Neutral, or clutch + first gear?

>>15013366

Neutral, always. Unless I'm having a shit day.

>>15013366
Neutral unless you have reason to expect it to change in less than 20 secs.

This thread is the reason why no one should by used cars from noob drivers

>>15013408

why?

Neutral until about 5-10 seconds before I know the light will change

>>15013425
Burnt clutches in 50k miles.

I learned clutch+First gear in driving school, but recently started using neutral cause clutch bearing thing

>>15013461
Holding it in 1st won't burn the clutch, it'll fuck the throwout bearing. Good job on proving you're just as retarded as the idiots you're insulting

natural of course

>>15013366
Neutral

Once it's green then clutch and first gear and go

>>15013475
And you've just proven you've never worked on a clutch.

Not all pressure plate leave open enough space to where the fly wheel ISN'T touching the clutch plate.

If it just turned red, neutral and release clutch

If its about to turn green, press clutch and put it in 1st

Not hard

>>15013461
Derp
>>15013475
I was just going to say this lmao

>if I hold the clutch in I'll fuck up the throwout bearing
>if i put it in neutral I'll put unnecessary stress on the clutch
>if I have the start/stop on I'll put unnecessary stress on the starter motor

Fuck /o/.

>>15013493
This.

>>15013493
/o/'s philosophy is to not drive your car because you will wear it out and have to replace items

just dont drive, and your car will outlast you

>>15013493
>anon stop driving your car
>you'll put miles on it REEEEEEE

>>15013504
>>15013506
B-but letting your car sit fucks it up as well, WHAT DO I DO?

>>15013509
dismantle it

>>15013509
ride the bus

>>15013511
Bye bye resale value.

>>15013521
remantle it

>>15013504
>don't drive your car
>keep it parked all the time
>never sell it to kids that walk by

>you are now the boomer

Just leave it in D with one foot on the throttle and one on the brake.

>dismantle it
>remantle it
>ride the bus
>don't even buy the car

not that difficult

>>15013542
make sure youre pressing very hard on both the throttle and brake pedals while doing this

>leave it in neutral until the cars to the left/right stop
>put it in first

>>15013366
>clutch + first gear?
Why is the clutch part necessary? Can't you just leave it in first and press gas when it's time to move?

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>>15013580

>>15013484
Name one.

>>15013580
This actually made me laugh. Good bait, anon.

Neutral. As soon as the pedestrian light turns red, cluth in and 1st gear in.

As a learner I would leave it in first because I was worried I'd take off too slow, but after a few months I began leaving it in neutral when I wasn't moving.
Here one that will separate the faggots from the faggots
>4th gear, ~65km/h
>red light ahead
Do you change down a gear or go straight to natural and roll to a stop?

>>15013493
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

>better take the bus today in case I run into any red lights

>>15013580
Wonderful.

>>15013511
So I'd own a kit car?

>>15013994
Downshift for engine braking.

>>15013366
what if
neutral + clutch

>>15014158
ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>>15014158
>not clutch + reverse

I just push the brake pedal because they invented something that handles all the gear shifting automatically and I am not a child

>>15014232
>they invented something that handles all the gear shifting
You have to use a artificial brain because you don't have one?

>>15014246

Oh I get it, you're one of those people who write everything out longhand because you think using a printer is less fun and gives you less control over the document?

>>15014267
If I found writing by hand as much fun as a manual, then I would

>>15014230
>not scaring the people behind you with backup lights
It's pretty fun.

>>15014158
>stall

>>15014308
clutch in, reverse, and handbrake only

maximum keks

>>15014310

>stalling by having the clutch in on neutral

what the fuck man

>>15013398
>20 seconds

You would leave your clutch in for up to 20 seconds?

Depends on the light
clutch + 1st if it's a really quick changing light or it's an intersection I'm familiar with and I know I'm about to get a green
neutral for anything else

>>15014308
>>15014349
lmao that's some next level shit

>>15013530
kek

>>15013366
First+brake+accelerator
Smoke out everyone behind me

>>15013366
Neutral because this fucking aftermarket clutch hurts my foot if I clutch in for longer than 10 seconds.

>>15013366
D

On a motorcycle they tell you to always keep it in 1st at a light so you can quickly get away if something comes from behind. Do you not do this in a car? Why would it be okay for a bike?

>>15014677
well on a bike the guy skidding to a stop behind you is more likely to kill you than in a car. also the way the clutches operate are different. motorcycles often have wet clutch. not sure if there's any wear when you hold in their clutch for longer periods on bikes

>>15014696
Interesting. Thanks!

>>15014412
You have to estimate time, sometimes it takes for ever once the red in the other directions and then turn green in your direction.

Better to be ready to go then have to panic and stall.

>>15013595
My F150, My S10 all had touchy clutches

Besids there isn't anything pushing the clutch plate back off the fly wheel when the pressue plate is released so youll still have it spinning at a different speed from the flywheel

Which causes what? Glazing, glazing causes slippage and early clutch death.

In my experience most throw out bearings last much longer than clutch plates themselves although its still a good idea to replace them while you're in there.

>>15013595

PT loser.

>>15014696
the clutch mechanism is different on a bike, no diaphragm spring or bearing to worry about. That said it can also be a bitch to hold that lever for awhile, so I put it in neutral and let out the clutch when there's a car stopped behind me

>>15014743
I never preselect my gear. Is this a thread for learners? Because it's a bad habit to develop.

