pulling a breakpad out once. And most importantly, do you have friends who are gonna be able to help you? You can't just take this thing to any mechanic for a checkup, you're gonna have to find a classic specialist and pay that premium. Again, how many cars have you gone through, what cars, and how long have you been driving. A 289 with good airflow can and will haul ass hard enough to throw you against the seat, not something to underestimate, so experience with RWD and torque heavy engines is a must.

>>15066715
No you idiot. Buy a 2005+ Mustang GT if you really like the look.

>>15066715
Are you friends with any mechanics?
Do you even know the basics of how a car works?

I can see it now.
>"Mr. Mechanic my car is acting weird and making a weird noise!"
>Okay how is it acting weird and where's the noise coming from
>"I don't know but it isn't working right! Please fix it!"
>Okay so you don't know what the problem actually is? That'll be time for diagnosing the problem, parts, and repair. Please give me $2000, your secondary spark plugs are failing to fire. Causes an unburned air / fuel mixture to get sucked back into the upper coolant hose through the thermostat.

Athat era Mustang is about as simple as cars get
Perfect car to learn to wrench on if you have a workshop manual and more than 60 iq points
Ignore the autists

>>15066543
ignore most of these trolls
11k isnt too bad for mustang notchback. the convertables and fastbacks are worth more even though they use 90% of the same parts this one will be either converted 6 cyilinder to v8 or the 289 died and owner swapped in the 302 windsor v8 (direct swap: bigger bores)
everything for these are availible online
that includes the v8
you can DD these but you will have to fit electronic igntion (and distributor) as well as a after market carborettor based fuel injection.
or put in later model (85+) engine yes will need rewire.
buy a workshop manual and study it so you know where everything goes at the least. and learn from the internet how your car works at the least

>>15066759
>OP has zero experience
>anon recommends him a car with a carb and no OBD system

>>15066763
Like I said, as simple as a car can get

>>15066769
Carbs need way more work to deal with than EFI, and OP is the type of idiot who will ignore suspension noises.

>>15066721
I appreciate the help. And I haven't worked on cars before. Would an owners manual for it help a lot?

>>15066774
Everyone has to start somewhere and it's a good starting point
What crawled up your ass? Go back to waxing your 1990 corolla

>>15066688
>mustang
>classic

Pls

>>15066774
Modern mechanics are mostly hopeless due to OBD systems. If it isn't throwing a code they are fucked. Engines are real simple, they require fuel, air, and spark. A Carb is a simple way to learn all about it. Especially if it is still running an old Autolite carb, as they are near indestructible, and have very little that can go wrong with them.

>>15066727
The 60's mustang has always been my dream car. That's why I'm looking at buying it.

>>15066781
OP has stated that he has literally never worked on a car before, and you're suggesting something that's going to need serious mechanical autism to be driven everyday? No, that's fucking idiotic. I learned how I imagine most people here learned, holding the light in the garage at home when younger, progressing to actually working on small engines, and then taking an ASE-level auto course in school. Depending on the carb, it could be fiddly and need futzing with every day. Previous owner may not have restored the suspension fairly well, could need god knows what. OP has never touched a wrench in his life. This is a terrible idea for his sake and for the car's sake.

>>15066734
I'm barely on the surface of knowing the basics. I'm looking at a lot of videos on working with classic cars. I even downloaded the owners manual for it.

>>15066795
OP the fact that you haven't been able to call any of the bullshit jokes in this thread proves your inexperience. You will be the death of this car.

>>15066779
owners manual no. they only tell you how to drive it when it was new.
thats why i said buy a workshop manual and study it.
the only thing you will really need to do is throw out the rubber bushings and put in polyurethane (plastic) as it doesnt flex and warp like rubber does

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>>15066806
>recommending poly bushings

>>15066809
ok troll back to your bridge. unlike you this isnt my first rodeo.

>>15066760
Thanks for the help. I'll keep that in mind.

>>15066821
I'm trolling for telling OP NOT to make his classic that he won't have a clue how to maintain into a rattletrap?

>>15066787
Hey, my dream car is a '68 'stang (built up into a rally car though). That's why I'm getting a Jap car to learn on. As much as you want it, get something more reliable. This is starting to sound like your first car, try a modern '05+ GT at that price range or an oldish Japanese coupe, those are more mechanic safe. Don't get that mustang as a first car because it does look like everything is there so it can and will kill you if something goes wrong. That's a solid non collapsing steering column, it'll impale you in an accident. Learn to drive, learn to wrench, THEN see if you still want this. Hey, your tastes might change with new knowledge.

