>tfw

No.

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nightmare mode

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Hill starts aren't that difficult, seriously. Give it a bit more gas than usual and keep the clutch at bite point until the car is moving and then release the clutch. If manual starts aren't in your muscle memory, use the handbrake and fucking grow up

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>>14969455

>>14969468
>keep the clutch at bite point until the car is moving
for a second I thought you're one of those stupid fucks who hold their car at a hill using the clutch at bite, then you mentioned the handbrake.

ITT: 15 year olds who dont drive

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>>14969439
>>14969455
>>14969471
>>14969478
Fixed for all you FAGGOTS who cant into new technology

>>14969468
I thought OP is implying leaving it in 1st gear, so that it holds itself. Which makes no sense.

skid it uleh

>>14969502
>autotragic with 3 pedals

Yeah, amazing "new technology" you invented there

>>14969530
one is a footrest you dolt

>>14969530
>implying foot operated e-breaks dont exist

>>14969455

Just yank your Ebrake but hold the button while balancing the bitepoint with alittle bit of gas, as you put the brake down, give it more gas while gently letting go of the clutch.

>>14969567

*Don't balance your bitepoint with gas while waiting for the light, do it as you're about to put your ebrake down.

Just let off the brake and push the throttle while lifting the clutch pedal! It's not rocket faggotry.

e-brake method is the master method, even if you know your biting point the e-brake is just so much easier plus your normie friends will think your doing some cool japanese technique

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>handbrake
>first gear
>press clutch in
>rev above 6k
>disengage handbrake
>immediately dump clutch
>dorifto around the corner
NIGHT OF FIRE

>>14969439
Use the handbrake you twat

>>14969439
try doing that with a single clutch robotic gearbox

>>14969597
>plus your normie friends will think your doing some cool japanese technique
This. Working the clutch, shifter, pedal and e-brake all in the same slick movement will impress the shit out of anyone who doesn't drive manuel

>>14969625
Lol You're joking right

>>14969597
>e-brake method is the master method
>your normie friends will think your doing some cool japanese technique

wat.
I've never ever seen someone doing it without the handbrake. I thought this IS the normie way to do it

>>14969628
I'm literally not
Have you ever had a casual in your car? They're super easy to impress, and since they don't know anything they figure that if you're moving more things, it's a very high-tier maneuver. I've known people who go 'wow' when I mention that I replaced my headlight switch or flushed my coolant

I should move to Burgerland. Where basic car operation impresses people

>>14969601
This is how I ride everywhere.

>>14969455

>not dumping the clutch and slamming the gas to skid on that cunt tailing you

>>14969677
>instantly lose traction
>before you can move one inch forwards you're skidding with screeching wheels and with your ass right onto the expensive bumper behind you

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>>14969439
>>14969455
It may get easier but it will never not be stressful as hell

>>14969601
>>14969601
This.
Or if car is FWD.
>handbrake
>rev to 6k
>dump clutch
>massive burnout
>drop handbrake
>launch slowly

>>14969640
Or continue living in your own shitty country where they think basic operation is some kind of special talent.

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>tfw size 15EE feet and can't heel-toe in any vehicles pedal box that's yet been invented

>>14969723
>average sized feet, still can't heel toe because the pedals are so close together

>>14969439
as a britbong who's been driving "stick" (or its proper name, "manual") since I passed my test, I had to read a lot of the thread before I realised what the issue was here

If there are no cars behind you, just keep your foot on the brake till you want to set off. As long as you're good at manual you'll set off without rolling back. If there are cars behind you and you're feeling conscientious, put the handbrake on. Not hard with a bit of practice.

>>14969636
come to england and try to impress our birds with your hill starts, they'll send you packing lad

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WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW /o/???????????????

>>14969755
Why the fuck would I want a disgusting slag from some cuck nation in the first place

>>14969439
Merci but that's not proper twingo gearshift pattern and this thread is full of idiots who have trouble with basic driving.

>>14969770
I don't have trouble I just have serious anxiety issues.

>>14969775
Go to psychiatrist then

>>14969759
this

enjoy the united kingdom of syria lol

What's wrong boys? Can't into basic clutch control?

>>14969755
bloody fookin el mate, ima do a hill start and get all the birds.

