Cheap money fast speed

There's literally no car faster in that price segment

350z

Stock LS1 F-body would still smoke it.

>>15044467
>>15044472
>lost to a cobalt
>now spends his days shitposting on 4chan

If you're looking for speed in 10K, buy a ninja. Not a car.

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Yoyoyo swaaaaag I got the hottest car in the [trailer] park.

>>15044476
>330whp
>2800lbs

>f body
>3500lbs
>350 hp
>maybe 280 to the crank

how about no

but it looks like shit

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>tfw smoke slowbalts daily

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>Downpipe and tune
>still stock

that's now how this works, buddy

>>15044499
>trifecta tune + downpipe
>$600
You can't even find another car with that kind of huge horse power jump for that cheap

>>15044494

You forgot

>FWD
>Shitbox tranny
>Spend the same amount on a cam for the f-body and get raped some more

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>>15044368

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/5575390363.html

>>15044504
literally every turbo car. Huge gains from tunes. Go away.

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>>15044510
>Attempting to turn in a fbody
>still 3500lbs and slow as hell

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My Saab gets the same numbers with the same downpipe and tune
But your not driving a cobalt
And a v6 instead of a 4 banger

>>15044517
>gaining 100whp from a tune
Riiight, tell that to the subbie guys, they get excited over 30whp

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>>15044525
>3400 lbs

>>15044462
They're pretty evenly matched actually.
http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/lr4l5gj5ke0d

>>15044476
Again, pretty evenly matched.
http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/a9rvgpohj99j

>>15044498
evenly matched when stock. Add a tune and the Cobalt annihilates it.
http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/555sivua4bvf

Are cobalts the new civic? I see "tastefully modified" cobalts errwhere now.

>>15044512
Also this. 335i are cheap now and a tune gets you around 400whp and a shit ton of torque.

>>15044512

intake + IC + DP + Cobb race map = 401whp, 447 trq

>>15044512
>>15044542
>only 9k with 163k
wed lad that motors ready to go to the junk yard

>>15044530
Lots more torque
400 ft-lbs with just a tune

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>>15044518

>Attempting to turn off a cobalt

pontiac GTO

>>15044552
Same tune is 380 torque to the wheels and it's way lighter, the saab will never be performance based

>>15044534
0-60 is actually 5.5 seconds not 5.8-6

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Own a sedan and it has full bolt ons and a larger turbo, going e47 soon when its available

>>15044549
clearly you are not aware of what kind of engines the n54 are...

>>15044615
Can't tell if shit post but people had these engines blow up all the time. BMW does not make reliable engines, especially under high boost

>>15044604
This guy gets it

>>15044629
n54s arent the most reliable engine built, some bits around the engine like injectors, hpfp, turbos tend to fail. However, the engine itself is pretty much bulletproof.

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just bought a 2010 cobalt SS.

very nice cars and super underrated.

btw take notice that every single pic of a crashed cobalt from the ignition scandal is NOT a SS.

>>15044656
Lol fuck off, Google n54 and you will see people bitching about the engine every where. 135i was on my short replacement list but I ended up buying a s2k because of people complaining about n54 reliability

>>15044666
Nice man looks clean af

>>15044368
its a piece of shit that will turn itself off because of a faulty ignition switch

>>15044480
the only thing you can lose to a cobalt is your life and dignbity

>>15044697
thanks man!

previous owner treated it like his baby. its practically brand new, pretty sure no one ever sat in the passenger seats lol.

trying to find production numbers for 2010 SS in black granite metallic, anyone have any idea? cobalt sites are no help

>>15044687
so you turned gay ?

>>15044368
>stock
>downpipe and tune


proof slowbalt fangirls are retarded subhumans

>>15044733
>does 5.5 seconds stock
K

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Bullshit it makes 330 horse with a DP and Tune.

