NO ENGINE CAN BEAT THE V8

Where all the fuel economy at?

Inb4 someone posts some ridiculously large displacement V8 with laughable power figures.

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ayy

>>14901145
there's more to life than MPG's.

>>14901150
yea, but the only one that exist are old engines and when compared to the engines of their time, op's formula still applies.

it's actually pretty true.

also, >>14901145
>>14901159

modern v8's will shut off half their cylinders during city driving. they're incredibly fuel efficient

>>14901159
>tfw you can't afford to drive your car because it drinks gas like a thirsty hooker

>>14901189
So you may as well buy a car with a smaller engine rather than looking like a smalldick in your Mustang

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Can I play?

>>14901217
all v8's welcome

>>14901208
are you dumb? it relaxes during city driving to save you money, then when you want to go FULL HOON WITNESSED the v8 comes alive

it's incredibly smart technology.

>>14901136
>In terms of reliability, v8's are the pinnacle of reliability due to them requiring the engine to turn the least amount to spin the wheels
Hey, want to know how I know you don't know much about cars?

>>14901136
As the owner of 2 V8 cars, fuck off with this bait

>>14901195
Thirsty hookers drink gas?

>>14901249
moron detected

>>14901136
>2016
>naturally-aspirated engines

>>14901334
>not having a twin turbo v8

you fucking FAGGOT

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Anybody else here 5.3L Vortec or am I the only redneck?

>>14901361
name the i4 turbo that can beat a fully built twin turbo ls3

You can't, because your i4 turbos grenade over a thousand hp, meanwhile in v8 land...

http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/hrdp-1109-stock-gm-ls-engine-big-bang-theory/

Yea, it's taking over 1400hp with stock internals. After coming from a junkyard.

>>14901361
>Delusions

Best i4 can't beat the best v8, so kindly shut the fuck up.

Your only argument is MPG, you pathetic faggot. We're talking about power here.

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>>14901136

>perfectly balanced

>>14901345
got a 2001 tahoe with the 5.3 vortec. it's a fine motor. about 250k and i still get over 60 psi oil pressure when i'm driving around. would like to get a black bear tune one of these days, but need to replace the power steering pump and some other odds and ends first.

>>14901145
Next to your anal beads, faggot

>>14901341
>Not having a supercharger on your V8
>Turbos ever
Are you a manlover son?

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euro v8 reporting in
displacement is usually rather small but they sure do sound nice and make smooth power

>>14901568
NOT HAVING BOTH

NOT WITNESSED

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>>14901136
Toyota would like to have a word with you

I'll keep my flat twin, thank you very much.

>>14901611
Toyota preferred the v8 on race cars

>>14901622
Yep.

And while the 2jz is a great engine, it's not perfect.

And all the people memeing that it goes to 1000hp with just more boost are fucking retarded.

The block is the only thing that goes to 1000hp, the block is a solid motherfucker. The rest requires upgrading around 600hp or it will grenade itself eventually.

And i'm saying this as someone who loves the supra and owns one.

You don't just "slap a bigger turbo on", it's a recipe for disaster.

american v8s are pure crap

>>14901611
Won't make same power a v8 will, there's a reason toyota used v8 for their race applications.

It's a good tuner platform, but requires extensive work and still has it's limits (despite what F&F faggots think) relating to moving components.

Also has a higher center of gravity.

>>14901656
Actually the LS is pretty fucking good.

The engines are the only things they make good.

And euro and jap v8's are fucking sublime.

>>14901597

all v8s are euro, its an european invention

tfw euro
tfw government would rather bring in more muslims than make v8 affordable

only good V8 is flatplane

fact

>>14901136
>massive displacement
>microscopic hp/liter

V4 here with 117 hp/liter

>>14901720
>v4

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>>14901754
porblem?

>>14901754
>>14901778

BTFO
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>>14901720
And yet porsche's 918 engine beats you on displacement to power.

NATURALLY ASPIRATED TOO

I swear I dont know what they were doing in the 80's and 90's but wow V8's had lower power then.

fuck the smog era.

Got a '98 5.0 explorer with 215 HP /288 tq stock....

Put OBX/toque monster exhaust headers on it and K&N air filter with some extra holes cut in airbox.

Now it dynos 230 HP/ 325 tq.

I can live with this since the torque is decent.

>>14901823
http://press.porsche.com/vehicles/2015/Tech-Specs-2015-Porsche-918-Spyder.pdf

God damn that displacement to power. What a v8.

Why is porsche engineering so fucking based?

>TFW 4 and 6 cylinders need forced induction to get to the displacement/power ratio of a NA V8

>>14901823
Yeah?
>needs an extra 3.5 liters to match 0-60 of a 30 year old Honda
Keking to the moon atm.

>>14901837
Emissions and reliability. Just slap some nitrous on it. Nitrous is the solution for people with v8s who don't want to supercharge.

>>14901855
are you seriously comparing a bike to a car?

that's how fucking desperate you are?

