why do you guys hate modern v6 pony cars?

>>15062379
>v6
lmao kill yourself

>>15062379
Because the whole point of the cars is the v8. You could buy a 370Z if you wanted a v6.

>buy the shitty budget version of a car for attention
>LOL NOT EVERY1 IS RICH GOD

Buy a different fucking car, it's the same story every time. The only reason you'd ever buy a V6 muscle car is so you can brag about it to equally automotive retarded normies

>>15062404
>The only reason you'd ever buy a V6 muscle car is so you can brag about it to equally automotive retarded normies
That's why YOU would. Other people do it for other reasons.

>>15062379

If you can't afford the V8, you likely won't be able to afford the V6 either... There's nothing worse than somebody being "car poor" where they have a nice car but can't afford the gas or insurance.

Yes 300hp is too little, that's fucking minivan tier.

>>15062379
For the price of any given V6 ponycar, you can get a slightly older secondhand V8 one - with the V8 producing more power, better sound, and generally having more options.

>>15062416
>people retarded enough to buy v6 muscle/pony cars buying them for any other reason

>>15062397
>>15062404

I don't understand your mentality, /o/

>>15062400

It's like $3000-$4000 USD more for the 370Z

I'd get one for cost, fuel economy and because I'm realistic that more than 300 HP is unnecessary.Stop being a benchracing faggot, OP.

>>15062435
The V6 isn't muscle car muscle head.

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Bring this back.

Base model trim would probably be a N/A V6

Top Trim (GNX) would be a Turbo V6

It would have around as much Horsepower as the V8 SS trim Camaro or more (basically it would be one fucking powerful V6 Turbo muscle) just like the last GNX.

>>15062431
>Yes 300hp is too little, that's fucking minivan tier.

/o/ sometimes the shit you say makes me really wonder if any of you actually own a car.

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i don't

they make perfect sense for a massive v8 swap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd8s59S9hBc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKafU3z_eE0

>>15062446
I didn't put quotes around it, sue me.

>>15062444
An older V8 would cost so much less that fuel economy is moot.

>>15062446
A V8 ponycar isn't a muscle car either.

>>15062447
Base model should be a n/a V6.
Ricer spec, offer a turbo inline four.
SS, R/T or GT trim should be an n/a V8
Offer maybe a Scat-Pack style trim with a bigger n/a V8

Top trim, offer a twinturbo V8.

>>15062379
The V8s aren't that much more expensive, and generally the difference in maintenance, insurance, and fuel mileage is negligible
But in return you get so much more power, and they hold their value better as well

>>15062453
Base spec ponycars are always best for big block swaps - or crazy stuff like fullsize truck diesels.

A previous generation V8 still costs more than the current generation V6

Do you actually look at cars /o/ or do you just shitpost all day?


Or maybe it is just my geographical location where there aren't many cars

>>15062379

THE RS IS AN APPEARANCE PACKAGE. IT'S NOT THE V6 VERSION. THE V6 VERSIONS ARE LT AND LS. FUCK. EVERYONE GETS THIS WRONG.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>15062496
It's your location.

>>15062496
>previous generation V8 still costs more than the current generation V6
Do you live in England?

>>15062379
v6, i4, pnycrs have always been hairdresser tier.
The fact that v6 are increasing in power is kinda irrelevant considering the v8 are as well.

>>15062499

You can get (or at least could) get like a 1LT V6 trim with the RS package and badge, so, uh.... yeah

>>15062506

middle of farmland USA

>>15062379
Basically my view on it is if you can't afford a V8 muscle car, then look for something that has a turbo 4. I just can't stand the gutless whine of an n/a 4 or 6 cylinder. To me a car needs to sound mean, whether it's growling like a lion or screaming like a banshee.

>>15062490
>>15062453
but wouldn't the V8 models have different suspension and other driveline/chassis upgrades that would be better suited for crazy swaps?

>>15062525

You could have gotten an SS with the RS package too.

>>15062530
>To me a car needs to sound mean, whether it's growling like a lion or screaming like a banshee.

What about those of us who aren't insecure manlets?

>not liking an NA i6

>>15062530
>I just can't stand the gutless whine of an n/a 4 or 6 cylinder
>He doesn't know about the S2000's screaming engine or Porsche's flat 6s

>>15062447
This is pretty much what Cadillac is doing with the ATS.

