The Inline 6 is the most versatile engine ever produced. The

inline 6 is an outdated piece of this like inline 8s

>>14935787
Found the guy with a civic

>>14935780
V6 is the superior engine.

The I6 design is outdated.

>>14935780
I like I6's

V8 > V6 > I4 > other shit

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>>14935780
But I have made the switch.

>>14935824
>v6
Muh no torque

>>14935798
Only because it's more square instead of long and skinny so packaging is easier. Inline engines have the advantage of only needing one set of camshafts and being naturally balanced. Inline sixes specifically have the advantage of being made by BMW.

>>14935879
This guy gets it

>>14935825
>that pic
Triggered as hell
Do you still use low maintenance batteries?

>>14935780

>versatile

I don't think you know what that means.

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>>14935891
Replaced it for an Optima Red top shortly after that photo was taken (and when that one failed to start the car about a month after that photo was taken).

>>14935892
>handle boost extremely well
>make as much torque as they do hp
>are put in rock crawlers and track cars yet still have the ability to get 30mpg
What were you saying again?

>>14935914
none of that is inline 6 inherent lol

>>14935920
Jeeps and M3. Get fucked

>>14935933
completely irrelevant to the discussion

none of that has anything to do with inline 6

What can rev higher, a V6 or i6? Same displacement, bore x stroke, ect

>>14935914
Theyre incredibly hard to package in most cars. The v6 or i4 are the versatility kings.

>>14935960
V6 has a lighter crankshaft so it has less rotational mass

not sure if it can rev more but it can rev faster

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they're undeniably the BEST engines, and BEST configuration.

Packaging is the only reason they're not used today, and it sickens me.

>>14935975
What about the balance shaft on the V6?

>>14935987
what about it?

>>14936003
Its a large chuck of weight so wouldnt it even out the rotational mass

>>14936025
I6 is the pinnacle of engine balance

>>14936025
no

its still less mass than the inline 6

L28 baby

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inline 6 is shit

flat 6 is objectively superior

>>14936289
It's okay to be wrong. And you are

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>>14935803
You're right. Things are automatically better because they're new. Like how Justin Bieber is better than Bach. Oh and how The New Coke is better than that shitty Coke Classic.

Inline six engines have never had an upgrade to their design. None of them have fuel injection or electronic ignition. They still have pushrods and no VVT or even any positive crank case ventilation. Did Bach have autotuning or an 808? No he didn't, because he was a faggot.

Inline sixes also are "naturally balanced" but that's fucking dumb. Shit grandpa, it's the future! Why design something that's already balanced when we could have two or twenty balancer shafts to get rid of the vibration. That dildozer Bach didn't even have balancer shafts, how boring.

And man, I'm so glad I have so many cams on my V engine! I love cams so much, cams are the best. I'm so glad I have to pay for twice as many cams as an inline motor, and those only have 1 cam chain. Can you imagine? My Audi V8 has more chains than Mr T. Coke classic didn't have cam chains, maybe that's why Bill Cosby wouldn't rape it.


Anyways you're a collosal interstellar faggot. The inline or slant six has not been outmoded yet. "outdated" is used for shitty Harley V twins.

>>14936289
Flat 6 > V6 > inline 6

tbqh

Why did vw never solve the inline 8 crank whip problem and make a vr8 as long as an i5/i6? It would be neato IMO

>>14936439
B-but. 4chinz said different!

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>>14935940
>most durable engine with an astonishingly long production run, highly sought after by people building jeeps

>consistently awarded engines, the S54 revving to 8100RPM stock and being so overbuilt that it can make daily driver 650hp from a supercharger on pump gas.

>nope, nothing to do with I6 engines

>>14936453
because the shitty W8 exists.

>>14936439
>pushrods are outdated maymay
>both ohc and ohv came out at roughly the same time

It's like you guys think it's sidevalve or IOE or something

Honest question.

Why is there so many bends? Isn't straighter better for air flow?

>>14936502
it doesnt

only a tard would think it does

then again you I6 fags are coming across as borderline retarded fanboys

>>14936516
It's about having them be equal length. Also it looks cool. There's extremely minimal flow loss.

