/ccg/ Classic Car General

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first for wagon

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>>15028352
Second for my wagon, nice bro

Early for
>tfw no crown Vic front suspension swap

To those in the know, what would be more cost effective. Regearing my Dana 60 to 3.83 or 9 inch swap? Drag racing in a street strip build would be the long-term goal

>>15028490
Buy any old Crown Victoria and drop the truck on the vic frame, it's a popular swap.

Anyone in the Phoenix area willing to check out a pair of cars for me? If they pan out, I'll pay you a couple hundred bucks for your trouble.

https://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/5574219818.htmlhttps://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/5570509863.html

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>>15028352
>>15028472
I like you guys.

>>15028624
If I remember correctly the imperials had reversely threaded lug nuts on the drivers side of the car, like alot of other Chrysler/Dodge cars of the time.

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As I look around on the Internet and general time and wanting of things goes up and down, I am now getting in the mood again of wanting a Triumph TR6.

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>>15028624
gone already

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My grandfather's 1937 Chrysler Airflow. It was used in a Chrysler commercial a couple of years ago.

>>15029580
Bad spacing on my part; here are the proper links:
https://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/5574219818.html
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/5570509863.html

>>15029827
>All these dildos calling it a "Chrysler Imperial"
>Not just calling it an Imperial like it is
Those are some decent prices for sure, though

>>15029855
I know. I'm torn because I prefer the 4-door, but '65 is my favorite year. To get either car, I'd have to sell my Cadillac; due to space, and it would need to be able to be driven back from Phoenix to Houston; if I can get someone to inspect either car, I'd fly out there and drive either one back in a heartbeat.

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>>15028352
>>15028472
Nice rides

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Does my truck count as classic?

>>15030042
Yes

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>>15030077
Noice

>>15029580
>that dash
You can't get more comfy than that.

>>15030118
It's incredibly simple, yet it still looks good, when they're in good shape that is

>>15029751
>owns an actual airflow
props dude, that's a piece of history

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>>15028550
I need to look up dimensions but mines a long bed bruh. might be difficult.

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Greetings. Enjoy my shitbox from the smogging 70s! There are no floor pans to speak of, the transmission slips in reverse and has a fuckton of overlap between 2-3, It's slow as fuck what with the 250 inline six.

I deleted the passenger side wiper for weight savings and painted the hood rice boi racing black.

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>people who "restore" their car but paint the engine the wrong color

>>15030347
>edelbrock chrome valve covers
>yellow engine paint

Engine status: built

>>15030339
I also have to mention you MUST drive with the window down, for two reasons.

1. The defroster motor seized and almost burned the car to the ground.
2. The holes in the floor pan allow for the holes in the exhaust to leak into the cab.

>>15030370
fix your shit, you niggerfaggot

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>>15030383
I'll do a frame up someday when I buy a car rotisserie.

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>>15030347
>at a car show
>guy has a 57 olds
>engine is painted ford blue
>is supposed to be pic related
People literally make the color paint your shit right.

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>>15030430
>tfw muh ford blue is more fukt than anons mum
feels bad man

>>15028329
tfw no imperial with 4 speed

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Looking to get the engine/trans built this summer.

Need a new radiator for a ford maverick. Nappa and any main retailers aint got shit. Where can i find a good cheap radiator?
Thanks in advance.

>>15033517
Rock auto?

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>>15030347
>buy my project car
>PO did a shit job at everything
>repainted the car without removing the old paint
>shitty dimpled black paint flakes off all the time
>old gold paint wasn't even that bad
>painted the inside of the door panels and roof blue for some reason, looks awful
>paints the entire engine bay orange
At least it's Chevy orange but it looks kind of weird

Also btw guys, my jeep is making a lot of clunking noises. Especially when I first get going or make a turn, it goes clunk-clunk-clunk-clunkclunkclunkclunk as I pick up speed. Alternatively, "thump." Is this my u-joints? I was going to replace all my bushings this summer as well.

>>15033517
Rockauto is going to be your best bet. Should be about $200 and whatever for shipping. Your other options are patch it if possible or junkyard it. There are quite a few compatible Fords you can pull parts from. If you patch it for fucks sake pressure test that bitch long and hard, and even then keep your fingers crossed. I got lucky.

Nobody here is in the Phoenix area? I'll pay a $100.00 for a few photos and a video of two cars.

>>15033583
Some people are just awful.

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bump

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QUICK

Post guilty pleasure dadrock to cruise to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCDWTLPAFCM

>>15035892
Sorry, I cruise to death metal mostly. No dad rock to post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKtG3UxscZg

>>15035892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc-xXOE1Jws

This is my wheelhouse, after all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WWHdBuOC6Q

I'm going to see how long I can keep going with songs that mention cars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRFnnVMawpY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr9ie2J2690

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftknR1gf9qw

>>15035892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgnbDMjdsTs

>>15036055
the unofficial theme of ccg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zip4QyJyD5g

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Semi weekly drunken shitpost of my shitty turdbird

I promise I'll fix it up by summer. I hope.

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>>15038066
Don't fall for her tricks lad, shes a total slut

>>15038098
so lewd baka senpai

Have you guys ever gotten a trip slip from the DMV? What is the process?

Is it:
>go to DMV
>Wait 5 hours
>Get a trip slip for 1 day
>Go home
>Day is over, trip slip no longer valid

I need to drive my car to a frame shop about 3-5 miles away to see if they can fix my crashed frame. Car will not have a hood in place, and might catch some attention.

>>15038119
It's easy as fuck in Canada.
>Drive to your favorite insurance center with car registration
>Ask for a day pass
>Pay $30 and be on your merry way with a piece of paper for your back window

Takes about 5 minutes

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This car is banned at LeMans

>>15038155
Thank christ.
It still pains me to think of all the Imperials destroyed in crash derbies

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>>15028329
So I need /ccg/'s help.
There is a 1966 chevelle near me that I want.
Dude's asking $4,500 and I have it, but I was just given a truck by my father, and there are issues with the car.
The issues are mostly comfort and cosmetic - the interior is trashed (looks like someone ripped it out), the front suspension needs Jeebus, the body has random dings, and the paint is half done.
All in all, to get it fixed (short of dings and paint) I would be set back $2,000-3,000
Should I get it and grow my fleet/ flip it?