Base model is turbo I4. Next model up is N/A V6. Next model up is TT V6 (ATS-V).

>>15062536
When you're backhalving a car, adding a solid rear end with a four link, going to front struts, and massively reducing weight - nobody cares.

>>15062530
>if you can't get what I like, then get something else I like

Speak for yourself, faggot. We're not here to serve you.

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>Guy I went to high school with had his dad buy him a V6 mustang
>He spent his retail money on parts to make it look like a cobra
>Has a fucking "3.7 Cyclone" badge on the rear deck lid
>Cobra grill, spoiler, wheels, etc
>Just bought fucking Cobra badges for it
>mfw constantly make fun of him for it
>He says he'll race me for pink slips at the next meet
>mfw I ride a CBR600rr
>mfw riced out Mustang will soon be in my possession

Why are Mustang driver's so easy to bait?

>>15062379

I don't hate them, but I would love to have an EV version of the new Camaro. That would be great.

>>15062536
no

you need a new k-member, new front suspension, new trans in most of the cases which means you need new driveshaft and you might aswell get a new rear end to handle the power

>>15062575
>why are stupid people so easy to bait
Ftfy
There's people like that in every car group
I know damn well I couldn't beat a sport bike. But then again I don't pretend to have something I don't.

>>15062554
>not liking loud cars just for the fact that they're loud
I love being outdoors and hearing someone in a muscle car doing a screeching burnout followed by a low roar off in the distance, or cars that sound like sport bikes ripping through gears at ridiculous rpm's. Doesn't have to be my own car making the noise desu.

>>15062554
I own an na I6, doesn't hold a candle in the feels department to my 5.0 coyote.

>>15062404
v6 muscle cars actually compete well with other new cars at their price point.
Any time someone brings up the genesis coupe, the response is "buy a 370 or a v6 stang"

Other than the 'shoulda bought a v8' mentality, there isnt really a GOOD reason not to consider one at that price point

>>15062600
I fucking love loud cars. I havent lived in many places near traffic but getting woken up by a straight piped anything is ok with me.
When I go to car shows and meets I just chill in a high traffic area and just listen to the cars cruise by.

>>15062443
He literally just explained his mentality in >>15062404

>>15062536
That's exactly it, v8s suspension are set up to handle v8s , the v6 ponies drive like shit because they are shit, Ford wasn't going to encroach on v8 territory even though they could

>>15062765
you are a dumb faggot

most of the older pony cars parts from the late 90's and early 00's wont be able to handle the power of a modern v8 swap

LT1 camaros and SOHC 4.6 mustangs barely made over 3002hp

>>15062785
300whp

>>15062785
I'm fucking talking and newer cars we all are

>>15062379
Because they are so worried about their "manhood".

And the biggest question is why anyone would ever ever ever idolize obsolete pushrod V8 when there are so much better engines on the market today.

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@15062797

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>>15062811
This is not bait, this is fact.
A car built in a fucking shed in the UK with less than half of the engine capacity will destroy any stock muscle car in any kind of race.

Funny thing is, V6 coupes aren't so common anymore, and I'm pretty sure Mustang and Camaro are the cheapest V6 vehicles in Ford and Chevy's respective lineups.

So, I don't think it's such a bad thing to drive a V6 Mustang/Camaro, if that's the sort of car you want. Just don't act like you're hot shit because it's a mustang/camaro.

>>15062845
>any kind of race.
Half mile drags.

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@15062845
You literally just completely moved the goalposts. I could alo build an FFR cobra replica with a 427 and destroy any mustang or camaro or whatever around a track, what's your point?

>>15062861
Now you've just invited him to post
"Drag racing goes on /lgbt" or some shit.

>>15062811
>>15062870
Learn to 4chan you idiot.

>>15062884
I'm not giving him (you)s.

>>15062861
They do 0-60 in less than 3 seconds and 0-120mph in about 10. I don't think there's any problem.

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This shit is faster than a hellcat. Has half the cylinders and less than half the power. And it's "wrong wheel drive"

>>15062900

10 second 120mph?
That's just not competitive in most pony car drag racing.

everyone on /o/ will shit on you unless you drive something made in asia.

dont take what people say here seriously.