>>14936502
that has nothing to do with the layout just who built it, you can slap a turbo/supercharger on a so called boat anchor v8 with a stock bottom end and a cam change and make 650hp all day

>>14935825
I wish we had these in the US.

Is there anything the average /o/tist won't argue over?

>>14936529
>>14936520
They are superior platforms for performance based mods. How are you this retarded to not understand this

>>14936546
theyre not

a V8 is better in pretty much every way

inline 6 fags are clinging to an outdated shit engine

>>14936556
Tell me why v8 is better than i6. And show your work

>>14936546
>being this ignorant to lsx blocks that can take 1500hp from boost from the factory

like i said, depends on who built the engine

>>14936556
And we will always go back to fuel economy. They are superior for a reason no matter how much you delude yourself

>>14936578
>I dont show any proof but you need to

the staple of the idiot fanboy

V8s in general are

easier packaged
higher displacement
easier to get more power
less complicated

not a single supercar uses an inline 6 theres a reason for that

the inline 6 was good back in 1940 when people were trying to figure out how to balance V8s

>>14936608
Yeah, that's why bmw still produces them. You might literally be retarded

>>14936626
I think you are tbqh

youre definitely not old enough to drive at the least

>>14936638
>no u
>ur probably young
Great argument. I've driven just about every engine you can imagine, and was able to settle on the opinion of what is the most versatile. I'm sorry about your blasted ass

Ok so WHY do you think that an I6 is the most superior engine?

Give me some facts. No memes or shitty comparitive examples. I'm talking theory here. Why is having 6 cylinders in line from one another better than any other arrangement for a given displacement and bore/stroke/rod?

>>14936658
>still hasnt done anything except insults and name calling

hows grade school treating you?

>>14936666
>still hasnt done anything
>has been asked to explain why a v8 is superior
>keeps going back to saying "hur dur yer yung"

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I4 master-race

>>14936707
>arguing with devil quads

>>14936707
>this triggered over being called underage
>cant come up with an argument better than
>muh inline 6
>no facts
>gets presented facts
>ignores them and gets mad like a spoiled child

epic

>hurr durr guys this specific arrangement of cylinders is best all else a shit

>ignores bore and stroke ratio
>ignores rod and stroke ratio
>ignores head design
>ignores packaging and weights constraints

Why do you kids do this? Don't be impressionable retards because some faggot tells you a 2JZ is the gawd machine.

>>14936771
2jz is a god machine
fuck you

why inline 6?

cause sound

IDGAF about anything else, nothign sounds better than JZ and/or RB engines

>>14936516
As long the turns aren't too sharp and the pipes don't have waves in them from the bending process having equal length is better.

>>14936663
The design is fairly easy to balance and you don't have to deal with have 2 sets of things like cams.
The layout of inline engines allow tend to be better than Vs for making torque despite what American engineering tried to do with high torque V8s. That why most shipping trucks have inline 6s.
Inlines also have fairly continuous bottom ends so they tend to be strong and respond well to boost.
The real disadvantage is packaging so they *easily* fit into smaller cars.

Of course with enough engineering pretty much every engine layout can be good.

>>14936439
V6 blown the fuck out

I agree OP. Love the inline 6 in my 128i.

>>14936822
This. It's so smoothly

>>14936771

PERFECTLY

BALANCED

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>>14935780

Beautiful S54.

Proud 5 year owner myself.

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Lancia made perfectly balanced V6's way back when it made the first mass production v6 in the 1950's, so that should never be an argument.

>>14937300
muh balance is all inline6fags have to go on tho

>Inline 6
>more perfectly balanced than a V8

Depends on who builds it, that's for sure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y-Gdz6N-dU

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>versatile - able to adapt or be adapted to many different functions or activities.
>I6 - only works well in longitudinal FR applications

>>14937324
>only works well in longitudinal FR applications

Which is the only correct configuration, everything else is a meme at this point.