Attached digital dyno is full bolt ons, minus headers, 16g, on e85. EJ255

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>spend 1k on an EF shell
>spend 9k on a k20 swap plus turbo
>dont die because of a faulty ignition switch
>mfw

and dont bullshit me with "its not stock", because neither is a tune and a downpipe

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>>15044494
> 350 hp
> 280 to the crank

>>15044760
A tune for a turbo car is more important than bolt ons, trifecta tune gets 100whp

>>15044754
>does 100 to 0 against a tree in .1 seconds as soon as the ignition switch fails

deal with it, faggot OP

>>15044760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJmi90ClWEE

300 with dp and tune is seen all the time

>>15044767
trifecta is aids for cobalts please don't advertise for them fucks and their terrible "tunes"

>>15044764
still drive a shitty civic....

I did 1.01g today in my cobalt

>>15044781
Lmao you're an idiot, cobaltss.net talk's about trifecta all the time because they're the most reliable and biggest gain tune there is

>>15044790
you should go re read the forums el tardo

no one recommends vinces shitty rich "tunes"

hp tuners or gtfo

>>15044526
Maybe because they come ungimped from the factory? They get similar ending numbers for similar upgrades. I'm guessing most of it is GM just not being confident in their abilities.

>>15044796
>hp tuners
>a whopping 30 whp
Lol nigga are you for real no wonder you had no gains

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>>15044368
>tfw no god musheen

>>15044786
the civic is faster and wont kill you after the ignition switch fails

>in my cobalt
>my
>cobalt

lel im so sorry

>>15044802
you have no idea wtf your talking about at all. 30 hp from hpt? wtf you talking about you fucking mongoloid?

fags like you give the cobalt a bad name.

anyone with a brain in the last few years goes with a custom tune via hpt and trifecta is widely known as shit.

>>15044817
>literally being this fanboy tuner
Why is trifecta the most popular and reliable then?

>100whp from a tune

i rememeber my NFS phase too

>>15044824
years ago......

Cobalt SS was going to be my first car I couldn't afford it so I ended up buying a 00 Celica Gts . I still have the Celi 5 years later. I'm thinking of getting a cobalt but all of them in my area are trashed .

>>15044833
Everyone knows got runs lean

>>15044829
Except it actually does, that's why the turbo SS is hilarious

>>15044847
dude you're comparing a completely custom tune to a canned SHIT canned tune done by someone who abandoned the platform years ago.

>>15044837
Celica gts isn't bad first car though, teaches you a lot about driving right

>>15044854
it doesn't though

>hurr durr HP and trifecta add 100 whp i read it on a shitty forum
>superchevy tests it
>only 30whp in gains

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/0907gmhtp-2009-chevy-cobalt-ss-ecu-tuning/

>>15044883
Go to cobaltss.net moron, we're not talking about the gm stage 1 tune. Damn you're dumb learn to follow the thread

>>15044883
omg you guys are fucking retarded.

hpt is a tool to tune your car. just because the guy they used is a retard and doesn't know the platform doesn't mean everyone has the same results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He8nabIT4zg

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>>15044911
>>15044915
yup

slowbalt fangirls CONFIRMED for mouth breathers

>>15044931
Haha retard go here and get btfo

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/dyno-results-170/new-official-dyno-thread-2012-a-272372/

>>15044879
Yup its also reliable af and good on gas, it just hit 107k miles never given me any problems. If I sell it I can pretty much get what I paid for it 5 years ago . Next car will probably be an is350 .

>ITT people salty as fuck a shitty cobalt is faster than their cars
Thread is gr8 hi boys keep it up

>>15044941
none of the cars making over 260whp have "only a tune" you dumb faglord

>>15044542
>>15044548
Is this accurate? 400 to the crank sounds more likely. The tuned 335s I see at the track are generally pulling high twelves and trapping between 105 and 107. Had a long convo with a 335xi owner last weekend who knew what he was doing and was a hair slower than me with 1.8 60' times (ET and trap) and I'm around 350/350 at the wheels with AWD.

>>15044960
faster to shut itself off maybe

>>15044961
Either you can't read or are in pure denial,
> status: BTFO

>>15044960
Lol the shitbolt is slower around the nurburgring than a pig fat Australian pickup

>>15044941
he is full autism and wants cars with 0 mods and just a tune. lol....

fucking kids these days

Please stop shilling this shitty car. Even if it was the fastest car on earth, it'd still be a fucking hideous, ignition failing pos. Suitable for white trash only.