I took some more pictures than this one, and here is the CL for it.

https://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/5578015897.html

>>15038170
I hate demo derbies with a passion. The sheer number of beautiful cars that they have destroyed is a crime. Nobody who enjoys them can call themselves a car enthusiast.

>>15038186
You can see said gift truck in the back, it's an 01 silverado 2500hd 4x4. The gas mileage between the two autos will be comparable, so that really isn't an issue.
Budget for a new car would be around $5,500

>>15038198
THERE SHOULD BE A LAW!
GTFO commie lib

>>15038210
There should be a law

>>15038186
The powerglide transmission SUCKS. They are some of the most soul-crushing automatics ever made; if you can live with that, they ARE robust.

Interior work is costly; to get that nice, you're looking at $4k to $5k, but that can be done slowly.

If you're proficient in mechanical work, expect about $1,500.00 in suspension/steering work. All signs pointed to an idiot owning this car who tried to live out his boy racer fantasies. Every bit of rubber in the suspension and steering will have to be replaced, as well as the joints; anticipate servicing the rear end and replacing all the body mounts as well.

If you can work on it yourself, don't mind a non-stock restoration, you MIGHT be able to get it done for close to $4k. If you will have to pay someone to do it, expect to spend close to $15k to have it restored and made reliable; BEFORE paint and body work.

>>15038186
Keep the truck.

I'd say go for it if it wasn't a four door.

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>>15038098
>that rear
I love ferds. forgot I had this pic.

>>15038250
Thanks. I unfortunately just moved, and no longer have a garage.
Guess I will have to pass.

>>15038198
Nothing wrong with a good demo. You;d be surprised at the amount of work that goes into a 5ft/f outlaw car.

>>15038256
I like four doors :)
I'm a fat guy, who likes fat chicks, and the sedans are always a couple of grand cheaper at comparable quality levels.

>>15038210
I don't believe in the creation of senseless laws; though, it amazes me that people can actually destroy such beautiful cars. It's a crime against nature and the car hobby.

Though, if there were a proposed law to ban all vehicles over 25 years of age from being included in demo derbies, I would support that. If we have to preserve crappy buildings and gay bars as a part of our collective history, then we can surely protect classic cars.

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>>15038262

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>>15038295
Thunderbirds so gud

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>>15038308
LANDAU
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kek

who pre /Woodstock/ here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKAwPA14Ni4

>>15038270
There is always something wrong with intentionally destroying classic car. Period.

What mpg would a 67 Elco with 350/400 and 3.73 gears?

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>>15038262
hot has fug

holy fuck fuck this captcha

>>15038339
12 probably. maybe 14 if you lean it out on the highway

>>15038339
probably 11 mpg city, 12-14 granny driving if you're lucky

>>15038344
>>15038350
The price we pay for fun

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>>15038343
shit's cool mayn

>>15038373
That's why I'm glad my diff gears in my Thunderbird are 2.70. It gets poor city mileage at 9-10 but I get a solid 22 mpg at 120 km/h

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>/ddt/ ded yet again

>>15038577
It's okay, we spawned /ddt/ out of /ccg/ you're always welcome here, my son

>>15040214
Post first gen Toronado and Riviera pls

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>>15040240
first gen Toronado is best

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>tfw this car is still for sale but I cant afford it now
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rch/cto/5512450793.html

>>15040488
>>15040505
Muh fucking

>>15040505
>>15040488
>front-wheel drive

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>>15040505
Hot damn that's a nice price.

But what do you guys think of this price?https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/5578953193.html

I have been going back and forth with the seller and he knows almost nothing about the car.

>>15041131
>https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/5578953193.html
I would, so fast.

>that fucking offpink/beige interior
my dick

>>15041255
I know, it's so fucking nice. I'm talking to the owner about it and he just knows nothing about the car. He doesn't know the mileage, if it has the original engine, or tranny. He told me it has some surface rust so I requested some pictures of it, I will post them when I get them.

>>15041283
That thing would score so much fucking rockabilly puss its not even funny, it really does look great on the outside, the paint looks incredible.

There are these two guys at my local track with these ratty Caddies and one of them is a 70 I forgot what year the other one is, but its the same vibe, original paint/interior, lowered, mexican throw blanket, it just looks so fucking fun to be in

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>>15033583
lol that feel

>PO rebuilt engine and "restored" the car
>Single stage paint job, no clear coat
>Didn't maske off anything on the car, suspension and wiring is now covered in paint
>Grill and bumpers painted with one coat of rattle can black
>Underside is sprayed with truck bed liner
>Who knows how much rust they just sprayed over
>Thought the carbs needed rebuilding
>Nope, PO installed the fuel pump upside down
>Fuel line taped to the radiator

I've unfucked pretty much all the shit in the engine bay, and the car looks pretty great all things considered, but fuck is it annoying fixing the mistakes of people that don't know what they're doing.

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>>15041377
Fuck, that sounds like the goof that I bought my car from.

>Single stage paint job, no clear coat
>Sprayed over half of the trim
>Did a shitty fuel injected engine swap job
>Fuel pump was half assed installed into the trunk
>Didn't update the fuel line
>Engine mounts were upside down
>Engine bay is just speghetti

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>>15033583
I was doing bodywork the other day and spotted a bubble in the paint behind the back wheel on the driver's side quarter panel, the usual rust spots. I went to check the other quarter on the passenger side to see if there was any damage there and it was spotless, came back and realized that the body lines didn't even match.

The bottom of the quarter is supposed to taper inwards but it was just perfectly round, I started to think that my quarter panel was literally swiss cheese underneath the quarter inch of bondo (which was soft as fuck) and it wasn't, just clean sheetmetal. I started working towards the wheel well and I realized that they actually fucking welded in a fender lip where it WOULD be and it stuck out about a half inch, that sheet metal that I found was just a patch panel the PO made up and zeus'd on there.

I think they just used the chrome trim that goes around the wheel well, mocked up some sheet metal with it and welded it in place and filled in that xbox heug gap with bondo.

>>15041565

Realize I shoulda posted this here before making a new thread.

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Good news everybody!

Another classic is entering my stable. I'm getting this '72 Jeep Commando for $2k here in a few months, just gotta put the money together, it's being held for me.

