2016 Ford Fiesta ST or 2016 Mazda MX-5?

>>15048583
1962 Ford Galaxie with a 427 and 3-speed gearbox.

>>15048588
That car literally weighs more than the two cars I listed combined.

>>15048600

>That engine literally weighs more than the two cars I listed combined.
fix'd
Thank god the 427 can be pushed up to 600hp without forced induction.

>>15048583
Fiesta ST, or wait for the MX5 RF

Get a Mazdaspeed miata and get the best of both worlds and spend the rest on a bigger turbo and intercooler and a tune, voilà 250whp at 2400lbs

Miata
Is
Always
The
Answer

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>>15048583
You know the answer.

>>15048583
Not sure why you're comparing these, they're totally different.

>Ford
Faster
More space, seats 4
Wrong wheel drive
Shit reliability, especially with the automatic

>Mazda
Slower
Smaller, seats 2
Gay
Way more fun
RWD
Reliable
Literally a god machine even though it's slow af

>>15049766

>fiesta ST
>automatic

ya blew it

>>15049969
>autism
It's basically an automatic. Just even more unreliable

>>15050175
???
The fiesta st doesn't come in an auto

>>15049766
Actually the Fiesta St is slower in a straight line

>>15050175

how is a manual "basically an automatic?"

I mean, if this is the point where you tell me you were just pretending to be retarded, I guess I'd be okay with it

>>15048583
I sell cars Miata is the way to go

>>15050241

Guys guys guys
>>15049969 was saying that auto STs don't exist. >>15050175 thinks auto STs do exist, and he's saying that a DCT is basically an automatic, which incorrect, since it is not just basically an automatic, but 100% an automatic.

>>15049766
Is the Fiesta really that unreliable?

>>15051350
>an automated manual is 100% an automatic
b-b-but mah semantics!

>>15051350
>DCT is basically an automatic

Ok, I am likely buying a FIST in the next year, but this is the first I have heard of this.

It has a clutch. How is that not just a manual. What voodoo are we talking about.

>>15051916
>>15051643
If a transmission has a "D" mode, it's an automatic.

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>>15048583

FIATA
IS
ALWAYS
THE
ANSWER

>>15051922
The ST come in manual only dipshit. No DCT. no auto.

>>15051922
>in my opinion
Cool story

>>15051922
>Initial D

>>15048583
>drive both
>make up your own damn mind

If you have a second vehicle I'd get the MX-5, if it's your only transportation I'd get the Fiesta.

They serve pretty different functions.

If you're getting an ST don't bother with a 2016, just get the cheapest one you can.

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>>15051928

this

MemeX5

>>15051928
I really wanted to like the fiata. I think it looks fucking amazing and makes the miata look like it's angry retarded cousin, but they had to go and fuck with the engine.

>>15053852
I am looking at the used market for Fiesta ST's and the price difference between a used 2014 and new 2016 is barely $2k. I'll just buy new. Also, the 2016 has some slight upgrades from 14/15. (Ford Sync 3, and I think different ecu flash)

>>15048622
I haven't thought an MX5 look this goofy since the NC was born.

Vert+hardtop will cover all bases and save weight

>>15051928
>Fiat car
>Alfa engine
Well it will be more exciting, never knowing when your next breakdown will be.

>>15054128
What the fuck are you talking about. It's a mazda car (very reliable) with the Abarth 1.8T engine, which is known for actually being very tough, despite being Fiat built.

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>>15048583
The Ultimate decision