>>15062953
And it's heavily modded out the ass specifically for that track.

Every argument in this thread in favor of V6 "muscle" cars is basically STOP HATIN OMG FUKIN HATERZ UR ALL DUMB

>>15062970
A stock Caterham 620R does the 1/4mile in under 12 seconds.

>>15062983
Why would you respond to a CTR poster?

>>15062379
At this point I'd shell out the extra for the V8 primarily not to be lumped with the other V6 muscle owners. Never met someone with a V6 stang or Camaro that didn't go full douche with it.

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>>15062983
>le heavily modified meme

spotted the asshurt "mussle cur" fangirl

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Ok, so no V6 Camaro then

would you a police car, /o/?

https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/19230102

>>15062379
You don't buy a muscle car with a V6 for the same reason you don't buy a gaming PC just for Microsoft Office.

>>15062379
Americans don't make very good V6's, whereas they make pretty good V8's. Why buy an American V6 that can't compare to a German V6, when you can buy a V8 and at least have power where you're lacking handling and ride quality.

I don't want you to think I'm bashing American cars in general, I love muscle cars, but you have to be blind and stupid to not believe that the only good things about the American auto industry are the V8's and the Europeanized areas, like the Focus.

>>15062397
Most appropriate response so far.

>tfw v6 camaro still beats the 1995 honda civic with anime stickers that /o/ drives

that explains all the replies

>>15063024
RIGHT?
>>15063072

>V6 is a slow piece of shit /o/s says

Never listen to /o/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcuXLuUI8wg

>>15063072
>Camaro: 1:10.67
>Civic Type R: 1:09.48

Civic wins.

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>>15063107
>>15063084

/o/ is not driving Honda " type-uuu Arrr" ..

pic related is what /o/ drives.

VTEC YO

>>15063072
>>15063106
>>15063118
kek, the cucks that own a piece of shit v6 pony car got triggered again

how does it feel to be so poor you couldn't even afford a v8?

>>15063057
>lacking handling and ride quality.

So.. i guess you didn't see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D87tO7VUs2I

Even stangs from 2011 with live-axle suspension were on par with M3s.

>not trying to bring up the Camaro vs BMW shitposting

The Camaro can also be had with Magneride suspension which on the Chevy SS (or VF commodore) was said to "Ride like a M5 but better" (that's what Fatt Farah said anyway)

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>>15063141
>slower
>on par

kek

>>15063118
You're still comparing apples to oranges. If you want a fair comparison, try the Camaro vs the 370z. Even with a V8, the Nissan still beats the Camaro. A V6 Camaro wouldn't stand a chance.

>>15063147
And still the M2 is a disappointment for the money.

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>>15063153

delicious ameriburger tears :v)

>>15063133

I don't own a V6 pony car, I just made the thread because /o/ is full of butt-mad shitbox drivers who defend things like the Miata and the Twingo

A modern V6 2+2 would shit all over most of the things /o/ drives and they are salty as fuck over it

>>15063157
I'm from Sweden.

>>15063133
Coming from someone who owns a honda civic?

>>15063153
Why would you respond to a fastestlaps post?

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>>15063159
>>15063165
>cucks actually defending cuck-tier v6 models

top kek

>>15063162
YES
E
S

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https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/18032814

OK then /o/ how about this?

I am gravely concerned about traveling 60/mi a day in this thing when it snows every winter.

Other than that, it looks neat

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>>15063172
>You still own a honda civic and you are 28
Top cuck!

V6 camaro / mustang still attract chicks a lot better than a civic

just saying

the styling of the car has an impact on the car as well, just just what's powering it

>>15063175
Just get snow tires.

Or, do they not plow the road where you live?

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>>15063190
KEK, I own a chevy 350 v8

go ahead, keep defenfing your cuck-tier v6

let me guess, your parents gave it to you for prom, and told you you were not getting a v8 because they don't want you racing

top fucking cuckhold!

the cuckhold is LITERALLY defending v6 models KEK

what a sissy cuck

>>15063205
I can't tell if you are for real or trolling.