>>15041881
Nice, rig looks mondo fun, any plans to paint it?

>>15042451
Im on the fence about that. I kind of dig the picasso look it's got going on right now, but I've been wanting a desert tan offroad rig for a long time.

Either way it'll be a rattlecan job.

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>>15042582
What kind of drivetrain? I know a lot of those commandos came with 304 V8 TH400 and full-time 4WD like mine.
The aftermarket support is very different for these models because the axles were unique to the Quadratrac option.

>>15041646
There's a trip called furybro or something. He acts like he knows his shit on Chrysler motors. Just keep checking back, I'm sure he could help you.

I need a classic

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>>15042606
> 304 V8 TH400 and full-time 4WD

That's exactly it. It's a D30 front with locking hubs and D44 rear. It's also already got an SOA conversion, and even an aftermarket 24gal fuel tank. The tires (35's) have less than 50 miles on them and have never seen dirt.

It comes with a cage too, so I'll take the hardtop off in the summer and make a bikini top for it. I'm going for a rig like pic related.

>>15042634
What do you drive currently?

>>15042645
>D44 rear
If it is Quadratrac equipped it should have a BW 13-39 TC I believe. Most of them had AMC20 rears, with a different offset on the pumpkin.
Axles are one of the first thing to be swapped anyway. Nice jeep man.

>>15042710
I'll have to double check when I go back to it. My axle ID skills are weak. I don't plan on wheeling it hard enough to break axle shafts anyway.

All I really need to do to run it is bolt in some bucket seats and put fuel in it. It has some pretty ghetto wiring to fix too.

Then I just need to weld in some rifle racks, ammo cans, a bracket for a small toolbox and jerrycan, and a winch plate onto that custom bumper. Red Dawn fantasies, here I come

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>>15042582
Yeah I hear you, I'd be on the fence too, looks pretty killer right now and usually it just isn't worth it to dick around painting a bush beater, even if it is a unique classic. I've been on the fence about re-painting my Scottsdale for a year now, but I'd ruin the paint job within a couple of months rippin' around in the mountains. After a while the dents and scratches along the body become tied to great stories anyway, hard to paint over em.

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>>15035892
>>15035892
>Post guilty pleasure dadrock to cruise to

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBvCooOKXwA

random pic

>>15041025
So?
>>15041131
Looks to be in pretty nice shape.
Seems like a fair price if it's not rusty underneath
>>15041881
Oh fuck yeah there, bud

>>15030042
Used to drive an old rusty farm hand one of these boys
The clutch travel killed me and the transmission was as smooth as my jagged rusted fenders but man the I6 in that engine bay was an absolute peach to work on

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more bumpage.
One of these 64 Thunderbirds came in today for an oil change and differential oil. Shit was nice
>turd gen Camaro was in the captcha

>>15044622
My neighbor has one of those. Love the front and the hood.

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>>15041646
>>15042621

Read the thread and I would say overbore but do not stroke it. You already are dealing with a 3.58" stroke and for what you are spending to have the block clearanced and buying a stroker crank, you could have a 400 and make a ton more power. If you stick with the 360, get a good set of aluminum heads with a runner capacity of 170-200 cc or you will lose all kinds of power. On every LA I've touched, a good set of headers, full exhaust, a mid rise intake, and a solid new or rebuilt 600cfm 4bbl will jump you about 50 horses, more on a smogged block.

What are your power goals and the purpose of the car? Street with light strip use? Road warrior with a mild cam? Full potato?

>>15046479
A namefag that is helpful and not a cunt, pretty refreshing 2bh

>>15046494
All the namefags here are helpful and not cunts. /ccg/ threads are usually pretty chill

>>15046479

Mostly just a weekend warrior. Streets here are mint and fun to drive on, but even a de-smogged 360 lacks power in my heavy Cordoba. I already have headers, an intake and carb in my shopping cart and I'm looking into cheap ways to make a little more power than just that. Shooting for 450 or so HP. Anything more is just going to overpower the car's handling if I don't invest in serious upgrades.

I know a guy who could do the clearance work for almost nothing.

Where should I be sourcing a 351w from?

Looking to make maybe 400 rwhp, street build. Would prefer to find it with an AOD for the cruise comfort. I don't want to spend 6k on a crate engine. Pls send help.

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Turns out the office that did my taxes did them wrong and just never told me so I had to redo them, getting less than what they promised me too. So long dream of having my land yacht anytime soon.

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>I'm posting it again
1984

>>15046760
If the guy will do it cheap, go ahead and stroke it. Pick up a full hydraulic roller retrofit kit from Crane and get a more aggressive bumpstick. Pair that with double beehive springs and roller rockers and you will be at 450 in no time.

>>15047174
During the late 80s and early 90s, Ford was installing roller lifters at the factory on some 351W engines, so I suggest you get one of those.

>>15048493

What's the torque gain from stroking it compared to different options?

>>15048493
And I remember you from previous threads. A 360 build for 450hp, depending on where you want the power, will require a new flexplate and torque converter which is accessible when you pull the engine. Go for somewhere between a 2300-2800 stall, anymore than that and you will feel the lag in a very apparent manner. My suggestions:

Indy 360-1 63cc Heads with 180CC runners
Edelbrock Performer RPM 360 intake
Carter AVS (Edelbrock) 600cfm carb (vacuum secondaries are easier on a street car, I like mechanical secondaries)
Heddman longtube headers
KB .040 over pistons
Eagle rods
Crane hyd roller somewhere in the .500-.540 lift with a 108-110 lobe separation and a decently long duration.

I'd also recommend full main and head studs and ARP rod bolts for added durability, though at 450 hp the main studs are overkill.

>>15048597
Depends on if everything else is equal. All else remaining the same and just stroking it maybe 10-15% gain max. But that's like saying just a carburetor swap what'll it do? Very little even with a manifold swap you may pick up 20hp due to head flow limits on smog LAs. If you do it as a full build, you will get to your number, but build around your displacement and headflow numbers not off what a site says a cam can make. I CAN make 700hp NA if I run 12:1 compression with a huge cam, but its pointless as the rest of the engine would have to be built around that power goal and would reduce my reliability and street use and the block, heads, carb, etc would have to compliment it in a way that's streetable.