>>15044978
8:22 is slow for a shit box? Bet your car doesn't get within 5 seconds of it

>>15044988
8:22 lol, try 9 minutes according to the video released by gm

>>15045000
>hurr I'm retard and looked up the supercharged version

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Bought a 09 cobalt SS turbo for only 5k canadian which was like 3800 usd

170k kms
105k miles

100% stock

>>15045020
I love the white bro, good purchase!

>>15044971
>this mad no cobalt can make 330whp with "just a tune"

lol stay mad

>>15045020
Fuck dude it looks great in white

>>15045015
there is no video for the turbocharged one

maybe because its ignition switch failed and crashed

>>15045026
>literally first post
>down pipe and tune

>>15045032
>I only pretended to be retarded

>>15045015
No its the ss tc

>>15045062
It's literally on the fucking wiki index and multiple websites it was the fastest FWD until the megane. 8:22, don't make me do all the fucking work for you

>>15045052
>mad the cobalt laptime is made up

>>15045035
nice bullshit

none of the cars in the forum is making 330whp with a tune and a downpipe, keep backpedaling and grasping at straws

the first guy a modified intercooler and new ignition parts

>>15045073
And yet the only video released by gm shows it doing now where near that time

>>15045085
>official lap time
>made up
G R A S P I N G
R
A
S
P
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>>15045027
>>15045025

I mean it's fwd but it's my turbo shit box Id rather listen to a turbo spool on the way to work then the boring honda equivalent

>>15045095
> official video
> 9 minutes
Lol

>>15045095
>official
>no video proof

lol mad the cobalt time is fake

>>15045098
Nice...

>>15045104
>>15045109
This is just sad guys, your car is slower than a shitbox cobalt

>m m muh fake lap times!
Really pathetic

>>15045127
My pig fat pickup is faster than the cobalt sound the ring

>>15045127
faster to turn itself off and crash against a tree maybe

>defending a shitbox that turns itself off
Really pathetic

>>15045137

They recalled the ignition actually what difference does it make? Repaired for free and got an extra set of keys for free

>>15045131
>>15045137
How salty can you get? Your cars will always be slower than cobalt turbo

Dude you are so autistic. Why do you care so much that the cobalt shuts itself off and propels its inhabitants to certain death? Get a life.

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>>15045140
>>15045142
>>15045146
>slowbalt fangirls on LITERl suicide watch

lel not only is the nurburgring laptime fake, but they prob couldn't finish a lap because the car turned itself off and the guy crashed

>>15045142
But my Australian pickup truck is faster

>>15045154
>actually being this salty that your car is slower than a cobalt

>>15045154
Think about what you're doing right now. This is what your life has amounted to.

I don't even drive a Cobalt.

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>>15045159
can't be fast when it shut itself off

>>15045160
>doesnt even have a cobalt
>still defends it
>thinking he can give life lessons to anyone

>>15045167
The cobalt would be so far ahead of you that even if it shut off it would take you enough time to shit post on 4chan before you caught up

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>>15045175
>he actually belive this

>>15045169
In not defending anything. I don't care about Cobalts or whether their owners live or die. I'm making fun of you for the way you're choosing to spend your time. Quite frankly it's embarrassing.

>>15045175
Kek savage

>>15045179
the only embarassing thing is you taking a shitposting anime imageboard serious

>>15045167

Alphonse fuck off

>>15045188
>every guy that makes me mad is alphonse

There is some really salty people in this thread

>>15045186
I pity you.

>>15044368
>fwd

It just isn't worth it.

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>>15045200
i dont need your pity

slowbalt fangirls however....

>>15045179
Lol you know you're mad when you start making posts like this

>>15045205
>drives a miata
>calls others slow
Wewlad sure is fag in here

>>15045213
i dont have a miata?

>>15045215
Are you embarrassed to admit it now?

>>15044554
I feel like it was one of those faggots who decides to go to 4th into a single turn at 60 mph. Never driven a car in his life and t bones another person.

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>>15045222
>he actually belives i would ever buy a miata

>>15044472
>>15044467
I take my keys out of the ignition after turning the car on anyways

$10k will buy you an LS2 GTO, which is faster than a stock Cobalt SS. Or a C5.