>>15063194
guess what, a v8 will attract the same amount except you will not be the cuck with the v6 model

>>15063213
stay mad at your cuck-tier v6, cuck

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>>15063205
>He put a V8 in his civic

MY SIDES ARE IN ORBIT

>Buy a v6 pony car cause slightly cheaper and better gas mileage
>Enjoying the car a lot without a care in the world
>Go on /o/
>Now regret buying a v8

FUCK YOU /o/

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>>15063224
what kind of fucking retarded post is this?

>>15062379
Because you're a giant faggot

>>15063215

you will be a cuck for being too poor to buy the girl dinner because the car payment on the V8

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>>15063233
>He cant defend owning a honda civic at 28

LMFAO

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>>15063244
>tries to make fun of someone by calling them poor
>has to buy the cuck-tier v6 car to be able to afford dinner
are v6 cuckholds REALLY this fucking stupid?,I mean, are you actually this fucking stupid
>j/k of course you are, you are defending v6 models

also

>payment
try not to be a fucking debtcuck next time

>mfw he actually has car payments on a v6 cuck model
top kek, what a cuckhold

>>15063249
>gets BTFO
>starts doing retarded fucking shitposts

not that I was expecting anything from a v6 cuckhold

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>>15063262
>Your poor, you cant afford a V8
>Drives a 20 year old civic

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>>15063265
>I cant think of a comeback to defend owning a civic....OH I KNOW!

SHITPOSTER!!! That will show him!

Please stop, my sides hurt

>>15063274
>>15063280
see
>>15063205
go ahead, keep defending your cuck-tier v6

top kek, v6 cuckholds got mad as fuck today

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>>15063286
>He is still trying convicne us he put a V8 in his civic

GOODBYE TO MY SIDES!!!

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>>15063290
kek, look at this poor furfaggot autist suffering and struggling to keep up

literally got his aspergers so fucking triggered he has nothing but post these kind of summer-tier shitposts

imagine being such a cuckhold you defend v6 ponycars, then have to engage in this type of damage control after getting officially BTFO


kek, top cuck

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>>15063306
>The honda civic owner is calling others cucks

MY SIDES HAVE REACHED THE SUN LOL

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>>15063306
>An anime poster calling others furfaggots

>>15062499
Show me a v8 5th gen or 6g rs (not ss/ rs) but a v8 with an rs badge on the back

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>>15063334
>doesn't know about Alphonse and his name-dropping shitposting

sure is summer in here

>>15063359
Nigger, its been summer for at least 5 years now

>>15063107
ya but which one would you buy?

>>15062379
You answered it yourself, op. It's a compromise model. You want the image that comes with the muscle/pony car but can't afford it.

"I couldn't afford the fuel."
"You only need X horsepower."

This is the same argument 3cyl and hybrid econoshitters use when they want to sneer at nice things. And it all comes out as justification by the owner.

>>15063708
Why stop at a v8 though.

I can say the same thing about people who buy a v8 instead of a v10. Only women buy v8s because they're scared of v10s. Hell if you don't own a jet your a cuck pussy who can't afford the fuel.

>>15063752
v8 is the min requirement to not be a complete faggot

>>15063752

Because a V10 is shitty compared to a V12, a V8 can do everything better than a V10. Might as well go all the way. Anything over 12 is pointless.

>>15063752
We're talking about cars with V6 and V8 models. There are no factory V10 Mustangs, and I want a Mustang. A big fuckoff V8 clad in the iconic Ford muscle car shape that makes noise and gives concerned parents nightmares.

A V10 Audi R8 doesn't have the same effect. It's too refined.

>>15063882
With that said if there's a lower displacement version of the R8 and people get that, it's the same thing as the guy who gets the V6 Mustang.

Because they're 3800lbs for that 300hp

Cheaper 350z is 3200lbs for the same 300hp. I do not know why you'd ever buy a $30k v6 pony for "fun" when a $10k 350z shits on it.

>>15063904
do you have assburgers?

>>15062379
For example
>V6 challenger $26k
>V8 challenger $31k
The other makers have the same price gap. Thats not a "shits gold bricks and finance for 100 years" price difference faggot.

>>15063056
What a stupid analogy

>>15063994

>"$5000 USD is nothing - mere pocket change"

uh, ok /o/

>>15064584
It's not really, especially if you consider depreciation.