>>14969677
>this is the only way i can hillstart
>rev to 5000
>slip clutch until at 60km/hr then into 2nd

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I got used to it, but my new car has hill hold. Shit's fucking great

what is e-brake? I don't think I have it on my car because it's an automatic

>>14969439
>engage handbrake
>hold clutch in
>put in gear
>let clutch out until it starst pulling
>release handbrake

>>14969455
>Check for dashcam in car behind

If not, should you roll back into them, just claim they ran into the back of you.

Captcha being rather British - Pick all with tea.

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>>14969625
>manuel

>>14969939
Uh? Don't know how traffic laws are, but you're supposed to keep some distance from the car in front of you.
If you, for any reason, hit the car behind you in a hill it's his fault.

>>14969625
You don't impress anyone using the e-brake on a hill start, kek.

>>14969960
>traffic laws are
*where you live

>>14969960
>You don't impress anyone using the e-brake on a hill start, kek.
did that when i drove up to San Francisco
my sister and her friends asked me how i didnt roll back.
ur argument is invalid.

>>14969960
>If you, for any reason, hit the car behind you in a hill it's his fault.

That was my point. It's their fault for trying to park in your boot.
If they have a dashcam, they can prove you've rolled back, and some of the blame may be shoved your way.

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>>14969439
>driving school
>"ok kid, today we're gonna practice hill start, let me demonstrate first"
>pulls handbrake, cable snaps
>"ok kid, today we're gonna practice hill start the manly way"
>clutch in the car is barely working
>mfw

Well, at least I passed the exam on the first try

>>14969971
Before I had my car, I used to drive my mom's estate.
it had a magnificent 1.4l petrol engine with a mindblowing 110Nm of torque.
I never rolled back more than 2cm even on steep hills and never used the handbrake.

>>14969975
Well yeah, but unless you let your car roll back a meter they are to be blamed, even if they manage to prove you let your car roll back.

>>14969439
Was only hard in driving school and the first few times I had to do it

Nowadays I could do it half asleep

>>14969992
How shit is the common casual american driver if a basic operation like that impresses them? Here you wont get a license unless you can do it.

>>14970017
They don't even learn manual as a standard.
In most states, from what I've read, they're not even forced to parallel park in their driving exam.
It's just a simple 15 minute cruise.

>>14970033
how many new cars are even manual as standard? most are coming with tiptronic ie auto.

>>14970045
Most of them. At least in Europe.
You always get manual as standard except in some top engine trims and even then you can choose manual in most cases.

And anyways, it's always a nice thing to learn.

>>14969756
>Get a diesel 1.9l or bigger.
>Hill starts from 3rd are now a possobility.

>>14970033
More like 10 minutes around the block. I had to reverse out of a set of cones without hitting any before setting off for a literal cruise around the DMV and back. Practiced parallel parking for a couple weeks before it and didn't get to use it.

>>14970070
Well, here you have to
>parallel park with no additional tries
>3 point turn
>go around a curb in reverse maintaining speed and distance
>successfully do hill starts without recurring to the handbrake
>know how to use a multi-lane roundabout
>3 small errors (includes letting your car stall) and you're done

And everything is done on the street. And examiners always choose busy as fuck streets.

>>14969439

Tfw reverse uphill start on a bike

>>14970091
Yeah, I don't exactly approve of many states' DMV practices, but, at the same time, it made my life easier. Cheap as balls too. $20 or so.

Most areas in the US aren't comparable to European roads though. Especially Arizona where I got my license. Mostly grid system roads, 12 lane freeways and plentiful, easy parking. A left on green is about the most difficult situation you'll encounter outside of city centers.

>>14970436
that must be depressing

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>>14970445
The desert roads are great though. 20-40 minute drive from most areas in the Phoenix metropolitan area. Rest of the state is filled with mountains and wide open, empty roads. About a 2 hour drive up north to forested areas that are even better, especially for unpaved backroads if you've got the car for it.

I preferred it to California. It's a fucking pain in the ass to drive to any good roads in the OC. Crawl through traffic and garbage freeways just to get to the one fucking 5 mile stretch of mountain road within 3 hours.

>/o/ is full of children who can't drive

Why do I still come here?

Only women and newbs have issue with this
Since there are no women on the internet that just makes /o/ full of newbs

>>14970033
Pretty much its really sad desu

Holy shit guys are you retarded? You even bothered to make pictures this time! You rev up first then disengage the clutch. No rolling back. It's heel and toeing at a standstill.