>>15045202
handles better then most rwd cars.

over 1g on skidpad

ever drive one or just speculating?

>>15045241
cant find one in Canada, very rare.

>>15045247
Most rwd cars are f150s so yeah okay

>>15045253
wasn't sold in Canada.

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>>15045254
"cars" not trucks faggot

>>15045241
>my 170k mile truck motor in a coupe will beat your cobalt
came here to say this

>>15045231
You certainly drive something slow

>>15045247
fwd is objectively inferior for performance and entertainment. Understeering is gay and boring, oversteering is hetero and awesome.

>>15044368
05-09 mustang gt

>>15045272
It probably oversteers better than your car, can you even compete?

>>15045276
>h-hey guys i-i can totally drift too

fuck off

>>15045273
>buying a sports car with over 150k miles

>>15045276
Spinning out because the ignition switched off isn't oversteer

>>15044368
e36 m3 and with the spare 7k you can just buy 2 more for shits and giggles

>>15045272
drive a good fwd my friend it will change your outlook on things, I used to be like you and be FWD is gay blah blah then I drove a couple proper fwd cars.

my cobalt with just a powell rear sway bar over steers and is fun as fuck to drive.

go test drive a turbo cobalt and make sure it has the g85 diff option.

Also I just want to say that all 'Ring times are bullshit. There is no third party recording times or inspecting vehicles. There is no such thing as an official production car record, no sanctioning body exists. The times are all self reported in cars that may or may not be modified, on a track that can have times vary by as much as 20 seconds from one day to the next.

>>15045281
>oversteer
>drifting
Lol fucking new fags

>>15045271
>slow
funny way to spell " doesnt shuts itself off after the ignition switch fails"

>>15045179
Why are you feeding the shitposter?

>>15045287
Or, I can buy a RWD car and actually oversteer properly instead of some ghetto slide.

>>15045293
Be quiet, autist.

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>>15045283
top fucking kek

5 star post

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>>15045266
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D5zTIuaCgI

>>15045287
>go drive a car that will shut itself off and kill you

now thats just plain rude anon

>>15045299
You don't even know what oversteer is, first you thought it was driving and now you think it's sliding lmao

>>15045312
>first you thought it was blah blah blah

Nope.

>>15045282
Got mine for 10 with 120k

>>15045310
Why you so salty and slow? Did cobalt SS rape your family after it was done raping you? So sad

>>15045318
That's still high miles

>>15045318
got mine for 11 cdn with 42k miles

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>>15045319
>being this mad

>>15045328
>projecting this much

Yes but with proper care I'm sure it will last a while... I will read it bedtime stories and tuck her in every night

>>15045327
Cool story bro

>>15045331
the only projection you should do here is your insurance and healthcare costs after you almost dying and spending 0k on the hospital because crashing in a cobalt pu you in a coma

>>15044368
>front-wheel-drive

absolutely disgusting

cobalts getting absolutely BTFO ITT

>>15045349
>projection followed by insecurity for driving a car slower than a cobalt

>>15045349
show me a case of a cobalt ss/tc crashing due to ignition problems.

>>15045356
desu, it'd be a great car if it was RWD. like a mini camaro.

>>15045371
>not a great car
>faster than every ones shitbox in this thread
The butthurt is real

>>15045382
you seem very defensive and upset. are you trying to avoid purchase regret or something?

hate to break it to you but there are objectively better cars in every category.

>>15045393
Where's your evidence? Oh right you have non, there is no car faster in the track, are you mad that your car is slower than a cobalt because you keep spamming this thread

>>15045393
>projecting

>>15045399
> there is no car faster in the track

Lol. Where is YOUR evidence, retard?

>>15045406
so upset you can only green text? speak up, lil buddy, I can't hurt you over the internet.

>>15044687
>S2k
Wanted to say bad things to you. But youre cool

>>15045431
>repeating what I just said
Where's your evidence that there's a faster car on the track under 10k. I'll wait? What's that? you had all thread to find some and you didn't. Btfo

>>15045431
>projecting harder
I'm beginning to think you ride the bus

>>15045459
R33 gtr laps nurburgring in under 7 minutes and costs less than 10k

>>15045467
First of all under 7 minutes is impossible, second I assume you meant 8 and third, a great under 10k isn't even gonna be running in shape well enough to do any track time

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>>15045459
>>15044368
Too easy. For 10k you can have 500whp easy and a built chassis.