At any rate, who says you have to blast off the line the instant the light turns green?

>>15014398
carb problems it sounds like

>>15013994
Heel-toe 4-3-2-1 in quick succession.

Alternatively, brake until idle rpm and shift into neutral

>>15013580
Nice

>>15014992
Spotted the faggot.

>>15013994
Neutral and roll to stop, leave it in neutral until the lights about to turn green

>>15013994

Isn't going straight into neutral and roll stopping bad?

It depends on the vehicle.

My daily drive has a fuel cut mod so you have to keep a foot on the clutch or accelerator to maintain idle. If I'm expecting long idle times I switch it out.

>>15015187
uh no

>>15013536
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain

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>>15014267
Calligraphy is still a thing you know

>>15015187
Yes, you will fail your license test of you do that. For a good reason too.

>>15013994
Stay in gear till rpms reach 1100-1500ish then decide if I want to downshift

Do you heel-toe when you exit a highway?

>>15015861
Yes, unless there's a lot of traffic. It's good practice.

>car: Neutral
>bike: In gear + clutch

>>15014677
I feel like it would take me the time of the light to get the damn thing into neutral. when the bike isnt running its easy to find but once its running it gets sucked into 2nd from first.

>>15013366
>float gears down to 1st
>pull handbrake and burn rubber because fwd
>release handbrake when light turns green and launch into a hektic burnout

>>15013366
clutch + first gear + 4000 rpm until green light

First gear and clutch in if I'm first im line, otherwise neutral.

it's threads like these that whittle out the bus riders.

>>15013366
Donuts in the intersection until the light turns green.

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>bike
If I feel it's going to go green soon, clutch and first gear.
If I know I just missed the green and the intersection will do a full cycle before it's my turn, neutral and play my fuel tank as a bongo.

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>>15013994

>Tfw I would always just slam down on the clutch and brake.
>Get to the stop, put it in first or second if I was still rolling or not.
>Take off the clutch and continue on
>Wonder why my fucking clutch is burnt up after I was driving so smoothly for those 10k miles

>>15014783
>>15014789
So trash vehicles?

>>15013398
>>15013458
This. I honestly don't know why there's so much debate about this issue on /o/ considering the wear a clutch suffers from being stood on is minimal compared to the wear it and the rest of your drive train suffers from a high rpm dump, which /o/ claims to do all the time.

>>15017477
this
I feel like an F1 driver when I'm doing this in my shitbox

>>15013398
>20 seconds
U wot

5 seconds max

>>15014783
ah o.k., I asked as I have had a few manuel cars with over 200,000m and the original clutch was holding fine. One was xj that was used for towing about once a month.

Now I will put into neutral if i'm not first at the light, but previously had always kept it in first.

>>15013994
I always downshift to 3rd for engine braking and shift into neutral once I go below ~1k

>>15017926
>car jumps and then goes into driving normally
>the guy behind always thinks I'm going to stall so he hangs back
I hate it when people in BMWs or Mercedes are right up your ass when you've came to a stop.

Neutral + break. I shift in first when the crossing street/road turns red.

Neither, I'm not a city dwelling cuck.

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>>15014267
Writing by hand is a pain in the ass. Driving manual is easy.
Writing by hand is much slower than a printer. A car with a manual is slightly faster than its auto counterpart.
Writing by hand is boring as shit. Driving manual is fun.

Nice analogy though. Really spot on.

>>15013366
Brake + Gas

>>15015187
It's not terrible, but yeah. It puts extra wear on your brakes since you aren't engine braking, and it's kinda dangerous to be coasting in traffic in neutral.

>>15019021
"I'd rather put wear on my engine, clutch, trans, instead of my brakes."

I love the fuel tank rumba.

>>15013366
I put it in first and floor clutch and accelerator pedal, yellow is signal for releasing the clutch

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>>15013366
I put my automatic in neutral at red lights.

>>15017926
Ready for pole position

>>15019510
>torque converter stops converting
>start rolling backwards
>panic.jpg

>>15013994
I used to dwonshift but it's pointless. I just take my foot off gas and slows down to about 30km/h (depends on the car) and then clutch- neutral lub 2nd gear if the situation is changing. Do not downshift if it's not necessary, as I used to because you use more fuel (foot off the gas- gas is cutted off, clutch on- gas flows).

Also you are more focused on your driving line and speed when you don't downshift too often.

>>15019704
I downshift into 3rd when approaching a red light. That's it.
It'll slow me down right down to like under 20mph. Then I just shift into neutral, dab my brakes to stop the car and hold it.

I don't rev the engine like crazy either. Downshifting into 3rd my revs will go up to like 3000-3500. It's all the engine braking I need

>>15019762
Yeah, that's a good way too. Shifting from 4th to 3rd is like a blink of an eye so I approve it :D

It's really hard to find neutral on my new bike so I just hold the clutch in unless I'm at the light for a long time or put it in neutral before I come to a stop.

>>15019021
Brakes take 10 minutes to service per side, less if you've got air tools. You would really rather wear out your clutch than your brakes?

>>15015220
why would you do that?

>>15013366
Everyone on this board is fucking retarded

>>15017543
It burned up your clutch even though you had it completely depressed/disengages?

D

Sometimes when I'm feeling saucy, L or 2

>2016
>using a manual
Manual's are obsolete bros. Automatics are better in every conceivable way.

>>15020760
Stale b8 m8