>>15064584
compared to the value of a car? yeah, it is. if you are in an emergency situation you are not buying a big american car- you're probably buying something small that costs less than the difference between the V6 and V8 cars noted above.

if you're not in an emergency situation, then you can afford to wait and save your money until the more desirable vehicle is within your price range. it's not hard. i promise.

>>15064797
financing a car is playing right into the 1%'s hands

If someone asks why you got the V6 version instead of the V8, respond by asking why they didn't get the Z28 of ZL1, then ask those people why they didn't get the corvette, then ask why they didn't get the z07 vette, then ask why the didn't just go all the way and get Aventador.

Point is, there is a lot more reasons to getting a car than just money. I have a 2015 LT2 RS Camaro that I bought new. The v8 version of the car was only $2000.00 or so more and I can assure you that it was not money that was holding me from getting the V8. I commute 25 miles to get to work 6 days a week and I don't need to accelerate .6 seconds faster to get on the interstate to get to work.

I paid outright for the car because I have the money, I also had the money for the SS, hell I had the money for the Z28. I bought this car pretty much after I landed my dream job with dream pay after finishing college. Looking back at it I probably would have gotten the V8 if I knew how to spend money like a person who did have money, but my 'puny' v6 is still fun to drive and I have no regrets about buying it.

>>15062431

This is coming from the board that praises the Miata, which has less hp than a lawnmower

>>15062379
>buy base model Impreza
>STi badging and bodykit

It's got enough horsepower bro you don't need so much.

>>15066050
v6 cuck detected

>>15066050
The Miata isn't a car that you buy for its engine first and other traits second, entirely unlike the Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger/Charger siblings.

>>15062379
Because you coulda had a V8.

>>15062379

>v6 mustang
>top speed limited to 110 mph

top kek my 2 liter ford focus gets up to 130

>>15066050
Miata is a momentum car, plus it handles like a champ.

>hurr durr whats a sports car

>>15063904
V8 comes in manual

you guys are cancer i swear.

>>15066138
Do you drive 130?

>>15066138
Burgurland Spec?

Gen 3 is 112-120mph limited except for ST
Gen 1 & 2 109mph limited except for SVT

>>15066368
i've seen that video too. I was talking about his Ford Focus. But yeah v6 mustangs have low top speeds. Truck motor v6 problems.

>The modern V6 Mustangs and Camaros have over 300 horsepower.

because its completely inferior to previous generation V8's.

>heavier
>similar power
>less potential
>similar fuel usage
>even more expensive
>more insurance cost

my 4th gen Pontiac T/A is 305 hp and weighs less than the v6 5th gen with the same hp

and its cheaper than a 5th generation car. so its cheaper and faster

and i prefer last gen styling anyway

>>15066138
I will say that the speed limiter originally was because of the drive shaft failing at ~130 mph but more so because of the economy tires fitted to the base models.

Same thing with my 2105 Jetta, 130 mph tires from factory and limited to 126.

It is somewhat comical that the mustang was limited to like 112 mph but I think the base tires were 120 mph rated.

>>15066035
>I commute 25 miles to get to work 6

oh shit bro thats like 1 US gallon of gasoline in a V8 muscle car.


enjoy your cuck mobile

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>>15062400
You could buy a formula 1 car and it would come with a v6

>>15062987
Slower than a shelby, a corvette, a hellcat or a Camaro

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>>15063924
>3800lbs
Why u lying

>>15062575
Did he seriously try to race a bike?

I wonder how expensive of a car you have to get to beat even the low end sportbikes.

>>15066830
It's a guy who riced out a V6 Mustang. Do you expect him to be smart?

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>>15066468
Previous generation V8s are inferior to the 3.7 cyclone desu.

>Lighter
>Way better mpg
>Enough potential
>Similar power with less cylinders.
>Inexpensive
>Less insurance cost

Why u lying senpai? The thing that bothers the most is that you are saying that a v6 is heavier than a v8 when that's complete bullshit.

>3.7 cyclone weight: about 350lbs
>4.6 SOHC weight: 500lbs

>>15066856
>4th gen F-bodies being powered by Modular 4.6s

>>15066856
>Lighter
>Way better mpg
>Enough potential
>Similar power with less cylinders.
>Inexpensive
>Less insurance cost

Sounds like you need a fucking Civic. Muscle cars are supposed to be excessive and unnecessary. Sounds like you're too poor for the muscle life.