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>>15048611

Yeah I know about the flexplate and torque converter. I'm just looking into things and what would work for me before I pull the engine for a considerable amount of time (and money).
This is why I really only planned on buying the bolt ons like intake, carb and exhaust for now. Relatively easy and not too overwhelming for a moron like me.
Engines are rather complicated and I just started learning about building them.

The only major thing I ever did to an engine thus far is install an exhaust system on my 50cc bike and tune the carb for the exhaust.
I should have gotten into automotive mechanics instead of general mechanics.

Pic related is what I usually can work on. Doesn't look very easy, but I can understand it better than an engine.

>>15048712

Actually if anyone's interested, I'm uploading a video of that rolling mill. It's a classic too, just not a car, but I figure it'll be nice enough to show.

>>15048782
It's very welcome. What sort of mill do you work in?

As for your bolt ons, heads are easy enough to swap so if you have the cash, they will be a worthwhile upgrade just for the increased flow even if you don't do a rotating assembly and cam. Switching from 1.5 to 1.6 ratio rockers will give you a power bump as well as it increases lift by leverage as opposed to taller lobes and will be available on those Indy heads. Too bad you don't have an RB as the performance bits can be had for about 1/2-2/3 the price of an LA part from one specialty shop that only deals in 400s and 440s. Either way, aluminum heads are never a bad upgrade and can be reused as long as they aren't corroded terribly or warped (Indy heads are coated against the corrosion btw). What sort of a power band do you want and how far down a tach do you want it to rev to reliably?

>>15038155
fuck those are sexy

>>15047526
I could stare at that car all day.

>>15038283
Literally this

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>>15049162
stare at this niqqa

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Oh man I haven't been on in so long I forgot there are a lot of cool classic bros old and new around

My terk.

I just cleaned up the swamp cooler, works decently

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Also all I do is save classic car photos and related is this a cool image dump thread too I don't want to be a dick lol

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>>15049230
>that air conditioner
>those wheels
>DO NOT TOUCH THE TREE YIM
>that spare
J.E.E.P.?

Any Britfags here? Been looking at classic Brit cars. But I know how the classic car scene feels on modifying shit. But I'd do anything to make it not broken.

Essentially, looking at things that are still plentiful, but light and RWD. Minors, most Triumphs etc.

>>15049306
anything with an A series is good. also look into an MGB or a spridget.

morris minor is pretty cool, and you can never go wrong with a mini.

>>15049185
No need to tell me to look at my favorite car. What I would give to have one, let alone see one in person.

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>>15049318
they're pretty amazing irl

>>15049315
Sorta thing I've been looking at actually, but mini's cost a lot here. I found a good condition one that I can reach for about £4,750. There's a Minor nearby for 3500. So the price is a little odd.

Sprites are priced decently, but are quite far away. There's a Triumph Spitfire for around 3,300 though. And it's apparently in solid condition.

>>15049103

Steel mill. Producing Heavy and Jumbo H beams, 240 to 1100 mm with a weight of up to 1377kg/m, for skyscrapers or heavy industry.
Our steel mill supplied the beams for the new Freedom Tower in NY.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lkqo306regkj7ru/VIDEO0037.mp4?dl=0

I'll look into all the suggestions and I'll come back tomorrow to shit up the thread with more questions.

>>15049376
Not shitting it up at all. My grandfather was a foreman at a local steel mill until mesotheleoma got him in 1994. He was a helluva guy and I've got pictures somewhere of him at work so I had figured stell mill because of the progressive rollers pictured (if that's what they are, haven't seen the pics in 2 years gonna have to dig).

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Is it worth it to rebuild a GM 10 bolt 8.2 with posi and 3.73 gears?

Are there any other options that would cost around the same where I could keep the rear drums?

>>15049331
They're beautiful from every angle except behind the wheel.

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>>15049483
I know, it's so disappointing.

Like, it's not awful to look at, but you would think it would be so much better.

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>>15049495
The dashboard of the '59 Buick makes my dick diamonds.

Pic related.

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>>15049583
Especially at night.

>>15049589
Jesus fuck

>>15049603
If that were in the Cadillac instead, I would never have sold mine. I wanted to swap in a Buick dash so bad; it even has a "loading bar" speedometer...

It became disappointing to drive the Cadillac because the gauges are so vastly inferior to Buick and the Cadillac has almost no personality from the driver's seat.

>>15049583
Holy sweet fuck, I'm tearing up.

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Do you want to know what the absolute fucking worst part about this is? The Buick dash is the EXACT FUCKING SAME dimensions as the Cadillac one! If you swap dash supports, it will fit in perfectly.

GM really dropped the ball on this one; how nobody noticed that Buick had a God-tier dash and Cadillac had the worst, I do not know. Even Chevrolet had a better dash. Fucking poverty-tier Chevrolet!

>>15049240
Damn people remember me?

Would it be a bad idea to DD a land yacht?

>>15049806
You haven't been in /ccg/ forever dude, where you been?

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>>15049583
Nah brah, it's all about the dash that stares at you

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>>15050098
I do, no it's not a bad idea. I even commute to work now, with a 35 minute highway drive at 120-130 kmph 5 days a week

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Speaking of highway driving, my engine gets pretty hot now when I'm doing highway speeds. I think it's time for a new radiator, sadly.
I think mine's possibly got some cores clogged
But hell, it's the stock radiator from factory. 37 years is pretty good for its life

>>15050098
Naw I do it it's fun

Gas sucks though

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>>15050251
Dude. A lot.

Got married.

Got a house.

Worked at a dealer for a while then an independent shop.

Now I'm working at a shooting range though

>>15050368
Shit dude, you've been busy, congratulations on the marriage

>>15049644
>>15049763
So it wouldn't have been to much of a big deal to swap them then?

>>15050384
I'd have had to buy an intact '59 Oldsmobile, gut the Cadillac, and weld in the dash supports. It's beyond my current spatial limitations.

>>15050440
So I'm gonna guess that aftermarket '59 Olds dashboards aren't really a thing?

>>15050380
Yea it's really creepy what you can do OUT THERE. It's nice to be back lol

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This is where dreams die.
http://openstates.org/ca/bills/20152016/AB550/

>>15050440
>>15050446
I meant Buick; and, no. I can't find a single '59 Buick for sale for under $50k.