Doesn't look that bad, just make sure to ask when was the last time the muffler bearing has been replaced

>>15066763
It's not impossible, I know a guy who bought a beat up '65 notchback for his first car and daily drives it.

However he was a complete car guy who wasn't fazed by doing his own self-repairing to keep it running, dumped a lot of money into upgrading it.

>>15066793
I have a lot of respect for this car and I don't plan on taking it on many drives for at least the first few months with it. I'll learn everything I should know about how to treat and service a car like this before it becomes my daily driver.

>>15066822
try cj pony parts online as a start.
>>15066825
you are troll for not recomending better parts in his pony.
>>15066831
my first car was a shit box with carbs. and i learned the hard way without a back up car

>taking a classic car to a mechanic you aren't friends with
Pretty much just suicide.
Anyway classics are stupid easy to work on, except you shouldn't be working on one that's already fine.

>>15066841
Book knowledge is one thing, but you don't even have a lot of that. Book knowledge means very little if you can't visualize how an assembly goes together, how to finaggle a bolt into its hole through some ridiculous passage, etc.

Also the fact that you can't pick up on the joke posts in this thread shows how little you know.

>>15066841
>I have a lot of respect for this car and I don't plan on taking it on many drives for at least the first few months
Sounds like you have no respect for the car. The worst thing you can do to a carb'd car is to let it sit.

Holy fuck this board is full of pansies. Buy it OP, learn to drive and work on a classic like every real man has for decades. Ignore the jealous pussies.

>>15066844
He's not going to fucking race it, why use poly instead of fresh rubber?

>>15066801
I haven't replied to them because I know they're fake. I know common sense about cars. Haven't you noticed I've been replying only to those who are trying to help?

>>15066543
If you have the time and drive to really learn what a car this age needs on the regular (you will spend more time under the hood then you plan) then go for it.

It's a nice looking car, just don't try for your DD.

>>15066849
People learned how to wrench through their fathers teaching them, or learning themselves at a young age. OP wants to take it to a fucking mechanic. I'll bet he doesn't even own a basic socket set.

>>15066852
You got the best help you could ask for in

>>15066688

>>15066859
And others learned through their own trial and error. He can buy tools if he doesn't own them. Stop trying to discourage people and fuck off with your fake ass elitism.

>>15066864
>trial and error on a classic
What the absolute fuck?
No, you do this to your weekend Civic.

>>15066864
It's common sense, hardly elitism. Also this >>15066865

>>15066831
Thanks for the input. And I'm not taking to many risks with this car. That's why I'm going to learn it inside and out before making it my daily driver.

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post yfw OP comes back on /o/ in a month asking why is mustang won't start and he says he dindu nuffin to it.

>>15066865
Yes, it's a mustang from the 60s, not a ferrari

>>15066874
>OP halfway disassembles car
>realizes he has no idea what the fuck he's doing
>car sits on blocks forever and nobody buys it because it's disassembled

>>15066881
except he'll be charged as if it was a Ferrari if he has to take it anywhere.
Additionally, NOS parts don't get replenished.

>>15066848
I'm not saying I won't drive it at all. I plan on atleast running the engine at least once a day just for the pure enjoyment of listening to it.

>>15066889
Sure he would bud :^)

>>15066890
Stop listening to the idiots and do what you want

>>15066849
That's exactly what I was planning on doing. Thanks for the input

>>15066874
Plan on dedicating your whole summer and every extra penny you make and then some to this car. And for the love of God please find friends to help you work on it. There's probably a classics club full of Mustang enthusiasts willing to help you, avoid the mechanic. Start working on the suspension, ignition, and exhaust. If you can do these on your own, you're good. Also learn to tune a carburetor. You'll be doing this a lot. Also auto or manual?

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>>15066847
>>15066862
>>15066865
>>15066875
>>15066883
>>15066889

>>15066905
OP probably doesn't even know what a jet is.

>>15066905
im a ford geek. everything is availbe for 60s mustangs you can rebuild one with a credit card

>>15066890
That's good and all but cars are meant to be driven and shit.
OP here's what i suggest, look on the internet and buy like four sets of complete engine gaskets, and carb rebuild kits. Some place may have them today but not tomorrow or the next day etc and those are items that will need to be replaced one day or another.
Also get familiar with non-ethanol gas unless you want your carbs and fuel lines to rot from the inside out. These engines have fairly mild compression ratios but you should only use mid-grade to be safe. Not that you're required to but if the engine starts knocking there's no sensor to retard the ignition timing for you and if you can audibly hear it knocking, just shut the fucking thing off right away.