>>15045472
A 10k gtr will be in better condition than any cobalt

>>15044510
fucking mad

It's a good car and with the age of f-bodies and the lack of repair most of them have gone through that 4 banger is gonna smoke that f body

>>15044525
no argument
>>15044530
seriously these thing can get nuts quick, you need deep pockets but can be ultimate sleepers

>>15044554
Cobalt held up better than that pos italian POS

>>15045481
>fun on race car
Oh that's so sad you're retarded

>>15045482
You have to be Australian to be that stupid

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>>15045490
Thats just a picture shithead. You can do a lot more with a 3k GSX and 7k in mods than you can with a cobalt.

They even make a FWD version for cucks.

I win.

>>15045496
Like you Americans know anything at all about gtrs roflmao

>>15045498
Lol except that you can't and you provided no Proof. Finally you admit defeat, like a bitch but at least you tried

>>15045498
>still slower than a cobalt SS around the track
not to mention no gsx is 3k in decent condition

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>>15045515
I aint that nigga bud. I'm just saying I bested your OP. Nobody cares about full on gutted race car lap times. We live in the real world.
>>15045520
>still slower than a cobalt SS around the track
With 500hp, no. Even a lead block would make up for it.
>not to mention no gsx is 3k in decent condition
Who said anything about that?

>>15045524
>literally going full race car to beat cobalt SS
>still more than 10k
Looks like you lost buddy

Someone post the cobalt vs skyline picture please

>>15045541
>literally going full race car to beat cobalt SS
bolt on mods are full race car now?
>still more than 10k
lol no. not even close. you want to bench race stock cars, fine. you want to bench race modded cars like you are doing, cheaper to buy almost always wins.

8:01 Nurburgring stock LS1 F-body with passenger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AUtoT3ldng

>buy motorcycle, destroy car for cheap

stage 1 kits for the SS Turbo only put it at 290hp avg

its a good car but shit you could get a dodge neon srt 4 for cheaper and use the extra money to put more work into it and make more power.

flat out for a turbo srt 4 neon its like 8k and your making over 400hp

>>15045610
>inb4 bikes can't turn yet pull far higher g's than anything but supercars
srt4
dsm
fox body
f body
etc.

OP is just a fag who thinks the cobalt is like some great handling chassis or something. sage.

>>15045581
balls to the walls burgerking runs are always scary as fuck.

>>15045581
>stock
>lists mods below
Not sure if you're illiterate or stupid?

>>15045619
Except it is

>>15045698

Salty. stock as in the motor has no cam or forced induction.

Also, he was held up significantly by traffic, easily could have done around 7:40.

$7k mr2 turbo + $3k in mods shits all over a cobalt ss

>>15045705
I doubt sloyota could get even close

>>15045708
3k will get you 300whp at the low end in a lighter MR chassis

>>15045581
Jesus christ, fucking crazy ass germans. Things I learned from that video: most germans drive slow cars, they are all better drivers than 99.9% of americans, the nurburgring would be open for 30 mins in the US before being shut down.
>>15045700
yeah, no. its a POS econocuck fwd car keep lying to yourself. bet you can't even tell me the type of suspension front and rear, let alone torsional rigidity.

>>15045715
>let's go back to being angry that my car is slower
Not even op this thread is gold. Look how many jimmies he rustled

>>15044368
>Cobalt SS Turbo?
I can pick up an r33 with rb25DET in my country for under 8k why would i have a generic piece of pooo turbo FWD

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>>15045728
but anon, my car is faster in a straight line and on a track? and it wasn't built by unionized niggers led by american businessmen.

I'm just saying the cobalt is far from the best choice. Sorry I rustled your jimmies OP.

>>15045751
That's so sad that you can't read, I'll pray for you

>>15045756
are you high?

>>15045761
he's just blinded by anger, anon. he had a bad day.

>>15044666
>btw take notice that every single pic of a crashed cobalt from the ignition scandal is NOT a SS.
I like to point out how you can TELL every single one of those cars were female owned. Women are more likely to have 5 lb keychains so it doesn't surprise me none of the accident cars are SS's, even if the SS has the same ignition switch.