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>>15049162
I miss it so much

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I'm not huge on trucks, but fuck do I love '66-67 Dodge D100's. This is the only one I have ever seen for sale that wasn't a box truck variant.

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/5563128766.html

What kind of car is this?

>>15049806
I do. Your Ford made me want my Ford. Wasnt it a 360 bored and stroked to a 39p?

The dash in my Cordoba sucks massive ass, even my shitbox VW Fox has a better dash.

>temp/fuel gauge is as big as the speedometer and right next to it
>doesn't even have an RPM gauge

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>>15052660

I need to get the RPM gauge fixed.

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I want to buy it and take it on a 10000km road trip

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Guise can I be in the club now?

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also spotted this brute yesterday by my gf's office.

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Look what popped up on BAT today
http://bringatrailer.com/2016/05/14/4200-runner-1966-imperial-crown-coupe/

>>15053489
Yes

>>15053766
Muh dick

>>15053766
Thats not a bad buy at all. Hell, swap the radiator and water pump.

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>>15049449
Bump on this pl0x

>>15049449
>that filename
But it's a Ventura.

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>>15054385
Yeah I know, I never rename shit

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>>15054421

I almost bought a LeMans

I regret not buying it
I really do

>>15053766
I shared that car back in this post: >>15028624

>>15054607
Looks the same, but one is in CO and the other in AZ, CO has hubcaps and a landau top

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I'm interested in a car, but I'm not too sure on whether or not I should get rid of my Cadillac for it. It's a 1969 Lincoln Continental with 60k miles; currently not running, but the seller claims it needs only a new battery, some fresh gas, and the brakes redone to be road ready.

He wants close to $5k or it, but '69 is my least favorite of these Continentals. Plus, if I buy it, I'd have to forego my search for an Imperial.

Thoughts?

Pic is the car in question.

>>15055757
>the seller claims it needs only a new battery, some fresh gas
You know better than that

>>15054443

i have one that you could buy.

1972 LeMans Sport Convertible, 186,000 miles, all original, has been sitting for several years.

please i will take any amount of money for it i can't afford to fucking fix it up like i used to be able to god damn it i want to die

>>15055803
I know and that's why I bid only $3,500.00 on eBay. I'm considering going to look at the car, as I love the suicide doors.

>>15055757
Sounds like boomer motive just needing a battery and gas. I'd say hold off for the Imperial

>>15055821
How bad is it and where are you? If all you care about is getting it restored, I can promise you that I'd fix it if it's within my abilities.

>>15055833

I'm in Dayton, Ohio. Needs new brakes and brake lines, new fuel lines, interior needs some work, electronics need some work (previous boomer owner had a fucking ham radio nigger rigged up to it or some shit), needs to be de-rusted, but from the photos that I have posted here no one said the rust was terminal (yet) or too bad.

I'd say that it pretty much needs a ground up restoration, but to get it on the road you'd need brakes, new fuel/oil/coolant, battery (or maybe just a jump), and that should be it. i've driven the thing before when i first got it and it seemed to be okay, but i honestly can't say HOW okay it is; i haven't had the engine or transmission apart. the transmission definitely seemed to hate it's life but maybe it just needs new fluid too, actually.

i paid $3,000 for it. the owner is the son of the original owner. the guy drove it all through high school and college, then his dad took ownership of it again and used it until he died, then it sat outside under a car cover for like 4-5 years. it sits in a garage right now and has since i bought it like 3 years ago. the plan of course was to fix it but like 2 months after i bought it i lost my house and my job and while i'm doing way better right now, i can't yet swing the costs to fix it up.

i will dump some pictures of it so you can all laugh at me because i genuinely deserve it.

>>15055891
Ohio, huh? Well, if the pictures look OK, I could have it shipped to Wisconsin and have my father store it for a year until I move, THEN I could fix it up, but I'd probably only be able to offer you around $500.00.

It's not the type of car I normally work on, which intrigues me, and I'd love to restore it to keep some boomer from making a GTO clone out of it.

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>>15055891

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>>15055891
it has the full mechanical, electronic and vacuum diagram books that go over literally everything.

after this i'll post the horrible rust shit

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>>15055891

sadness.

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>>15055891

more sadness

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>>15055891

oh needs a new fuel tank too. shit is fucked, though you can't see it from this picture really

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>>15055891

i don't honestly know what the fuck this is all about

kill me

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>>15055891

R E G R E T

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>>15055891

automatic roof still functions perfectly, believe it or not.

this is not where the vehicle is stored, by the way. it is in a fully enclosed garage.

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>>15055891

JESUS CHRIST WHY

(brake line got crimped and brake jammed, had to be pushed)

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>>15055891

d e l e t

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>>15055891

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>>15055891

ignore my friend's forehead.

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>>15055891

okay this will be the last of the pictures unless otherwise requested.

i feel ashamed.

You have too nice of a car for me to try to Boomer lowball you; it should be worth about $3,500.00 in its current condition.

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>>15056091

i feel so bad about the condition of the car that i honestly don't know if you're joking with me or not and i've tried to follow your posts as much as possible for years.

is it genuinely not THAT bad? i can't afford to do much of anything with it right now and i don't want to sell it, but that really is the best thing to do right now. it needs to go to someone that will work on it.

>>15056140
It's not in bad shape at all; I see what looks like a little patch work needed on the frame rails, but it's in comparable shape to the Cadillac that I'm daily driving; your car is actually nicer inside.

If you don't need the money, let it sit a bit longer and fix it when you can. Just keep it on a nice, dry area. If you get rid of it now, when you have the means to restore it, you'll hate yourself.

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>>15056247

it is in this garage right now and has been since i bought it. not the best place, but it is out of the elements.

thank you for the advice, by the way. i would like to try and at least get it on the road. i should be able to spend the money for that.

>>15056288
That's a great storage facility.

First When you can, change all the fluids and get the car to run off of a 5-gallon fuel can. After that, replace the tank and fuel lines, then fix the brakes. Once you get the car running and driving again, it acts as its own motivation to keep you on track.