>>15066900
>Stop listening to the idiots and do what you want
This is how cars sit in a yard and rust for 20 years then people charge $20K for someone to haul it off

>>15066917
>you can rebuild one with a credit card
no truer words were never said, then the car gets taken in bankruptcy.

>>15066905
It's an auto. Thanks for the help. I bet there is a classics club around me. I see them all the time here

>>15066935
auto will be a c4. plenty of rebuild kits for those

>>15066935
Car shows are a good way to find parts and get help that /o/ (especially) /o/ is too retarded to give.

If you're young get used to being talked down to though.

>>15066918
Thanks for all the info. You might have just saved me a lot of trouble.

>>15066959
not a prob sometimes the internet helps :)

>>15066959
It's nothing OP, congrats on the purchase.

OP here. If I do happen to get this car, I'll post more during this week. I arranged to meet at a firestone to have it checked out tomorrow.

Catstang 2.0 incoming
lulz will be had

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>>15066579
Yes.

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>>15066569
what year is the motor? what did it come out of?
302 wasnt an option in '66

This will be important when you need a waterpump, or alternator.

>>15066921
or sold for less than he bought it for originally

$11k is half of what a solid 66' sells for these days. there are some red flags here, proceed cautiously

>>15068220
Maybe the owner's wife is being a cunt.

saw a landwhale literally forcing a dude to put the "for sale" sign on a bike two days ago.

>>15068254
or maybe its a cobbled together, full of bondo, piece of shit.

>>15068133
Thanks. I'll ask the seller.

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>>15068477
seconding this >>15068133
you might even be able to talk him down because it's not "numbers matching" lol

and going off that, see if you can verify it was an original V8. the I6 to V8 swaps usually require brake/suspension changes. those look like 5 lug wheels - I6 came with four lugs. disc brakes up front?

you can get some info from the data plate and/or the VIN about what it was factory.

>no hyperdrive
>chewie didn't put it back on in the shop
>can't even escape imperial star destroyers

>>15068600
I thought only 64 had an I6 or am i thinking of Corvettes?

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OP here. Going to go check it out today. Any important questions I should ask? Also, here's another picture he sent recently.

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One more.

>>15069684
>>15069690
Ask him to put in a Toploader without any lip.

>>15066918
>Not that you're required to but if the engine starts knocking there's no sensor to retard the ignition timing for you and if you can audibly hear it knocking, just shut the fucking thing off right away.
or just back out of the throttle

>>15066573
Actually anon, it looks like the headlight fluid pump is missing as well.

>>15070156
That won't solve anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maZyPJIOknE

>>15070163
No wonder it's so cheap.

>>15070169
>let me get this autistic nigger to explain something i don't understand

>>15070207
If you don't understand it just say so. There's no need to be upset. Maybe you were thinking about backfiring or something, i dunno.
Backing off the throttle is like putting a band-aid on a gaping wound, it won't cure engine knock, at the very most, it will prevent it from happening until you hit the throttle again.

>>15070220
>your suggestion won't cure engine knock
>neither will mine but I'm upset you called me out so am moving the goalposts

>>15070273
>Retarding the ignition timing and running premium won't cure knock

What the fuck are you smoking?

>>15070285
>>Not that you're required to but if the engine starts knocking there's no sensor to retard the ignition timing for you and if you can audibly hear it knocking, just shut the fucking thing off right away.

>>15070291
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine-knock2.htm

Did your mom squirt you out head first onto a cinder block?

>backing out of the throttle will help if the engine is knocking
this is what I am saying.
>backing out of the throttle won't help if the engine is knocking
is this what you're saying?

>inb4 more goalpost moving because you can't admit being wrong
edited for typo

>>15070337
>is this what you're saying?
No fucking shit

>>15070169
>That won't solve anything.

>>15070348
okay so you don't understand how engines work. fair enough.

>1966
>302 V8
IIRC those Mustangs werent meant for those engines and as such cant handle the torque so body flex will become a real issue. Many people think they can just shove any engine in so long as it can be locked down and there wont be issues but thats wrong.

>>15070359
So you don't know how engine knocking works despite me providing sources to educate yourself.

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>>15070378
>he genuinely thinks reducing throttle opening won't instantaneously stop knock
>he doesn't know what a throttle does
>the only knowledge he has about engines comes from internet pages
>he'd rather switch the engine off and sit at the roadside waiting for race gas than just cruise home at 1/2 throttle

>>15070409
>>he genuinely thinks reducing throttle opening won't instantaneously stop knock
>He thinks knock is a throttle problem, not a temperature/octane problem

>>he doesn't know what a throttle does
>he doesn't know what a throttle does

>>he'd rather switch the engine off and sit at the roadside waiting for race gas than just cruise home at 1/2 throttle

>he'd ride home with a knocking engine ready to rebuild it rather than take care of it

Protip, if you can audibly hear the engine knocking it's already damaging your car.