>a shitbox civic with a turbo will be faster on a straight line
>a shitbox miata with a turbo and hoosiers will be faster around a track

OP is a cuck faggot

enjoy your malfunctioning ignition switch

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>>15044368
>Stock
>Down pipe and tune

2001 XJR 380HP and you can get one for $3k.

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>>15044525
you picked the wrong saab.
~3000 for a nice example
~1500 for tune and exhaust will get you close to 300hp and the car is about 3250lbs.
4000 will get you 350hp. (turbo, injectors, tune, exhaust, bigger intercooler).

Why is Alphonse so butt blasted about Cobalts? They're a decent car and great for the money. More reliable than an SRT4, just have to find one that hasn't been hooned to fuck.

Also, that Saab looks like shit. Only boomers appreciate that body style. Cobalt SS is a good daily that still drops panties.

>>15048079

Ugly, 15 years old, over 1000 lbs heavier and less reliable. Why?

>>15048284
>paying 4000 for those mods
Nope. SAAB tuning is cheaper than that unless that turbo is a BorgWarner EFR or something.

>>15046738
The whole ignition "scandal" was evolution's way of getting shitty drivers off the road for good. Shame it only stopped 100 of them.

>uncle has been a GM guy and a mechanic since the 70's
>warned everyone 10 years ago about having too many keys on your keychain

>>15048063
prove it
>he can't

>>15048390
cobalts are shit, deal with it

>>15048427
well 1500 for a full exhaust (down, cat, all of it)
tuning you can do yourself.
A decent new turbo is ~1400.
I have no idea how much new injectors are, 200 Good inter cooler.
To do it right it ads up.

>>15048390
>Cobalt SS is a good daily that still drops panties.
that's pretty fucking funny right there.

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>>15048470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAyPcOwRHKs
>stock k24
>turbo
>e85
>550 whp
>wont turn itself off and kill you

stay buttmad baby

cobalts a shit

>>15048483
Lmaob he's way over 10k and so far removed from stock. I love k24s but you don't get over 500 whp on stock internals faggot. I owned one for YEARS

>>15044556
>under 10k
did president Trump make America great yet, time traveling space wizard?

>>15048530
you are clueless, they can handle 500whp just fine

there are hundreds of stock block builds all over honda forums

>>15048574
Except there isn't, and the way you're gonna get that power is on a k20 head with a k24 bottom with cams that are locked into vtec like all stage 2 cams

With a big turbo and e85 the ecotec is going to be making the same if not more, in fact there's a guy on cobalt SS making 589whp on stock internals on pump gas

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i'm 18 and just bought a opel omega 3.0 v6. i got it for like 2400 dollars in norway. fastes car ive driven.

OP got BTFO

Cobalt confirmed for shit

>>15044518
Actually you're not supposed to turn where that picture was taken. Its a dragstrip.

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>>15044368
Daily reminder based Srt's will always better.

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>>15050138
no it isn't.
http://www.superstreetonline.com/event-coverage/motorsports/130-0511-timeattack/

>>15050163
>SRTs dont turn itself off and crash

yes they are

>>15050163
holy shit faster than a bmw csl
>>15050169
srts are slow enough that they don't even break the top 15

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>>15050181
The Cobalt used was specially built for that event, as were a lot of cars that participated. What makes this noteworthy is a lot of the field had over 400 and 500 horsepower. The Cobalt had 245 HP from a GM stage 2 LSJ engine, and up to 295 HP from a temporary 50HP shot of nitrous.

>>15050163
Actually yes they are. I used to work on those shit box ss cobalts all the time when they were new.
The transmissions are shit, The suspension squeeked and rattled.
The front rotors are to small for the car. the Rear brakes would drag and cut grooves in the rotors
Over boosting the supercharged versions ate up the the impellers.
The turbo cars would leak oil from the camshaft sensors. they would also blow the charg pipes off the intercoolers.
Cheap shit box is still cheap, and the cobalt itsself is ugly as fuck.
Like I said based SRT'S are better. But don't believe me, I'm only a gm tech for fucks sake.