Read the OP, this thread was purely engine vs engine.

Not "let me get an engine and stick it in a 200kg chassis and shitpost about how it's faster than a 1500kg chassis"

V10
V12
W16

whoa that was hard.

>>14901872
Sorry bruv, i'm on cloud 9 right now. Cheapest 9 second vehicle i ever bought.

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>>14901872
Sup

>>14901874
missing the points op made about handling balance and less to replace on a rebuild

a w16 does not handle better, there's a reason veyron can't turn well. it's literally straight line monster.

>>14901879
Hey, enjoy your purchase but this is an engine discussion thread, not a car discussion thread.

I'm actually curious though is there any NA engine that beats the porsche's displacement/power ratio? I know there's no v8 but is there anything else out there that puts out more than 600hp with less than 4.6l? Without forced induction?

I have a V8, ricers are crap.. yeahh V8 baby!

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>>14901136
>tfw no VH45/VH41 in my 240

V8 are cheap engines thar are not good and sound like shit.

If you want displacement just go for a V12 and stop being a fucking pussy thinking that V8 are good and big

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>>14901904
not for that price tag. that's a 900k car so I don't know of anything off the top of the ole head, but I was aways under the impression the f20c by honda was one of the most efficient engines ever produced... but that was 16 years ago, but now, I am curious.

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>Modern straight 8s will never be a thing

>Straight 6s are already biting the dust in favor of transverse V6s in tiny as fuck engine bays

>>14902452
hey you want a spare vh45?

>>14902528
inline engines over 4 are stupid

anything over 6 is completely pointless

>not having a flat-6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwZgxuJ9eI0

>>14901720
Hp per liter means nothing, you only hear ricers talking about it because they are salty that their riced out Civic only makes 160hp and it's all they have to brag about. A car with a 7 liter V8 putting out 700hp is going to be faster than a car of similar weight with a 1.5 liter inline 4 putting out 400.

>>14902564
then musclefags get salty because their V8s are horribly inefficient and cant make any power for their size :^)

>>14902554
>I can't afford it that means it's useless

Good god /o/ is such fucking garbage.

>>14902669
inline 8s are objectively shit

youre probably some fedora wearing faggot who thinks prewar cars are great

>>14901289
so you believe an engines crankshaft is directly connected to the wheels.

o.k.

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>>14901136
if you are taking MPG, repair costs and displacement out of the equation why not a V10 or a V12?
at least it does sound better.
in yurop and japan, and other countries that actually matter, high displacement engines are highly taxed, and fuel is expensive, so v8s are way more expensive to buy and run


you can have a boring v8 and a fun l4, theres more to engines than you might think
>pic related

>>14901136
V12 is superior, because perfect primary and secondary balance. V8s need wonky order, heavy tangles of exhaust, and balance shafts to make them balanced and to deliver decent power.
V10 and V6 are offshoots of the V8, because a V6 is just a V8 with two cylinders missing, and a V10 is a V8 with two taped on.
I6 is superior to a V8 in terms of pretty much everything except dimensions. They tend to be long and skinny, unless mounted sideways.

High centre of gravity due to the V shape, which is inherent to all V-engines.

Also, American V8s are big, heavy, unreliable, and produce next to no power. HP/Litre, and HP/ton are both low.
With modern technology, there is literally no reason to have a V8. You can just get an I6 in the same space, and spin it faster because modern metallurgy can take it. If you're not still casting engine blocks out of cast iron, anyway.

>>14901189
So you may as well buy a car with a smaller engine rather than buying a car to transport half his dead engine

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lol

>>14902738
>i6

I6 a shit

flat 6 is better

>>14901377
>1400
lol no
>blown after a couple of pulls
lol

LS are truly shit

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>>14901568
superchargers are shit, faggot cuck

>>14901136
this is a pure shitpost but I still agree with everything you said OP

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>>14901377
>grenade over 1000
>wild assumptions

jokes on you amerifats here in europe we all drive V12 Ferrari's, fucking faggots with their poxy V8 hahaha

>>14901136
I do agree some what
its at the peak of the bell curve in terms of complexity vs power

>>14901397
This

>>14902787
They'll conviently ignore your post,, this is /o/ after all

>>14902787
lol @ the torque

>>14902923
It's not a fat American(car) it doesn't need 4000lbs of torque to get it moving

>>14903021
you also need weight to put down the power at low speed

>>14903034
nope. 2400lbs class weight rules with driver. Ran 7.88 at 192mph at the last event.

>>14902923
It makes 700 ft lbs. Up to 9k rpm. 700 ft lbs 150 times a second is better than 1000 33 times a second like from a diesel

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>>14901882
>mfw the air intake on top inhales my beard and I get a close shave courtesy of the carburettor

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>>14902787

>>14903109
more what I mean is that normal engines have peak torque at about half the rpm of peak hp
the high hp engines tend to move the peak to an rpm much closer to the peak hp

with the torque so high in the band would different gear ratios be used ?