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>>15066992
>Civics
>Unnecessary boring and excessively slow.

I want something somewhere in the middlej desu senpai.

Also:
>Muscle cars.
>Expensive.
Stop memeing faggot.

>>15062379
>Why do you guys hate them?
becuz meme told me muh veeate is the best in everything xDDD

>>15067028
When the car is offered with both it's pretty clear what to get. V8s have their places, and one of their places is in these cars.

>>15063033
Those 5 speed Mercedes auto's are shit. If only they'd have the newer ZF 8 speed.

>>15067060
Thank you for sharing your opinion. Unfortunately, it's been discarded due to your inability to do something as basic as forming plurals.

>>15067091
>Those 5 speed Mercedes automatic gearboxes are shit. If only they'd have the newer ZF 8 speed.

Fixed it for you. It's auto's in my native language, so I'm used to typing that instead of autos. Still, those older NV units are shit compared to the newer outsourced ZF ones.

>>15067011
>Muscle cars.
>Expensive.

less than half the mpg of many econoboxes
generally eats through tires faster
higher insurance costs

Sounds more expensive to me, especially when gas creeps back up to $3.80 a gallon

>>15067115
Oh, that's rare. Danish? Dutch? One of them does it. Or both...

But obviously I agree, if only because of just 5 gears.

>>15067138
Dutch

>>15067138
>if only because of just 5 gears.
More speeds doesn't always make for a better gearbox. The NV unit has archaic software, is extremely unresponive, doesn't hold shifts very well etc. It shows it's age a lot, and a well built TH400 or 4L80 would probabpy feel better, despite being 3 and 4 speed units, respectively.

Then again, those cop Chargers having a shitty 5 speed autobox makes them really tempting to pick up, and stuff a manual into them. Any manual transmission from a Challenger should work.

>>15066035
So you had the money but didn't buy the V8 for ...reasons?

>>15066035
Not getting the Z/28 is understandable because it's a fucking monster. A V8 Camaro is perfectly liveable.

>>15066035
Fuck you, reason has no place on /o/

>>15067213
But he didn't provide a reason.

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>having less than 10 cylinders
Kek

>>15067245
Too bad there aren't any V10 ponycars.

>>15066748

>v6

Nice goalposts you're carrying there

v6 sounds like shit

>>15067236
I said reason. Not a reason.

>>15067289
Reason implies existence of a reason.

>>15067303
plz conzult you are nearest dicktionary

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>>15062379
better than diesel sports car

LOL

>>15067830
That's a long distance autobahn hauler. Not a sportscar.

Do you even know what the M stands for? Is this bait? I don't even know nowadays.

>>15067845 meant for >>15067839

>>15067845
>Do you even know what the M stands for

It stands for M-Devision developed and fitted parts.
It does not automatically imply sport. Optional M-Packages have been a thing for ages, often times just being bodykits.
The M550d has a stiffer setup and a lot more power&torque. How does that make it sport?

>>15067854
>wilfully ignorant and proud of it

TOP KEK
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>>15067198
Well you must have a $2000.00 mac book and just get on facebook right?

>>15067209
That's a fairly poor argument. As long as you don't drive like a jackass they're all livable. There are people on this site right now that have hellcats, even worse, there are people on this site right now that are still paying off that car. Why? So you can get on the interstate faster? They paid that much to get off the live 1 second faster? Do you also have a workstation GPU and play Runescape?

>>15067940
>they're all livable
Not if you live in a country with roads made out of potholes

>>15062447
The Grand National was a wonderful thing and I personally love them, even knowing how over the hill they are nowadays. But Cadillac has picked up that torche with the ATS-V (and V-sports in general), and they've done it in a way that I think is a worthy sucessor to the GN.

>>15067940
A hellcat is not in any way comparable to a Z/28 apart from the price. A Z/28 is a track monster. A hellcat is still a nice cruiser, just with a lot of power.

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American cars are boats compared to most imports. Also, 90% of the people who drive V6 Muscle cars are chics. If you did not have the money to get a proper american car, you should have gotten something else or saved more. Pic if of my wives glorious coyote

>>15063175

should try to find a sport package one

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>>15066992
What's the point of being excessive and unnecessary? My OCD prefers efficiency.