>>14937332
rwd is the only meme

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>>14937332
>Awful polar moment of inertia
>Poor space efficiency
>less weight over the rear wheels

No wonder a v6 was the last engine to win the F1 championship with an FR layout.

>>14937344
>>14937353
nerds

>>14937353
>less weight over the rear wheels
Pretty much all BMWs are 49.5 front and 50.5 back.

Well the LS is lighter than most, if not all I6 engines and makes more power stock, but im sure the I6 has its positives as well,, i do love them , prob one of my favorite layouts desu

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>>14937378
Less weight over the rear wheels compared to a MR or an RR, which are both superior configurations.

>>14937300
>the first V6 was perfectly balanced
I don't think so Tim

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>>14937447
Your wrong though. You can see one of these v6's running at the 1:50 mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d01ew4I7Udg

And as you can see and hear, it's perfectly balanced.

>>14936992
word. engines kicks ass in my Z4M.

S54 master race

>>14937415
lol no.

>>14935825
hahaha!
it's a Ford...

>>14935914
> make a much torque as they do hp

If this were true, which it isn't for all i6's, it would only mean they either can't rev past 5200rpm or their torque drops way off at that point

>>14937519
>V6 engine is perfectly balanced
>*with 11 balancer shafts

This entire thread is just bmw fanboys trying to justify their shitty planned obsolescence shitboxes

>>14937807
This entire thread is just ford fanboys trying to justify their ecoboost MPG boxes

>>14937797
11 balancer shafts? really?

I'm being sarcastic if you can't tell.

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>>14935780
Ayy!

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>>14935963
>having a shitbox so small it cant fit a I6 in it.
You sound european

>>14936439
top kek anon str8 6 ford barra master race reporting in

>>14937807
Jap and old Murica I6s are better anyway

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>>14938170
Jeep 4.0L I6 was a GOAT engine. Not shit for power on the highway, but goddamn those things felt like you could pull a cruise ship up a boat ramp at lower speeds.

Too bad the rest of the car would fall apart long before the engine.

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>>14936992
Five years for me as well. It's a god damn beast.

>>14937324
>driving anything other than FR

lmao

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>>14938201

>>14938154
BMWs come from Europe you stupid fuck

>>14936878
>The layout of inline engines allow tend to be better than Vs for making torque
Er, just because you say so, doesn't make it so.
>That why most shipping trucks have inline 6s.
No, it's just easier to balance such a large, long stroke rotating mass. Don't forget some of the Euros building V8s that are amongst the most powerful truck engines. Heck, It's kind of ironic one if the smoothest highway haulage power plant engines available today is Mercedes Benz's OM501 V6.
>Inlines also have fairly continuous bottom ends so they tend to be strong and respond well to boost.
What th fuck are you talking about?

>>14935987
Not all V6s have balance shafts.

The i6 is good
long hoods are good

H6.

Get on my level !

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>>14935879
>Inline sixes specifically have the advantage of being made by BMW
Really can't fault that logic

>>14938553
Did you get a loaner car?

>>14937706
you must not be very good at maths

This has to be a troll thread. Surely at some point /o/ became aware that cylinder layout is one of the least important things about an engine.

Engine control, flow characteristics, aspiration, displacement, these things matter. Layout really doesn't.

There is nothing that inherently makes an inline six more powerful, and certainly no one can claim that V6s haven't been as widely and successfully applied as L6s. And despite what /o/ will tell you, packaging does important things to a car - prime examples being the Corvette and RX-7 which use their compact engines to achieve a low hood and sleeker aerodynamics, as well as superior weight distribution.

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>>14935879

>have the advantage of being made by BMW
>advantage

You mean disability.

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>>14936289
>flat 6 is subjectively superior
ftfy

Big 6 Masta Race

>>14936822
>JZ and RB
any other real examples that arnt complete memes?

>>14935825
Fix it again Tony, hehe

I'm planning on getting an XR6 for my next car, love the idea of having an I6 and I think Fords interior it much more pleasant than Holden's.

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Reminder that the L series is the best.

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>>14939317
what... That isnt... wait, what am I looking at...dohc?