This is a video of me bypassing the tank on a car that I was working on; the engine was locked up like a rock and, after I got it running, I used the gas can in lieu of a tank to keep the car running while I tended to the brakes and diagnosed that horrible valve noise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBtemzclTts

>>15055757
Parts are fucking expensive, so if you get it, keep that in mind

>>15055757
Also, if the windows don't work, Don't buy it unless you want to rewire all of the windows and switches with new relays. New Switches are currently $70 US as well, so all new switches all around for windows would be $700

>>15055824
Did you see the 66 imperial above for 4200? Much better deal imho

>>15055971
>>15056035
Please get rid of those shitty wheels

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>>15056614

i have every intention of doing so... if i can ever afford to fix the vehicle up the way that i want to.

making it functional and the interior are priorities, then shit like wheels and paint.

>>15055891
If the pictures are recent that's not bad at all anon. Hell, the Fury was worse than that once I started doing panel work and had 0 paint on it. If it reall just need fuel lines, a tank, brake lines, etc (general 50 year old maintenance shit) I wouldn't sell it for under what Dracula said. It's above and beyond most vehicles in the rust belt from my experience and looks like it had been under coated at some point. I'd swap wheels, fix the lines, new fluids and drive the bitch. It's clean as shit on the inside and if the top isn't rotted and torn, that's easily sell for 3500-5000 as it sits if it turns over where I live in the STL metro.

>>15056611
Yeah, but it's a 2-door; the Imperial is one of the few cars where I prefer the 4-door.

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>>15056663

Awesome, man. Thank you.

The inside is pretty clean, but the radio is fucked and the driver's side door insert.. cover.. thing... is floppy. That wouldn't be hard to fix, but all of the leather is actually in pretty good condition. The top has some holes in it, but they aren't giant. The worst part is behind the rear seats where the top folds into.

>>15055891
fellow ohiofag

>>15056759
I agree on an Imperial, the 4 doors just seem right. It'll be a shame when it ends up getting chopped on "twennies" with a "phat" system in the back. Or worse, parted out then demo'd.

>>15056793
how much you wanting for this beast?

>>15056793
That thing looks great; if I had it here, it'd be up and driving in under a week.

If you are comfortable with working on the electrical, that's a great place to start and, apart from mice, not one that's going to degrade from sitting.

Do what you can, bit by bit, and look for used parts on Craigslist or in junk yards to try to keep prices down.

The undercoating has me a little concerned about frame rust; as I've seen some where it did more harm than good, but the body looks great.

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>>15056830

hello fellow ohiofag. i'm in Fairborn, the car is in New Carlisle.

a lot of people (even outside of this thread) have been telling me to shoot for $3,000 - $5,000 and i would be happy for literally anything between that.

realistically to be honest i would be alright taking a loss on it. i'm still considering working on it myself and enjoying it a little before selling, but if someone wanted to buy it i wouldn't hesitate to sell it.

>>15056845

Yeah I still can't make up my mind on what to do with it, really. But as I said above I'd sell it if someone made an offer.

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>>15056879

another picture

>>15056830

and honestly if you wanted to just take a look at it sometime i'd be down for that.

>>15056829
Though, if it were within 100 miles, it'd already be sitting in my driveway; "For Sale" sign on my Cadillac, just to serve as a drivable parts car for the 4-door I want.

Any car with factory suicide rear doors, any hardtop Rolls Royce, and almost anything that had the option of a 4-door variant by Chrysler from 1960-1980 looks better with 4-doors.

>>15056888
I dunno, I prefer the look of 2 doors on slab and fusie Plymouth Furys. A Monaco though? 4 door or bust. I loved my 4 door Monaco.

>>15056888
I dunno, I prefer the look of 2 doors on slab and fusie Plymouth Furys. A Monaco though? 4 door or bust. I loved my 4 door Monaco.

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>>15056888
>>15056830
>>15056829


oh yeah one of the hood hinges is fucked up or some shit and the hood doesn't sit perfectly. driver's side door sags when open so to close it you have to lift then close. windows don't align perfectly with the hood.

i honestly forgot about that shit. is that possible frame damage? i've been under the car a lot and it seems fine (aside from the rust) but i don't fucking know

>>15056915
Hood is adjustable due to manufacturing variances. The door sagging is weak metal or a bad hinge. You can most likely use spacers to help lift it up a tad. Idk what you are talking about the windows not lining up with the hood unless you mean the windshield.

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>>15056946

the fuck i said hood lol. sorry. i mean the windows in the doors. when they're all the way up there is a gap with the top.probably just the top being fucked up or something, although it automatically opens and closes by itself with seemingly no sign of being broken.

>>15056984
If the windows are manual (and some primitive power options) there is an adjustment to the lift mechanism inside the door to raise it up and down. The drivers window on the Plymouth would drop into the door and barely go full height. 2 bolts and a bit of tapping later and it fully seals and no more window drop.

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I was expecting a rustier version of pic related based on the way you were describing it.

As it is, if you gave it a good buff, polish, vacuuming, and stuck it up on eBay, you could get about $7,000.00 for it.

>>15056906
I meant the "Chrysler" lineup in particular; not Dodge or Plymouth.

>>15049589
Those gauges are so complex make a Nissan 300ZX digital display look simple.

>>15057073
Ah I see. The only Chryslers I can accept as a 2 door is the Newport and SOME years of the New Yorker though I prefer a 4dr New Yorker. I should have been a bit less specific before.

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>>15057281
The Cordoba is also pretty good as a 2-door, but half of them look weird.

Though, the weirdest are the two-door Lincoln Town Cars and Continentals.

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>>15057387
The Town cars I can understand looking weird in 2 door, but I think the Continental looks fine in 2 door, although I prefer the suicide doors

>>15057524
It's not that the Continentals don't look good; it's more that I'm used to the look of the sedans, so the coupes are odd because I'm not used to them.

The Town Car coupes, however, are senseless since the Mark series was made concurrently.

This one
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/cto/5574190146.html

>>15057978
If only it were a '65...

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So far I've found three incredible fucking botched sheetmetal work from the PO's that was hidden under bondo.

>WAKE ME UP

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page 9 bumpin

Thread is 90% dead. Bumping for one last question.

How stupid am I for considering picking up a classic car for a daily. $15k. Falcons, tempests, El caminos, novas, etc.