3cyl master race. Takes less space, weights a lot less, super MPGs and if you claim that you need more than 150hp a diet is in order.

>>15069040

Were talking modern muscle and pony cars that weight 4000lbs not hothatches. They're supposed to be unnecessary and excessive. There's absolutely no reason why we need to be stuffing small, inferior engines into theses cars. If you can't afford the big engine don't buy it.

go stick your 3banger in whatever you want, just not a muscle car. It's bad enough most of Europe and the rest of the world are cucked by small engines, lets try keep North America manly for as long as possible.

>>15066771
He just counted it with the 400lbs burgerfat driver

Other than the sound, I'd personally take a V6 pony car for daily driving. I drive a 5.0 Mustang and the fuel costs alone are insane. I drive like an old person to save the money, and it takes all the fun out of it. I honestly wish I bought the V6 or Ecoboost most of the time.

That said, it is worth it on the track. But I only track it maybe once every 2 weeks.

>>15069963
That makes sense

>>15069156
Small engines are not a bad thing. The thing that's killing the car industry is weight. Low weight is the best weight.
A Miata with Nissans 1.5L 3cyl that makes 400hp would be pretty sufficient for most.

>>15070659
One of the funnest things I've ever driven was a 4AGE swapped KE70. Only made about 180-200hp but it also weighed something like 1800lbs.

I hate this threads where OP doesn't give up until someone agrees with him and pats his back. What a useless thread.

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>>15072722
You're even more useless than the tread itself

>>15062575
LMFAO...Your bike would be a good match for my car, difference is, I'm running 20 PSI on a real cobra.

But, he won't give ya the car...Dumb fuck might even try to hit your bike once he gets lolraped.

Just put it in 6th gear and half throttle, beat the fucking life out of him, and be done with it.

If he gives ya the car and title, his dad will just get it back or call the police. Make him fucking sign the title, and take it to the crusher.

kekd

>>15072629
I can fully understand that

>>15066260
Yeah, they're poorfags.

>>15074556
sleep tight nigger

>Muscle Car
>No Muscle

The fuck you think? You buy a muscle car for cheap power, anything less is a compromise that doesn't even make sense. You may as well buy an Accord/Camry and be .5 seconds slower while saving on gas.

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>>15077427
>.5 seconds slower
>Not 1.5 seconds
>Not buying a v6 with 300+hp and great mpg
>Not putting some bolts on to make 350hp in a 2011+ mustang.
>Not turbocharging it with the 10k dollars you save buying a v6.
>Not using the extra moeny to buy a roush exhaust.

Nigga v6s are oretty dope right now desu desu senpai.

>>15062379

There are a couple of reasons, but the biggest is the same thing that makes posters shit their pants on /v/ or /tv/, it's not the object that they hate, it's the people associated with it, even if that association is just some baseless generalization. Base mustangs / camaros have always been fine cars but because they are often bought by idiots they are associated with idiots, so you get a circular logic loop that these are cars made for idiots.

The second part of this is that /o/ is filled with children that can't be bothered to understand car history, relative power, product classes and marketing. All they understand is power and sucking the dick of their favorite brand because they don't have an identity outside of being an "______ car brand" guy.

The mustang is a cheaply made, inexpensive 'sporty' RWD coupe for middle americans that has always prioritized being affordable and 'fun' over being some kind of world-class sports car. It's had I6, V6, I4, and V8 models and all of those have been great, and sucked ass at various points in the history of the car. The baseline models is what keeps them being built because again middle america views them as a fun alternative to boring commuter cars even at their least powerful, and that in turn funds the V8 models that car lovers and inbred morons alike adore if only for the noise and the ability to afford so much power for so little.

Mustangs are also a famous case of "get the car to suit you" they've always had tons of models, tons of options, and lots of little pointless detailing to style the car to suit the owner. A mustang is purposefully modular and has to cover a wide range of consumer tastes and needs. Again this isn't a sports car, and "muscle" car is an extremely niche term that idiots apply to far too many things. A few mustangs are muscle cars, most are RWD fun-mobiles for women, teenagers, and people that are tired of their 10 year old hyundai.

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