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>>15050249
>The front rotors are to small for the car.
fixed when the turbo model was introduced.
I will concede the rest.
The SS used a shit Saab F35 transmission that had numerous shifter issues. Ironically, the Getrag F23 manual transmission used by base model Cobalts was stronger and didn't have any of the problems of the SS F35 tranny's. Some of the SS owners have actually taken to switching to the base model F23 transmissions.

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>>15048589
>Except there isn't
pfft, whatever, stay in denial recallfanboy

>the ecotec is going to be making the same if not more
HAHAHAHAHA

HE IS ACTUALLY THIS DELUSIONAL

the STOCK psi on an LNF is around 14 psi
STOCK turbo pressure
we are not talking about stage1 or stage 2 GM tune or another aftermarket tune but stock pressure

a k20 with a similar turbo at 14 psi is easily making almost 350whp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej2uaOviCkg


lets not forget the best part, a civic wont shut itself off and crash due to a faulty ignition switch, TOP KEK

Slowbalt BTFO

>>15050298
>the STOCK psi on an LNF is around 14 psi
>STOCK turbo pressure
not the guy you were arguing with but the stock heads on any ecotec engine are very restrictive. There's a lot of meat there that can be ported off. porting and polishing the heads does WONDERS for the Ecotec's ability to breath. GM used to offer ported ecotec cylinder heads through GM Performance Division.

>>15050298
>projecting his level of denial
That's a stock turbo that's smaller, clearly you don't understand how turbos work lol

I just called you out on your shit, and I know more than you about k24's

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>>15050330
>gets BTFO
>u-ur projecting
the k24 turbo late model cobalt SS had is by no means a small turbo

its actually comparable to the 62mm one installed in the civic

come on, keep grasping at straws faggot, you got BTFO


>>15050329
>stock ecotec heads are shit

is that supposed to be my problem?

>>15044765
20% loss is pretty normal

>>15044629
>BMW does not make reliable engines
Most uninformed post ive read all day

>>15050488
>bait.jpeg

>>15050488
how do you get loss before the crankshaft?

>>15052320
Rod bearing

>>15044368
>getting smoked by a 4 banger
Fucking no-wheels on /o/ these days, no, your cousins 6.7 second cobalt isn't going to beat anything but beat up beaner civics in a race. It couldn't beat a new production ford focus. Why do kids come to /o/ to circlejerk the idea of racing go-karts?

>>15052510
cobalt ss turbo is 0-60 5.7,

LOVE smoking cobalts in my e46 m3. So funny.

>>15044764
Not stock

>>15044368
Or buy a 10 year old gixxer for less than 5k and smoke actually fast cars

>>15053677
>5k for gixxer
>5k again for gear, insurance and maintenance, with the added bonuses of zero practicality and surprise assrape from crossover moms

Please don't recommend sportbikes as cheap, viable alternatives to a fast dailyable car. It's disingenuous and they aren't comparable.

>>15044525
Dammmmmn mman that thing is clean af! #lowlife #lowcallyfamous #hellaflush

>>15044368
OP, you're incorrect.
The 370HP Jaguar XKR is the most power under 10k.

It'll obliterate the Cobalt SS.

>>15053904
>implying you can't easily daily ride a bike
My insurance is much cheaper for my bikes than my cars. Plus better mpg. Oil changes are no worse than a typical car, although you do go through tires quicker. If you don't go crazy with farkles you can easily daily a motorcycle for much cheaper than a car

>>15044504
>horsepower is the only measurement of performance.

>>15054296
I'd second this. You can get a really tidy one for £5k.

>>15054301
You can daily a bike. Never said you can't. It isn't practical though, which is why it's so uncommon. You have miniscule amounts of passenger/storage space (and you basically have to pick either a passenger or storage), and gear takes time and effort to apply and shed. It makes a lot of things impossible too: large grocery runs, moving anything oddly shaped or larger than a small dog, most typical dating scenarios, etc. And you sacrifice a lot of safety and comfort. And maintenance isn't the same, for instance, the oil change interval is about 5x shorter on bikes than cars.