Would a decent restomod serve as a competent DD? I like the idea of my daily not depreciating, actually driving an old car, and cheap and easy maintenance.

My alt is a e46 330.

>>15046760
beefed up bottom end, forged pistons and nitrous

>>15060963
It'll depends on how handy you are with cars. If you can deal with the problems that occasionally popup and realize that you have to do more maintenance than just oil changes, go for it.
If however you don't know how or never worked on cars I wouldn't recommend it, unless your father or a friend can help you out when you run into trouble.

>>15061022
I'm no stranger to maintenance. I've dealt with dailying a mk2 gti for a long time. Any particular cars you'd recommend looking for?

>>15061059
1970s brand of choice; they're cheaper, often in better shape, have a few more modern features, and you're far less likely to run into the need for specialty parts costs.

Otherwise, if you want specific vehicle recommendations, tell me your budget, the largest metro city, brand of choice, and how you intend to use the car.

I'll try to find you 5 or 6 examples of great starter vehicles.

>>15061438
>1970s
Fuck that, all the best cars were ruined in the 70s.

>>15061513
The early '70s were still good; plus, he wants a car to learn with. If you tell someone to go out and buy a $7,000.00 muscle car and it's constantly breaking, it's going to deplete their budget a lot quicker. If he doesn't like the '70s car, he can sell it, lose no money, and be wiser for trying.

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>>15058337
>do sparkplugs
>spot something in the corner of my vision
>rust under the master cylinder
>take pictures
>oh god

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>>15049449
>>15054421
Well hot fucking damn! Someone else has a fucking Ventura. Never thought I'd see the day.

>Is it worth it

Yeah I'd say so. As for other options that would cost around the same where you could keep the drums, that I am unsure of.

Also, a buddy of mine and I did some painting to my Ventura this week. Took some videos during it and will upload later. But I will post some pics. Before anyone asks, yes we did use plasti dip only because he had a bunch laying around and my car's paint is fucking garbage to begin with.

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Before

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After

I'm usually not a fan of flat colors but it really hides a lot of the imperfections with the paint underneath.

>>15061617
He's got 15k, that's enough for a good example of most starter classics.

He doesn't want some shitty boat with a 455.

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Man....this thread makes me miss my Buick even more than normal.

>>15062308
Flat is good when done right. You did it right

>>15062526
I'll admit that I missed the budget and assumed that it was a shoestring like nearly all of /o/.

That definitely gives him a lot of options, but I'd still need to know where he lives to be able to suggest a good car.

After all, $5k is a lot of money to 99% of the people here.

>>15062571
>>15062567
Fuck that's nice, what year? Also thanks, I think it came out pretty good. we gotta just do some touch ups on the roof and hood. But Christ almighty did it hide a fuckton of imperfections from the other paint. Hopefully with this paint it will be slightly easier to sell.

Just uploaded the video of the painting "process" if anyone is interested. Sorry for chewing gum at the start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l4GGEEmtIw&feature=youtu.be

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>>15038155

i love my lebaron to death, such a good ride

>>15063087
Please post more pics

Anyone have any recommendations for a set of heads for a 71 mopar 360LA? I have a low rise edlebrock intake and an edlebrock 4bbl.

I wanna stick to a low to mid range rpm horsepower peak. I'm gonna be getting a camshaft that reflects this when I get the heads, if anyone has a suggestion for a camshaft too that would be good.
I'm thinking of getting the baja power cam that was described as a stump puller, it's rpm range was around 1500 to 4750ish. But it maxes out at 5200 rpm with I thought might be too low.

>>15063113
Look above and get Indy 360-1 heads. Having never hear of that cam, id look at a Crane hyd flat tappet if you have a tight budget, but a hyd roller retrofit is a much better choice overall. 5250 for an LA is a tad low for a pre smog engine and should redline closer to 6000-6200. If you are wanting low down grunt you are in the right mindset with your cam, but I trust Crane and have for years. If you give me some more specs, I can help suggest a cam a bit more accurately for you.

Do you have or plan to have
Headers and what type
Overbore
Which mid rise intake
What carburetor
What rear end gear and open or SG.

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>>15063105
dont have any other atm lol but I took this for you, its midnight now so its dark as fuck

>>15063055
that challenger inside though. what engine?

also
>IT'S HABBEDING

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>>15063208
Oh fuck I just realized you aren't in the States. That just makes it even cooler that you are rocking that thing in Europe.

>>15063211
6.4 Hemi, his dad got the scat pack. Also another cool car in this video that you can't really see, is the car under the cover in front of the Ventura when it was being painted. It's a very built Dodge Magnum

>>15063164
Oh hey Furybro, it's me, Furyfag.
I got the edelbrock performer 2176K and the edelbrock performer 1406K 600cfm 4bbl carb.
So it's not a super beefy carb but it's basically perfect for my engine size. I have stock exhaust manifolds (I was told by the C Body forum that they were pretty solid and likely better then a lot of the aftermarket manifolds, I guess because my car is a Sport Fury?)

I've got the unfortunate 8 1/4 rear end, which I'd like to change out someday, and my car is still running stock bore. It's basically all stock aside from carb and intake and the 2.25 inch dual exhuast.

>>15063276
yeah dude its really rare, I live in Norway and its actually the only one I've ever seen here. gets a lot of attention

>>15063164
Would something like this be worth a damn?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-Chrysler-SB-318-340-360-170cc-65ccCast-Bare-Aluminum-Cylinder-Head-/181903257189

>>15063276
I love the dodge magnum, they can make a hell of a sleeper. I just don't trust the electrics and like the tranny senpai.

>>15063300
Man I'm sure it gets plenty of attention. Were they imported there when made or did someone privately ship it over?

>>15063375
I wish I knew more about his and magnums in general. All I know is that his is loud as all hell, doesn't like to start, hasn't started in years, and pulls ~600hp

>>15063288
The C Body forums are close to right, but only if you are sticking with shorty headers. Long tube or midis will make a difference down low especially coming from even HP manifolds.