>>15070432
>i still don't know what a throttle is but don't back out of the throttle in an emergency that's not practical
>just switch the engine off and mill the pistons down instead
>or piss down the intake to cool the chamber down

>>15070432
you really don't know how throttle position factors into this do you? lmao

>>15070455
>>i still don't know what a throttle is but don't back out of the throttle in an emergency that's not practical
>He still thinks backing off the throttle will make a difference

>he thinks he can limp home without potentially blowing headgaskets, overheating, and damaging valves

I mean this has been known information for decades and you still provide no sources about how a throttle reduction can help alleviate knocking.

>>15070497
>throttle angle doesn't influence engine knocking
>this has been known for decades
0/10 fuck off now

>>15070526
>>throttle angle doesn't influence engine knocking
Sorry, nope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_knocking#Causes_of_pre-ignition

Regardless, engine could be knocking even if you can't hear it.

Which is why the fuck you retard your ignition or run premium you fucking homo.

I know it's hard to understand when you're wrong, even worse when your realize you're wrong and you can't stop vomiting wrong information, but you'll have to let go eventually.

>>15070548
>he didn't read his own link
kek

>>15070578
Neither did you so i dunno why you're bitchin

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>>15070583
but i did anon, i did

>>15068769
You could get an I6 in all the first gen mustangs.
>or am i thinking of Corvettes?
I'm not even going to pretend that I know what you are thinking. 53 and 54 vettes had the blueflame 6, with the V8 not coming out until 55.

>>15070548
>>15070583
looks like you got schooled lad
shame, i was having fun fucking with you

>>15070596
Eh whatever, you got me there but that's pretty retarded because the engine can still be knocking if you can't hear it and if you can't hear it, how will you know to back off the throttle?

>>15070618
>needs others to do his work
>comes out wiping the tears from his eyes
>s..see!

lol no. Reducing throttle won't eliminate engine knocking. Now i'm gunna move the goal posts because there are plenty of spots to put them.
Hence why every single car now has a sensor that listens for knock when you can't hear it.

>>15070638
>b-but you didn't know this basic thing about cars that you were saying all along
>y-you couldn't have been fucking with me the whole time y-you just didn't know
lmao could you be more booty blasted?

>>15070682
I was wrong
About a small thing.
So go ahead and advance the timing on your car as much as you can.

Prepare for catstang 2.0, this will be fun.

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>>15070638
>>15070693

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>>15070706

>>15069684
Well good luck OP, a lot of people more knowledgable than you have recommended against this as have I. But if you're dead set, you're a man (right?) and can make your decisions. I hope you don't create a money pit and ruin that car or your body.

>>15070366
Could you reinforce it somehow?

>>15071546
Jesus Christ you really are completely clueless

>>15071546
Yeah by building a new car around a new chassis on a new suspension

Why do some many people who clearly know absolutely nothing about old Mustangs offer up advice as if they do? Is it a strange fetish you guys have?

>>15070366
>13 more cubic inches will crack the car in half

>>15070638
It sounds like you guys are arguing rod knock vs pre ignition. Both called knock, and make a similar sound but caused by different things

>>15072262
frame connectors and maybe a monte carlo bar are all you need for the average beefed up street car.

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>>15066543
Check the headlight fluid kid.

>>15070366
You're so full of shit your shit is full of shit. Only a fucking retard would think a 66 mustang can't handle the torque from an engine that's inferior to the 289. Kill yourself cuck.

>>15066543
fuckkkkkkkkkk i hate u OP wow. faggot kid.

>>15066543
It's missing the head light fluid reservoir tank.

What I'm confused about is why all you people are acting so uptight about an old mustang with a 302 in it. They are pretty damn hard to kill engines. Not much should even go wrong with that car, being it is so simple. And if something does go wrong, they are stupidly easy to fix. Idk, maybe it's because I grew up around 60's and 70's Fords with 302s so I don't sweat it too much.

Just check fluids constantly, and listen for odd sounds that obviously shouldn't be occurring. It's really that simple.

>>15072737
I think it's because they're shitbox kids who have never held a caburetor and think that they're magic and impossible to fix
Which is silly considering that carbs work on super basic mechanical principles and are piss easy to know what's happening, why, and to fix it. Meanwhile fuel injection systems have all sorts of potential issues and if something does go wrong, diagnostics are a bitch, taking it apart is a bitch and replacing shit is a bitch. Not to mention they vary wildly depending on year, make and model while a carb is always just a fucking carb.