Jesus Christ every day there is a thread started by some faggot who, instead of just going out and driving the car to learn a clutch, decides to ask a million questions here in a feeble attempt to be doted upon by other weak footed kids just like him.

>that first time i had to do a hill start on an old shitbox with dreams instead of rear brakes, wooden tires and small pone instead of horses under the hood
ended up lightly tapping the whore that was sucking my bumper when trying to find the bite point, so i said fuck it and dumped the clutch at full revs. smoke and shit but the car eventually pulled itself

to this day i'm still amazed the tires were so bad i could break traction with 55 fucking HP and it took like 5 seconds of smoke before the car got some momentum

>>14969597
E-brake method is retarded, just balance your foot on both the gas and brake pedal.

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>tfw doing a hill start in a car with hill assist interfering

>>14969503
Nah bro my Camry makes 500 lb/ft at 700rpm

>>14970456
It's a bit like that here in Adelaide, 20 minutes and your in the hills with great roads, shame my car can't handle it with it's 69kw of power

>>14970557
How does it feel to have small feet?

>>14969439
you just have to be quick

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>there are fags on this board that unironically have to use the handbrake to start on a hill
Never had to do it once in me loife and never will.
I swear, the more /o/ posts the more i actually believe most of them are busriders.

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>>14971026
>I only drive my mom's autotragic modern car and I have no interest in classics
casual's who think they are not casual's

>>14971026
Are you American? It's not a "have to" thing it's more of a some moron stopped .001" away from my bumper and now that my brake lights are no longer showing they've decided to mat it like they're a 3 time felon evading arrest thing.

Drivers here are cancer period. They'll fucking run you off the road if you're accelerating from a stoplight at anything less than full throttle just to cruise 4mph over 19 seconds later.

>>14971026
you've never had to start on a 20 degree slope have you?

>>14971092
I don't drive slushies noob.

>>14971094
>thing it's more of a some moron stopped .001" away from my bumper
Let your car roll back before they even come to a stop. They'll get the idea.
They literally always do.

>>14971099
>you've never had to start on a 20 degree slope have you?
20 degrees? That's it.

Come to the Taco Bell in Kennett Square, PA.

>>14970091
3? Crikey where you at?

>tfw UK allows 14, and stalling once doesn't count.

Still passed with 3 errors lel

>>14971106
Sounds like Dschörmenie or Australia minus al

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I get why some people use the hand brake method on hill starts, but what would you do if you were driving something with a foot operated parking brake? Like one found in most trucks and SUV's. There's really no way to use that on a hill start. If you were reliant on that method and then found yourself without a usable hand brake you'd be in for a tough time.

Pic related.

>>14971122
>that shifter angle
comfy

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>>14971122
I can heel toe my 1st gen Cummins since it has proper spacing between the brake and accelerator. My actual pony car doesn't. Go figure.

>>14971139
>My

>>14971139
I have the same issue though actually. My Explorer has pedals placed well for heel-toeing, my Mustang has the pedals about a mile apart.

Also if that's actually your Cobra I'm gonna need more pictures anon, you can't just post up an engine shot like that without more.

>>14971139
>turbodiesel torks
>any need of even touch an accelerator while depressing clutch to make car creep
nice try

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>>14971157
>Also if that's actually your Cobra I'm gonna need more pictures anon,
>implying /o/ can afford a Cobra
>implying if they did it would be that clean.

>>14969728
What? You don't have to have you foot horizontal you just need a portion of you foot on both pedals since you aren't racing it doesn't matter is you don't have perfect control of the clutch

>>14971161
My tC has enough tork to idle the car around in first gear with the handbrake halfway engaged.
brakes is shit

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>>14971164
Damn it anon, stop destroying my faith in /o/

Am Mach 1 faggot, I was just hoping I found a Cobra friend here. I guess not.

>>14971106
Portugal

>>14971181
>having faith in /o/ to begin with

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>>14971185
I know... I've forgotten what most users here actually commute with... forgive me.

>>14969439
pull the handbrake faggot.

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>>14971199
It's okay..
One day we'll die and we won't have to suffer any longer.

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>using handbrake

Stop the car on neutral, hold it with brake. Once you can go shift to 1st and move your foot from brake to gas, releaesing the clutch simultaneously. It's that easy. Just take some timing so that you don't stall / roll back wards.