I tried the bike DD thing last year. Shit does not make sense. It only works if the bike is a second vehicle, and you pretty much exclusively ride it on commuting to work and weekend joyrides. Which kind of makes the bike superfluous, especially if your transport budget is juat $10k.

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>>15044368

Cobalt ss turbo isn't sub 10k

Cobalt ss SC maybe but those are poop

I wanted one for a long time but im not sure how i'd justify getting one over say, a GXP solstice.

>>15044483
>mountain dew bottles on the the ground
Confirmed /o/tistic

>>15044368
>Fastest stock car
>Down pipe and tune
>Stock car

Are you actually retarded or do words just kinda blurt out in fits of autism?

>>15054501
I daily my 2015 Honda CBR300R but that's because it was a graduation gift from my parents and I don't have a car yet. Hopefully getting a 2005 Subaru WRX STI in the next couple weeks I can daily and have the bike for weekends, unless I decide to sell it. It really isn't the most ideal thing but I'd rather drive it 20 minutes to college than wait an hour on buses and other busfags.

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>>15054510
Here they''re 10k, infact they're 7-10
>>15054516
>stock 5.5 seconds to 0-60

>>15054510
There is only one Cobalt for sale on CL above $10k in Texas, and that guy is an "I no wut I got" retard. TC cobalts are listed at $6-8k here.

>>15054501
A lot of those things the OP didn't mention. Plus a lot of your post is just incorrect. You can have a passenger and storage on pretty much any bike with saddlebags/panniers and a top box. Plus for DD service a bike makes much more sense than a car aside from maybe being uncomfortable in the heat/cold/rain, and it's not like you are hauling a bunch of shit to work with you every day in a typical job. Maybe a lunch box and a change of clothes.

Aside from mx style dirt bikes I don't know any bikes that have that short of oil change interval.

I'm not even trying to convince you to DD a motorcycle, but it's doable. I have several cars and I still DD a motorcycle every day unless it's snowing/icy.

>>15054564
Okay you can try to convince anybody but a bike isn't DD''able a fucking miata is more of a DD than a bike.

>>15054576
>but a bike isn't DD''able
There are lots of people proving you wrong every day, but alright.

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fast with tune and super fucking sexy

volvo wins

>>15054595
>carrying any item larger than a back pack
>Driving on a rainy shitty day
>helmet hair like a mother fucker


Other than that it's still not ddable

>>15054608
As someone who exclusively rode a motorcycle for 9 months and through Oregon winter, you're full of shit.

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>>15054608
Do you not know what panniers are?

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>>15044368
Maybe an old Volvo 850 T5 with ~$5k in mods. FWD but it could hang with performance cars (Porsche, BMW, etc) when it first launched back in the 90s

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>>15054620
>>15054628
what now

>>15054564
Oil changes are 600mi for most bikes. 5x shorter than even frequent oil changes at 3000mi on most car. Most other parts follow a similar trend.

>>15054654
>Oil changes are 600mi for most bikes
No. Offroad bikes maybe.

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>>15054628
Congrats you are now able to carry two small melons.

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>>15054620
>hey guys just doing a grocery run

>>15054658
I looked at my bike (ex500) a gixxer 600, a Kawasaki Vulcan just to confirm. They all list 600mi.

>>15054674
Are you sure you aren't reading the first service interval? Even my factory offroad racing bike has a 600mi interval with a pretty small oil capacity

>>15054540
I never said it didn't do 0-60 in whatever. I'm implying that OP is retarded and can't follow his own speech. If you're going to talk shit about your car and why it's good don't fucking contradict yourself in the first three sentences.

>>15054602
A POLESTAR for under 10k?
The Regular C5 certainly, but it doesn't come an LSD

>>15054691
You're right I'm a retard. I blame my parents.

>>15054720
the tune is like 900 at the dealership

hell you can get better aftermarket ones for cheaper too

but these still seem to hover right around 10k

so to make it fast you probably need like 13

>>15044498
After you spent at least twice as much as the cobalt owner.

>>15048427
Hey, how good are the late saab engines for tuning? I have a b205r in my 202 93, and for the "high output" version, it's really quite mellow. Also should I get a better rear sway bar?

>>15054995
10k...

They hover at +30k € in here.

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>>15045489
Have you ever heard of a crumple zone?