>>15072894
oppressive white male detected
you clearly don't know it's the current year.

>>15072894
Exactly man... I DD a 1988 Mustang. Yes it is more modern, it has EFI, yes it is reliable. But that shit is so much more complicated. I'm honestly scared to work on my car.

But with all my dad's 70's trucks, it's soooo simple. You can literally stand in the engine bay and work from inside there. Very basic components as well, and less things to break.

These people saying "NO YOU'LL RUIN IT!!", trying to sound like they are more mechanically inclined are obviously less mechanically inclined.

To OP: Dude, if you have the cash, and it's your dream ride, BUY IT! It is a very simple machine. Care for it, and it will care for you back. Check fluids constantly. Read owners manuals. Buy a Haynes manual and study it. Read forums dedicated to those cars. That's really about all you need to do.

>>15072945
I drive an 89 and I'm telling him not to because it's clear OP has never touched a wrench in his life.

>>15070220
the only thing that cures engine knock is higher quality petrol and advance distributor timing 10 degrees

>>15070366
dont listen to this moron the 302 is a bolt in direct replacement for a 289 majority of rebuilt mustangs have the 302 as virgin bore 289s dont exist any more... and you cant buy them new like you can with a 302
>>15070600
first gen corvette and mustang had a i6. 2nd year corvette switched to 265 v8 (grandfather to the sbc 2/4 bolt)

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Why would you want an old piece of shit mustang?

>>15073675
Nice.

>>15066781
Did not read the whole thread, but
>telling an EFI OBD babby that he can handle a carbed car
You're joking right? If he's never done as much as cleaning a motorcycle carb, he'll be in the shop after 6 months or less. I'm not familiar with mustangs specifically, but all carbs have small, retarded issues that need to be dealt with regularly.
With that said, everyone has to learn, but most of us learned by fixing our go carts or minibikes. OP can learn as well, but don't act like it's nothing.

>>15074122
Yeah, 4 barrel carbs ain't no joke.
It's better to learn on single barrels.

>>15066760
>289
>302 bigger bores
Actually mechanically, the only difference between a 289 and 302 is that the 289 has a shorter stroke and longer connecting rods

>>15074122
>gocarts or minibikes
fuck fuck fuck
>no anon too dangerous
>tfw need to learn to fix shitbox i depend upon completely learning about cars
>good thing I am NEET and my time is both plentiful and worthless
>only penalty is 2 hours ofbusriding a week for food.

>>15074122
Most early mustangs came with either an Autolite 2100 or a 4100. They are the most simple and indestructible carbs known to man. The Holley equivalents aren't that much more complex either.

>>15072401
It literally very well could

>>15075696
>guys running boosted mod motors in 65 stangs.

You are the dumbest cunt.

>>15074638
so are 289s really low compression?

I have a 1966 coupe with a 289 that I have been daily driving for the past year; here are some warnings:
>don't rely on it ever, its an old car, always have a backup vehicle
>its not as fast as you think
>the gas mileage is total shit
>keep any modifications simple
>learn to double clutch
>treat it gently or you are going to have a bad time

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>>15070638
>>15070693

>>15066543
Back to the original question
>Does everything here look to be in order
1)Heater core is not connected, so no heat
2)Engine cooling fan is a cheap piece of shit that's also too far from the radiator to be effective
3)No battery hold-down
4)No windshield washer reservoir
5)No windshield washer hoses either
6)Incorrect covering on headlight harness on LS shock tower. Also routed incorrectly over shock tower instead of alongside.
7)Engine harness routed incorrectly outboard of LS valve cover. Will be susceptible to exhaust heat and oil contamination. Should run along the inboard side of LS valve cover
8)Unknown harness running on top of RS shock tower. Looks like it includes the charging harness that's supposed to run with the headlight harness on the LS and then cross over the front above the radiator
9)Completely inadequate crimp-style butt-splice connectors that are havens for corrosion and are poor connections waiting to happen. Should at least have heat-shrink tubing to seal connections and soldering preferred
10)Battery cable repair ends. Same objections as crimp style connectors
11)Not sure what those looping tubes are on the upper right of the pic. Don't original to the car
12)Underhood color appears semi-flat instead of semi-gloss. Not a huge issue but he's asking good money so things like this should be right
13)Absolutely the cheapest air cleaner and valve cover combo out there.

>>15077662
not necessarily
the deck height was the same, just slightly more stroke

>>15078943
but if the displacement is less and the combustion chamber is the same then compression ratio will drop.