>>14970557
>I don't want to learn basic operating procedure before climbing into an expensive and potentially dangerous machine

>>14969616
Maruti AMT:

Starting off on an uphill:
Uphill
1) Apply the parking brake firmly so that the vehicle does not roll backwards.
2) Shift the gearshift lever to the “D” position while depressing the brake pedal. Make sure that the gear position indicator in the instrumental cluster displays 1st gear.
3) Release the brake pedal and depress the accelerator pedal gradually, and when the vehicle starts to move, release the parking brake and depress the accelerator pedal to start off.

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>>14969455

american problems top kek :^)

>>14971688
Pretty much. It blows my mind how murricans with engines putting out more than 400Nm of torque have issues doing a hill start.
I had no issues with a car with about 100Nm and it's literally impossible to have issues with my car (200Nm) since it holds itself with the clutch alone.

>>14969976
what kind of broke ass ghetto driving school was this? at home with your dad?

I've been just putting it in neutral and using the brake pedal tbph
I would only use the handbrake if I knew I'd be there for a while

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>>14971122
>foot operated parking brake
>There's really no way to use that on a hill start.

WHAT.
You just try to get your car moving as usual and when you feel the car is beginning to fight against the brakes (i.e. car front begins to lift a bit) you just release this kind of on/off brake and move.

It's not that hard.

>>14971761
I think you completely missed the point of my comment, anon.

>>14971702
>It blows my mind how murricans with engines putting out more than 400Nm of torque have issues doing a hill start.
that's probably because the majority of american cars with 400Nm have automatic transmission and they don't have to drive a manual tranny car in their whole life.

>>14969455
>>14969439
put the e-brake up. give it a little gas and drop the e-brake.

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>>14971776
so you can't release that kind of brakes by pulling one of these shits with your hand in american cars?

>>14969439
>current year
>not having a car with hill start assist

Made my life a lot easier in the meowntains.

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>>14971799
>in the meowntains.

>>14971790
In most trucks that I've been in, it's released using a small lever that is just above the pedal, so you have to reach down in a way that is essentially impossible to do with your feet still on the clutch and brake while attempting a hill start.

My point is everyone driving manual should just know how to do a hill start without using the e-brake, it's not all that difficult.

>>14971799
fuck off Sigma not all of us have money for that shit

>>14971820
who is sigma? :3

>>14971820
even my fiat punto from 2002 has one

>>14971813
>so you have to reach down in a way that is essentially impossible to do with your feet still on the clutch and brake while attempting a hill start.

I see.
Well I've only encountered this kind of parking brakes in old Benzes and there it is easy as fuck to operate that release switch/lever/whatever they call that thing to pull.

>>14971825
someone who's packing 12 inches ;^)

>>14969439
>>14969455
>hold the brake

I'd like to see what happens to all these automatic hill-holder cucks when they're standing at a traffic light on a hill and shit is defective and won't work.

the less people have to be aware of basic operation thanks to all those electronic nannies the more they'll be fucked in case shit fails

>>14970067
>Rev shitbox to maximum
>slip the fuck out of the clutch
>3rd gear hill starts are now possible

But stupid if anything

>>14971026
wtf man

if it's a fucking long stop I'm not going to stay clutch in like a moron, that's neutral+handbrake so that i'm comfy

then handbrake start because I'm not a burning clutch moron

are you autistic ?

>>14969707
>launch slowly

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>>14971104
you don't mean this do you

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>>14969455
>wave arm for them to get back a little
>ease off brake while using heel to give throttle and left foot to slip clutch
>leave with no problem

I don't get it.

>>14970987
size 12 mens

my pedals are just ergonomically designed for better dagumi unlike yours

> right toe on brake pedal
> left foot on clutch
> to go, shift you right foot from toe (brake) to heel (gas) as you let out the clutch
> drive away

>>14969439
>>14969455
Are hill starts difficult for Americans?

>>14971164
That's not my Cobra nor did I claim it was. It's a visual representation like 90% of the pictures on here.

>>14971157
>>14971170
>People who don't tow detected.

>>14969478

If you need to use the handbrake you're doing it wrong. You should be able to hill start with a quick movement of the right foot from brake to accelerator coupled with appropriate clutch input.