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>>14939317
is this what im looking at ? a gtr engine >>14939369

>>14939380
OS Giken head

>>14935780
Why's the exhaust glowing orange when there's no load on the engine, no coolant pipes, no fuel lines and no wiring to the engine?

>>14939603
it's dat gud mane

>>14935780

v8 is better

not as long so you can use it for mid engine applications without ruining the balance of the car

sounds way better too

>>14939603
And why are there neon lights inside the headers?

>>14935780
it that painted?

>>14939706
Couldn't you just mount the I6 transversely?

>>14940429
What kind of front suspension do you plan on running?

>>14940429
They are pretty long engines. Regardless, there is zero reason to mount transversely from a performance stand point.

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>>14938170
This is true.

>>14939257
Make sure to get the turbo. The NAs are boring as shit

>>14940455
I mean if you have a mid engines car.

>>14940465
>guys...

>guys.

>guys listen

>i have the best ide

>guys listen

>i have the best idea ever

>guys

>i'll put EXHAUST

>guys

>exhaust

>I'll put exhaust

>guys listen here

>I'll put exhaust... DIRECTLY under the carburetor.

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>>14936666
>6666
>Sixes in a line
>I6

>>14935780
>doesn't have a pushgods I6
kak

>>14935977
Flat six is king

>can't actually stall car because engine is smooth as glass and can idle at 200 rpm

>>14940777
reverse flow starts good

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>>14935780
I see your inline six and raise you an inline twelve.

With 20000 liters of displacement.

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>>14935780
Won't fit.

>>14939720
>>14939712
>>14939603

I think they did a long exposure and light-painted the pipes with a laser pointer.

Also
>plastic zip-tie on a glowing exhaust

>>14939165
BMWs l6?

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>>14942509
>can idle at 200 rpm
Damn that is some heavy flywheel. must feel like a slug to rev.

Now if you had a V12 though, then you'd have enough overlapping between power strokes to keep a continuous torque.

>>14936544
What's the best color for ricer civic neon lights /o/?

>>14936878
Why is inline better for torque? Not memeing, I'm actually curious

>>14935780
>tfw driving a pushrod i6
You focking wot mate

>>14942990
Inline 6s are typically designed with a longer stroke compared to their bore size because having a big bore would make the engine too long.

Longer stroke = torks

>>14942979
green, with black paint for that F&FDM

>>14935780
not everyone cares about being a race fag

>>14936593
>muh fuel economy

Might as well get a 3 cyl if you're going that way. The only good point you can think of comparing I6 to V8 is fuel economy.

>>14940455
ask volvo they managed to do it

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Who here is going to be a 300k starting salary engineer and buy the next I6 Lexus?

>>14943021
Torque is a function of rod length to stroke, that is, the severity of the angle by which the rod intersects the crank arm in a rotation. Bore size has no direct affect on torque in the way that you are thinking.

>>14938425
THIS

>>14935865
V6... Gas mileage of an efficient v8 with the power of an efficient inline 4

>>14935825
what kind of shitty ausfailian battery is that? do you pop it open every now and then and add electrolytes? Lmao

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>>14935780
>inline engines
>ever

>>14935914

Versatile: adj.

(of people) able to do many different things or to adjust to new conditions, or (of things) able to be used for many different purposes:
>He was a versatile guitarist, and recorded with many leading rock bands.
>It is an especially versatile insecticide known to control a range of insects.

I6 > Small V8 > I5 > I4 > V8 > V6
Opinion

>>14943805
I don't recall ever saying bore size affects torque.
>>14935891
>>14944084
How about these fags. Everything can last longer if it's able to be serviced.
My dad drills holes in maintenance free batteries so he can fill em up and get them to last longer. I've never needed to do that but good to know it's an option

>>14935780
The typical user on /o/ is the most bigoted faggot ever produced. The fact that people take the time to indulge you blows my mind. Why haven't you matured?

>>14935780
Are you implying there is no pushrod I6?

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>>14945595
>>14935780
The MG C says hi.

>>14945533
Your post referenced torque as being related to the bore and stroke ratio, which it is not.

Throwing an inline 6 into my volvo 240 would actually be pretty cool.