>>14903109
Get the fuck out of here with your common sense bullshit

>>14902626
>>14901720
It's called a power band. Low displacement cucks wouldn't know a good one if it hit them right in their vagina

>>14903336

125cc 2-stroke fags literally know the best powerbands

>>14903363
It's all over the place mang

>>14901476
I tell ya what, after ripping off my intake manifold three times trouble shooting the knock sensors, I am very wary of parts stores now. That and O2 sensors, fuck them shits man.

>>14902472
>just go for a v12
I'll wait while you show me a crate v12 with an aftermarket, that's intended for automotive applications

>>14903683
Easy. The M140 from Benz. If you want an aftermarket you just buy three cars that have one and pillage for parts, they're all over the place in yurop for as little as 5k

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>>14901224
>all v8's welcome

okay

>perfectly balanced

Sorry OP, but that honor is for the Inline Six

>>14902762

>being objectively wrong

>>14903336
>have v8
>1uz
>power band is good
>too good
>like me this engine has no passion, no soul

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>>14904166
perfect match then

>>14901837
Change the camshaft ya dolt.

>>14901837
i had a 1995 chevy truck with the 350 tbi. i think the specs were 210/300 or something like that, with a fucking 4500 redline.

yes, the cam was wimpy, but i think the biggest restriction were the heads. the intake runner has a little ramp cast into it to help with low flow turbulence. it definitely helped - i think that motor made something like 250 torks just off of idle, it had a crazy low torque curve which is what a truck needs - but it just ran out of breath.

a popular swap for those motors were to just put vortec heads on them. with proper tuning, usually good for about 30-40 peak hp just by themselves.

>>14901136
There are lots of old v8s that make less hp and torque than modern 4 bangers.

So enjoy your slow redneck chicken fucker, I'll enjoy my sweet quick imports that are sexy as fuck, make the pussy drool, and can actually turn.

Faggot.

>>14901159
There's more to life than horsepower

>>14905716
theres also torque.

>>14901136
>No turbo 6cyl can compete with the torque and HP figures of a v8

hahahahaha

ecoboost v6 makes more torque and power than whatever you drive

>>14902775
Both are pretty goat desu senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhtM_NodiTU

>>14901136
you mean a flat-8, OP

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My 4runner is a v8.

>>14905834
lol, you think an ecoboost makes more than a porsche v8?

hahahahahaha

>>14906316
>unironically being this retarded
I get it you're new

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405hp/400 torques from the factory and I can pull this on long trips. This was uphill halfway so I'm sure flatlanding will get me some more. Obvi this isn't the usual but hard to argue with.

>>14901846
the h2r is a production supercharged i4 making 320hp out of 1 litre, which is better than 600hp out of 4.6 litres

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>>14906670
>which is better than 600hp out of 4.6 litres
this is bad bait

>>14901345

I'm swapping one into my jeep, I'll be in the club soon anon

>>14901145
Into the fucking road taxes right in the ass of these cunts. Pay up V8 niggers, wanna pollute, we will fuck your ass niggers

>>14907237
>tfw my flat six is smog exempt
>polluting enough to invalidate the effects of at least 3 prius', 5 if i hit dat accelerator pump

>my fucking face when my gasoline engine rolls coal legally.

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>>14907195
>putting a GM engine into a Chrysler vehicle

>>14907532
Chrysler has made two engine families worth a shit.
The LA, which is old and aftermarket is expensive, not to mention the engine itself.
The 4.0 L6, which is limited in the amount of power it will produce.

>>14907556
>doesn't mention HEMI or Slant-6
Fucking swine you don't deserve a Chrysler vehicle.

>>14907575
the modern HEMI is shit.

Sorry i forgot the slant-6, the original hemi, and the b and rb blocks, but those are all pretty rare nowadays and suffer the same cost and aftermarket issues as the LA. Its also pretty obvious nobody would be swapping those into a jeep.

>>14903698
He means aftermarket as in performance parts, you dumb shit. And even then, your answer still isn't an aftermarket.

Europoors are cancer.

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>>14907556
>>14907575
>>14907979
>ignores the 2.4 Powertech too

I may drive a Grand Cherokee, but I can rest easy at night knowing I have a 4.7 v8 under the hood

>>14905592
>guys new engines are more efficient than 40 year old engines, that means v8s suck!

Notice how these faggots never talk about inline 4s from the 70s, since inline 4s making any power worth a shit is a recent thing.

>>14907979
>the modern HEMI is shit.
good meme

the 6,4l hemi apache heads flow better than any stock LS heads

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>>14904157
>inline 6
>havig any motorsport heritage whatsoever

lol

>>14905592
This just in, modern engines make more power than older engines

In other news, /o/ users are still autistic. More at 11.

More of a straight six guy but did you guys know Nissan uses V8 engines in their GT-R race cars because they're simply better for that kinf of environment? lol

>>14908170
they used the vk v8 on gt1, the gt3 has the vr v6

dummy