Trap or treasure?

>>15051025
>trading away your dd and going into debt for a 35 year old muscle car.

protip: don't

>i'm a poorfag
no shit

>>15051025
I don't think it would be a disaster waiting to happen, but 6k seems really high. I thought firebirds from this era typically ran like 2k to 4k

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Bought my '91 GTA last September and I couldn't be happier. It's a five speed and it's incredibly enjoyable to drive.

I'm assuming the '88 that's listed is a 350 / auto? If you say you can't do anything beyond basic fluid changes this might not be the car for you. It's old. It will break and need repairs.
Turdgens aren't really a 'brick shithouse'. They're pretty shitty honestly in build quality.

If you could get it for 5k maybe consider it. Don't park it outside, park it in a garage. Don't want to see a nice GTA go to shit condition because some kid can't take care of it or afford it.

>>15051025
Had one in 1988, kept it for 5 years before I sold it for a Toyota truck.

In that time, I had zero problems with it. Like seriously none. But I bought it new. Now it's like almost 30 years old and will surely need maintenance and stuff replaced. Also, it gets shit mileage. Gas back then was like $1.00 a gallon so it wasn't a big deal. If you're poor, I would recommend you stay away.

One more thing, if it has the digital dash, definitely pass. I had that in mine and it drove me nuts after the "oh wow cool" factor wore off.

>>15051092
Even when my dd is costing $500-$1500 each time something goes wrong with it? The fucker is meh teir 02 Acura TL. If my parents didn't work a dealership, it would be even more each time it broke.

>>15051093
I can probably talk it down to 5K. Maybe.

>>15051159
>I'm assuming the '88 that's listed is a 350 / auto?
Yuh.

>If you say you can't do anything beyond basic fluid changes this might not be the car for you. It's old. It will break and need repairs.
I might have to git gud then. The Acura is a bitch to wrench and the parts are pricey. Is the firebird easier to work on?

>>15051161
>Also, it gets shit mileage
The Acura is probably worse. 15 mpg city / 23 Highway.

>if it has the digital dash, definitely pass
Is it really that bad? Shid.

>>15051191
Digi dash was horrible. It was distracting at night. Like driving with a lit christmas tree in front of you. All the different colors and moving indicators. It was hard to tell what your engine was doing. With analog gauges you just glance down and if the needles are pointing where they should be, it's OK. With the digi dash you have to look at the display and see where the indicator is. Sure you get used to knowing where it's supposed to be, but it's not as quick as analog gauges.

If you're hellbent on getting it, a random dude on the internet isn't going to dissuade you. So if you do, make sure to get it checked out and be ready to spend money on it to keep it tip top. This is true of any car that old. SB350 is a good engine. The auto transmissions of that era I've heard aren't very good, but if you again maintain it, should be alright.

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I can find these for $3000 with lots of new parts and shit. That dealer is raping you.

I hope you realize they make about 200whp, are carb, and have a weak manual transmission.

4th gen f-body is better in every way and isn't much off $6k... Do not buy it.

>>15051191
It's slower than your TL.

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>>15051191
i have an 89 gta with a 350 auto, when things go wrong, specifically common stuff for old cars like that, rlated to engine, brakes etc. the parts actually aren't that bad considering most of the stuff are parts that have been remanned, and the company selling those parts will usually take your old part. For example I just replaced a power steering pump on mine and it only cost me 50 bucks. It could potentially be a good car to learn how to wrench on, it certainly has for me, I personally would go to the dealer and go over it myself after checking the vin, test drive it and make sure everything is ok with it. You'll hear a lot of people say they are slow cars (which is admittedly true) but for not a lot of money they can be fast cars.

>>15051380
Where do you get your parts? I assume online, but do normal auto stores carry them?

>>15051419
To be totally honest I have no idea, my dad works part sales at a dealership and gets the parts for me then I pay him back. I'm sure with a little minor research you could find companies that do that, can't imagine they're very uncommon.

>>15051444
Fair enough. I can probably do the same thing. Also, checked.

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>>15051256
If I get gud, then I can make if preform better than the TL, right? If not, then I can consider a 4th gen. I need to come out of this without a finicky dd and with a fagmobile.

One last question to everyone before I cave in and buy it regardless. I'm going to need to put it through a 600 mile round trip (300 down, 3 days rest, then 300 back) and a 2000 mile trip (1000 down over two days, 7 days rest, then 1000 back over two days)

Assuming I get everything is working order, what are the chances that it breaks down on either of those trips? A guess works.

>>15051501
definitely 50/50 chance

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>>15051191
Wrenching isn't THAT bad, yes you will have to git gud.

Things WILL break.

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6K is crazy high for a firebird. Where do you live OP? You can buy these things for 3K in good condition easily in the states. I bought mine for $500. Granted I've done a bunch of work to it. But 5k is way too high for a third gen, unless it's been heavily modified for the better.

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>>15051501
They have heat problems since they have no grill. Make sure your radiator is clean, and you've filled up the coolant. The fan needs to be working obviously. But for a road trip that's the biggest issue I can think off that will occur over long miles.

>>15052091
Ohio. I have no idea why it's high either. I suspect the VIN check is going to be completely clean to warrant such a high price.

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>>15052110

>have 82 camaro
>with the grill slats
>brand new radiator
>two (2) huge electric puller fans

What is heat?

Pic related, mine.

>>15052361
Sexy baby you got there, anon.

>>15051092
>2016 - 1988 = 35

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>>15053159

Thanks. Glad you like it :D

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>>15053323
>tfw all the turd gens in my area are either auto, rusted, or boomer tax'd

feels bad

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>>15053333

Sadly it's not entirely rust free. There's some pretty small spots scattered around the body where the paint is lightly bubbling, and the underside has a fair amount of surface rust, while the floor pan corners are starting to get holes. Minnesota winters + road salt = feels bad man. Only reason I drove it this winter was because only car + I know for a fact the owners before me did as well. At least it's not TOO bad off.

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>>15053364

Also forgot to mention, in case you've never seen me post about it here, it's a swapped '73 350 that's cammed, and a 4spd manual with a short rear end.

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My old bird, '83. Probably one of my favourite cars I've ever owned.

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>>15053392

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>>15053392

>tfw picked this up super cheap
>owner swapped a rebuilt 2nd gen 400 in it with bored heads + some other things I forgot, was building it for drag racing
>brand new motor, never even drive cause guy got it built then ran out of money and got busy with life shit

Car looks like trash but the motor is gonna be a beast. Sadly automatic..

>>15053412

Yeah mine looked like a total turd, but built 355 worked pretty good. Put a good shift kit in the auto and you won't even care, banging second in a three speed auto with a shift kit is extremely satisfying.

Definitely agree priced way too high. That's 4th gen prices round here. But can be a great car to learn a lot on. I would pay 4k for it, but not much more.