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>>14969906
>>14969755
>tfw every 17yo piece of ass over here knows how to start on a hill

>>14969720
nobody over here is impressed by basic car operation. That's the fucking point.

>>14973586
What does towing have to do with my comment?

>>14969723
I wear 16C shoes and the method that works for me is to put the toe on the gas and mid/heel on the brake for hill starts

>>14971106

This nigga passed with 0. Based shitty Birmingham drivers keeping me on my toes.

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>>14969625

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>just bought my first manual car
>this is my driveway

Who else here /nightmaredriveway/

>TFW I live in the mountains
>tfw when faggots can't properly drive a manual
>tfw this is stressful to some people
Sell it and drive mommies mini van back and forth to the roller rink if you can't properly drive your vehicle

>>14973917
where's the fucking problem? you don't have to stop mid-way so you drive up that shit not much differently compared to autotragic

>>14973917
lol that's not even bad

>>14973958
>>14973968
I have to stop where the arrow ends, because my car parks outside. Sometimes the other car is parked too far to the left and I have to take that curve with a clearance of inches

>>14973917
so put it in first and step on the gas.
driving manual is the same as driving auto.

i dont even notice im shifting 90% of the time.
it becomes second nature muscle memory in like 3 days.

i dont know what this boards obsession with this topic is.

You learn how to do it quickly without a handbrake, but even on really steep inclines it's better to use the handbrake

>>14969439
>>14969455
spot the americans

>>14971761
You realize some of those new foot operated parking brakes are "Push to release" shit right?

>>14975303
rustled softly

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/o/ is stuck in the 1990 - 2003 era and doesn't know that they have a modern solution to this

>>14973619
yeah but like, why?

>>14975449
>letting your car brake for you
>letting your car just do whatever the fuck it wants
>letting your literally fuck your wife

>>14976757
I've been driving standard for 2 weeks now.

The first night I went out to practice driving for hours, and later I spent an hour doing hill starts because the route I take to work has a shit ton of hills where you WILL get stuck on a hill. I skipped the e-brake method and went straight to holding the clutch far into the bite point, almost to the stall point, and then switching my right foot from the brake to the gas pedal while the clutch holds the car there. Now I've found out that I can just quickly release the clutch to the biting point and feather around with the gas pedal until I feel the clutch and flywheel grip, then proceeding as normal. If you rev too high, the clutch slips, so it's a weird sensation having to give the car a little less gas. I know I could just release the clutch more, but I really like to try to get this piece of shit to ride as smooth as my Jag's ZF box. By the way, no tach, no speedo, bad selector links, and very touchy syncros going into 2nd.

The hill hold shit takes the thrill out of driving standard.

>>14976818
>>14976818
>>14976757
>>14976757
Sorry, didn't mean to quote you. I was just too lazy to scroll up to the OP and forgot to delete your gay ass post number, fag.

>>14976818
>holding the clutch far into the bite point
doesnt this kill the clutch?

>>14969439
>when u drive onto that new bridge but u find out it aint finished yet

>>14976844
I looked into how a clutch and transmission/selector links worked before teaching myself to drive manual. It really doesn't put any more significant wear on the clutch than starting normally. The engine bogs down a bit, of course, but on a normal start, you are doing the same thing just faster. If anything, I would say it wears the clutch less than how most normies get a standard car started (revving the engine a bit and feathering the clutch). It's quickly synchronized to the speed of the flywheel and then transmits the load onto the gears once the car is fully in gear.

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>>14976856

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>>14976818
>while the clutch holds the car there

AAAAHAHAH.

Enjoy going through clutches like underwear.

Fucking seriously, /o/, what the flying FUCK.

>>14976896
For literally half a second while I move my right foot over a few inches, yes, it holds it there. While you burn your clutch by not knowing how to balance the pedals from a start. I'm not holding it there the entire time. I AM using the brakes, you know

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>>14969992
>my mom's estate
>it had a magnificent 1.4l petrol engine with a mindblowing 110Nm of torque
how can you not be embarrassed for tripping, everyone knows you're a fucking joke that drives 1.0 diesel yuropoor shitboxes

>europeans
why do you even browse /o/ for fuck's sake

>>14970067
That's really fucking smart, nice job.