>>14945676
Hella horns on that? not sure what to think

I6 (also flat 6) and its older brother the V12 are mathematically the smoothest layouts. Both their first and second modes of vibration are inherently balanced by the firing order of the cylinders.

>>14938211
and thats why theyre trash kiddo

>>14939165
ford barra

>>14946667
I6 and flat six arent the same

>>14936822
Nissan L-series engines,like the L26,L28.

>>14936608
Car enthusiast, never heard of a BMW M1. I want so much advice, tell me more!

>>14944084
See
>>14935906

>>14938773
uh, no that's exactly how torque and hp work.

below 5200 rpm torque is greater than horsepower, and above 5200rpm it's the other way around.

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>>14935780
>The fact that people buy shitboxes with lawn mower engines and push rod boat anchors blows my mind
>implying you need 270+ HP IL-6 for a daily driver

Really, most 2.5's are more than enough for an A to B car. You do not need to take the hit on gas mileage just for a bigger, more expensive engine that does nothing but get you from 0-60 a couple seconds faster (unless you want to spend the money, I'm not gonna tell you otherwise)

>>14935879
>Inline sixes specifically have the advantage of being made by BMW.

But thats a major disadvantage.

Toyota and Nissan made the only good i6.

Il stick to my i4 instead of that german garbage that breaks all the time.

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>>14938920
>no replies
Bazinga!

>>14946793

Define "greater"

An inline 6 engine would ruin my Miata's weight distribution. A V configuration engine swap would fit better. The V8 is basically two L4 in one. The V6 is two L3 in one.

>>14935780
Because i cant trust gm to make an i6 and i dont know of a honda i6.

>>14942832
I said it can, not that it does

>>14945468
your opinion is wrong

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>>14936297
name an inline six as succesful as porsche flat 6's

>brotip you can't

inline 6 a LITERAL shit

bump for reminder

>>14946036
>torque is not related to bore and stroke ratio

you are retarded

>>14947178
Ok then explain to me how bore and stroke is related to torque? What does the diameter of a circle have to do with crank pin angle?

>not making 1400 hp
>not getting 25 mpg highway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW9SsD4NK6U

>>14946708
Yes but the mechanics of vibration reduction are the same

t. mechanical engineer (not 300k starting)

>>14947229
because displacement dummy

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>>14947167
>porch and lesbaru have made flat sixes
Wow such success so great I'm shaking in my spaceboots here.

>anything but a 3 cylinder engine

>>14937690
>>14939216
found the bogans

>>14947342
name an inline 6 as succesful as porsche aircooled flat engines
>brotip you still can't

inline 6 a shit

>>14936452
H6 > I6 > longitudinal V6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transverse V6

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>>14935780
fuck they're out tonight

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>>14939369
>>14939380
What >>14939388 said, DOHC head from OS Giken for the L24.

>>14938185
The ford 4.9l I6 was the best gas engine made. They last forever and have the power of a v8

>>14935780
I've had the real motor for the past 3 years now.
Previous N/A barra, then turbo barra, and now 1JZ master race

>>14946866
Well, they aren't comparable units, but a greater number, as that's how horsepower is defined.

hp = (ft-bs * rpm)/5200

The poster I responded to made the same technical mistake.

I6 is a garbage layout and the only people who disagree are delusional ricers (muh 700lb rb and jz boar anchors) and bmw faggots (muh m3)

An f20c makes 240hp why should i get an inline 6

>>14948433
... Yes, and?

>>14948439
And? Its better performing than any available i6. Rest have more weight and cost more.

>>14948444
Better performing than any I6?
Based on what?
>Rest have more weight and cost more
Sounds like you're not so certain and are building an escape route.

Tell us what I6's it's better than.

>boat anchors
>not inline 6

aluminum block/head naturally aspirated 90 degree over-head-valve V8 here. kill yourself.

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>>14947383
>S52B32
>S54B34
>2J family
>whatever the fuck Ford Australia is doing
>that Nissan thing

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>>14948568
Don't forget dat L-series I6 from Nissan!