As for a cam, look at the Crane Z-276-2 for a flat tappet or HR-222/339-2S-12 IG for a hydro roller. Both will have affair idle and make power up to about 5200 and 6000 RPM respectively.. These days, I always go hud roller even with the cost as it makes for a much better daily and means you do not need a zinc additive. Comp Cams also has a couple good offerings as well (20-212-2 flat apps and 20-810-9 hid roller) and cost about the same. Either way you go, get beehive springs for the heads as they will easily handle the added lift and help resist valve float (common when going above .500 lift on a SBM or BBM with stock valve springs)

For heads, the Indy 360-1s are a good buy or the Mopar performance P5153849s as they come with updated valve springs that can hand up to .550 lift comfortably as cast. The intake runners are about 171cc on the MP heads meaning good street performance and throttle response off idle. Id look at swapping the intake with an Edelbrock 7176 as it is one of the best street intakes made for the LA series, but the carb is more than sufficient for your application.

And don't bash that 8.25 too much, they can handle up to around 450 horses before getting into too much trouble, but the 8.75 is a much beefier rear end and I prefer the drop out style rears as opposed to the spicer style for a street car because rear end swaps are simple and fast. Do you have an A904 behind that 360 or the A727? If it is the latter, you are good to about 550 hp before you need to think about beefing it much, but know the rear end will go, then the shift sprag, then your driveshaft most likely. If you need other options or want some forward looking upgrades, lemme know.

>>15063370
No. They also use the magnum intake rots and that is inferior to the 63 cc loaded MP heads in every way. Don't buy cheap head castings or you will regret it when it is time to bolt them on. And make sure you do a full wipe down and clean of ALL new parts before installation as tree will be some metallic dust from machining present that you do not want in your engine.

>>15063457
Thanks Furybro, by the way what's a Hud roller?

And will the intake I've got really hold my car back that much?

I'm probably gonna go with the mopar performance heads, I can't really figure out what's going on with the indy 360-1s website order form pdf. Is there a big difference in price?

>>15063433
Also I'm nearly 95% sure I've got the A727 but I haven't actually confirmed it. I'll be changing the tranny fluid soon and then I'll know for sure based on the gasket shape.

>>15063539
The indus are about 150 more expensive but have a larger machined runner at 180cc and I believe beehive valve springs as well. a Hud roller is a Hydraulic roller camshaft that was a typo. And your intake will reduce the top end of your power band because it will be your flow restriction. As a rule, your intake manifold should be ported to head and meet or exceed its flow rate so that your heads, not the intake, restrict the power. It makes for better mid and top end power as well and I wish I could find the flow charts I had.. looking now.

>>15063566
Thanks, wish I'd known that before I bought it. How much money is the intake you recommended.

Hah I already got pretty much my entire next tax return spent.

>>15063401
No idea really, I bought it a year ago at an auction and havent looked it up, but its most likely been imported after the 2000s

>>15063590
Its right at 312.20 from nearly everyone at the moment. Very worthwhile intake and also has a mini air gap for better atomization and less heat transfer. All that adds up to better drivability and more power.

>>15063592
Very cool. How much did you end up paying for it out there? I always assume american classics are always pricey outside the States.

>>15030339

This is beyond shitbox, this is stupid. Fix it you fucking slob.

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>>15028329

>>15028329
Does anyone have experience re-wiring their classic? I don't have much experience with wiring but it's a 65 f100 so I didn't think it would be that hard. How long would a job like this take? I will probably have a friend to help.

>>15064368
On that truck, it'd take an afternoon; less if you buy a pre-made harness.

It's a tedious job under the dash, running the wires for the tail lights, fuel sender, and a few other components, but it's not bad.

>>15064435
Doesn't seem too bad but I have heard the dash will be the hardest part. Finding the time to do it will be tough

>>15064435
Nice part f the 65 though is you don't have anything blocking the lower dash. Bad part is you can Hotwire it without ripping anything out

Anyone in the Fayetteville, NC area? I found another car that I'm interested in if they'd come down to around $4,500.00

http://fayetteville.craigslist.org/cto/5572727611.html

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>>15064469
>http://fayetteville.craigslist.org/cto/5572727611.html
>413 wedge
noice

>>15064493
I will seriously pay someone $50.00 to go look at this car for me.

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Me and my coworker both have one weekend left to get our respective cars done in time for our deadlines, both ofare busy next weekend. He's got a shit ton of wiring, air lines, exhaust and other little things to get done on his 1969 Continental so he can take it to Carlisle. And I have to finish the repaint on my 1973 military Land Rover series III to have it ready for the British car show in Clinton, NJ.

And there are new wheels for the Continental before anyone complains.

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And the Land Rover

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>>15028472
first for van

>>15065568
>tuning your carb and your timing without even leaving the driver's seat
Convenience!

>>15065568
>driving
>get carbon monoxide poisoning from header leak
>start to fall asleep
>spill my mountain dew all over distributor
>ignition coil blows up
>blows fuel line off carb
>van engulfed in flame

vans not even once

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>>15065968
>Driving without the doghouse on
Asking for trouble m8

>>15065568
>>15065974
Since he's not in the drivers seat, I'm going to guess he was working on her and decided to have a photo shoot. If he is driving sans doghouse though....

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>>15038039
Picked up a super solid fully loaded 89 Town car the other day. That brings us up to 23 cars currently at my house and the 10th or so panther I've owned. For fucks sake.

>>15066206
Literally comfy, the house

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>>15066227
It is, but it's also a full time job just taking care of the place. Sometimes I really wish I was a NEET living in some shit hole apartment who's biggest concern was what to fap to tonight.

>>15066293
Those are very low aspirations, and it looks like you're doing pretty well.

>>15056023
That black bumpy shit looks like factory sound proofing. It is a pain to get off.

>>15056083
The rust doesn't look too bad and can easily be sand blasted off or dipped in a bath. Then powder coat or enamel paint for protection. The only rust that concerns me would be that picture new the shocks. The rust on the drive train will go away if you upgrade those parts.

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>>15065968
>>15065974
>>15066085
these are photos from when i first bought it, i'm not nearly stupid to buy a 39 year old van with just a tad (used sarcastically) of rust and not drive with the dog house on. when it needs moved the doghouse goes back on, when it needs work it comes off. pic related, the terrible ass cancer rust she has at the moment

>>15067655
Yikes, what's the plan, weld in new sheetmetal or just hope for the best?

>>15062787
I feel ya, no harm intended.