Wanna learn clutch control?
Try parallel parking uphill

>>14976818
>>14976861
no. no not really.
see if you use your clutch to brake the engine is still spinning while the wheels stay still. all you are doing is grinding your clutch. its slipping any time the engine speed isnt synchronized to the speed of the transmission. anytime your engine is on and the clutch isnt fully disengaged, it's slipping. thats what slipping means. it means the clutch is rubbing and not gripping firmly. if the clutch is partially engaged and keeping the car from rolling then it is slipping. although you might have a take it easy hill start assist system you dont even realize you have and this is preventing you from rolling backwards causing you confusion.

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>>14976991
apparently some men just want to see the clutch burn

>>14977010
No, I know that it's slipping to an extent. I'm just saying it's less wear than most people put on their clutches with clumsy feet.

I don't even have power brakes, there is no chance of having hill assist in this shitty old Jetta. My newest way of hillstarting puts the least amount of wear on dat dere clutch.
>stopped on a hill = car in neutral, not touching clutch, foot on brake
>line starts to move = jam the shitbox in first, smoothly release clutch to biting point while simultaneously moving foot from brake to gas and finding the right amount of friction to get the fucker in gear as quickly as possible
I didn't mean to say that I didn't think the clutch wasn't slipping at all... it's always going to slip a little bit no matter what you do.

>>14977024
nah there is a way to shift without slipping the clutch. it's called rev matching. essential in old cars that require double clutch because synchromesh gears didnt exist. also essential if your synchros fail. also if button clutch.

>>14977059
Yeah but getting a car started requires at best a minute amount of clutch slip.

>>14977067
>getting a car started requires at best a minute amount of clutch slip

no the clutch is not engaged during this period. the clutch connects the transmission to the engine. you hold the clutch all the way in to start the car.

>>14977067
oh i misread that. you wrote minute. meaning you slip the gears every gear change. just rev match.

>>14976904
I was being ironic, dimwit.

>>14977112
I wrote minute, as in a small amount. When you are getting the car started, you can't rev match, bro. The car is stationary. I'm talking about starting a car that is travelling 0 km per hour. The clutch slips just a tiny bit. That's how a clutch works. I don't think you're reading my posts carefully or we're both very tired.

>>14977112
think mine-oot instead

>>14976991
I physically cringed at the thought of having to do this.

Fuck that, I'm parking down the street.

>>14969728
What? If you can't do it the initial meme way try breaking with your heel and throttle with the top of your foot? I can do that in anything I've driven without practicing

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>>14969698

>Not owning an AWD vehicle.

>>14969577
underrated

Advice for new manual drivers.
Step 1. Buy low-powered, lolnotorkz cheap af car e.g. Nissan Micra
Step 2. Go to the steepest hill you can find.
Step 3. Start.
Step 4. Stop.
Step 5. Return to said hill.
Repeat Steps 3 to 5 until you feel comfortable.

>>14969502
idk anon ive seen plenty of auto shit boxes roll backward on hills like in 1st due to no trox

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>>14969455

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>>14971707
>tfw dad was an ORDIT registered instructor

You're supposed to use the handbrake on a hill start? I just rev the car up a little more than usual before letting the clutch off and don't take my foot off the acceleration until I'm over the slope. It isn't fucking hard

>>14972855
>wave arm

That could mean anything.

is it weird that my 3t40 (THM125C) rolls backwards without gas on a hill? i figure since the design is 40+ years old and its mostly mechanical, it doesnt act like a modern 4 speed / 6 speed.

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>>14969756
PUT IT IN H!

>>14969935
handbrake. i think americans call them ebrakes

>>14982623
Well, both names are retarded.

>>14983226
How is handbrake retarded?

>>14969439
Do brakes not work when engaging the clutch on some cars? What am I missing on here?

>>14969439
>tfw you've lost the 4 10mm sockets you had in various sizes before you started
>go to hardware store
>tfw they're stocked in every socket size except 10mm
why is 10mm magic?

>>14983511
some people are either beginners or have bad coordination so working three pedals with two feet is hard.

maximum pressure to not fuck it up or pay lots of money in repairs for the other guy adds to their sense of fear.

>>14976991
Been there, done that. On a steep fucking incline too. Think "can-only-drive-in-first-or-reverse-because-higher-gears-stall" kind of steep.

Really is no problem, fuck sake, i didnt know this was an issue to so many?!
Learn to do it in an ancient shitbox, or a shitty 1.2l Corsa and youll never forget it.

Or get a manuél diesel with a bunch of torks and start from third gear...

>>14976918
Not imblying i do that, but its possible.


During my driving lessons i stopped at a stop sign on a nice steep incline, in the 1.2 shitbox petrol Opel Corsa with LPG, and i was gonna go, as usual, but it was kinda slow to get up to speed.
After i climbed to level ground i was like "wtf why it so slow" and my instructor laughed his ass off and almost smacked me over the head.... Turns out i was in 2nd.

>>14969455
>tfw Mustang GT has hill start assist
>hold brake
>press clutch
>shift into 1st
>release brake
>car holds brake for you just enough to prevent rolling
>apply throttle while releasing clutch
>move forward
>brake releases automatically

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I drive a 2002 Z06 Vette. Got an LS7 clutch upgrade. I tried using the handbrake once, just to see what you homosexuals were on about. It was stupid. It's so easy to launch off sorta like a heel and toe way.

>Massive low end torque life

>>14983291
The "hand"brake in my car is leg-operated.

non-driver here

why is this pic bad?

>>14970067

>Get americlap smallblock burger8
>Hill starts in 4th now a possoboloty

>>14983560

I meant it is a more stressful situation than a simple hill start when you're starting to drive.
At least in my case it was.
I'm yuro btw.

>>14983671
Because /o/ can't drive.

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>>14969756
>140 HP diesel turd
>mfw 550 Nm torks

>>14975449
My BMW has this and it's spotty at best. Sometimes it will work or not on the same hill. Usually end up ignoring it since I can shift fast enough to not roll back.

>>14983671
>non-driver here
Average /o/ poster

>>14976991
>drive 90s 1.4l Nissan shitbox
>had to parallel park uphill almost everyday where I lived

The amount of relief when I finally pulled the handbrake and felt the car lift a little was nuts. Kinda miss it though

>>14969945
welcome to /o/, newfag

>>14983577
I have an ecoboost, i think it messed with launches and made me stall more often

>>14969756
Kek, that reminds me, when learning to drive I once drove away in third gear from a dead stop at a traffic light. My instructor said he didn't think the shitbox would have it in him (Volkswagen Polo diesel).

>>14985185
>polo aka lightweight
>diesel aka all the torks
It's the one thing you do right with a diesel. In day to day driving it has a lot more staying power than a gasoline engine because you're always at low revs anyway.

>>14969478
>those stupid fucks who hold their car at a hill using the clutch at bite
Are there really people that need the handbrake? What's the worse that can happen? Even if you stall it, the engine cuts out and the car sits still because in gear.

Are you guys really this bad at hill starts?

Shits easy yo
The next level is giving it a perfect slight roll back so other drivers know you're /masterrace/

>>14988650
>roll back at the lights intentionally so that people think you're driving a manual car

>>14988659
Well when you put it like that faggot

>>14970456
Depends on where you live I've been in norcal and it's miles of fucking nothing around Antioch or rockland

>>14969439
I drive a car with close to 100hp and hill starts have never been a problem. The fuck is wrong with you god damn spergs that you can't perform the simplest of tasks?

>>14988718
Anons don't develop good coordination when they sit on a computer or in front of video games as kids all their lives

>>14988728
can confirm

>>14969439
They put a clutch break on mine, pussy assist :(

>>14969455
How to do this

>right foot on brake
>blip throttle with right foot, maintaining brake
>dump clutch
>full throttle no brake

>>14969455

>slightly engage clutch
>the moment you feel it bite, release the brake and ease on the gas
>zero roll-back and slip

This isn't hard.

I once had to do a hill start on a parking lot when the hill was icy in a manual 1993 Mercedes-Benz E200D.

Basically, I just spun my back tires until the people behind me let me reverse to get some speed. Not the most pleasant of experiences.

>>14969439
I dont get this image. Stall the car?

>>14990595
t. never driven a car before

>>14969439
>hold clutch to bite point
>quickly release the brakes and step on gas
>not too much gas but enough so that the car leaves
>congratulations you're not a fucking faggot

Aside from leaving in third gear you can't stall in ramps. Especially on gasoline cars, the first gear is fucking short so it's easy to leave with no torque

>>14990996
forgot to mention releasing fully the clutch smoothly after like 5-6 km/h

>>14969924
kek

>>14983560
Saints fucking suck #dab on em